Ukraine President suspects Treason

[Ripe_berry]

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

[VKcams.com]

He had such a narcotic dream, what do you have against it?

[suzanne5223]

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?

Yes, his accusation about the prosecutor and security service department leader is true because they are not doing their job. From my own understanding, their job is to investigate and prosecute people who are responsible for crimes against humanity, genocide, and war but they appear to be doing in the situation of Ukraine and Russia.

Did the president make the right decision?
 

Of course, he did make the right decision and his questioning and suspension could bring an effective result.

[BADecker]

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

Of course he made the right decision. In fact, if he had the power and scope that he is attempting to  gain for himself, he would have executed them... just like Stalin who executed hundreds of thousands of his own, loyal supporters, simply because he was paranoid.

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After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

[Zlantann]

Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?

The process or procedures for the removal top members of Procecutor and Security Service department is enshrined in legal documents. The government must follow these lay down laws to avoid the illegality of their actions. Maybe the government have done proper probe or investigation of the matter at hand and it was discovered that the allegations are valid. If the accusations are true and the punishment is removal from office, then the President did the right thing. Don't forget that Volodymyrs Zelensky is the President and Commander-in-Chief who has sworn to uphold the constitution of Ukraine.

[paxmao]

He had such a narcotic dream, what do you have against it?

Narcotic dream my ass. Of course there are traitors in Ukraine (like everywhere else I guess). Kherson was pretty much handed over by a few traitors and it could happen again because there are always people that may take advantage of situations like this.

But if you want to speak of narcotics...

As the world leaders sat down for their first meeting of the three-day summit on Sunday, Johnson asked: "Jackets on? Jackets off? Shall we take our clothes off?"

"We all have to show that we're tougher than Putin," Johnson joked, suggesting the G7 leaders should "show them our pecs."

"Let's wait for the picture," Trudeau responded, adding: "We're going to get the bare-chested horseback riding display."

"Oh yes. Horseback riding at its best," von der Leyen chimed in.

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?

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After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?

Head of the Armament and Logistics Service of the Ukrainian Air Force, Colonel Oleg Makarchuk, Colonel of the Ukrainian Air Force Dmitry Burdiko and high-ranking officer of the Air Force Konstantin Puzyrenko. Given that Ukraine has long had big problems with regular officers, one can understand the sharp reaction of Zelensky, who fired a childhood friend from his position.

[paxmao]

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?

Head of the Armament and Logistics Service of the Ukrainian Air Force, Colonel Oleg Makarchuk, Colonel of the Ukrainian Air Force Dmitry Burdiko and high-ranking officer of the Air Force Konstantin Puzyrenko. Given that Ukraine has long had big problems with regular officers, one can understand the sharp reaction of Zelensky, who fired a childhood friend from his position.

So, if they are shown to be alive, that would be a wrong assessment? There does not seem to be any corroboration of any fact stated other that some obscure "sources", seems just like another rumour.

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After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?

Head of the Armament and Logistics Service of the Ukrainian Air Force, Colonel Oleg Makarchuk, Colonel of the Ukrainian Air Force Dmitry Burdiko and high-ranking officer of the Air Force Konstantin Puzyrenko. Given that Ukraine has long had big problems with regular officers, one can understand the sharp reaction of Zelensky, who fired a childhood friend from his position.

So, if they are shown to be alive, that would be a wrong assessment? There does not seem to be any corroboration of any fact stated other that some obscure "sources", seems just like another rumour.

Yep, of course.

[LTU_btc]

Zelensky didn't accused them collaborating with Russia. Problem is that there is huge number of people who collaborate with Russia in SBU and Prosecutor's Office. It's one of resone why Russia took Kherson so easy without much resistense. And heads of SBU and Prosecutor's Office is responsible for it.
BTW, Ivan Bakanov is old childhood friend of Zelensky, they also worked together in Kvartal 95 Studio.

[af_newbie]

Zelensky didn't accused them collaborating with Russia. Problem is that there is huge number of people who collaborate with Russia in SBU and Prosecutor's Office. It's one of resone why Russia took Kherson so easy without much resistense. And heads of SBU and Prosecutor's Office is responsible for it.
BTW, Ivan Bakanov is old childhood friend of Zelensky, they also worked together in Kvartal 95 Studio.

I think it is safe to say that the special operation to eliminate any anti-Ukrainian elements in Ukraine has started.

Ukraine should have done this in 1991 as the Baltic countries did.

After this Putin's clusterfuck is finished, all pro-Russia terrorists will be eliminated or will leave Ukraine.

I think the Russian zombified population will support him until about 500 thousand Russian men will die (in a few years).
Maybe sooner. Public opinion can change very quickly once the general mobilization is declared.

I think in the end, Ukraine will be cleansed from any pro-Soviet/RF elements which will be good for the future of the country.

[DrBeer]

After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

Of course, I'm not very pleased to talk about it - but the truth is most important.
I will surprise you - but since the time of President Kravchuk, here in Ukraine, Russia has systematically tried to "integrate" its "hands and ears" into increasingly less significant structures. Including the SBU, the GUR, the presidential administration, and many others.
But since the populist Zelensky came to power, control and the search for "canned food" (as the "integrated" representatives of the Russian Federation in power and other state structures are called for a long time) has been reduced to zero. Moreover, due to his populism and idiocy in the formation of the team, the Kremlin "canned food" received almost unlimited access to law enforcement agencies, government agencies, including the president's inner circle. Before that, many pro-Ukrainian heads of law enforcement agencies were fired under various pretexts, because they were real experts and set one of the goals of identifying such "canned food" and destroying them. BUT! We have what we have ... In order not to be unfounded: In Ukraine in 2021, having information about the plans for the next stage of Russia's attack on Ukraine, the area where, from the temporarily occupied Crimea, the border areas with Crimea were mined in order to prevent large connections from quickly and without loss to penetrate the territory of Ukraine. But, it was the presidential administration, and it was precisely those people who are already openly spoken of as Russian agents, who initiated and quickly pushed through the project to ... DEMINING this particular area! And this was done literally a month or two before the start of a new invasion. That is why large areas in southern Ukraine were so quickly occupied by Russian terrorists. Corruption, betrayal are the most terrible crimes against the state and the people of the country.

[PrimeNumber7]

Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?

I don't know about the specific people that Zelensky is accusing to have betrayed their country, but I think it is reasonable to say that Putin has spies in Ukraine and that some of those spies are government officials in the Ukraine government. I would not be surprised if Ukraine similarly has spies in Russia.

It is Zelensky's job to try to find the spies and to prevent them from further betraying their country.

[LTU_btc]

@DrBeer, damn, that's serious stuff and it explains quite a lot things and why Russia didn't had much problems in Southern Ukraine. I think you don't have to be military expert to expect that Russia will attack from Crimea. It was much more difficult to expect that they will attack from Belarus.

I think it is safe to say that the special operation to eliminate any anti-Ukrainian elements in Ukraine has started.

Ukraine should have done this in 1991 as the Baltic countries did.

Actually, Baltic states haven't done enough to clean up from pro-Russian elements. Former communists were allowed and still allowed to be ellected and work in public sector. So, from communist they have turned into patriots. Most of them don't have pro-Russian views or at least don't show it, but in general they are harmful for country.

I would not be surprised if Ukraine similarly has spies in Russia.

Offcourse they have.

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After waiting for a long time for concrete and sufficient radical results from the leaders of Procecutor and Security Service department, President Volodymyrs Zelensky questions their leadership and has suspended the  Procecutor General and Head of Security Service of the country accusing them of collaborating with Russia.
Can President Zelensky's accusations be true?
Did the president make the right decision?
 

I think the reason for the resignation of the Prosecutor General and the Head of the SBU was a productive missile strike in Vinnitsa on the house of officers, where a meeting of high-ranking military officers was held (at least three colonels of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were killed).

Another "precision posting" by the usual trolls. Which colonels were killed.. in "your thinking"?

Head of the Armament and Logistics Service of the Ukrainian Air Force, Colonel Oleg Makarchuk, Colonel of the Ukrainian Air Force Dmitry Burdiko and high-ranking officer of the Air Force Konstantin Puzyrenko. Given that Ukraine has long had big problems with regular officers, one can understand the sharp reaction of Zelensky, who fired a childhood friend from his position.

So, if they are shown to be alive, that would be a wrong assessment? There does not seem to be any corroboration of any fact stated other that some obscure "sources", seems just like another rumour.

Well, it looks like the rumors were confirmed and turned out to be true.

Today, the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky published another award decree, where among the 92 posthumously awarded are the dead colonels of the Ukrainian Air Force named Burdiko, Puzyrenko and Makarchuk, as well as a new colonel appears - Zagrevsky Sergey Alekseevich.

The decree does not say where the deceased served, but users of the LostArmour resource found a document), according to which Zagrevsky Sergey Alekseevich underwent lustration in 2015 when he served in the military unit A0535 - the command post of the VVSU, Vinnytsia.

[TheNineClub]

Can it be true? Maybe. But is it worth taking a risk at a time like this? Best case he was right, worst case he made a slight misscalculation, but in times of war politics tend ro work slightly diferently then in peacetime and it's never that clear cut on what are the right choices.

[BADecker]

Ukraine President suspects Treason


Ukraine President IS Treason.

[LTU_btc]

Former General Prosecutor - Iryna Venediktova, who was sacked by Zelensky few weeks ago now got appointed as Ukraine ambassador in Switzerland:
https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-polytics/3542583-kuleba-signs-motion-to-appoint-venediktova-as-ukraines-ambassador-to-switzerland.html
If she would be suspected about treason, I doubt that she would get this appointment.