[Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned?

[coin-investor]

I have no problem banning gambling in Islamic countries that don't want to take advantage of it. Nor am I insisting that it should be legalized just because of multiple interests, but it is more likely for me to accept any reason to ban or legalize it.

Indonesia prohibits gambling, but in fact some online casinos get away with it without a clear ban. Some online slots and applications are left without restrictions even though they are in Indonesian jurisdictions. It just depends on the corrupt government, it's really up to them.

You could really expect that there would be exemptions whenever we do talk about corruption or something and since we do live on an era where connections and accessibility is easy then getting rid of something

is really hard to be completely blocked 100% since we are already on an era where everything could really be easily accessed through online despite on banning it completely.
I dont really see for it to be needed to be banned as long the government would impose such strict rules and reminders about gambling addiction and related to it.
People wont be really ending up on a disaster if they do just simply play in moderation.

The government can't keep up there's always new technology available that will give access to online gambling casinos, even if you're living in a country where there is a high restriction on gambling there are always companies that will provide you tools to access, that is why VPN is very in demand because they know that some countries and some companies are restricting some parts of the region and they are here to provide access in exchange for subscription, because of the ban VPN companies are making a profit.
VPN are a multi million industry where gambling is in existence VPN are there, its their partner for accessibility.

[ethereumhunter]

In my opinion, the second "pro" explains everything: addiction, money loss system and so on. If you act like an adult and you are conscious of every threat gambling has, I do not see any reason to cancel gambling. Moreover, gambling is not only about money, it's about fun as well, and we have to remember it.

But unfortunately, not many people are aware of the threat or risk of gambling instead, they continue playing gambling and don't stop before they run out of money. Maybe this is the reason for the government to ban gambling because instead of playing gambling which is not necessarily able to give them a win, the money is better used for their living needs. It will be best if they can do it because we will prevent addiction, loss of money, etc., that can arise after playing gambling.

The problem with that train of thought is that then the governments will begin to put more and more restrictions to the things you can buy or do and our freedoms will be eroded this way.

If I remember correctly at China there is already a limit on how many hours a person can play online video games, think about it, you cannot even play as much time as you want at China, so what would be next,? A limit to how many hours you can watch TV or use the Internet? So while on the surface some people may think that banning gambling or at least allow the government to set a limit to how much you can gamble I think this is a mistake.

I can't imagine if there is a limit on the hours to be able to watch TV and use the internet because it could cause protests from the public. Maybe the use of TV can be controlled by the government. I don't think that the government can apply restrictions on internet connection because nowadays, internet connections are available everywhere. Perhaps the only way the government can enforce the ban is to contact the respective service providers and pressure them to comply with the government's wishes.

[Smartprofit]

In my opinion, the policy of prohibiting gambling is ineffective. 

People are stubborn and curious by nature.  This is a property of human nature.  There is a proverb - "The ban on eating apples encourages them to be eaten in large quantities, as they seem to be tastier." 

In addition, each new generation of people is better versed in computer technology than the previous generation.  Therefore, in fact, all prohibitions are meaningless.  There are many technological ways to get around any gambling bans (in the information space). 

These are VPN, and TOR, and DNS servers.  There are paid VPNs, there are free VPNs, you can organize your own VPN (on your own server). 

Especially if the player suffers from gambling addiction, then he will overcome all obstacles in order to get the opportunity to play again.

[BITCOIN4X]

You could really expect that there would be exemptions whenever we do talk about corruption or something and since we do live on an era where connections and accessibility is easy then getting rid of something

is really hard to be completely blocked 100% since we are already on an era where everything could really be easily accessed through online despite on banning it completely.
I dont really see for it to be needed to be banned as long the government would impose such strict rules and reminders about gambling addiction and related to it.
People wont be really ending up on a disaster if they do just simply play in moderation.

I know that the ban won't be 100% effective at preventing people online from accessing casinos to gamble, it's true.
I don't really care how people can access it even though it's banned, but it's clear that the government can't seem to control the proliferation of school-age children who can freely gamble on their Android. The lack of education and warnings would be ineffective even if gambling were outlawed or legal, but I wouldn't be too concerned about the regulations so far.

[Hispo]

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The well known Hydra Effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydra_effect)
Cut off one head and two will grow to take its place.
Some people will argue that this is the case when comes to the war against drugs, banning of sex workers and even alcohol.

After reading your post I tried to find some information on gambling in countries which follow the Sharia Law, like Saudi Arabia, after a brief internet investigation it seems that even in these countries where the penalties for violating the Islamic law can be tough, there are casinos. I had no idea about this, to be honest and if true it is another example of what you wrote it is true.

Hopefully I'll find someone from those lands to clarify this matter.

[Japinat]

I have no problem banning gambling in Islamic countries that don't want to take advantage of it. Nor am I insisting that it should be legalized just because of multiple interests, but it is more likely for me to accept any reason to ban or legalize it.

Indonesia prohibits gambling, but in fact some online casinos get away with it without a clear ban. Some online slots and applications are left without restrictions even though they are in Indonesian jurisdictions. It just depends on the corrupt government, it's really up to them.

There is a reason why the Islamic countries in the Middle East had chosen to ban gambling activities and that is because gambling is considered a sin in their religion and they believe that gambling is an act of evil or something like that. They surely don't want to take advantage of any revenues that come from the gambling industry because they will be criticized by other Islamic countries. Also, they had other things to offer where most of their economy relies and that is the black gold (oil).

[serjent05]

You could really expect that there would be exemptions whenever we do talk about corruption or something and since we do live on an era where connections and accessibility is easy then getting rid of something

is really hard to be completely blocked 100% since we are already on an era where everything could really be easily accessed through online despite on banning it completely.
I dont really see for it to be needed to be banned as long the government would impose such strict rules and reminders about gambling addiction and related to it.
People wont be really ending up on a disaster if they do just simply play in moderation.

I know that the ban won't be 100% effective at preventing people online from accessing casinos to gamble, it's true.
I don't really care how people can access it even though it's banned, but it's clear that the government can't seem to control the proliferation of school-age children who can freely gamble on their Android. The lack of education and warnings would be ineffective even if gambling were outlawed or legal, but I wouldn't be too concerned about the regulations so far.

That is why, instead of banning it, the government should welcome gambling. It will be beneficial to both parties because, the government can earn money through taxes.  With the gambling awareness program where the topics about responsible gambling and gambling addiction are fully discussed and explained, citizens will have a better understanding of gambling and gambling addiction.  With those knowledge, players might be able to control their addiction to promulgate.

[arimamib]

Have you ever seen a small child whose parents forbade him not to play in the mud, no matter how hard the parents forbid the child will not hear because playing in the mud is his hobby. Human nature will not disappear even though it has grown up, something that was forbidden would become his hobby. Gambling has become something that is difficult to separate from humans, from cities to remote areas we can still find people who gamble. Gambling is not the goal of one's life, but rather to entertain oneself to relieve boredom from being tired of working. A person's adrenaline will change when gambling, the excitement of gambling can refresh the brain, that's why so many great people and officials are always active in gambling because it can increase enthusiasm and passion back to normal.

[South Park]

Have you ever seen a small child whose parents forbade him not to play in the mud, no matter how hard the parents forbid the child will not hear because playing in the mud is his hobby. Human nature will not disappear even though it has grown up, something that was forbidden would become his hobby. Gambling has become something that is difficult to separate from humans, from cities to remote areas we can still find people who gamble. Gambling is not the goal of one's life, but rather to entertain oneself to relieve boredom from being tired of working. A person's adrenaline will change when gambling, the excitement of gambling can refresh the brain, that's why so many great people and officials are always active in gambling because it can increase enthusiasm and passion back to normal.

And not only that people have a desire for that which is forbidden, so if the government banned gambling people which never thought about the activity may begin to gamble just to experiment that feeling of doing something they should not be doing, so if anything by doing something like that governments will make gambling even more popular than what it is right now, so the more I think about this the more I think this is simply a very bad idea.

[TopTort777]

Are people able to ban gambling completely? All the online and IRL places, including illegal? To tell where is the fine line between punch of people playing among each other for fun and a bunch of people playing same game to earn ? Why not instead of banning (the real reason to do is people addiction), create placer where people could recover from addiction. Or why not ban peanuts, because some people are allergic to it?

[ChiBitCTy]

Are people able to ban gambling completely? All the online and IRL places, including illegal? To tell where is the fine line between punch of people playing among each other for fun and a bunch of people playing same game to earn ? Why not instead of banning (the real reason to do is people addiction), create placer where people could recover from addiction. Or why not ban peanuts, because some people are allergic to it?

The answer is no. Just like when the United States banned the sale or alcohol during prohibition, it was a complete failure, and only made things worse. The same thing goes for the sale of marijuana, and thankfully the United States had mostly legalized both. Having legalized gambling has been a huge benefit to both people and the government/ tax dollars.

[nakamura12]

Some countries didn't ban gambling but rather making it illegal and whoever caught gambling will be put to prison. We all know what is gambling and why we can say that it is rigged is because our winning chance is very low since the result is not fixed or completely random generated. So, house would always win if you ask me but even if there's still a chance to win it won't be easy as counting 1 to 3. If you were successful to ban gambling yet there would always be a group of person who stil gamble even if it's illegal. We all experienced losing money and it is much better if we don't let it affect ourselves. It's business after all.

[coolcoinz]

Some countries didn't ban gambling but rather making it illegal and whoever caught gambling will be put to prison.

When something is made illegal it is in fact banned. You didn't know that?
When you put out a law that anyone caught smoking weed will be prosecuted and jailed, this means weed is banned in that country.

IMO nothing should be banned. I'm against banning drugs, alcohol, prostitution, gambling... It should all be available for those who want. The law should punish only forcing people to be involved in these activities. Making false promises, stealing from people, rigging games should be punished, but if someone chooses to participate in it out of free will it's not up to the government to stop them.

[nakamura12]

When something is made illegal it is in fact banned. You didn't know that?
When you put out a law that anyone caught smoking weed will be prosecuted and jailed, this means weed is banned in that country.

IMO nothing should be banned. I'm against banning drugs, alcohol, prostitution, gambling... It should all be available for those who want. The law should punish only forcing people to be involved in these activities. Making false promises, stealing from people, rigging games should be punished, but if someone chooses to participate in it out of free will it's not up to the government to stop them.

If you didn't quote my reply and explain it then I wouldn't have notice that I did explained it wrong. I have headache right now and maybe that's the reason why I said it. Of course I know that when it is illegal meaning it is banned or prohibited to use. I can't do anything to stop a country from banning gambling or not then I have no choice but to follow. I'm sure many gambling businesses owners doesn't want gambling being banned.

[molsewid]

Some countries didn't ban gambling but rather making it illegal and whoever caught gambling will be put to prison. We all know what is gambling and why we can say that it is rigged is because our winning chance is very low since the result is not fixed or completely random generated. So, house would always win if you ask me but even if there's still a chance to win it won't be easy as counting 1 to 3. If you were successful to ban gambling yet there would always be a group of person who stil gamble even if it's illegal. We all experienced losing money and it is much better if we don't let it affect ourselves. It's business after all.

In our case, here in our country makes an agency for gambling, all those business shall registered their gambling business and pay the taxes for it, taxes in gambling is kinda high but it helps different people and different projects in the government. But most people in this country still play those games that is illegal, it is more cheaper than in casino, they can't afford that legal so they will find cheaper ones. Gambling should not be banned, it should be regulated well, there's a lot of ways to gamble and as long as government try to stop that the more the people will resist.

[serjent05]

Have you ever seen a small child whose parents forbade him not to play in the mud, no matter how hard the parents forbid the child will not hear because playing in the mud is his hobby. Human nature will not disappear even though it has grown up, something that was forbidden would become his hobby.

Yes, and I see that the kids listen to their parents because if they don't punishment awaits them.  Depending on how parents raise their kids, the effective use of "rewards and stick" greatly affects the kids' core.  As long as the kids acknowledge that their parents have authority over them, they will listen or the kids respect their parents they will listen.  Though I agree that human nature will not disappear but it can be molded.  

Gambling has become something that is difficult to separate from humans, from cities to remote areas we can still find people who gamble. Gambling is not the goal of one's life, but rather to entertain oneself to relieve boredom from being tired of working. A person's adrenaline will change when gambling, the excitement of gambling can refresh the brain, that's why so many great people and officials are always active in gambling because it can increase enthusiasm and passion back to normal.

I agree, that is why the government shouldn't ban gambling but instead regulate it.  To take advantage of the tax gambling can bring and at the same time not force its citizen to do illegal stuff.

[nullama]

Have you ever seen a small child whose parents forbade him not to play in the mud, no matter how hard the parents forbid the child will not hear because playing in the mud is his hobby. Human nature will not disappear even though it has grown up, something that was forbidden would become his hobby.

Yes, and I see that the kids listen to their parents because if they don't punishment awaits them.  Depending on how parents raise their kids, the effective use of "rewards and stick" greatly affects the kids' core.  As long as the kids acknowledge that their parents have authority over them, they will listen or the kids respect their parents they will listen.  Though I agree that human nature will not disappear but it can be molded.  

Gambling has become something that is difficult to separate from humans, from cities to remote areas we can still find people who gamble. Gambling is not the goal of one's life, but rather to entertain oneself to relieve boredom from being tired of working. A person's adrenaline will change when gambling, the excitement of gambling can refresh the brain, that's why so many great people and officials are always active in gambling because it can increase enthusiasm and passion back to normal.

I agree, that is why the government shouldn't ban gambling but instead regulate it.  To take advantage of the tax gambling can bring and at the same time not force its citizen to do illegal stuff.

Yeah, society should create incentives to have a healthy relationship with gambling, not simply ban it as that never works.

The same with alcohol. Banning it doesn't work, treating it as a health issue is the best way to deal with it.

In the case of gambling, it should be treated more like a psychological issue, because in the end it's an addiction like any other.

[jrrsparkles]

Gambling has been a part of human kind for centuries even I came across some threads in this board where we see proof for the existence of gambling even before few thousands of years even before the Jesus was born so I don't think it will be banned completely. Yes it has been banned in some countries for religious reasons and some countries have restricted particular games only not the entire gambling.

It has its own pros and cons as you said but its our own choice whether we want to enjoy it or get ruined by it.

[vennali]

It is an entertainment with some dire consequences when not done in moderation. I personally don't think it should be banned but it should be regulated and surveillance better. Too many underage(especially in gaming and crypto) are getting involved into gambling. Be it lootboxes or just gambling game skins on to eSports. If we could curb that level of entry, somehow. I think at least half of gambling addictions can be curtailed.

[gunhell16]

That's right! Children shouldn't be exposed to this kind of environment either because there is a big chance that they'll pick the wrong choices while they are growing up and think that alcohol and gambling are okay. The risk is quite big enough to take that chance, it's fine to teach them while they are young about the things they should do and should not while not exposing them to the said environment until they are older enough to weigh things.

That is right children shouldn't be exposed to gambling but gambling is everywhere so it is almost impossible to keep children from being exposed to gambling. if being exposed to gambling is unavoidable for children, parents should guide them. Children should be educated on how to approach gambling.  I think that is way better than not exposing them to the gambling industry.  Awareness is the best tool against the harmful effect of gambling.

We all know here that gambling is not good in the eyes of children and they should not learn it because it is not good for any children to become a habit and should not really be included in gambling. That's why sometimes you will also wonder why there are other governments that allow gambling to be legal in their countries and not really in others. But as you said, no matter where we go, gambling will always be there, in short, it will never go away or be controlled because there are also many poor people, most of whom rely on gambling because they might get the money. jackpot and they will suddenly become rich. They say it's easy to get money if you're lucky.