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July 26, 2022, 10:23:12 AM |
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Hey guys!
So I am interested in starting an online bitcoin casino, yet i have no idea how to start from. I have a background in coding, and I know the in and outs of integrating crypto, yet i have zero game development skills, and i have no idea how much it will cost, and will it even get users. Any help would be well appreciated! and looking for partners if anyone wants to start that.
Thank you!
I think that the creation of a high quality casino is within the power of the development team if there is an interested investor with a large amount of funds, and it is extremely difficult to build such projects alone. That's right. As long as the development team can work together seriously and always put the common interest first, the casino can definitely develop well and when it is released it can get the attention of many people. They can also attract investors who want to come to invest and as long as the development team can provide what is useful for investors, other investors will also invest in the project. But it is not easy to find people who are dedicated to work together on a project and that also takes time.
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July 26, 2022, 12:34:56 PM |
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If you dont have a skills to create a gambling casino but you have a budget why not hire other people if you don't want you can learn it by your own but of course it tooks how many weeks and months before you finish your own gambling casino, also if you want to create of course you need to explore it what are the things inside the gambling casino so you can add those features to your own at the same time. Currently there are a lot of people already making gambling casino as a freelancer but of course take care of those to hire not all people are trust worthy.
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July 26, 2022, 02:57:50 PM |
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
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July 26, 2022, 03:18:56 PM |
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If you dont have a skills to create a gambling casino but you have a budget why not hire other people if you don't want you can learn it by your own but of course it tooks how many weeks and months before you finish your own gambling casino, also if you want to create of course you need to explore it what are the things inside the gambling casino so you can add those features to your own at the same time. Currently there are a lot of people already making gambling casino as a freelancer but of course take care of those to hire not all people are trust worthy.
Sometimes it's better if you have the money but don't have the skills. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Licensing is one of the problems, you have to know something about rights on using their games and other stuff. With that, you may need someone who knows something about the law. Marketing is next. Even if you acquire all the pieces together from employees to monitor the business to the manager that will supervise everyone, you will need someone or a group to preach the gospel on social media where a lot of people assemble and forums like this one. Posters in the park are not the thing anymore for advertising.
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July 26, 2022, 03:48:24 PM |
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
OP mentioned a budget although we are not sure if that's enough. But regardless of whether the mentioned budget is good or not, that's not enough to start a business where there's no knowledge about anything. OP mentioned he knows how to code and integrate crypto on something but the idea might be different in terms of building a casino website I know the reason for this thread was to gather information as OP didn't know everything. He's in the right place to ask that question here but mainly, it's reasonable to see that he will only receive suggestions and advice here that is out of the technical aspect that he really wants to know. Since OP has a budget and can offer to pay a service, he can look at his co-fellow coders who may be familiar with building a casino website or have experience in doing it in the fiat online casinos field. Since OP is familiar with how to integrate crypto on the website, that's the only thing he needs to work on now.
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July 26, 2022, 11:10:22 PM |
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
to create a casino gambling place it will require a very large amount of money capital and at least the founder must understand the digital world or at least be able to programming languages because if you only rely on money and do not have computer science to build a gambling website system then one day when the developer who is recruited comes out it will be confused and can't check the system for bugs or not so that it can make this gambling owner not exposed to fraud as often happens in cyberspace.
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July 26, 2022, 11:51:02 PM |
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
to create a casino gambling place it will require a very large amount of money capital and at least the founder must understand the digital world or at least be able to programming languages because if you only rely on money and do not have computer science to build a gambling website system then one day when the developer who is recruited comes out it will be confused and can't check the system for bugs or not so that it can make this gambling owner not exposed to fraud as often happens in cyberspace. It would really be needing huge amount of money because this is a business that really needs to be set up properly. Consider the ff: 1. Site Bankroll 2. Site design UI/UX 3. Support or staff members 4. Security etc..... You cant really just not put emphasis on this key areas because it would really be such a waste if your business ending up on a failure just because you hadnt put up emphasis nor importance.
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July 27, 2022, 03:45:46 PM |
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
to create a casino gambling place it will require a very large amount of money capital and at least the founder must understand the digital world or at least be able to programming languages because if you only rely on money and do not have computer science to build a gambling website system then one day when the developer who is recruited comes out it will be confused and can't check the system for bugs or not so that it can make this gambling owner not exposed to fraud as often happens in cyberspace. It would really be needing huge amount of money because this is a business that really needs to be set up properly. Consider the ff: 1. Site Bankroll 2. Site design UI/UX 3. Support or staff members 4. Security etc..... You cant really just not put emphasis on this key areas because it would really be such a waste if your business ending up on a failure just because you hadnt put up emphasis nor importance. I have worked with start up projects before and I have never seen a single serious project with less than $50000 USD seed capital. Usually it is even $100000 USD funding that they require from multiple investors or self-funding. As far as Online Gambling Casinos go, especially considering the risk of having people win large amounts of money that you HAVE TO pay out immediately, I don't think that casinos will need less than double or even triple of that of regular projects. So I am going to take a guess and say that no less than $100000 USD is going to bring you very far, even if you save on developer cost by being a developer yourself.
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July 27, 2022, 04:41:49 PM |
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So I am interested in starting an online bitcoin casino, yet i have no idea how to start from.
If you want to do business especially for online casinos, there are: [GUIDE] 10 complete steps for new casino into this forum., which you need to understand first. You can see and read the initial steps first, before starting to make a Bitcoin casino. Any help would be well appreciated! and looking for partners if anyone wants to start that.
If you want to become one of the online gambling partners, there are several things you need to understand and research, so that you can become a good and trusted partner, For that you need a long time and certainty to start the gambling you want to play is more interesting and professional. Before becoming an online gambling partner, all you need to do is find a master partner or the owner of the largest and most trusted online gambling site in this forum, the master or owner can be your guidance as long as you are a partner, and then what you need to do and prepare is capital, the goal is that you can create a paid website and at the same time for bonuses and buy games that are entered into your website, the bottom line: you need to know in advance the masters of online gambling partners and the owners of the largest online gambling sites.
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Currently there are a lot of people already making gambling casino as a freelancer but of course take care of those to hire not all people are trust worthy.
Freelancers can never be relied upon in this field because they simply will not be able to prove their experience with previous projects. For someone who only has money and some programming experience, the most logical solution is to look for partners from the forum who will help develop a business plan with all the sufficient guarantees, and the escrow services can be used.
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Currently there are a lot of people already making gambling casino as a freelancer but of course take care of those to hire not all people are trust worthy.
Freelancers can never be relied upon in this field because they simply will not be able to prove their experience with previous projects. For someone who only has money and some programming experience, the most logical solution is to look for partners from the forum who will help develop a business plan with all the sufficient guarantees, and the escrow services can be used. You can prove it, for instance with references. If someone built a site, they can ask the owner to confirm it and this way you have a good enough proof that someone can be trusted with the job. It's even easier when it comes to graphic designers. All of them have portfolios and you can see if you like their work beforehand. I feel like OP should start from getting money. A loan or maybe a wealthy partner could help. With less than 100k you're going to waste money and have a site that's not competitive on the market.
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
to create a casino gambling place it will require a very large amount of money capital and at least the founder must understand the digital world or at least be able to programming languages because if you only rely on money and do not have computer science to build a gambling website system then one day when the developer who is recruited comes out it will be confused and can't check the system for bugs or not so that it can make this gambling owner not exposed to fraud as often happens in cyberspace. It is never easy to create a crypto Casino except op has huge amount of fund to make this happen. You need to understand that you will need a lots of money for ads and ambassadors to maintain and have better reputation about your casino. Gamblers need to have trust in a gambling platform for them to keep gambling on it. Most if this casinos that are called scam once started as a neutral or good casinos before they changed hands. Also running a signature campaign can also help.
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I have worked with start up projects before and I have never seen a single serious project with less than $50000 USD seed capital. Usually it is even $100000 USD funding that they require from multiple investors or self-funding. As far as Online Gambling Casinos go, especially considering the risk of having people win large amounts of money that you HAVE TO pay out immediately, I don't think that casinos will need less than double or even triple of that of regular projects. So I am going to take a guess and say that no less than $100000 USD is going to bring you very far, even if you save on developer cost by being a developer yourself. It should be the minimum considering from having capital then it wouldnt really be just enough i must say thats why i do really agree into your inputs about capital and since this is a big business then you cant just put up less considering that there are lots of things need to be adjusted or fixed or to be set up then it wont really be that enough.When you are complete noob about expenses or something then you should really consult someone who do have actually the idea and knowledge on building up these platforms from top to bottom but be careful that you wont really be dealing on someone who would really be taking some advantage of your no knowledge which they can charge you up even more than as usual.This is the hard part when you are dealing on a business which you dont have even the basic idea.
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~ That's right. As long as the development team can work together seriously and always put the common interest first, the casino can definitely develop well and when it is released it can get the attention of many people. They can also attract investors who want to come to invest and as long as the development team can provide what is useful for investors, other investors will also invest in the project. But it is not easy to find people who are dedicated to work together on a project and that also takes time.
"Time is money." Not always, not in every situation, but in business you can say that, okay? If you have funding, you can hire whoever you want, and they will be working together on your project as long as necessary, overtime, whatever. But if you have only your genius idea and no money, and you want to gather a team for working on the idea to profit later ... Well, that happens only in movies and among some teenagers, literal or intellect-wise.
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July 28, 2022, 09:44:45 PM |
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
What if he can be one of the customers first where he will also play gambling inside a casino and who knows maybe he will get lucky and win a big jackpot there. That will be a way a nice way to achieve his dream or he can also use his skill to earn and save up some money. He had a nice skill which was still in demand nowadays and the pay for that skill is also high. That one is more surer than gambling. Having some skill can be helpful in creating our own gambling site but nowadays there are now services which can do the job for you. The only thing that you will be needing is a good amount of money to pay for their service and also to keep your site running.
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Yeah I will have to agree with what most people are saying in this thread. If you cannot make it yourself and you do not have the money to buy the people who can make it for you, then you are out of luck. There is no way for you, a online-casino-newbie to put hard work into your project therefore I doubt you will find any investors who will be interested unless you are very slick at talking. You can try crowdfunding. But you need to show a very detailled and nice idea of the project before anyone will even be interested in listening.
What if he can be one of the customers first where he will also play gambling inside a casino and who knows maybe he will get lucky and win a big jackpot there. That will be a way a nice way to achieve his dream or he can also use his skill to earn and save up some money. He had a nice skill which was still in demand nowadays and the pay for that skill is also high. That one is more surer than gambling. Having some skill can be helpful in creating our own gambling site but nowadays there are now services which can do the job for you. The only thing that you will be needing is a good amount of money to pay for their service and also to keep your site running. Even winning on a casino or saving up money on what he earn isn't that sufficient enough to run a medium type size online casino. Remember that you can't be on a budget on making a casino, There are many things that you need to pay like license, security, developers, bank roll and other factors in it. This is why I think the sole money from just saving on what he earns is not enough. Investors and partners are possible if the casino is ready to operate. Investors and partners is the one that can help you in making the casino grow and market it to the community. I wouldn't think the investors would invest in a conceptual casino, They would basically choose running casino over that conceptual casino.
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Hey guys!
So I am interested in starting an online bitcoin casino, yet i have no idea how to start from. I have a background in coding, and I know the in and outs of integrating crypto, yet i have zero game development skills, and i have no idea how much it will cost, and will it even get users. Any help would be well appreciated! and looking for partners if anyone wants to start that.
Thank you!
It will be more ideal and profitable in the end if you as an online casino owner is also skilled and a good player from the start. Because the fact is, you can’t be good or successful enough if you are not a pro in most of the games because your experience will reflect the future success of your planned endeavor. And I don’t think looking a potential partner will solve that, at least you, yourself can be a good solution in the first place.
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It will be more ideal and profitable in the end if you as an online casino owner is also skilled and a good player from the start. Because the fact is, you can’t be good or successful enough if you are not a pro in most of the games because your experience will reflect the future success of your planned endeavor. And I don’t think looking a potential partner will solve that, at least you, yourself can be a good solution in the first place.
You do not really have to be skilled and to be a good player before you start a casino or any other gambling company, if you have the money, you can start a gambling company that is fully licenced by the sport regulatory organisation in your country. You can get skilled people to work for you. No matter what, as more people gamble using your site, the more you earn more money.
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and i have no idea how much it will cost, and will it even get users. Any help would be well appreciated! and looking for partners if anyone wants to start that.
I think with advertisement it will costs around 4-5 btc to start. This price if you will do the site and everything else by yourself (I doubt that you will be able). So 2-3 btc is for: - Advertisement (On Google, on other sites, on gambling forums, on bitcointalk) - payments to the winners (we are honest casino, are we? ) - salary to managers, SMM and so on (at least for 2-3 first month) But i think the final result will be (FOR SURE) bigger (maybe in 1.5-2 times)
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July 29, 2022, 09:59:27 PM |
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I think with advertisement it will costs around 4-5 btc to start. This price if you will do the site and everything else by yourself (I doubt that you will be able). So 2-3 btc is for:
- Advertisement (On Google, on other sites, on gambling forums, on bitcointalk) - payments to the winners (we are honest casino, are we? ) - salary to managers, SMM and so on (at least for 2-3 first month)
But i think the final result will be (FOR SURE) bigger (maybe in 1.5-2 times)
And as an additional note to OP, that was just a sample figure. Along the way, there are unexpected things that might ruin the original budget. The budget should be continued and not fixed that's why while spending too much on the operation, make sure the site is already functioning with only less technical problems raised, as much as possible. While the team is doing their best on the development, make sure that heavy and hard marketing is also in progress at the same time. With the competition nowadays, marketing is really critical and should be a top priority. Not just that, the team should also think of a way to attract users as advertisements are useless if there's no catchy promotion on the website.
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