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Question: Who wins the rematch?
A. Devin Haney Decision
B. Devin Haney KO/TKO
C. George Kambosos Decision
D. George Kambosos KO/TKO
E. Draw

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October 11, 2022, 05:30:40 PM
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That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.
I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.

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October 11, 2022, 05:49:06 PM
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I'm a fan of Davis, and also a fan of Ryan Garcia, I think things will be different once they are in the ring, and I believe that Ryan Garcia has the advantage due to his height and reach, and take note, he is also quick.

No doubt that would be a must-watch fight and if ever Garcia wins, he is undoubtedly a great boxer if he beat Davis without any injury. Ryan Garcia should really consider fighting worthy opponents nowadays since he already fought a number of nobody boxers and with their current popularity and Davis, it will surely be a blockbuster hit and adding up with some roasting against each other before the fight, I tell you, that would be one of the high revenue fights this year.

That's the kind of break he needed, beating a real champion will silence his doubters and he will gain their respect. Garcia has to be more aggressive in choosing an opponent, fighting champions will certainly fast-track him to where he wants to go, and that is a success.

Sooner or later, he will have to fight a real champion whether in Haney or Davis.

But it seems that Ryan wanted more of Davis and he said it's because he want to get his respect. He has to earn it though, if he keeps on fighting just nobody there will be no respect. And so he need to demand GBP to match him with the champion in this division by this time. Haney and Loma is the real big name here, not Tank Davis, just saying.

I agree, I say it's enough baby sitting him because he won't reach that far if Oscar Dela Hoya will keep on protecting him, he cannot overcome his mental issues as well if he'll just face a random unknown boxer. Calling Davis for a fight is a smart move and I think he already have Oscar's blessing for that, I just hope that Davis will give him some time.

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October 11, 2022, 07:44:50 PM
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That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.
I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.

More on that kind of possibilities, they are really chasing each other in case that handlers and promoters start to negotiate. It will be easier from both camps to sell the fight with their fans; I see your point and that is also what I'm seeing with this social posts exchange. They are both pro and they are known fighters who are ready to go inside the ring.

It's just a good negotiation to start everything up. We will see more on these two while waiting for any updates regarding to possibilities of the upcoming fight.

Meanwhile, let's all wait and be focus with the rematch of Haney and Kambosos

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October 11, 2022, 09:08:54 PM
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I'm a fan of Davis, and also a fan of Ryan Garcia, I think things will be different once they are in the ring, and I believe that Ryan Garcia has the advantage due to his height and reach, and take note, he is also quick.

No doubt that would be a must-watch fight and if ever Garcia wins, he is undoubtedly a great boxer if he beat Davis without any injury. Ryan Garcia should really consider fighting worthy opponents nowadays since he already fought a number of nobody boxers and with their current popularity and Davis, it will surely be a blockbuster hit and adding up with some roasting against each other before the fight, I tell you, that would be one of the high revenue fights this year.

That's the kind of break he needed, beating a real champion will silence his doubters and he will gain their respect. Garcia has to be more aggressive in choosing an opponent, fighting champions will certainly fast-track him to where he wants to go, and that is a success.

Sooner or later, he will have to fight a real champion whether in Haney or Davis.

But it seems that Ryan wanted more of Davis and he said it's because he want to get his respect. He has to earn it though, if he keeps on fighting just nobody there will be no respect. And so he need to demand GBP to match him with the champion in this division by this time. Haney and Loma is the real big name here, not Tank Davis, just saying.

I agree, I say it's enough baby sitting him because he won't reach that far if Oscar Dela Hoya will keep on protecting him, he cannot overcome his mental issues as well if he'll just face a random unknown boxer. Calling Davis for a fight is a smart move and I think he already have Oscar's blessing for that, I just hope that Davis will give him some time.

Yes, and hopefully the side of Davis too is willing to give Tank the chance to fight Ryan and don't hinder about it because we all know that they have different promoters.

Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

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October 12, 2022, 10:28:59 AM
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Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

That's their job if they want to sell this fight and earn their expected revenue, hyping the fight should make the fans believe that it will still be a competitive fight, or convince the fans that Kambosos has prepared something to beat Haney in this rematch.

Obviously, our bookies knows what's the real score, they made Haney a heavy favorite just like the previous fight and that will not change, unless there are significant reasons that will decrease the chances of Haney winning the fight.

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October 12, 2022, 11:21:10 AM
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Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

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October 12, 2022, 11:31:56 AM
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Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

True enough, he should win by KO, otherwise, judges will all favor Haney if this goes to 12 rounds. I'm pretty sure that Kambosos area ware that Haney is a very technical fighter, he has a high IQ but despite that, he can also make some mistakes, and that is something Kambosos should capitalize.

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October 12, 2022, 11:46:01 AM
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Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

Yes, it will be the same style, I mean when you Haney hit Kambosos, then it will remember the first fight and then go all out with the plan being throw out of the window. So it's very important for George to really stay in focus in this fight and lesson to his corner and work everything under their plan.

Otherwise, it will be the same outcome Haney's confident will lead him to a unanimous decision in front of George's fan.
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October 12, 2022, 10:09:45 PM
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Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

Yes, it will be the same style, I mean when you Haney hit Kambosos, then it will remember the first fight and then go all out with the plan being throw out of the window. So it's very important for George to really stay in focus in this fight and lesson to his corner and work everything under their plan.

Otherwise, it will be the same outcome Haney's confident will lead him to a unanimous decision in front of George's fan.

Kambosos need to workout with additional plans the first matchup was being dominated by Haney so better to change style and look for another strategy that may be caught Haney off-guard, we know the power of Kambosos once he deliver his solid combinations, just one mistake and Haney can lose back the belt to Kambosos. It's interesting since both fighters are capable of doing adjustments, but we can all say who's going to be on the upper hand once they start showing their skills inside the ring.

It's more entertaining and enjoyable to watch if both fighters will engage in a toe-to-toe exchange of punches.

We will see if they will or it will be on the same page way back their first match up.

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Regarding the fight, I have read and see both of them going to the public and trying to hype the fight. Of course Kambosos says that it will be different in the rematch, but Haney is confident that George can't do anything in the second fight that might put him in danger or something.

Haha, they always say that phrase as they don't want fans to shy away this weekend but in reality, there will be not much change to their styles, and the only chance that Kambosos will win in this rematch is if he could land those haymakers and knockout Haney, if not then this will be a repeat. I'm pretty sure that Haney would be more careful than before to avoid those heavy bombs that George will throw as he knows that is the only way his opponent will win.

At the moment, there are no attractive odds for Haney in my favorite sportsbook so far.

True enough, he should win by KO, otherwise, judges will all favor Haney if this goes to 12 rounds. I'm pretty sure that Kambosos area ware that Haney is a very technical fighter, he has a high IQ but despite that, he can also make some mistakes, and that is something Kambosos should capitalize.

Devin Haney didn't win by knock out in their first fight. And even though the venue is the country of Kambosos which is Australia, yet the judges give the nod to the American Haney because he really outsmart George with his long jab and technical abilities.

He has mistakes no doubt, against Linares he almost went down and his legs did shake. However he was able to bounce back and beat Linares. George needs to him him solid just like what he did again Lopez to have a good chance to win.
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Kickoff week EP 1:

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Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

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Kickoff week EP 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m965T_hft4

Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

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And for those sneaker heads out there, Haney is wearing TS reverse mocha, he knows the game. hehehe

Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. Cheesy

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. Cheesy 
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Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

I think basketball is the most popular sport for black Americans or it could be American football but most of them play basketball.

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October 14, 2022, 09:35:19 AM
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Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

I think basketball is the most popular sport for black Americans or it could be American football but most of them play basketball.

I think there is a chance if he will take the risk, he should be the aggressor and pressure Haney who is a good technical boxer, because if not, the same story will happen in their previous match and no chance for this fight to reach into a trilogy.

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October 14, 2022, 12:13:00 PM
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That may be the case and possible scenario, but I seriously think that Garcia and Davis fight is almost inevitable because both boxers are contesting to reach Haney, Ryan cannot go to Haney directly that is why he is teasing Davis because that is his key to have a fight with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney and I sincerely hope that this fight will happen soon.
I doubt that's the reason why Garcia and Davis doesn't want to fight each other. Honestly every fight of both Garcia and Davis, they're always become a favorited boxer and they're not become a challenger. This because they're don't want to lose and ruin their undefeated record. Fight with Haney obviously will make they become underdog and there's a big possibility they will lose. Moreover there's a news if they're looking for move to higher weight division.

Whatever it is, it's still unclear what Garcia and Davis wanted because they could fight anytime if they wanted to, maybe, just maybe, they are still building the hype to make sure that their fight will sell out in case they will make it happen in the future. And I think what you said was just a rumor, we can't either confirm if they're really looking forward to climb the next division.

More on that kind of possibilities, they are really chasing each other in case that handlers and promoters start to negotiate. It will be easier from both camps to sell the fight with their fans; I see your point and that is also what I'm seeing with this social posts exchange. They are both pro and they are known fighters who are ready to go inside the ring.

It's just a good negotiation to start everything up. We will see more on these two while waiting for any updates regarding to possibilities of the upcoming fight.

Meanwhile, let's all wait and be focus with the rematch of Haney and Kambosos

Well, that possibility has gotten bigger now and it's been in the news that Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia decided to have some small talk in a club and afterwards they both posted "done" which brings curiousity to the people. Later on, it's been revealed that both camps are indeed having some discussion to make this fight happen, I assume it will happen in December or January. Meanwhile, Kambosos vs Haney fight is already around the corner. What do you think mate, will Kambosos outbox Haney this time?  Grin

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I'm a fan of Davis, and also a fan of Ryan Garcia, I think things will be different once they are in the ring, and I believe that Ryan Garcia has the advantage due to his height and reach, and take note, he is also quick.

No doubt that would be a must-watch fight and if ever Garcia wins, he is undoubtedly a great boxer if he beat Davis without any injury. Ryan Garcia should really consider fighting worthy opponents nowadays since he already fought a number of nobody boxers and with their current popularity and Davis, it will surely be a blockbuster hit and adding up with some roasting against each other before the fight, I tell you, that would be one of the high revenue fights this year.

That's the kind of break he needed, beating a real champion will silence his doubters and he will gain their respect. Garcia has to be more aggressive in choosing an opponent, fighting champions will certainly fast-track him to where he wants to go, and that is a success.

Sooner or later, he will have to fight a real champion whether in Haney or Davis.

But it seems that Ryan wanted more of Davis and he said it's because he want to get his respect. He has to earn it though, if he keeps on fighting just nobody there will be no respect. And so he need to demand GBP to match him with the champion in this division by this time. Haney and Loma is the real big name here, not Tank Davis, just saying.

I agree, I say it's enough baby sitting him because he won't reach that far if Oscar Dela Hoya will keep on protecting him, he cannot overcome his mental issues as well if he'll just face a random unknown boxer. Calling Davis for a fight is a smart move and I think he already have Oscar's blessing for that, I just hope that Davis will give him some time.

Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.
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Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

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October 14, 2022, 01:20:37 PM
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Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.

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Golden Boy already know that it's indeed time for Garcia to face boxer that is near his prowess/caliber, Javier Fortuna was his last test to make sure if Garcia is already fit to fight heavy names and it turns out that Garcia can do it because he defeated Fortuna with a good outcome and no signs of struggles. Although Tank Davis is a different story because he is an experienced boxer who defeated big names in industry unlike Garcia, but the latter have the chance because he have a good KO power.

It's rare to have a boxer like Garcia who has both the charisma and skills to be a champion, that's why they are carefully giving him some fights that are not really that interesting because of his poor opponents. But this is just their way to make him strong and when the time they finally let them fight against a boxer like Tank Davis, he already learned a lot and has a higher chance to defeat him because already has enough pre-fights to face strong opponents.

So what do you think? is he already ready to fight a champion in his next game? Because if you'll ask me, I would say 100% ready, he has to take a bigger risk if he wants to earn bigger reward, and fighting Tank Davis could be a good one, not the toughest fight for sure but it's not going to be easy either.

I think Ryan is already ready to fight a champion, regardless if it is Davis or the winner of this fight. It's that Ryan is really set in against Davis, for unknown reason, he just said that he wanted respect in this division so he is willing to face the biggest puncher in Davis. However, the belt is on the line again between Haney and Kambosos and this is the fight that Ryan should be looking, if he just wanted to get the respect. Win the belt and for sure everyone will come after him.

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October 14, 2022, 07:50:37 PM
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Kickoff week EP 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m965T_hft4

Good to see that the Haney's are giving credit to the Victorian government to have this fight stage again in Australia.

And I would agree that Kambosos is quiet now, hehehe. I think he is just giving respect to Haney. Or he knows that his mind games is not going to work on him so he would rather do the opposite and not to trash talk him that much and just focus to redeem his name.

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And for those sneaker heads out there, Haney is wearing TS reverse mocha, he knows the game. hehehe

Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. Cheesy

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. Cheesy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-4RaZLoQY

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

I think basketball is the most popular sport for black Americans or it could be American football but most of them play basketball.

Lol, that's pysche war already, we all know what that book is all about hehehe.

Yes, I do agree, he didn't let his hands go in the first fight, however, it was due to Haney length and reach advantage that Kambosos has difficulty. And Haney's defense is truly amazing, good reflexes, duck when George is trying to be aggressive and then throw combinations in return. Might be close in the second fight, but in the end Haney will retain his belt.

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October 14, 2022, 11:02:29 PM
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Haney is better thankful and does not criticize the Australian government if he doesn't want it to pay the ring officials. Cheesy

George is better off not talking a lot of shit because he fucked up in that first fight. Talking again and losing badly again would only generate hate from his local fans who traveled for hours just to watch his fights and he already failed the first one by not letting his hands go.

George has no right to talk shit  Grin, he was beaten the first time they met, if he wanted to have right, George must beat Haney on their next fight.

There was noise though in the press conference. Haney's dad presented an Art Of War book as a gift but George just threw it away. Cheesy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4-4RaZLoQY

The gift is an insult as far as I see it.  But Kambosos should just humble himself down and accept the gift as a gesture and do his best to win the fight and give back the book right after he take a win on his next match.

Seriously though I think George has a real chance of winning or at least make it close. But he really needs to let his hands go. His team kept telling him in the first fight to let his hands go and not just 1-2 but 3 to 5 combinations like what they trained to do. 

I also think George has a chance, he has lots of sparring with Manny Pacquiao and he should have learned something from it.  Aside from that he should let go of his hands and not let Haney dictates the fight.

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