Rise of Streamers in Online Gambling

[Boristhecat]

There is already a big storm on Reddit and some official discord of those big streamers. They said clearly that they don't want to promote this stuff but they are being paid to well to not accept the deal. Per example , TrainwrecksTV is making a ton of money everyday he streams slots on Twitch and the sames goes for XQC when he streams but they became addicts without even notice this and they lost a lot of money from their own pocket as well. At this point I suppose none of them really wants to stop streaming or playing slots and also Twich policy cannot do anything against this. I mean ...they have hot tubs and all that but Twitch was designed by gamers for gamers.

I remember here in the gambling section there was a topic about whether casino advertising should be considered fraudulent, since streamers often play not for real money, but for advertising/fake ones. That is, if we see how a streamer plays with a $5,000 deposit and loses it (or wins something), it doesn’t really mean anything, since the casino just gives them this money for advertising streams. Therefore, it is naive to claim that some streamer became addicted or lost money from his own pocket - we have no evidence to be sure that this actually happened.

[rahmad2nd]

Well, I agree with you, maybe I am here who rarely watch streams on Twitch network especially for slot gambling, but I often see many streamers on other channel networks. 
there are many irregularities after I observed carefully, most of them are just doing promotions, I'm not saying that the streamers as a whole are endorsements of fiat based online casinos, maybe there are some streamers who use their personal money for fun and broadcast it on the network. 

I assume it's not much different than streamers who do it on other channels for example YT, I suspect as you said most of what they play is not real money.

[Jating]

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

These streamers serve as Brand Ambassadors or Slot Ambassadors, some of them are paid to stream so that viewers are interested in the games being played. I've watched some streaming videos with big wins, then I think every time I watch streaming videos. why every time they stream they always get a big win, the question keeps popping up in my mind, because luck isn't always on the same person's side, so I tried to play slots on the same site, but the results were very disappointing.
Manipulation can be done on the slot that is being played, because the system can be set at any time by the owner of the slot.

Although I don't have enough knowledge about slot technicalities but slot games is under3rd party provider which means casino has no control on the result except if they request for a special slot software that is rigged but most of the streamers that usually hit jackpot are burning huge amount of money to bet multiple times just to hit the jackpot. They have huge bankroll to bet many times compared to normal players that has limited bankroll.

Not all streamers is sponsored because many of them are just streaming for views or referral commission earnings from there viewers. Only big time streamers is sponsored while the rest is just getting profit on streaming alone.

But it's hard to differentiate who's who, who is playing real or fake money.

You just have to think about it, someone is playing with max bet of $100.00 living in the basement of his parents house. So if you do the numbers, $50k maybe in a week or two? $100k in a month? How can this live streamers can play with that huge money and all they streaming is the amount they won?

And then majority of them are playing in a second or even mid tier casino, yeah this is probably a setup but for now no one is going to admit it. Of course, it's really up to us to judge them.

[coin-investor]

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

I'd like to believe that there are many fake streamers trying to manipulate the results, they are being paid by casinos to make it look like its easy to win in the casino they advertise, they are not spending their own money, why would they if they want the casino to look good they will strike a deal on the casino that they are going to promote.
That is casino streaming is a very popular advertising preferred by casinos because the audiences see the streamer's winnings and they are enticed to play in the casino, hoping to get the same results.

[xSkylarx]

I don't think a real high-roller gambler would want to stream his gambling because if people knows he can afford to do that then he is putting his life in danger. These people who streams online gambling are sponsored by the casino to promote their platform and often done by small-time streamers. Streamers with a huge number of followers will usually decline these offers as it can ruin their reputation in the industry and it can cause conflict with their other sponsors.

[PX-Z]

I don't think a real high-roller gambler would want to stream his gambling because if people knows he can afford to do that then he is putting his life in danger.

Not be so paranoid about security, but I remember seeing some videos or some clip online doing this and it doesn't matter to them so you can say it's okay for them.

Mentioning about a high roller gambler doing streams, well, they have their own security measurements of course, rich people wont just walking on unsafe place alone. Or living in a simple house without any kind of securirty knowing his making huge profits and do high rolls.

I'd like to believe that there are many fake streamers trying to manipulate the results, they are being paid by casinos to make it look like its easy to win in the casino they advertise, they are not spending their own money, why would they if they want the casino to look good they will strike a deal on the casino that they are going to promote.
That is casino streaming is a very popular advertising preferred by casinos because the audiences see the streamer's winnings and they are enticed to play in the casino, hoping to get the same results.

Would you mind giving examples of this fake streams that manipulate results? Seems a huge claim to be exact. If it's an advertisements that saying you can win $xxxx when playing or gambling then it's bullshit and that's fake, gambling is not designed to make someone rich unless you're already rich. But if it's just a stream review to check and experience the website of course the gambling will provide the streamer's account balance to play for free, then i guess that's okay, as long there's no too good to be true offers there.

[Gozie51]

But if the streamer is also playing with the same system then it won't be a problem, but if the streamer is playing with a different system that has been designed to win then it will be dangerous. I realize that slot games are improving and many ordinary people keep failing, but they keep trying because they are influenced by video streamers who continue to win big numbers. Actually it wouldn't be a problem if they weren't distinguished, but if there was cheating in them then they were very dangerous to use.

Maybe manipulation is possible in streaming and this could make more meaning because it is about advertising and business. The casino wants more player and can only get that large following to play if they have showcase someone as streamer playing with them and winning big. Again getting celebrity who is real or not can influence the people to join the casino. During the time drake had a big win with stake.com I guess the company was in the public and that increased their followers too.

[virasisog]

But if the streamer is also playing with the same system then it won't be a problem, but if the streamer is playing with a different system that has been designed to win then it will be dangerous. I realize that slot games are improving and many ordinary people keep failing, but they keep trying because they are influenced by video streamers who continue to win big numbers. Actually it wouldn't be a problem if they weren't distinguished, but if there was cheating in them then they were very dangerous to use.

Maybe manipulation is possible in streaming and this could make more meaning because it is about advertising and business. The casino wants more player and can only get that large following to play if they have showcase someone as streamer playing with them and winning big. Again getting celebrity who is real or not can influence the people to join the casino. During the time drake had a big win with stake.com I guess the company was in the public and that increased their followers too.

If they're in a partnership or are being sponsored by a certain casino site, manipulation just to attract more players is possible. They could show a continuous winning record and big amount of winning prizes so more players will get interested on the site that they're promoting. It's fine to watch for entertainment but we better be careful because we might fall into the trap of those who are trying to gain more players.

[Despairo]

I don't think a real high-roller gambler would want to stream his gambling because if people knows he can afford to do that then he is putting his life in danger. These people who streams online gambling are sponsored by the casino to promote their platform and often done by small-time streamers. Streamers with a huge number of followers will usually decline these offers as it can ruin their reputation in the industry and it can cause conflict with their other sponsors.

Can't agree anymore, when someone see a gambler who bet with huge amount of money, they will know those bet amount is just like a peanut for him. Many beggars will start begging to give them some part of the gambler money, but sometime it can boost the reputation of the gambler since anyone will start following him and do same thing to get a share.

[goldkingcoiner]

I think the rise of streamers is happening everywhere. Not only in online gambling.

In this case, bookmakers and casinos have adapted to our times. Everything evolves and so does advertising. With the number of followers that some streamers have, this advertising is much more effective than traditional advertising, so they should get a good return on your investment by paying these streamers.

Exactly. With the rise of streamers in online gambling, the online gambling casinos have found a new way to advertise. This is very important for the casinos because their advertising options have become very limited due to all the government regulations. Especially those regarding not advertising to young adults and children.

But with streamers, its not really considered advertising, is it? So its kind of a loop-hole.

Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the future brings us. Hopefully we won't see 10 year olds stealing their parents money just to satisfy their newfound gambling habit.

[molsewid]

Exactly. With the rise of streamers in online gambling, the online gambling casinos have found a new way to advertise. This is very important for the casinos because their advertising options have become very limited due to all the government regulations. Especially those regarding not advertising to young adults and children.

But with streamers, its not really considered advertising, is it? So its kind of a loop-hole.

Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the future brings us. Hopefully we won't see 10 year olds stealing their parents money just to satisfy their newfound gambling habit.

That's the bad side of it, they can really get new members that will join their casino or that gambling site but they cannot monitor if their players are in the legal age, except if they want to implement KYC. I also saw some streamers in fb promoting some online casino/online betting website  with "licensed to operate by the government *, we can say that their website is legal yes that's correct, but what I am concern is Younger age who follows they can be curious about that ads, so sometimes they will try to make a bet because the steamer they are following is promoting that website.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Streamers contributes a lot on the increase of popularity of online gambling.

Well, not just in online gambling alone, streamers contributed greatly to the popularity of what ever they are streaming about.
I remember those days when I depended majorly on YouTubers to decide which crypto coin to invest it, that is, I buy any coin mentioned by the youtubers I follow and watch their streams.
It is majorly the same thing in gambling, after watching a stream and saw how the host won the bet or gamble, it is not out of place to feel anxious to play and try to win like you just watched the streamer do, but be careful, most of those winnings you see happen in a live stream are all staged, that is they are fake, if you need to know how this is done, give me green light, and I will explain further.

[qwertyup23]

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Many famous Casino is now doing partnership on different streamers. So in conclusion, Streamers contributes a lot on the increase of popularity of online gambling.

Chart Source: Twitchtracker.com

With the effects of pandemic lingering, most players have shifted their interests in online gambling rather than physical gambling. This is also the reason on why anything related with doing something online is more famous nowadays. Though this may be the case, this can potentially increase the number of users and underage players attempting to do online gambling.

Twitch.tv is considered one of the biggest streaming websites globally. A person can visit the webpage at any age, thereby increasing the risks of underage teenagers being swallowed by their curiosity to try doing online gambling. I hope that Twitch balances the interests of these streamers and the welfare of these teenagers of the risk suffering from addiction.

[abel1337]

Exactly. With the rise of streamers in online gambling, the online gambling casinos have found a new way to advertise. This is very important for the casinos because their advertising options have become very limited due to all the government regulations. Especially those regarding not advertising to young adults and children.

But with streamers, its not really considered advertising, is it? So its kind of a loop-hole.

Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the future brings us. Hopefully we won't see 10 year olds stealing their parents money just to satisfy their newfound gambling habit.

That's the bad side of it, they can really get new members that will join their casino or that gambling site but they cannot monitor if their players are in the legal age, except if they want to implement KYC. I also saw some streamers in fb promoting some online casino/online betting website  with "licensed to operate by the government *, we can say that their website is legal yes that's correct, but what I am concern is Younger age who follows they can be curious about that ads, so sometimes they will try to make a bet because the steamer they are following is promoting that website.

Anonymity is one of the basic characteristic of a crypto casino and it's hard for casino to know if their players are minor or not unless they do KYC. A steamer can't do anything if an underage really want's to play on a crypto casino. The streamer can only tell his underage audience to don't play on gambling casino because it's for adults only. But remember it's not easy for kids to acquire crypto right, It's possible that they can get some but it would be hard on them especially if they are just hooked in cryptocurrency just because of crypto casino.

[goldkingcoiner]

Exactly. With the rise of streamers in online gambling, the online gambling casinos have found a new way to advertise. This is very important for the casinos because their advertising options have become very limited due to all the government regulations. Especially those regarding not advertising to young adults and children.

But with streamers, its not really considered advertising, is it? So its kind of a loop-hole.

Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the future brings us. Hopefully we won't see 10 year olds stealing their parents money just to satisfy their newfound gambling habit.

That's the bad side of it, they can really get new members that will join their casino or that gambling site but they cannot monitor if their players are in the legal age, except if they want to implement KYC. I also saw some streamers in fb promoting some online casino/online betting website  with "licensed to operate by the government *, we can say that their website is legal yes that's correct, but what I am concern is Younger age who follows they can be curious about that ads, so sometimes they will try to make a bet because the steamer they are following is promoting that website.

Anonymity is one of the basic characteristic of a crypto casino and it's hard for casino to know if their players are minor or not unless they do KYC. A steamer can't do anything if an underage really want's to play on a crypto casino. The streamer can only tell his underage audience to don't play on gambling casino because it's for adults only. But remember it's not easy for kids to acquire crypto right, It's possible that they can get some but it would be hard on them especially if they are just hooked in cryptocurrency just because of crypto casino.

I would have to disagree with you on that point. Kids can easily get crypto if they want. Especially if their parents have crypto already. Or an old traditional credit card. Heck, they could even have it be as easy as stealing a few dollars our of mom's purse.

Also, most crypto casinos which operate by laws set in place by their government. Usually this includes KYC but this is not always the case. We know there are unchecked crypto casinos being run by anonymous people in lands without strict KYC laws.

We should take it a bit more seriously, otherwise this new trend can have a bad effect on kids.

[milewilda]

Exactly. With the rise of streamers in online gambling, the online gambling casinos have found a new way to advertise. This is very important for the casinos because their advertising options have become very limited due to all the government regulations. Especially those regarding not advertising to young adults and children.

But with streamers, its not really considered advertising, is it? So its kind of a loop-hole.

Whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, I guess we will just have to wait and see what the future brings us. Hopefully we won't see 10 year olds stealing their parents money just to satisfy their newfound gambling habit.

That's the bad side of it, they can really get new members that will join their casino or that gambling site but they cannot monitor if their players are in the legal age, except if they want to implement KYC. I also saw some streamers in fb promoting some online casino/online betting website  with "licensed to operate by the government *, we can say that their website is legal yes that's correct, but what I am concern is Younger age who follows they can be curious about that ads, so sometimes they will try to make a bet because the steamer they are following is promoting that website.

Cant really be avoided considering that people could definitely see on whats been streamed and since younger generations are really that having exposure on social media then it wouldnt be surprising
that they would really be making themselves to be that curious on what it is and would really be likely that they would be trying it out and this is one of the con's on having these streams.
Streamers wont really care out about their audiences as long they are getting paid on running those streams then minding about being ethical or not wouldnt really be their priority.
Therefore, this would be entirely be depending on someones decision and of course parenting of these children or young minds would also make out some effect.

[Mame89]

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

I'd like to believe that there are many fake streamers trying to manipulate the results, they are being paid by casinos to make it look like its easy to win in the casino they advertise, they are not spending their own money, why would they if they want the casino to look good they will strike a deal on the casino that they are going to promote.
That is casino streaming is a very popular advertising preferred by casinos because the audiences see the streamer's winnings and they are enticed to play in the casino, hoping to get the same results.

in my country there is a gambling casino streamer. In the storyline, this famous streamer makes a video between the casino owners having a discussion who is reluctant to make another gambling ad/renewal of the contract. because he feels guilty for making an advertising video that makes his followers/viewers mentally damaged excessively. so the streamers are given an account from the casino to play, the account has been set from the founder's side which makes the streamers win continuously in the large amount they get. I think soccer betting or sports betting can be said to be more effective

[nakamura12]

I don't really care to watch streamers streaming slot games from a casino or a gambling site but I am surprised that slots are in the top list. My thoughts is because casinos want to make their casino be known to many using social media platforms and even partnering up with streamers then both side can achieve their goal where the streamers earn and the casino is advertised. It's a win-win situation for both party. It's business after all.

[Mahanton]

On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.

I'd like to believe that there are many fake streamers trying to manipulate the results, they are being paid by casinos to make it look like its easy to win in the casino they advertise, they are not spending their own money, why would they if they want the casino to look good they will strike a deal on the casino that they are going to promote.
That is casino streaming is a very popular advertising preferred by casinos because the audiences see the streamer's winnings and they are enticed to play in the casino, hoping to get the same results.

in my country there is a gambling casino streamer. In the storyline, this famous streamer makes a video between the casino owners having a discussion who is reluctant to make another gambling ad/renewal of the contract. because he feels guilty for making an advertising video that makes his followers/viewers mentally damaged excessively. so the streamers are given an account from the casino to play, the account has been set from the founder's side which makes the streamers win continuously in the large amount they get. I think soccer betting or sports betting can be said to be more effective

You wont really be seeing those streams who do involved on sports betting considering that results are too long to wait for viewers to look upon thats why its quite irrelevant and if you do
look around then most streamers would really be showing off casino related games which its really normal for them to advertise or stream out.I agree on whats been said above
that these streamers wont care on whose gonna see their stream as long they had made their job and  making money or income with it then ethical aspect or talks would be surely ignored.
Even myself be putting up on a situation where i do earn good money via streaming then i wouldnt care at all.

[justdimin]

There are actually quite a few streamers playing for their own money, but as my marketing experience. And I can also tell you that some streamers will have sponsors from online casino websites to invite them to play and make videos with free credits, and indirectly advertise it to attract subscribers and I am also happy to see it and indeed it will make people want to do it.

Maybe there are streamers which are sponsored and then after they have done their jobs, they will switch on their main account and gamble for real and maybe they have another streaming account only to stream their real game. While there are also streamers which don't have any sponsorship and only play using their own money.

It can be noticeable because their bankroll is not that big enough and also they are more careful with their moves. Seeing sponsored streamers play can entertain us not only because they are betting with bigger amounts and playing on a high risks games but also because of their awesome commentaries.