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July 20, 2022, 05:16:35 PM
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Hello,
There has been a very active discussion about the involvement of user Royse777 in the Bitlucy scam here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403679.0

but the discussion has been locked by Royse777.

Unfortunately (but as expected, since scam is the bottom line of livelihood of many "trusted" members here), the scam promoter Royse777 only got 2 red tags among a ton of feedback on this matter.

Here I am reopening the subject for those interested, to see at the end how many red tags Royse777 is going to get. We do not want a locked thread to be an excuse for not giving a red tag, in case some members need to exchange more on this subject, here you have an open thread that is never going to be locked.

It's on you! May all of you who read this make the right decision!

And wish you all the best.
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July 20, 2022, 05:41:18 PM
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You may start a new campaign and offer rewards again. We can request Royse777 to escrow the reward. 🤣

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July 20, 2022, 05:51:28 PM
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Why would he get any red tags? I don't understand.

As I understood from his explanation, He was partnering with bitlucy which failed to make payments but in the end he also didn't get his payments in time and he wasn't in charge for making payments.

Royse777 I know is an honest person. People can change in time or make mistakes but I don't see a big deal here.

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July 20, 2022, 06:10:20 PM
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How many red tags is  Royse777 going to get?

is there a competition? Who cares

Monsieur, svp,
It's for those who care about the trust system on the forum. Does it actually red tag the scammers or hide their history? This would actually fool even more victims if you don't red tag scammers, and encourage scam behaviour for other members since they know they'll get away with it like Royse777 did.
People reading this should also in most part distrust anything promoted on this forum (of course some will still fall for the trap)

Why would he get any red tags? I don't understand.
[...]He was partnering with bitlucy which failed to make payments but in the end he also didn't get his payments in time and he wasn't in charge for making payments.

I understand, they just failed in payments, and he was only a partner and a promoter for people not to get paid, not a big deal, just usual business.
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July 20, 2022, 06:11:14 PM
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You may start a new campaign and offer rewards again. We can request Royse777 to escrow the reward. 🤣
Lol Cheesy
OP is pissed he didn't get the supported he hoped for in his many posts about FortuneJack.

To answer OP's question: I think the DT-members who wanted to tag Royse777 have done it by now.

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July 20, 2022, 06:18:51 PM
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To answer OP's question: I think the DT-members who wanted to tag Royse777 have done it by now.

I think you're correct. Let's just not leave any doubt, here's an open discussion for anyone who is interested.
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July 20, 2022, 06:41:23 PM
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here's an open discussion for anyone who is interested.

Actually you're just opening new playground to frustrated trolls like yourself. This is how I see this.
I felt sorry for you when you made that famous topic about supporting/opposing that flag. Now I'm no longer sorry and I am pretty much deciding between tagging you for trolling or just ignore you.

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July 20, 2022, 07:10:31 PM
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here's an open discussion for anyone who is interested.

Actually you're just opening new playground to frustrated trolls like yourself. This is how I see this.
I felt sorry for you when you made that famous topic about supporting/opposing that flag. Now I'm no longer sorry and I am pretty much deciding between tagging you for trolling or just ignore you.
If this is addressed to me, I'd rather say decide quietly and do what you want but don't post out of topic messages.
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July 20, 2022, 07:33:32 PM
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I understand, they just failed in payments, and he was only a partner and a promoter for people not to get paid, not a big deal, just usual business.

There was another campaign manager who didn't make it in time for weeks, months. I forgot his nickname. lightsomething? In the end he got a few red-tags.

You have a fair point though. This is how businesses might go in the end. Sometimes it just don't work the way you imagine it would. There shouldn't be any excuses...

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July 20, 2022, 07:50:33 PM
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All the DT members don't involve with all the threads on the forum. Whether is a scam accusation or whatever. So how many red tags will get depends on how many DT members want to do so. Even I haven't read the story nor interested. Those already tag they read and think Royse777 deserves it. Also, some DT members leave positive feedback which is soft counter feedback. So it really depends on DTs mind.

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July 20, 2022, 08:25:47 PM
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You may start a new campaign and offer rewards again. We can request Royse777 to escrow the reward. 🤣

but this time to remember well who has already given their opinion on the whole case, and not to troll and unfounded accuse others.

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July 20, 2022, 08:26:55 PM
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Hello,
There has been a very active discussion about the involvement of user Royse777 in the Bitlucy scam here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403679.0

but the discussion has been locked by Royse777.

Unfortunately (but as expected, since scam is the bottom line of livelihood of many "trusted" members here), the scam promoter Royse777 only got 2 red tags among a ton of feedback on this matter.

Here I am reopening the subject for those interested, to see at the end how many red tags Royse777 is going to get. We do not want a locked thread to be an excuse for not giving a red tag, in case some members need to exchange more on this subject, here you have an open thread that is never going to be locked.

It's on you! May all of you who read this make the right decision!

And wish you all the best.
Why are you pushing to keep the drama alive? Members are not all treated the same way, that's not the forum being against newbies/new members, that's the forum letting a persons reputation speak for their character. If you spent years here and have always been a user with good morals and character and you make a mistake, the community is likely going to listen to your story and give you a pass. Depending on the mistake of course. Everyone is free to read the story and make their own judgement. You don't have to be DT to leave a feedback, and not everyone is going to agree.

Everything is based on a case by case basis man. Imo users aren't being biased towards anyone, some have just shown who they are in a better way then others.


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Considering Royse777's actions since the BitLucy fiasco, it shouldn't be a surprise that he locked that thread. However, I expected him at least to keep his word.

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the scam promoter Royse777 only got 2 red tags among a ton of feedback on this matter.
How much negative trust do you want his profile to receive, so that your soul feels satisfied that “justice has been done”?
20 or 30 negative trusts?
Just because you want it done according to your wishes doesn't mean everyone should play by your rules. Members have a right to make any judgement differently or not.

 
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Life is not clearly white and black.

In this forum, we have good members, knowledgeable and experienced. We have detectives and DT members and also new future asset of the forum too. They contribute lot of things in the forum and scam busting is one of such.

But not all accusations are correct. Let me dig into the past that with Livecoin campaign in 2018 or 2019, in forum, there were two sides: one support it is non scam, one consider it as a true scam.

Now, after a few years, they actually exit but back in the days, years ago, the story is not clear like nowadays.

I used to confuse with it, but I believe Livecoin is non scam, and after a long and careful consideration, asking for opinion of some members (that are more experienced than me) they even could not say solid conclusion about Livecoin, I joined their campaign but it is because I believed Livecoin is not scam back in that day. I did not attack Livecoin, called it as scam and then joined it later as a two-faced guy.

Now, for now, I believe Royse777 is non scam but it can be changed in future. We can not say about future at the moment.  Roll Eyes


Please stop the drama about Royse777, except if you have something new (evidence) to say.

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Hello,
There has been a very active discussion about the involvement of user Royse777 in the Bitlucy scam here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403679.0

but the discussion has been locked by Royse777.

Unfortunately (but as expected, since scam is the bottom line of livelihood of many "trusted" members here), the scam promoter Royse777 only got 2 red tags among a ton of feedback on this matter.

Here I am reopening the subject for those interested, to see at the end how many red tags Royse777 is going to get. We do not want a locked thread to be an excuse for not giving a red tag, in case some members need to exchange more on this subject, here you have an open thread that is never going to be locked.

It's on you! May all of you who read this make the right decision!

And wish you all the best.
When looking at her behaviour in that now locked thread, Royse777 came across as immature, temperamental, aggressive and of course the list goes on but she never once came across as remorseful or apologetic.

I think Royse777 locking the thread after posting another wall of text containing nonsensical drama to misdirect away from any questions posed at her, did not surprise me especially after she was being asked questions why she wanted to carry out KYC on a victim when Bitlucy did not exist any longer. After all, Royse777 made a promise to make victims whole again but is now escaping that too by citing another round of nonsense and misdirection.

Also, by you alluding some members would not tag Royse777 because they were in receipt of payments for wearing the signature, you should either apologise and withdraw that comment or elaborate further because you are calling in to question the character of several members without naming names.

Considering Royse777's actions since the BitLucy fiasco, it shouldn't be a surprise that he locked that thread. However, I expected him at least to keep his word.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403679.msg60570852#msg60570852
I would not expect Royse777 to keep her word, I am not surprised at her locking the thread. She never answered the questions related to her part-ownership of the company and so much more instead creating more misdirection so it was a convenient time for Royse777 to lock it.

In my opinion Royse777 was shown far too much goodwill and sympathy by members here, none of it deserved but those that left positive, neutral or negative trust gave their reasons and each is free to do what they want.

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Troll circus show topic is open again and main clowns had to post something because this is their ''bread'' and ''air'' they need to survive in forum.
I think we need a major redesign of DT membership asap, or maybe we need to create special category DC for Default Clowns, wannabe experts, judges and executioners.
OP get a life and don't worry so much about Royse.

To answer OP's question: I think the DT-members who wanted to tag Royse777 have done it by now.
Oh I think I know some of them who wants to give them double or triple negative tag, just to get some extra satisfaction.

Just because you want it done according to your wishes doesn't mean everyone should play by your rules. Members have a right to make any judgement differently or not.
I think this looks like a Ku Klux Klan topic or vampire meeting and they want to see some more blood.





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In my opinion Royse777 was shown far too much goodwill and sympathy by members here, none of it deserved but those that left positive, neutral or negative trust gave their reasons and each is free to do what they want.

It is correct that Royse777 was shown too much goodwill and sympathy by members here. The goodwill is because of the trust he gathered before the scam incident happened. To some members who aren't trusted nor have track of positive trust in the forum, there would have been pills of red trust. But it is very fair that some DT members after reading Royse777 version of the story turned their red tag to neutral.
I believe that by now Royse777 would have been vindicated and the remaining red trusts removed, but I am surprised it has lingered.
I sincerely wish Royse777 can come out of this 100% because for the little I have seen him/her in the forum, he/she is trustworthy.

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Unfortunately (but as expected, since scam is the bottom line of livelihood of many "trusted" members here), the scam promoter Royse777 only got 2 red tags among a ton of feedback on this matter.
I'm not sure what you mean by that.  You seem to be implying that most trusted members scam for a living, and that simply isn't true.  If you've got a personal axe to grind with Royse777, that's fine, but if you really believe that "many" trusted members on the forum behave unethically, perhaps this isn't the right place to spend your time.

I haven't been following this drama at all, and I just now read Royse777's post in his locked thread where he explained everything that went down between Bitlucy and him.  Frankly, if he's guilty of anything it's being too trusting.  And yes, it looks like he should have bailed on the project earlier than he did, but I'm not privy to the interactions he had with all of the people he dealt with, so I can't say I would have done anything different--nor can any of you, if you're being honest with yourselves.

I like this quote from bitmover in Royse777's thread:

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I feel that here in bitcointalk all we have is our reputation. We take years to build it, and it may be lost at once.

IMO, there's no way in hell Royse777 deserves to have his rep destroyed because of his association with Bitlucy.  Those trusted members who've gone rogue usually go the way of Master-P or those fucking idiots who misappropriated charity funds a while back, with b1ankcode (I forget his leetspeak username) being one of them.  They just disappear into the night instead of taking the time to write a detailed explanation of their side of the story, and Royse777 did nothing of the sort.

All of y'all go look at yourselves in the mirror and stop slinging shit at the most convenient (but wrong) target.

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Unfortunately (but as expected, since scam is the bottom line of livelihood of many "trusted" members here)
This is a very wrong and quite offensive statement to make, this is indirectly accusing every trusted member of this forum of being a scammer, what an assumption, on this note, I will like to know how many trusted members of this forum who have scammed you, call them out or just get out.

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the scam promoter Royse777 only got 2 red tags among a ton of feedback on this matter.
You are wrong again, he or she (Royse777) initially had up to 6 red tags or more, but after he came out to explain to every one what really transpired between him(Royse777) and Bitlucy, I believe the taggers withdrew their red tags as they realized that Royse777 wasn't really a scammer but only allowed himself to be used without him knowing he was being used, no doubt, he(Royse777) has leant his lesson and I believe he's currently healing from the wounds.

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Here I am reopening the subject for those interested, to see at the end how many red tags Royse777 is going to get.
The deed is done, and Royse777 has already gotten that which he deserved, it is in the past now, allow what is already in the past to remain in the past, if every issues treated on this forum were to be kept alive till date, i believe that by now, there will be no more room to treat new ones Grin, so please allow the sleeping dog to lay.

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here you have an open thread that is never going to be locked.
How are you so sure that this thread is never going to be locked  Huh Huh, for your information, Mod can decide to lock it, and if they do, theres absolutely nothing you can do about it.

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It's on you! May all of you who read this make the right decision!
Nobody on this forum is a saint, Today, the discussion is on Royse777, tomorrow, the discussion might be on you, and i see you already won 2 red tags to yourself, maybe that is where your anger against Royse777 is coming from, you feel you don't deserve the red tags you got, and seeing someone whom you feel deserved more red tags and yet not getting it angers you.. this is true?

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