Dead member account suddenly active?

[andulolika]

If I die and I want a family member to use the account next AND we make public the change of hands, i don't see why there should be any red tag, there's a long history of cuntism in this forum where logic and common sense aren't used lack, this is one of the cases in my opinion.

Alright, you who has some “logic”, Tell us how you can publically make a change of hands;

3. The person taking over the account will be as trustworthy as the previous owner, especially if the previous owner had good reputation?

This is where you find a flaw in the trust system, which ofcourse should be countered and set to 0.

Not sure if you noticed but there's a box in your profile where you can set your addy from which you sign.


Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.

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[Rikafip]

I'm not sure why would my familiar have to go thru all the shit of becoming legendary, when the change of hands was legit. Cannot but love this forums logic where as long as you don't say you got the account you fine, but as long as you honest you at the very least red tagged.

Why would your family members need Legendary account in the first place? Again we are coming back to the reasons I mentioned and that is to either scam someone or to leech off the forum via signature campaigns. Its funny to see that some people see bitcointalk account like some sort of family heirloom lol.

Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.

Legit newbies don't have issues on the forum just because of their rank. And yeah, reputation is something that has to be earned.

[logfiles]

This is where you find a flaw in the trust system, which ofcourse should be countered and set to 0.

That still doesn't help if the account was hacked or sold and the person is lying that they handed over the account to one of their relatives.

Not sure if you noticed but there's a box in your profile where you can set your addy from which you sign.

How many people stake their addresses anyway?

If I am selling my account to a stranger over the internet, what would stop me from giving the person I sold my account private keys to the addy I signed and then later make claims that I handed the account to one of my relatives?

Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.

I was a newbie about 4 years back, how come the "bullshit" didn't silence me?

[16xypjnxlrew]

This is where you find a flaw in the trust system, which ofcourse should be countered and set to 0.

Not sure if you noticed but there's a box in your profile where you can set your addy from which you sign.


Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.

After reading today what they did to thousands of other newbies here on the forum, calling them dumb/scammers, deleting their messages, throwing red and yellow flags, banning and deleting accounts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406606.msg60613625#msg60613625
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406606.msg60584638#msg60584638
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406591.msg60581479#msg60581479
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406591.msg60584776#msg60584776
- I understood here an absolute dictatorship that puts pressure on any expression of will and other thought. Even you couldn't resist them with more than a thousand merit. This is very sad to watch. This group of people called me scammers and do you know why? Because I created my own topic in the exchange thread, describing my exchange conditions to everyone and never scammed anyone. I pressed the "Oppose" button, I hope others will wake up and see what injustice is happening here every day, when some users use their authority to do all this

[Fivestar4everMVP]

There is something that am thinking and that has to do with accounts whose owners have been confirmed and announced dead in this forum. My question is this, what if that account becomes active again and begins posting? Is it going to terrify anyone thinking we have spirits lurking here or will that lead us to think a hacker or scammer is at work? But that can be any member of the dead forum user's family who eventually found the password to that account and decides to continue with it so they can earn and support themselves financially from it, maybe because the account is already high ranked. What will likely be the reaction of members of the forum to that?

If this happens, its simple, someone else, probably a family member was able to have access to the account and decided to continue from where the other late family member stopped, or maybe a hacker was able to break his or her way into the account and decided to start using it.

who ever it is that gained access to a dead member account doesn't really matter, what is important to note is that that account has changed hands and we don't know who the new owner is neither do we know the persons motive, so such an account deserves a tag, to warn members and even non member that would want to do any kind of business with such account not to trust it, at least until the new user is able to prove his or her legitimacy to the community.

[Maestro75]

Interesting subject. I have an example for you, not one that was posting, but that was connecting after his death. He died in 2014, yet he was still connecting until 2017. It's this account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2436
The famous guy who received the first bitcoin transaction.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5406723.msg60589121#msg60589121

The Hal Finney case was mentioned in post #7.

I checked his profile and his last post there was on August 9, 2013, months before his death in 2014. I guess his death was not by sudden because he stopped posting months earlier. Possibly he was bedridden. Does anyone know what happened after his death that the account became active but did not make any posts? Situations like that should raise some questions.

[BITCOIN4X]

I checked his profile and his last post there was on August 9, 2013, months before his death in 2014. I guess his death was not by sudden because he stopped posting months earlier. Possibly he was bedridden. Does anyone know what happened after his death that the account became active but did not make any posts? Situations like that should raise some questions.

Nobody seems to know exactly what the problem is, but it's always possible to think that someone has managed to find their account to log in (family, relatives or hackers or maybe admin?). That's my guess, it doesn't have to be right.

I don't think some of the questions about it are wrong as some people might need to know why. However, for users who have been confirmed dead, the admin may be able to ban the account, but for other reasons I doubt whether the family has the right to control the account because the account has changed hands.

[andulolika]

Crypto people tends to disappear in mysterious manners. I think diseases are rather premade nowadays, so whatever you died of, probably not out of randomness.

[Slow death]

However, I imagine most users would rather keep their online presence as their own upon passing.

If I die and if my girl wants to reactive this account then my ghost will be happy to know it. But you need to understand, my girl will not have same interest as me. The users are brother to me they will become uncle to her. Unless she makes it public they will be confused.

I wonder how would you guys take it once she will confirm her ownership of the account which she will inherit from me? Are you going to address her, niece bitcoingirl.club?

 

all this time i thought you were a girl


Op as I'm African if I knew that person Z died and months later his account is active I would think it was a ghost! it reminded me that in the past there was a forum member who was announced that he died, that day I was sad because I liked him a lot even though I didn't know him personally I just interacted with him here on the forum. A person's account always goes along when the person dies. I consider the forum account with someone's soul, all the history of years is there in the account, so I support that if someone dies the account should be marked with negative feedback

[Adbitco]

It's natural for an account not to be active for 1 year 2 year or even more than that but there is something to suspect, a bounty hunters account can be found not being for that long reason because he is failed up with bounty's due to join fake or dead projects at this point they might think the forum is not favorable to keep them earning which might leads to go source for physical works that he can be paid hourly or daily if not of monthly. At this point if the user login back to the forum there would be a note on his profile.
Other might be for a reason that such user email has been hacked I think it's only through mail account could be restored back here this might be that a friend might steal their email password to again access to their btt account. Then lastly, if account changes posting methods or often creating post rather than before or constantly posting in another local board unlike the previously does at this stage we should be able to detect account has been sold out or change hands.

[GxSTxV]

Well if it’s confirmed that the account has changed hands surly nobody will trust that account anymore, and at the same time as long as the new owner isn’t doing any suspicious activities or trying to scam using the high rank and trust that account earned then i will say everything is fine and doesn’t need to be red flagged.
Xd for those who believes in spirit that the dead person will come back for his account and start posting again that’s silly. If that person could get in touch with the real world again he would have plenty other things to do.

[KingsDen]

I think, Lovesmayfamilis is right. Even if an account is genuinely transferred to another person, be it a relative or a close friend, it is same as being hacked. Every account is peculiar to a particular person, the online personality has a reputation transferred to the account, so it will never be right for anyone to enjoy a good reputation they didn't build, or inherit a bad reputation they are unaware of.

Impersonation is a crime, it is in same reason that academic certificates are not transferable.
If anyone kicks the bucket, the best thing for anyone who knows the person to do is to inform the forum and the deceased giving the last honour and the account respected.

[JollyGood]

What if the account is being used by more than person in the first place and then one of the operators dies?

And what happens if someone is (let us say) dead and their account has been tagged but they have opted to have their brain cryogenically stored and they return back to the forum decades later?

My question is this, what if that account becomes active again and begins posting? Is it going to terrify anyone thinking we have spirits lurking here or will that lead us to think a hacker or scammer is at work?

[Asiska02]

This is simply possible. If and only if another member of the deceased person's family, close friends, or anybody else who previously had access to the account knew the password to the account, it is possible for a dead account to resurrect and begin posting on the forum. If a user's account has been marked as dead, I propose that no user should be able to access it again; instead, it should only be possible to visit the account to read the user's previous postings and, if there are any, his forum contributions for instructional purposes. Also, a tag indicating that the user is no longer present should be added to the account.

And this notion may possibly lead to other things. People marking other people as deceased because they had problems with them in the past or because they gave them lack of trust (bad reputation). They could wish to use this as retaliation. Aside from this, the forum moderators might be able to handle incidents of death in a more effective manner.

N.B: This is just a suggestion, please don’t misquote me

[Maestro75]

And this notion may possibly lead to other things. People marking other people as deceased because they had problems with them in the past or because they gave them lack of trust (bad reputation). They could wish to use this as retaliation. Aside from this, the forum moderators might be able to handle incidents of death in a more effective manner.

N.B: This is just a suggestion, please don’t misquote me

Sorry I have to quote you on that. But that will be a serious offence if anyone does that to falsely announce the death of any member, no matter the excuse or reason. Am not sure that has happened here once. Death is not something to toy with.

[Asiska02]

Sorry I have to quote you on that. But that will be a serious offence if anyone does that to falsely announce the death of any member, no matter the excuse or reason. Am not sure that has happened here once. Death is not something to toy with.

Indeed, we should not play about with death, and I don't believe that has happened in this case. But in reality, people will do anything to avenge someone who denied them of their desires, even if it means losing something. There is usually one negative thought among many in the human mind; it isn't all good.

[Crypt0S0ul]

If the account creates a thread on meta or Reputation and explains who he is and why he is using this account, I don't see any problem here. If I die and my wife wants to use this account because maybe she can earn some money from a signature campaign, She should be allowed to do that. But, Appropriately. My writing style and my family members' writing style is not the same.

[acroman08]

If the account creates a thread on meta or Reputation and explains who he is and why he is using this account, I don't see any problem here. If I die and my wife wants to use this account because maybe she can earn some money from a signature campaign, She should be allowed to do that. But, Appropriately. My writing style and my family members' writing style is not the same.

she's allowed to use your account and no one is stopping her but I am pretty sure even if your wife explained who she is, there are people who would still have a problem with it especially if she can't prove that she is actually the wife of the original owner of the account.

[Welsh]

What if the account is being used by more than person in the first place and then one of the operators dies?

And what happens if someone is (let us say) dead and their account has been tagged but they have opted to have their brain cryogenically stored and they return back to the forum decades later?

Which is happening, especially with branded accounts which are representing a company, basically employees are using it, rather than a central figure. However, I guess that could be argued to be different, since its representing the brand, and not the person behind the account.

Really though, I don't think too many users here are sharing their account with someone else, seems like you wouldn't gain much, other than potential privacy by reducing stylometry. Other than that, I would think the cons outweigh the pros.

[GeorgeJohn]

There is something that am thinking and that has to do with accounts whose owners have been confirmed and announced dead in this forum. My question is this, what if that account becomes active again and begins posting? Is it going to terrify anyone thinking we have spirits lurking here or will that lead us to think a hacker or scammer is at work? But that can be any member of the dead forum user's family who eventually found the password to that account and decides to continue with it so they can earn and support themselves financially from it, maybe because the account is already high ranked. What will likely be the reaction of members of the forum to that?

The case of dead account. If a person who is managing an account is dead and is officially known by the forum members and within some years or months the account resurrect. You have no option to report and people who is into the system knows what obtainable and the penalty of the account. And i want you to know that if forum notice that member or user of account is dead what they do immediately is to flag the account so that someone will not impersonates with the account. I think it's very obvious to the forum.