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July 12, 2022, 05:11:36 PM
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Here is the question to Ucy - if I buy an alcohol in Turkey, the seller gets good or evil money? Alcohol is forbidden for Muslims. And then I go a next shop and buy fake Nike t-shirt. Then these are money good or bad? Considering I've got USD from converting Bitcoin, and that Bitcoin was send to me via mixer Cheesy

The idea of getting more than deserved for an item or services is silly. If one party is ready to pay certain amount, and the other party agrees to accept that amount for an item or service, then I see no problem of morality here.

That's the thing, it all depends on your morality. I could give you another example that supports what you've said. You sell alcohol and you have some regulars. You know some of them are alcoholics, but you as a clerk cannot refuse to sell to them as long as they aren't visibly drunk. One one hand you fuel their addiction, on the other, you are aware that they're grownups and it's just a business. They made their choice. Is money paid by them any different from the money paid by someone who wants to celebrate a birthday with some friends?

IMO, there's no general rule for "evil money", it's all a matter of perspective.

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July 12, 2022, 05:19:08 PM
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A person who is doing a general labourers' job the whole day get paid around 10$ in a day, but people who are surgeons or doctors are earning almost 50,000$ per month in the Same country for few hours of work, the worth of work is actually defined by so many factors and at the same time, people might choose to work on their studies because of their situations or might have to choose other way of earning but then again, I do think that no matter what, if you are getting 700$ more for a job, take it, the world's already in an inflation and if you do have some extra bucks then be a good person and donate it, share it, it doesn't have to work in a bad way always.

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July 12, 2022, 06:40:45 PM
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That is a bit of like Karma, and I do not think that the real world has that kind of approach to it. Don't think that it would really make that kind of a big difference, it would of course be a morality thing, but look at all the big rich people.

You think Elon became rich because he had ethics? This dude literally shut down a whole place down because they wanted union. He can't fire people for being in the union, but he has all the right to shot down a whole factory, so he did that. This is the type of people who get rich. Jeff Bezos? He doesn't allow people to be in unions as well, but he also pays them so little that they get subsidized by the government for food stamps.

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July 13, 2022, 05:26:47 AM
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I guess most people have no idea that evil money (cursed money) and good money (blessed money) do actually exist. It's important to know how to avoid the cursed money if you want to be always satisfied with your earnings no matter how little they are.
I want to show you how you can always have enough and avoid the curse of wasting & misusing your earnings.
The truth is if you earn money you do not deserve, you will end up wasting it until you are left with what you deserve. For example, if you are paid a thousand dollars for a work that's actually worth $300,  $700 will be misused or wasted by you in different ways; you could buy $700 worth of electronics and it get stolen or spoiled easily....or the $700 will be lost utrightly. To avoid this problem, you need to make sure you do extra work for the one who is paying you and do it well so that it's actually worth the $1000 you were paid. Once this is done  your money and things you buy with it is automatically preserved, because you deserve it


Good money is money earned from doing good work... that is, from solving problems without creating more problems, while evil money is money earn from evil work, that is, works that create more problems rather solving them. Money earned from doing good work, no matter how little is always enough. If you are not paid enough for your good work, you are naturally compensated with things you need in such a way that makes things look like you were paid enough. For example, you do a good work that is worth $1000 but you got paid $300, the $300 will be enough to buy you things that's actually worth $1000 or more. And these things will last long for you.  People who do evil work end up with what they deserve. Workers reap what they sow: if they create more problems, they reap more problems making the big earnings they received not to be enough. If they solve problems without creating more problems they reap things without problems and they little they were paid becomes enough.

What I just revealed to you is a great Mystery of money/reward. It's worth alot but I give it to you for free. If you apply it in your life, you may never worry about money again but instead focus on solving problems without creating more problems.
This is how the CREATOR of this World designed things.

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Lmao, you got to be kidding me. Just because you got overpaid, you start calling them "evil money"? And it is your fault that you would be "wasting" those money. And not everyone would end up spending those extra money for something. I am sure most of them would save it for themselves. It's funnier when you said that the thing you spent on might get stolen because you bought it with evil money lol. You make it sound like anything you use those money for is cursed.

There is no such thing as good or evil money, but yeah legal and illegal money do exist.

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July 13, 2022, 06:59:33 AM
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I guess most people have no idea that evil money (cursed money) and good money (blessed money) do actually exist. It's important to know how to avoid the cursed money if you want to be always satisfied with your earnings no matter how little they are.
I want to show you how you can always have enough and avoid the curse of wasting & misusing your earnings.
The truth is if you earn money you do not deserve, you will end up wasting it until you are left with what you deserve.

I understand that it is more rewarding to earn money you actually worked for and you deserve it. If we have a job that helps society we should be more happy that we do good in the world. But how are you justifying that there are so many rich people out there who aren't working for their money? Why is it fair that some people are born into rich families and never have to work in their life, is that really "good money" they have? I think not, the world seems unfair to me. Or does winning in the lottery really count as "good money", money that you deserve? In the end we just got lucky that we had the right numbers. Why is it deserved for us and not our neighbour who has a sick child? It's a philosophical question that is hard to answer.
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July 13, 2022, 08:23:36 AM
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I guess most people have no idea that evil money (cursed money) and good money (blessed money) do actually exist. It's important to know how to avoid the cursed money if you want to be always satisfied with your earnings no matter how little they are.
I want to show you how you can always have enough and avoid the curse of wasting & misusing your earnings.
The truth is if you earn money you do not deserve, you will end up wasting it until you are left with what you deserve. For example, if you are paid a thousand dollars for a work that's actually worth $300,  $700 will be misused or wasted by you in different ways; you could buy $700 worth of electronics and it get stolen or spoiled easily....or the $700 will be lost utrightly. To avoid this problem, you need to make sure you do extra work for the one who is paying you and do it well so that it's actually worth the $1000 you were paid. Once this is done  your money and things you buy with it is automatically preserved, because you deserve it


Good money is money earned from doing good work... that is, from solving problems without creating more problems, while evil money is money earn from evil work, that is, works that create more problems rather solving them. Money earned from doing good work, no matter how little is always enough. If you are not paid enough for your good work, you are naturally compensated with things you need in such a way that makes things look like you were paid enough. For example, you do a good work that is worth $1000 but you got paid $300, the $300 will be enough to buy you things that's actually worth $1000 or more. And these things will last long for you.  People who do evil work end up with what they deserve. Workers reap what they sow: if they create more problems, they reap more problems making the big earnings they received not to be enough. If they solve problems without creating more problems they reap things without problems and they little they were paid becomes enough.

What I just revealed to you is a great Mystery of money/reward. It's worth alot but I give it to you for free. If you apply it in your life, you may never worry about money again but instead focus on solving problems without creating more problems.
This is how the CREATOR of this World designed things.


I wrote a book on this in detail, incase you are interested send me message.


Interesting topic! 

Is it possible to apply the categories of ethics and morality to such a field of activity as finance? 

On the one hand, initially finance is not based on moral imperatives.  Money is a means of exchanging some goods (works, services) for other goods (works, services).  In addition, banknotes perform the function of savings. 

On the other hand, people use money in their activities.  Outside of human society, the concept of money and finance has no meaning.  At the same time, people adhere to moral and ethical values.  If a person sincerely believes that he has received an undeserved profit, then he can subconsciously carry out actions aimed at bankruptcy and monetary losses. 

In this context, the concept of "bad" and "good" money can exist.

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July 13, 2022, 08:53:57 AM
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Here is the question to Ucy - if I buy an alcohol in Turkey, the seller gets good or evil money? Alcohol is forbidden for Muslims. And then I go a next shop and buy fake Nike t-shirt. Then these are money good or bad? Considering I've got USD from converting Bitcoin, and that Bitcoin was send to me via mixer Cheesy

The idea of getting more than deserved for an item or services is silly. If one party is ready to pay certain amount, and the other party agrees to accept that amount for an item or service, then I see no problem of morality here.

That's the thing, it all depends on your morality. I could give you another example that supports what you've said. You sell alcohol and you have some regulars. You know some of them are alcoholics, but you as a clerk cannot refuse to sell to them as long as they aren't visibly drunk. One one hand you fuel their addiction, on the other, you are aware that they're grownups and it's just a business. They made their choice. Is money paid by them any different from the money paid by someone who wants to celebrate a birthday with some friends?

IMO, there's no general rule for "evil money", it's all a matter of perspective.

It ends with "all money are evil". Because you dont know where money came from when you are paid, and you cant always plan where you spend it. It turns, that I am unintentionally converted cash in my wallet into bad money (already pumping it with bad karma), because I keep them to bribe a police officer if I would be caught for speeding Cheesy On the other hand, I fully understand the rule "if you brake the rule, you pay" and I ready to pay the fine for speeding. And on the other hand also, I have a powerful car and a motorcycle and barely break speeding regime Cheesy And on the other hand (3 hands, ha-ha, I am Goro) I am afraid to be caught for giving bribe and lose drivers license and going to jail. Such a paradox...

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July 13, 2022, 02:25:02 PM
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This is not how things work in the real world. You got cheated of $700, and paid only $300 you think the value is going to magically reflect in your $300? This reminds of bible story of Jesus feeding the multitude with five loaves of bread and two fishes.
Seriously.  I think I understand what OP is trying to say, but if indeed I do it sounds very much like magical thinking--and I guess you could consider religion to be one of the most popular examples of that (and no doubt the most acceptable one).

I don't believe in karma either.  Why?  Because really awful, nasty, evil human beings can become very successful in life and enjoy things others only dream of.  Whether any of that makes them truly happy or not is up for debate, but the fact remains that if bad deeds equated with some supernatural retribution, I'm not buying it.  Good people get screwed all the time.  So I don't agree with OP's assertion that there's any special moral characteristic that can be attributed to money.
While I also understand OP's point of view, it's just a religious superstition that evil is always punished, it's not. Money has been made in billions with nasty ways and the majority of people who did, didn't get "punished" for it.

I don't believe in god, nor superstitions or karma. I find the concept of karma pretty invalid. Like The Pharmacist suggested, evil people get successful or get what they desire and never get screwed over their actions. On the other hand, I find it sickening to believe that if someone misconducted in the past but something undesirable happened to them in the future, illness for instance, it's their karma hitting back. It's an awful way of thinking, we're responsible for our own actions and only, and it's them that are in our control.

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Doesn't matter if you agree or not, those who apply the lesson from the post in their lives will definitely be richer than the rest.
If it doesn't work for me I wouldn't be posting it.
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I completely agree with you  Cheesy See, human greed is something that is more than infinity I guess, and the moment one earns in an unethical way, then, automatically his greed will make him do it again and again and he will never be satisfied, but when we work hard to earn and applying strict principles on our lives, even if we earn less, we will be content because we know, we are getting what we have worked hard with full honesty and dedication Smiley
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This is how the CREATOR of this World designed things.


I wrote a book on this in detail, incase you are interested send me message.


Isn't this all about money management, I do believe with good and evil money but there are some pointers in your statement that I don't come in terms.

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. For example, you do a good work that is worth $1000 but you got paid $300, the $300 will be enough to buy you things that's actually worth $1000 or more. And these things will last long for you.

This sound superficial, If your family budget is worth $500  then no matter what you do, $300 won't fit for it.

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For example, if you are paid a thousand dollars for a work that's actually worth $300,  $700 will be misused or wasted by you in different ways; you could buy $700 worth of electronics and it get stolen or spoiled easily....or the $700 will be lost utrightly.

Here is another example, you work hard for it and get paid, I don't think that the person who work doesn't deserve that payment.  And if person knows money management, I don't think that the money will be wasted.

This is how the CREATOR of this World designed things.

You can share this directly though and let us see if we sync with what you believe in.  Though when it comes to finance, it is always greed that messed up everything.  besides Christianity always advice to learn money management.
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July 14, 2022, 11:28:14 PM
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I completely agree with you  Cheesy See, human greed is something that is more than infinity I guess, and the moment one earns in an unethical way, then, automatically his greed will make him do it again and again and he will never be satisfied, but when we work hard to earn and applying strict principles on our lives, even if we earn less, we will be content because we know, we are getting what we have worked hard with full honesty and dedication Smiley
Human greed is limitless and there are different type of principles on which a person could have whether they would be going on the ethical way or non-ethical as long they could able to earn.

We know that there are situations or conditions on which people would able to earn income neither on a legit way or not but most of the time people wont really be that minding
on where those sources came from as long it do make them a living and able to survive on day to day then that what surely counts.

There are  some who do stick into their principles that they dont mind on living on a hard situation as long they are earning on a legal manner or doesnt really affect others.

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July 15, 2022, 02:45:45 AM
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How I wish there is indeed such hidden and mysterious rule governing the earth!

Although this view is weird, this isn't totally unfamiliar to me because this is also prevalent in my country. But I don't agree with this view. This to me is nothing but a myth. There isn't a single scientific study which proves this beyond doubt.

My belief is simple: put your money into good use. That's all. Whether your money was given to you as a payment for a hard day's work or won from gambling or simply found on the streets or given to you as a donation by a drug lord or whatever, just make sure that it is put into good use. And that money, however dirty its origin is or however easily earned it was, will give you value.

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July 15, 2022, 03:29:52 PM
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May be or may be not. This entirely depends on oneself learning’s from the daily lifestyle. If im earning the money which is my X salary then all of it is my money because Im dedicating my skills towards companies growth and in general its revenue. Moreover, if im having additional income sources which definitely will have some inputs from me for which they will pay me is my money. Money is good, a spender could be evil based on where they spend it. Wink
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July 18, 2022, 11:07:56 AM
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I guess most people have no idea that evil money (cursed money) and good money (blessed money) do actually exist. It's important to know how to avoid the cursed money if you want to be always satisfied with your earnings no matter how little they are.
I want to show you how you can always have enough and avoid the curse of wasting & misusing your earnings.
The truth is if you earn money you do not deserve, you will end up wasting it until you are left with what you deserve. For example, if you are paid a thousand dollars for a work that's actually worth $300,  $700 will be misused or wasted by you in different ways; you could buy $700 worth of electronics and it get stolen or spoiled easily....or the $700 will be lost utrightly. To avoid this problem, you need to make sure you do extra work for the one who is paying you and do it well so that it's actually worth the $1000 you were paid. Once this is done  your money and things you buy with it is automatically preserved, because you deserve it


Good money is money earned from doing good work... that is, from solving problems without creating more problems, while evil money is money earn from evil work, that is, works that create more problems rather solving them. Money earned from doing good work, no matter how little is always enough. If you are not paid enough for your good work, you are naturally compensated with things you need in such a way that makes things look like you were paid enough. For example, you do a good work that is worth $1000 but you got paid $300, the $300 will be enough to buy you things that's actually worth $1000 or more. And these things will last long for you.  People who do evil work end up with what they deserve. Workers reap what they sow: if they create more problems, they reap more problems making the big earnings they received not to be enough. If they solve problems without creating more problems they reap things without problems and they little they were paid becomes enough.

What I just revealed to you is a great Mystery of money/reward. It's worth alot but I give it to you for free. If you apply it in your life, you may never worry about money again but instead focus on solving problems without creating more problems.
This is how the CREATOR of this World designed things.


I wrote a book on this in detail, incase you are interested send me message.


The whole of this thread I may say it is a suspense, you said you want to show us how to earn more and avoid curse money and how to avoid wasting of money earn from good work but your explanation is normal phenomenon that exists and everyone knows about them if I am not mistaking. Although People might not know this strategies.. Also you made mentioned of "evil money (curse money) and good money (blessed money)". I believe nobody earns money and tell you that he or she earned that Money from evil or curse way. From everyone perspective, everyone earned money from good way. An arm robber Rob a bank and still tell you that he good it from good (blessed) way. So to what extent do calculate bad money earning avenue from good money earning avenue..?
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July 18, 2022, 11:31:41 AM
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You speak from a religious point of view so I think that there are many members who will disagree with you in this way of thinking, there are many people who do not believe in the existence of God but adhere to good morals in society, in general most of the religious and non-religious people believe that if money is earned illegally Such as theft, drugs, human organs, etc. This money is called bad or “cursed money”, and money that is acquired legally through trade, employment or any other clean work is called “good money”.
 but if you do a job that deserves a wage of $300 and take an allowance About $1,000. Here the difference arises because some people think that their effort or experience is worth much more than $1,000, while you think that it is not worth more than $300. This is a difference of views, and no one can judge whether it is true or not.

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