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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
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October 16, 2022, 12:34:52 PM |
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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
We never know, if Kambasos would stay in the current division, then he won't be a champion again, maybe it's time for him to move up and try his luck, but the way I see it, it looks like his full talent has already been displayed and he is not as great as the boxers whom fans admire and believed to be a future hall of famer. What about a rematch between Kambosos and Lopez? I think that would be fun.
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October 16, 2022, 10:29:43 PM |
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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
We never know, if Kambasos would stay in the current division, then he won't be a champion again, maybe it's time for him to move up and try his luck, but the way I see it, it looks like his full talent has already been displayed and he is not as great as the boxers whom fans admire and believed to be a future hall of famer. What about a rematch between Kambosos and Lopez? I think that would be fun. Yeah, maybe at 140 lbs we might see Kambosos vs Lopez again and it will be great because of the trash talking between the two. At least Teo will have something to say now because he has lost his belt to Haney. It's just a bad stylistic match up for Kambosos and Haney just took him to school I might say. And definitely his style has been exposed and I feel bad for George losing back to back in his home soil. And so the hype on him is over. He might comeback with some win against no name fighters just to bring back his confidence again.
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October 17, 2022, 01:37:25 AM |
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Another bad loss for Kambosos II. Haney deserves to win. Although this counter puncher couldn't finish a losing opponent who's already punished and was just barely standing, the entire fight was really his.
Kambosos II started the fight as if he's a changed fighter, shifting stances, but he wasn't throwing away punches. He didn't close the distance. He didn't setup his powerful right with a nice jab or jabs. He was just there dancing around. How could he win? Punches in boxing aren't Bitcoin. It's not wise to hodl them.
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October 17, 2022, 07:20:24 AM |
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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
We never know, if Kambasos would stay in the current division, then he won't be a champion again, maybe it's time for him to move up and try his luck, but the way I see it, it looks like his full talent has already been displayed and he is not as great as the boxers whom fans admire and believed to be a future hall of famer. What about a rematch between Kambosos and Lopez? I think that would be fun. Yeah, maybe at 140 lbs we might see Kambosos vs Lopez again and it will be great because of the trash talking between the two. At least Teo will have something to say now because he has lost his belt to Haney. It's just a bad stylistic match up for Kambosos and Haney just took him to school I might say. And definitely his style has been exposed and I feel bad for George losing back to back in his home soil. And so the hype on him is over. He might comeback with some win against no name fighters just to bring back his confidence again. It's still early, he can continue fighting and redeem himself. More fights and training, for sure he will again have a big fight, a championship fight but of course as a fan, we won't trust him right away since we know his weakness already. Kambosos was still lucky to be a champion once, it's just that he choose the wrong opponent, his style has no match against Haney.
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October 17, 2022, 09:14:22 AM |
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Another bad loss for Kambosos II. Haney deserves to win. Although this counter puncher couldn't finish a losing opponent who's already punished and was just barely standing, the entire fight was really his.
Kambosos II started the fight as if he's a changed fighter, shifting stances, but he wasn't throwing away punches. He didn't close the distance. He didn't setup his powerful right with a nice jab or jabs. He was just there dancing around. How could he win? Punches in boxing aren't Bitcoin. It's not wise to hodl them.
I think he did try his best on the first couple of rounds, but it's just Haney is very elusive as well and although George has some success, Haney adjusted in the first and that's why it was a complete domination by Devin. George did everything he can but he can't setup his powerful right just like in Teo Lopez fight because Haney's defense is one of the best. We shall move on with this fight, Haney remains the undisputed champion and it's 2-0 against George Kambosos.
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October 17, 2022, 11:53:38 AM |
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Another bad loss for Kambosos II. Haney deserves to win. Although this counter puncher couldn't finish a losing opponent who's already punished and was just barely standing, the entire fight was really his.
Kambosos II started the fight as if he's a changed fighter, shifting stances, but he wasn't throwing away punches. He didn't close the distance. He didn't setup his powerful right with a nice jab or jabs. He was just there dancing around. How could he win? Punches in boxing aren't Bitcoin. It's not wise to hodl them.
I think he did try his best on the first couple of rounds, but it's just Haney is very elusive as well and although George has some success, Haney adjusted in the first and that's why it was a complete domination by Devin. George did everything he can but he can't setup his powerful right just like in Teo Lopez fight because Haney's defense is one of the best. We shall move on with this fight, Haney remains the undisputed champion and it's 2-0 against George Kambosos. Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
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October 17, 2022, 12:29:40 PM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights.
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October 17, 2022, 10:46:28 PM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights. And that is the ironic part of it, Haney is now the man, accomplished so much already and yet he didn't get the respect and recognition he deserved because of his style because as you have said, and I agree with it, that Haney's style if very boring or at least he doesn't have the persona that you hate him that's why you will go and watch his fight because you want to witness him getting knock out. On the other hand, the brandish style of King Ryan and Tank Davis is what the fans wanted to see. That's why even though they don't have any regular belt, their fight will made a lot of money and hype as compare to Haney defending all the belts against Kambosos the 2nd time around.
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October 18, 2022, 06:16:09 AM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights. Most likely, but isn't it too much of a talent having the speed, the ring IQ, and a KO artist? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well, not every boxers are perfect, they also have their weakness, but the good thing with Haney is that he was able to use his skills very well nad it is evident by his undefeated record.
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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
And Haney was the youngest boxer who became an undisputed champion, that is hard to attain for a 23 years young boxer like him and that is a record that will be hard to break for years. But for Kambosos, we already saw his ability and skills but his camp still wanted a rematch to show what Kambosos is made of. Honestly, I don't believe that he can make a difference in this rematch and he is not the boxer who will give Haney a hard time. After this, he should move to the next division just like what Teo did because his time in lightweight division is over.
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And Haney was the youngest boxer who became an undisputed champion, that is hard to attain for a 23 years young boxer like him and that is a record that will be hard to break for years.
Don't forget Teofimo Lopez is considered a young 4 belts undisputed champion too since he was still 23 years at that time, Haney is a complete version of Lopez since he's missing the other one belt. But for Kambosos, we already saw his ability and skills but his camp still wanted a rematch to show what Kambosos is made of. Honestly, I don't believe that he can make a difference in this rematch and he is not the boxer who will give Haney a hard time. After this, he should move to the next division just like what Teo did because his time in lightweight division is over.
Yeah Kambosos journey at lightweight division is already over, if he move ot the next weight division, maybe many fans wanted a rematch Kambosos vs Lopez. But if Kambosos, it will make his reputation worse since he's keep losing against top boxers. After this fight, it's high likely Kambosos will fight against Lomachenko, if Haney still win he obviously will move to the next weight since there's no one can match him.
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October 18, 2022, 03:28:24 PM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights. Yes, that is what he lack but it is his style which made him to reach this far, at a young age, he already built his name on one of the most competitive division in the boxing industry. Haney is just too clever for Kambosos even if the latter improved, Haney upped his level to embarrass Kambosos again in front of his countrymen.
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October 18, 2022, 09:19:41 PM |
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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
And Haney was the youngest boxer who became an undisputed champion, that is hard to attain for a 23 years young boxer like him and that is a record that will be hard to break for years. But for Kambosos, we already saw his ability and skills but his camp still wanted a rematch to show what Kambosos is made of. Honestly, I don't believe that he can make a difference in this rematch and he is not the boxer who will give Haney a hard time. After this, he should move to the next division just like what Teo did because his time in lightweight division is over. Yes, no one really see what Haney has done, very young at 23 and yet he had all the belt under his waist that only Ryan Garcia dream, Lol. For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.
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October 18, 2022, 09:24:09 PM |
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^^ Yes, and a young age of 23 he has accomplished a lot, undisputed and without a lost, that is truly a amazing accomplishment for him. And I guess Kambosos is just one hit wonder and I doubt that he can be a champion again. He is a warrior no doubt, but against the best, I don't think he can win with the likes of Davis or Ryan Garcia. But it will be good to see him match against those two though. Just to have some excitement again. And now we are hype seeing this version of Haney against Lomachenko.
And Haney was the youngest boxer who became an undisputed champion, that is hard to attain for a 23 years young boxer like him and that is a record that will be hard to break for years. But for Kambosos, we already saw his ability and skills but his camp still wanted a rematch to show what Kambosos is made of. Honestly, I don't believe that he can make a difference in this rematch and he is not the boxer who will give Haney a hard time. After this, he should move to the next division just like what Teo did because his time in lightweight division is over. Yes, no one really see what Haney has done, very young at 23 and yet he had all the belt under his waist that only Ryan Garcia dream, Lol. I do agree, him and his father are a perfect combination, and not just his skills, I guess the mindset as well leading up to the rematch. Watch those episodes and this guys prepare him not just his body, but his mind to be very positive and so he accomplished a lot at his age as compare to other boxers. For Kambosos, it will be a difficult road for him, losing back to back and the best thing is to go up in weight. But then again, he doesn't have any power to be honest, I don't know how he knock down Teo in their fight, maybe Lopez underestimated him.
He should move if he can't make the weight. I remember during the first fight, he was off in the first try. Although me made the weight in the second fight, he seems to be very dry and lean.
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October 19, 2022, 09:08:09 AM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights. It could be mate because Haney will definitely not try to be aggressor round 3 up to the last round. Maybe he felt that Kambosos has no power in him, as he can eat everything that George throw and then he shows that somewhat he has some when he beat Kambosos to the punch and then batter him the full 12 rounds causing Kambosos face to swell and cut with blood. But if George has power, like le't say Ryan Garcia, it could be a different outcome and strategy for Devin Haney and his team as they will have to avoid that power punches and he could be more defensive.
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October 19, 2022, 12:12:33 PM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights. It could be mate because Haney will definitely not try to be aggressor round 3 up to the last round. Maybe he felt that Kambosos has no power in him, as he can eat everything that George throw and then he shows that somewhat he has some when he beat Kambosos to the punch and then batter him the full 12 rounds causing Kambosos face to swell and cut with blood. But if George has power, like le't say Ryan Garcia, it could be a different outcome and strategy for Devin Haney and his team as they will have to avoid that power punches and he could be more defensive. That was also the only time I saw that Haney was very aggressive, he was supposed to play safe and stay technical all throughout the game, but maybe he knows that fans does not like that style, they want an entertaining one, so Haney just trying to please the fans and indeed he won.
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October 19, 2022, 10:39:55 PM |
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For those who are interested on the PPV numbers, as reported: Nielsen Media Research revealed that their second 135-pound championship match drew an average audience of 935,000. Viewership peaked at 970,000 for a main event that ended approximately five minutes before Deontay Wilder’s first-round knockout of Robert Helenius began on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View. However, it is down as compared to their last fight: The first bout between Haney (29-0, 15 KOs) and Kambosos (20-2, 10 KOs) drew an average audience of 1,322,000 and a peak audience of 1,351,000 four months ago. https://www.boxingscene.com/haney-kambosos-rematch-watched-by-an-average-935000-viewers-on-espn--169844But still though, I think the numbers are good and for sure the promoters are very happy to see this big numbers assuming that the fight happened in Australia and probably most buys are coming from the Aussies themselves.
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October 19, 2022, 10:44:15 PM |
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Haney was smart because he made the right adjustment, but when Haney adjusted, Kambosos should also counter it, but it didn't happen, he stick with his strategy despite the fact that Haney had already read it, Kambosos was lucky that Haney is not a KO artist, if he was, that fight would certainly end in KO.
I think the outcome would be different if Haney is a knock-out artist as he will be the aggressor and prone to Kambosos' counters just like what happened to Teofimo Lopez. Haney's style has brought him this far and the only downside of his style is how to draw a large crowd to watch his fights because, to be honest most of the fans are not excited to watch his fights. It could be mate because Haney will definitely not try to be aggressor round 3 up to the last round. Maybe he felt that Kambosos has no power in him, as he can eat everything that George throw and then he shows that somewhat he has some when he beat Kambosos to the punch and then batter him the full 12 rounds causing Kambosos face to swell and cut with blood. But if George has power, like le't say Ryan Garcia, it could be a different outcome and strategy for Devin Haney and his team as they will have to avoid that power punches and he could be more defensive. That was also the only time I saw that Haney was very aggressive, he was supposed to play safe and stay technical all throughout the game, but maybe he knows that fans does not like that style, they want an entertaining one, so Haney just trying to please the fans and indeed he won. Yes and he has adjusted to Kambosos power, and so he was able to absorb it without any issues or problem in his chin. And then most probably he wanted to show more and make it as entertaining for the Australian fans although he is beating their very own boxer. And at least they are satisfied with the fight itself, they pay big money about it and it's just so they have the right to see and be entertained. Although it is a one sided beating, Haney shows different bag of tricks and it is very exciting to see him with that style against Loma.
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October 20, 2022, 05:42:09 AM |
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And Haney was the youngest boxer who became an undisputed champion, that is hard to attain for a 23 years young boxer like him and that is a record that will be hard to break for years.
Don't forget Teofimo Lopez is considered a young 4 belts undisputed champion too since he was still 23 years at that time, Haney is a complete version of Lopez since he's missing the other one belt. But for Kambosos, we already saw his ability and skills but his camp still wanted a rematch to show what Kambosos is made of. Honestly, I don't believe that he can make a difference in this rematch and he is not the boxer who will give Haney a hard time. After this, he should move to the next division just like what Teo did because his time in lightweight division is over.
Yeah Kambosos journey at lightweight division is already over, if he move ot the next weight division, maybe many fans wanted a rematch Kambosos vs Lopez. But if Kambosos, it will make his reputation worse since he's keep losing against top boxers. After this fight, it's high likely Kambosos will fight against Lomachenko, if Haney still win he obviously will move to the next weight since there's no one can match him. Yes, Teo Lopez is good, he already proved that when he defeated Commey and Loma. But he fell short when Kambosos faced him that's why he didn't faced Haney. We never know, Teo could face George again in the next division. But for Haney, he's still young and a bit early to tell what will he do in his career.
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