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Question: Who wins the rematch?
A. Devin Haney Decision
B. Devin Haney KO/TKO
C. George Kambosos Decision
D. George Kambosos KO/TKO
E. Draw

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August 29, 2022, 11:28:04 AM
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.


since haney's camp is already seeing the possible match-up of haney and loma, then, haney should really work on this upcoming fight and not take kambosos for granted. we should always remember that upset in boxing is always possible, and we had witnessed that a lot of times in the past months. haney is obviously the favourite here when it comes to odds, but we should not disregard kambosos' skills. kambosos knew he's the underdog in this match, so we don't know their plans inside the ring.

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August 29, 2022, 12:19:01 PM
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.


since haney's camp is already seeing the possible match-up of haney and loma, then, haney should really work on this upcoming fight and not take kambosos for granted. we should always remember that upset in boxing is always possible, and we had witnessed that a lot of times in the past months. haney is obviously the favourite here when it comes to odds, but we should not disregard kambosos' skills. kambosos knew he's the underdog in this match, so we don't know their plans inside the ring.

It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.
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August 29, 2022, 01:46:14 PM
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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.

That's very obvious, Kambosos has to find a way to knockout Haney, or else, he will again lose in the judges scorecards. If only he is a knockout artist, then maybe he can find a good timing to counter Haney and knock him cold, but that's not the scenario I'm seeing because Haney's quickness will make him easily win the fight again.

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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.
Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

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August 29, 2022, 04:27:26 PM
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And maybe just to break the ice in this fight, Kambosos said that he is proud of Teo Lopez going to 140 lbs and winning his first fight against Campa. Not sure if this is a complement or something as they have big trash talking fight in the media prior to their fight.

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“Me and Teo always go back and forth,” said Kambosos during a recent interview with FightHype.com. “I still go back at him when he brings up all of these excuses that he has but I’m proud of him. I’m actually very proud of him. To come back after the fight that we had, it shows that he’s a champion. I wish him all the best at 140.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/george-kambosos-praises-teofimo-lopez-following-comeback-win-im-proud-him--168680

Maybe it just humble George when he lost to Haney and now going on a rematch and I will say in a survival mode because this is a must win for him.

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August 30, 2022, 03:10:31 AM
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So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney. George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again. But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.   

This would be the second time around that these boxers will fight inside the ring and by this time, they will be fighting for the undisputed lightweight championship in October 16 in Australia. It was said that the match will happen during the afternoon of the said date and will be viewed in October 15 in United States via streaming if I'm not mistaken. During their first fight, Kambosos was really overwhelmed by the power, stamina, and technical and strong punch and jabs combination delivered by Haney. The record Kambosos achieved during his fight with Lopez was tainted by his recent match. And perhaps he is hoping to win the title back because after his loss, he decided to file for a rematch as soon he had the chance.

They still have a month and a few weeks to prepare and train physically, mentally, and emotionally. I guess the time they have right now is sufficient to condition themselves overall to prepared for this match. Although based on the odds, the crowd's favorite is Haney because of their previous match. His powerful attacks were memorable for the viewers to bet on him again this time. However, Kambosos will surely not back down either.
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August 30, 2022, 03:21:26 AM
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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.
Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.

Both for sure will improved a lot in the second fight, but the adjustment should be more on Kambosos side because he was defeated in the first fight. But what kind of adjustment he needed? that is the big question. But Haney is a different kind of fighter, and I would say that he hasn't face this kind of opponent before that why he was thrown off balance in this fight. He can't used his power because Haney is so elusive and has a good counter. So it's really up to their camp to came up with a good plan and review the tapes and see what went wrong with them in the first fight and not let the same mistakes.

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August 30, 2022, 03:36:29 AM
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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.
Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.
anything is possible to happen , because they are both Good boxer that has 1 punch down but of course it will be the training and preparation in which will decide who will win in this fight.

5 months training is indeed long , but remember that Haney is also preparing and practicing so this is a both effort and skills meaning? who will win or lose is the one that deserves the title .









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August 30, 2022, 04:23:01 AM
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It will not be a surprise if Haney will win again, the one that should work harder here is Kambosos because his career is just starting to get better but if he lose again, he might have to start over again, which for some boxers it will lead to early retirement.
Many people rely on Haney abilities because he is superior to Kambosos, but within 5 months of the previous boxing fight then Kambosos will train hard to improve his abilities for the second fight, maybe his coach has reviewed some records in the previous fight so Kambosos should level up. I think Kambosos is still young so even though he lost for the second time then his boxing career is still long and he has had valuable experience to become a professional boxing career.
A good advantage if he won't lose his focus and continue his journey, he still young and he can still motivate himself to keep growing and continue to enhance his skills in case that in their second meetup Haney still dominates him. Though just like you for me, 5 months is enough to train harder and to find good solutions to all those lapses that he was lacking during their first fight.

It's time to move forward and try to reclaim his belt. It will also be a good time to prove to his fans that he's not done yet, and he's here to stay and hold the title.

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Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.


Kambosos may be silent these days because of the trainings but he can't really change the fact that his chances to win is much smaller than Haney and the latter will indeed make sure that he will still win for the 2nd time around and keep the undisputed name with him along with the belts he earned. No offense for Kambosos fans here but I can't really see an upcoming trilogy and that means that Kambosos will get lost again and pave a way for Haney to Loma soon.

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Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.


Kambosos may be silent these days because of the trainings but he can't really change the fact that his chances to win is much smaller than Haney and the latter will indeed make sure that he will still win for the 2nd time around and keep the undisputed name with him along with the belts he earned. No offense for Kambosos fans here but I can't really see an upcoming trilogy and that means that Kambosos will get lost again and pave a way for Haney to Loma soon.

I agree, Kambosos is welcome to undergo to an intensive training to prepare well but he cannot really deny that Haney can and will dominate him in the ring just like he did in their first encounter. Kambosos is not a knockout specialist too so that makes defeating Haney much more complicated. He should try climbing the next division if in-case he get defeated here in their rematch.

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August 31, 2022, 04:17:29 PM
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Btw, I read somewhere that if ever Haney and Lomachenko win their upcoming fight, Arum promised that the match between this two will happen early next year.

If that's true, then that would be a great match compared to this second match-up. Haney should finish Kambosos in a clean way with Unanimous Decision or Knockout so that we will gonna see some real fight next year. Of course, Loma needs to have a clean win as well. Anyway, this upcoming fight against Kambosos is a real pressure for Haney because Kambosos already have some idea of how he moves, and that would make Haney want to try some new skills in order to avoid his opponent counters.

Both Lomachenko and Haney have a fight, and I believe both have respective easy opponents, so there's a big chance that we will be seeing a Loma vs Haney fight. It's definitely a fight that is worth to watched because it's like a 50-50 chance for both sides.

Everybody loves to see a Loma vs Haney fight. However, I don't see Kambosos Jr. as an easy opponent for Haney. I mean Kambosos is the kind of guy that could go full 12 rounds with the same energy and stamina. Something that you'll never take for granted. Certainly, there will be adjustments from Kambosos camp for the upcoming 2nd match.
As much as the Loma and Haney fight is interesting, this 2nd match is also quite interesting to see how Kambosos will adjust in this 2nd match especially now that they have already tested each other in the first fight.


since haney's camp is already seeing the possible match-up of haney and loma, then, haney should really work on this upcoming fight and not take kambosos for granted. we should always remember that upset in boxing is always possible, and we had witnessed that a lot of times in the past months. haney is obviously the favourite here when it comes to odds, but we should not disregard kambosos' skills. kambosos knew he's the underdog in this match, so we don't know their plans inside the ring.

Obviously this year alone has been almost full of upsets and the famous one is when Canelo lost against Bivol when he is clear the heavy favorite to win over the defending champion of LHW. Haney surely doesn't want to be in the list of upsets that has happened this year or will about to happen, they should look further to avoid that from happening because Kambosos is surely preparing so much for this rematch because he really looks like an amateur boxer in their first encounter.

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September 01, 2022, 04:43:57 PM
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Haney for me will not let the victory he achieved in the first instance be taken away, I don't know, I haven't seen much news about Kamobosos, but I think he must be having one of the training sessions to go out and kill Haney, if this is so we could see that Haney's acknowledgment will make this look like they want to repeat and there will be rematches, if Kambosos wins, then Haney will ask for the rematch, and that's how they will go, that's why I say if this is won by Kamosos, it will make it very interesting, without However, I don't think this will happen, but everything is possible, I think that they can do a good job if both boxers go out with that desire to the ring.


Kambosos may be silent these days because of the trainings but he can't really change the fact that his chances to win is much smaller than Haney and the latter will indeed make sure that he will still win for the 2nd time around and keep the undisputed name with him along with the belts he earned. No offense for Kambosos fans here but I can't really see an upcoming trilogy and that means that Kambosos will get lost again and pave a way for Haney to Loma soon.

I agree, Kambosos is welcome to undergo to an intensive training to prepare well but he cannot really deny that Haney can and will dominate him in the ring just like he did in their first encounter. Kambosos is not a knockout specialist too so that makes defeating Haney much more complicated. He should try climbing the next division if in-case he get defeated here in their rematch.

I guess that will be one of his options when he will be defeated for the 2nd time against Haney, I mean what else he could do in the lightweight division if he doesn't hold any belts anymore? Ryan Garcia is already not interested in him anymore as the young boxer has put his eyes on Tank next, while Tank is also eyeing for Haney. So maybe if Kambosos climb the next division, he could face Teo Lopez again.

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September 03, 2022, 10:50:39 PM
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Obviously this year alone has been almost full of upsets and the famous one is when Canelo lost against Bivol when he is clear the heavy favorite to win over the defending champion of LHW. Haney surely doesn't want to be in the list of upsets that has happened this year or will about to happen, they should look further to avoid that from happening because Kambosos is surely preparing so much for this rematch because he really looks like an amateur boxer in their first encounter.
I do not think that Haney has to worry too much about it, if they were close in terms of technique then there could be some room for worry, but since Haney is so above of Kambosos and this is not something you can learn so quickly the difference between the two should remain wide enough for Haney to get an easy victory, with that being said it is important that Haney still prepares himself properly as we never know what it may happen during a fight.
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So Top Rank's Bob Arum failed to persuade George Kambosos to face another opponent before demanding a rematch with undisputed champion Devin Haney. George Kambosos officially exercised his rematch clause against undisputed champ Devin Haney. The planned date is on October 15 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne. It is the same venue as the very popular Australian Open (tennis).

I think the first fight was very boring and Haney clearly outscored Kambosos. I think it will happen again. But maybe the difference is that Kambosos will let his hands go right after the opening bell. Despite the boring first fight, we better expect another sold-out crowd as this is once in a lifetime experience in Australia. People will still go for sure. It is probably the PPV buys that will take a hit. Unless they both can promote this fight well. Haney is a boring trash-talker though but a mad Kambosos isn't.  

This would be the second time around that these boxers will fight inside the ring and by this time, they will be fighting for the undisputed lightweight championship in October 16 in Australia. It was said that the match will happen during the afternoon of the said date and will be viewed in October 15 in United States via streaming if I'm not mistaken. During their first fight, Kambosos was really overwhelmed by the power, stamina, and technical and strong punch and jabs combination delivered by Haney. The record Kambosos achieved during his fight with Lopez was tainted by his recent match. And perhaps he is hoping to win the title back because after his loss, he decided to file for a rematch as soon he had the chance.

They still have a month and a few weeks to prepare and train physically, mentally, and emotionally. I guess the time they have right now is sufficient to condition themselves overall to prepared for this match. Although based on the odds, the crowd's favorite is Haney because of their previous match. His powerful attacks were memorable for the viewers to bet on him again this time. However, Kambosos will surely not back down either.

This is the 2nd time that these two will fight for the undisputed title in the lightweight division, Haney is already the undisputed champion in this division because he won in their first encounter and Kambosos is just contending again for the title. Well, I think many of us here thought that Kambosos will at least face another opponent in the same division before he pursue a rematch with Haney.

I can't blame Kambosos if he chose to exercise the rematch clause quickly because I bet he cannot accept the fact that he was dominated and was embarrassed in front of his own countrymen, so maybe this time, he got another style of attack or at least prevent being dominated most of the rounds.

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September 06, 2022, 05:01:17 PM
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Obviously this year alone has been almost full of upsets and the famous one is when Canelo lost against Bivol when he is clear the heavy favorite to win over the defending champion of LHW. Haney surely doesn't want to be in the list of upsets that has happened this year or will about to happen, they should look further to avoid that from happening because Kambosos is surely preparing so much for this rematch because he really looks like an amateur boxer in their first encounter.
I do not think that Haney has to worry too much about it, if they were close in terms of technique then there could be some room for worry, but since Haney is so above of Kambosos and this is not something you can learn so quickly the difference between the two should remain wide enough for Haney to get an easy victory, with that being said it is important that Haney still prepares himself properly as we never know what it may happen during a fight.

There is no reason why Haney and his camp needs to worry, and I really think that is also one of the reasons why this fight has almost no hype at all because the people are already expecting Haney to win again in this rematch. I mean, people really do think that Kambosos cannot make a huge difference in this fight in a short amount of time. What we saw in their first encounter is almost an enough reason to believe it's enough, Kambosos will just end up losing his face again in the public.

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September 06, 2022, 06:04:09 PM
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This is the 2nd time that these two will fight for the undisputed title in the lightweight division, Haney is already the undisputed champion in this division because he won in their first encounter and Kambosos is just contending again for the title. Well, I think many of us here thought that Kambosos will at least face another opponent in the same division before he pursue a rematch with Haney.

But he had the right to chase for his old belt so the decision of rushing it is on his side, though I also think that he will try to fight for another fighter from this division before chasing Haney but the rematch was schedule and it means that he wanted to try again, thinking that he might win and reclaim his title. We never know whatever his camp is planning, but if they think that he's really capable, it will be decided inside the ring.

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I can't blame Kambosos if he chose to exercise the rematch clause quickly because I bet he cannot accept the fact that he was dominated and was embarrassed in front of his own countrymen, so maybe this time, he got another style of attack or at least prevent being dominated most of the rounds.

He needs to improve his fighting strategy, that humiliation happened in front of his own crowd so better to think of something new that Haney will not dominate him again, something that will put him in a favoring side, but we never know if there's a chance on him to do that with Haney.

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September 06, 2022, 07:02:46 PM
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This is the 2nd time that these two will fight for the undisputed title in the lightweight division, Haney is already the undisputed champion in this division because he won in their first encounter and Kambosos is just contending again for the title. Well, I think many of us here thought that Kambosos will at least face another opponent in the same division before he pursue a rematch with Haney.

But he had the right to chase for his old belt so the decision of rushing it is on his side, though I also think that he will try to fight for another fighter from this division before chasing Haney but the rematch was schedule and it means that he wanted to try again, thinking that he might win and reclaim his title. We never know whatever his camp is planning, but if they think that he's really capable, it will be decided inside the ring.

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I can't blame Kambosos if he chose to exercise the rematch clause quickly because I bet he cannot accept the fact that he was dominated and was embarrassed in front of his own countrymen, so maybe this time, he got another style of attack or at least prevent being dominated most of the rounds.

He needs to improve his fighting strategy, that humiliation happened in front of his own crowd so better to think of something new that Haney will not dominate him again, something that will put him in a favoring side, but we never know if there's a chance on him to do that with Haney.

He had the right to exercise it right away but we will know it soon if Kambosos and his camp definitely did the right thing for rushing the fight, we didn't know exactly what happened behind the scenes but it looks to me that Kambosos was a having a hard time accepting the reality and that he was overwhelmed by Haney.

I agree, he needs another fresh strategy to overcome Haney's technicalities because if he and his camp cannot find that something that might lead him the win he needed then I'm afraid that Kambosos is just adding the embarrassment he experienced earlier this year.

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September 08, 2022, 12:27:32 PM
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Is anybody here following Haney's Twitter? I like how he is being vocal and at the same time trolling or trash-talking. Last month, Haney was trolling Teofimo Lopez calling his performance like a poor one against a non-ranked fighter.

This month of September he is targeting Tank Davis, calling his WBA regular belt a Mickey Mouse belt. Of course, the WBA belt is not a major title since Haney got the Super WBA belt and all the remaining belts in the division. It's funny because prior to becoming an undisputed champion, Haney was called an e-mail champ after his WBC interim belt was upgraded as the WBC champion after the corrupt WBC president Sulaiman tried to introduce its new WBC Franchise (similar to Super WBA belt) belt as a major belt with higher credits than the usual WBC belt.

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September 08, 2022, 03:41:10 PM
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Is anybody here following Haney's Twitter? I like how he is being vocal and at the same time trolling or trash-talking. Last month, Haney was trolling Teofimo Lopez calling his performance like a poor one against a non-ranked fighter.

This month of September he is targeting Tank Davis, calling his WBA regular belt a Mickey Mouse belt. Of course, the WBA belt is not a major title since Haney got the Super WBA belt and all the remaining belts in the division. It's funny because prior to becoming an undisputed champion, Haney was called an e-mail champ after his WBC interim belt was upgraded as the WBC champion after the corrupt WBC president Sulaiman tried to introduce its new WBC Franchise (similar to Super WBA belt) belt as a major belt with higher credits than the usual WBC belt.

I actually like that he's too vocal, honest,, and opinionated at the same time. Most of his tweets are reliable though he's calling out other boxer's performances in a negative way yet his honest with his reviews. Other boxers and fans are already aware that Haney is just vocal at everything. He says things straight forward without fearing anyone.
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