[DOTA2] PGL Arlington Major 2022 Prediction Thread

[Coin_trader]

I will update later once odds is available already on sportsbet

League Information

Series: Dota Pro Circuit Dota Pro Circuit
Organizer: PGL
Type: Offline
Location: United States Arlington
Venue: Esports Stadium Arlington
Format: Round-robin group stage
Double-elimination playoffs
Prize pool: $500,000 USD
Start Date: 2022-08-04
End Date: 2022-08-14
Teams: 17
Pro Circuit Points: 4,570
Liquipedia tier: Tier 1
Pro Circuit Tier: Major Premier Tournament held by Valve

Prize Pool

Participants

Note:
1 Fnatic will be allowed to participate with three substitutes as the main roster encountered difficulties obtaining US visas.
2 Xtreme Gaming withdrew from the tournament.
3 Pure is unable to attend the major, SabeRLight- will stand-in.
4 Q is unable to attend the major, Xepher will stand-in.[13]
5 DarkMago is unable to attend the major, Alone will stand-in.
6 Valqui is unable to attend the major, Accel will stand-in.
7 Ghost is unable to attend the major, ana will stand-in.
8 Misha and Chuvash are unable to attend the major, Ceb will stand-in.
9 Quincy Crew is signed by Soniqs.


Most of the teams here is on complete roster except Fnatic which has 3 players is not available due to Visa issue as stated on the note. I wonder if PSG LGD can still dominate this league while there's a lot of new strong teams that is now available to compete with them.

Do you think Ceb will play again for OG on this majors?

Who do you think will win on this majors again?

Source: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/PGL/Arlington_Major/2022

[Eternad]

What the hell happened to Fnatic. They have enough time to take care of there Visa and yet they let this happened to them while they need this DPC points badly for there TI ticket. This is very careless of there manager because he assume that they can get the visa easily without any research. This is very sad to see miss this big opportunity to get DPC points. I think they will get substitute from PH players that didn’t have a chance to go on this major like players of T1.

[jakelyson]

Too bad for FNATIC. It is already too hard to win in this tournament with a complete lineup. what more with 3 stand ins. I am considering them out of this tournament.

Do you think Ceb will play again for OG on this majors?

I love to see him play again but isn't he already retired? And I think OG young players need more exposure going to TI.

Who do you think will win on this majors again?

I am expecting those who needs DPC points to step up. Maybe team Spirit can win this tournament this time. They lost to LGD in Riyadh, maybe they want to make a comeback here.

[AbuBhakar]

I am expecting those who needs DPC points to step up. Maybe team Spirit can win this tournament this time. They lost to LGD in Riyadh, maybe they want to make a comeback here.

Team Spirit just finished 3rd place on the list DPC Tounament in EEU while most of the teams in WEU is not completed on Riyadh Master tournament. Most of the powerhouse team in every region didn't enter on Riyadh Master while LGD and Team Spirit has a complete line-up that's why they manage to be on the finals/ I believe a different story will happened on Majors because there's a lot at stake in there because of the DPC points which is crucial for TI.

[dimonstration]

Complete Tundra and Liquid are the best team in the league that can rival LGD. LGD got beaten badly by Team Secret on Riyadh so they are not unbeatable if they fight the right team that has a consistent play. Team Spirit is out of gas after they manage to beat Team Secret on a close fight. The finals on Riyadh should be best of 5 so that team can have a chance to recover on an early deficits. LGD and other teams that secured TI might not give 100% here since the DPC points is the highlights of the rewards for this Major. Westill have 1 week of waiting.

[vennali]

Complete Tundra and Liquid are the best team in the league that can rival LGD. LGD got beaten badly by Team Secret on Riyadh so they are not unbeatable if they fight the right team that has a consistent play. Team Spirit is out of gas after they manage to beat Team Secret on a close fight. The finals on Riyadh should be best of 5 so that team can have a chance to recover on an early deficits. LGD and other teams that secured TI might not give 100% here since the DPC points is the highlights of the rewards for this Major. Westill have 1 week of waiting.

PSG. LGD won the Riyadh tournament with relative ease. They looked like a complete team that could beat anyone in their best of forms. Just beautiful dota to watch and they werent trying to go through some broken strats as some teams like to use to win games. They should be the favs again. They did lose 2-0 to Team Secret and they did drop a game vs OG and Nigma Galaxy but still I never had a doubt that they'd end up losing in the decider. They are a level above everyone else at the moment. you could say that they probably don't need DPC points but money/Prizepool is enough of a motivation to do well in the tournament. It is a tier 1 Tournament.

[Coin_trader]

Although I agree on most of your speculation but I still believe on Team Liquid and Outsider will show an impressive run on this Majors not just because they win the top spot with there respctive DPC region but because there DPC points is still a bit short to qualified winning this majors or having a top spot will give them enough points to secured spot on TI.

This is enough motivation to win this major compared to OG, LGD and other top teams that already secured TI spot and also the prize pool here is not much huge.

[dothebeats]

I'm rooting for Outsiders to at least secure a better position for this particular tournament. Gpk showed us that he still got it, although there are times that his mid lane's lack of rotations around the map can hinder him from being enabled. He's not a typical lane dominator, nor is he an aggressive carry that can work hand in hand with his support to farm for kills, but his ability to find farm even though the map is already closed in against his team is what's really impressive for me. Well, DM is great in creating space, there's that, but still.

I am expecting those who needs DPC points to step up. Maybe team Spirit can win this tournament this time. They lost to LGD in Riyadh, maybe they want to make a comeback here.

Team Spirit just finished 3rd place on the list DPC Tounament in EEU while most of the teams in WEU is not completed on Riyadh Master tournament. Most of the powerhouse team in every region didn't enter on Riyadh Master while LGD and Team Spirit has a complete line-up that's why they manage to be on the finals/ I believe a different story will happened on Majors because there's a lot at stake in there because of the DPC points which is crucial for TI.

Team Secret isn't also complete on their lineup. They have Resolution as a stand-in but they still did well, even going so far as being undefeated for a time being before they slipped away from that footing.

Complete Tundra and Liquid are the best team in the league that can rival LGD. LGD got beaten badly by Team Secret on Riyadh so they are not unbeatable if they fight the right team that has a consistent play. Team Spirit is out of gas after they manage to beat Team Secret on a close fight. The finals on Riyadh should be best of 5 so that team can have a chance to recover on an early deficits. LGD and other teams that secured TI might not give 100% here since the DPC points is the highlights of the rewards for this Major. Westill have 1 week of waiting.

I beg to differ. Tundra's style of play does not match the aggression of PSG.LGD in mid game. As for Liquid, they do have a funky way of handling mid game to enable their cores before they make moves, while PSG.LGD is just constantly throwing them anything that they have to make them respond to those. The team who doesn't respond to the aggression of PSG.LGD wins the game, that's what I noticed.

[Peanutswar]

Theres alot of teams cannot make a good fight with this upcoming major because of due to visa issue with the boom e-sports already two of them can go and fix their visa and the other team most of them cannot make it, with this Match up I guess the top 4 teams again in the final match is between the Team Spirit, OG, Liquid and LGD we know how these teams have a good initiation and makes a good rotation, Im a fan with the EG but still if there's bulba and R2R still they cannot make it back as one of the Major Champions.

[Eternad]

Theres alot of teams cannot make a good fight with this upcoming major because of due to visa issue with the boom e-sports already two of them can go and fix their visa and the other team most of them cannot make it, with this Match up I guess the top 4 teams again in the final match is between the Team Spirit, OG, Liquid and LGD we know how these teams have a good initiation and makes a good rotation, Im a fan with the EG but still if there's bulba and R2R still they cannot make it back as one of the Major Champions.

Even with complete Boom will have a hard time on competing top teams on different region. Team Spirit is not the top team on there region so I don’t think forgetting about Navi and Outsider is a good idea to predict finals outcome. Quincy Crew is another team to look out on this major because they improved a lot since there last year performance.

[dimonstration]

I beg to differ. Tundra's style of play does not match the aggression of PSG.LGD in mid game. As for Liquid, they do have a funky way of handling mid game to enable their cores before they make moves, while PSG.LGD is just constantly throwing them anything that they have to make them respond to those. The team who doesn't respond to the aggression of PSG.LGD wins the game, that's what I noticed.

Tundra is different on Riyadh because they don't have 33 on there roster which typically the play maker and making the setup for Tundra. The substitue player Daxak is not yet synchronized to Tundra that’s why they can’t have the same aggression when 33 is the iniator. I believe on full potential of Tundra as whole team because they can give space for Skitter if they have a good laning phase.

LGD is weak on best of 5 games because they have same game pattern and once you counter them, They don't have anything to do against it.

[AbuBhakar]

Do you think Ceb will play again for OG on this majors?

Your question is already answered. Ceb is once again will go to Arlington Majors with the boys after Misha failed to secure his visa. I dunno how you expect this to happened but I’m surprised OG will be reckless to secured Msha visa for this this kind of tournament, Not once but twice.

I know Ceb will be better to replace Misha but I’m concern if this line-up will work again while chinese team is already in the table.

https://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/ceb-returns-to-og-for-the-pgl-arlington-major-2022

[crwth]

I remember that in Stockholm Majors, OG has claimed victory this 2022 but only 3rd on the Riyadh Masters. So I'm betting that OG would still be in the top 3 of this tournament.

I think Ceb will still play in this tournament. Is there any news about it, though?

[Coin_trader]

Do you think Ceb will play again for OG on this majors?

Your question is already answered. Ceb is once again will go to Arlington Majors with the boys after Misha failed to secure his visa. I dunno how you expect this to happened but I’m surprised OG will be reckless to secured Msha visa for this this kind of tournament, Not once but twice.

I know Ceb will be better to replace Misha but I’m concern if this line-up will work again while chinese team is already in the table.

https://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/ceb-returns-to-og-for-the-pgl-arlington-major-2022

Lol. I’m just trolling when I post such question in the thread above. I never thought that Misha will encounter same issue to a same major tournament. Is it just a coincidence or they are doing it on purpose just to give Ceb play time. 

Ceb mindset is what makes OG strong in tournament like this, We witness already how good Ceb when they are under pressure or in the brink of losing. I think he is very good on commanding this young talents.

I remember that in Stockholm Majors, OG has claimed victory this 2022 but only 3rd on the Riyadh Masters. So I'm betting that OG would still be in the top 3 of this tournament.

I think Ceb will still play in this tournament. Is there any news about it, though?

Yes he will play, check above post link for the news.

[jakelyson]

Do you think Ceb will play again for OG on this majors?

Your question is already answered. Ceb is once again will go to Arlington Majors with the boys after Misha failed to secure his visa. I dunno how you expect this to happened but I’m surprised OG will be reckless to secured Msha visa for this this kind of tournament, Not once but twice.

I know Ceb will be better to replace Misha but I’m concern if this line-up will work again while chinese team is already in the table.

https://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/ceb-returns-to-og-for-the-pgl-arlington-major-2022

Lol. I’m just trolling when I post such question in the thread above. I never thought that Misha will encounter same issue to a same major tournament. Is it just a coincidence or they are doing it on purpose just to give Ceb play time. 

Ceb mindset is what makes OG strong in tournament like this, We witness already how good Ceb when they are under pressure or in the brink of losing. I think he is very good on commanding this young talents.

I remember that in Stockholm Majors, OG has claimed victory this 2022 but only 3rd on the Riyadh Masters. So I'm betting that OG would still be in the top 3 of this tournament.

I think Ceb will still play in this tournament. Is there any news about it, though?

Yes he will play, check above post link for the news.

I wonder if this is Ceb's response to TorontoTokyo when interviewed in Riyadh. Toronto said he wanted OG to win in the semis because he believe OG is weaker and LGD is harder to beat.

Ceb is back to show Toronto that OG is strong.

Far fetched but you know how attached is Ceb to OG. He wanted to defend them as much as possible.

[dothebeats]

I beg to differ. Tundra's style of play does not match the aggression of PSG.LGD in mid game. As for Liquid, they do have a funky way of handling mid game to enable their cores before they make moves, while PSG.LGD is just constantly throwing them anything that they have to make them respond to those. The team who doesn't respond to the aggression of PSG.LGD wins the game, that's what I noticed.

Tundra is different on Riyadh because they don't have 33 on there roster which typically the play maker and making the setup for Tundra. The substitue player Daxak is not yet synchronized to Tundra that’s why they can’t have the same aggression when 33 is the iniator. I believe on full potential of Tundra as whole team because they can give space for Skitter if they have a good laning phase.

LGD is weak on best of 5 games because they have same game pattern and once you counter them, They don't have anything to do against it.

You could say that, but even with 33, Tundra is still, most of the times, hesitant to engage PSG.LGD's aggression even though they can get away of those engagements. They normally would be explosive when faced with chill opponents since they capitalize on the stagnant map to take the resources for themselves. But when faced with an even more aggressive team, they just play it slow and change their tempo.

Also, you're spot on with LGD's observation. They normally have a 2-3 strat planned for BO5 games that they usually unleash on rounds leading to the final bracket. OG and Kuroky's Team Liquid back then noticed this and capitalized mostly on using extremely out of meta heroes against LGD's line up.

[AbuBhakar]

I wonder if this is Ceb's response to TorontoTokyo when interviewed in Riyadh. Toronto said he wanted OG to win in the semis because he believe OG is weaker and LGD is harder to beat.

Ceb is back to show Toronto that OG is strong.

Far fetched but you know how attached is Ceb to OG. He wanted to defend them as much as possible.

Actually Torontotokyo is just stating the facts on that interview because LGD is really much tough opponent than OG that time but this will be different on Majors because OG has different game mode when they are competing to this tournament. Majors has best of 5 on finals that is very favorable to OG if they secure the finals spot. Ceb is known for being salty on chats but he never take seriously any TT on interview. I think Misha just missed the Visa application this time.

[Coin_trader]

Last 2 days to go for the start of Arlington Major guys. It’s confirmed that Ana will stand-in again on RNG since there pos1 Ghost failed to acquire Visa. Ceb and Ana will be playing once again on this major and probably will fight to each other. Many teams will play with incomplete line-up due to the Visa issue on US.

I will update the table for the stand-in status once the roster is finalized on all teams.

[AbuBhakar]

Last 2 days to go for the start of Arlington Major guys. It’s confirmed that Ana will stand-in again on RNG since there pos1 Ghost failed to acquire Visa. Ceb and Ana will be playing once again on this major and probably will fight to each other. Many teams will play with incomplete line-up due to the Visa issue on US.

I will update the table for the stand-in status once the roster is finalized on all teams.

I think Ana will be good this time because he still willing to play despite the very bad result on his stand in for team liquid. He usually quit if he didn’t want to play anymore like what he did on OG last time. He might be practicing hard right now just to master the current meta and to match the current strong pos1 player from different team. RNG will be the perfect team for him because they have already experienced fighting to each other since RNG roster is composed by old LGD member. Ana probably know how to work with this team.

[icalical]

This is not the first time several dota player (and probably other games athlete) can't get Visa to the U.S, and this visa issues seems happens a lot to team from SEA region. This is definitely has handicapped the Team. I think the Organizer or even Valve himself should help or even guarantee the Visa grant to every team, or they shouldn't have any event in the USA.


For the predicition, looking at how solid LGD performance on the latest Riyadh Master, I think they will still dominate this one, other team might be getting better like Liquid and OG, more than that I hope some other team like RNG and Outsiders could give something surprising in this tournament. For the SEA teams, Fnatic should be one of the SEA best hope but with this visa issue I am rooting for Talon to bring something good from SEA.