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Some of these people are legitimately making money from streaming without being affiliated with the casino. This business has a little more shady area because some streamers get paid by the casino to play with their money and they don't admit it at the stream, so that people think they're watching a real game but in reality the streamer is acting like it's a big deal and he's betting a lot of money but he can't lose anything. Of course this isn't any different from all those TV ads where they edit the model's face or hair to show they look better after using some cream or shampoo. All ads are lies and twitch streaming is just another form of an ad.
Right, but if you are smart enough, this streamers can make more money by affiliating their face with the casinos. And this is the business model that we have seen very effective. Even though casinos are willing to take sponsors from top athletes, what's more with a casino that has starting his name and wanted to be known. As for the money, we all have been speculated that it's either fake money or it directly comes from their affiliated casinos so that betting max won't be a problem and usually if you have huge bet the returns will be big as well. I have talked about this for gaming, I will say it for the gambling as well. Watching streamers is not about what they are streaming at all, sure that's a very important part of it if you are there to watch the game or gambling, but most people who are long term do not go there for that. I have seen people who stream while chat was talking about something totally irrelevant. Because that's the type of familiarity you create with your chat when you are a streamer, you could be playing latest Fifa while they are talking about one of them getting A on math class for all they care, it's just a group of friends that meet for the same streamer whenever he is on air. Gambling streamers are the same, just because you watch it, doesn't mean you watch it for that.
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August 05, 2022, 01:46:53 PM |
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But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema
Don't blame the advertisers or streamers for that. The internet is widely open to everyone. Aside from that, most children are techy nowadays and even though they will be prohibited to do gambling, they will encounter that while they grow. And sometimes, it's not the content that streamers are being watched but the popularity as I'm sure streamers are not focusing on the same content. That's a wise thought and true because the internet is available to anyone who wants to explore all sorts of things, including gambling. We have to pay attention to the children who are in this day and age because they seem to understand the internet better than their parents so they can know how to access things they shouldn't know. If we as parents can tell them how to access the internet properly, they will not use it for unnecessary things and will not be influenced by streamers trying to provide their content. In line with what you are saying, the kids should be guarded well as we all know that the influence of internet is really wide and without any doubt streamers are everywhere, once the kids gain interest to whatever kind of videos being hypes the curiosity about them can lead them to gambling, it's still the parents responsibilities to keep their kids away from this kind of exposures. Make sure that you are aware of what your kids are visiting online and what they are doing in each time they are in front of the internet.
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August 05, 2022, 01:54:00 PM |
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In line with what you are saying, the kids should be guarded well as we all know that the influence of internet is really wide and without any doubt streamers are everywhere, once the kids gain interest to whatever kind of videos being hypes the curiosity about them can lead them to gambling, it's still the parents responsibilities to keep their kids away from this kind of exposures.
Make sure that you are aware of what your kids are visiting online and what they are doing in each time they are in front of the internet.
I greatly agree, with the rise of streamers, gambling channels are everywhere, youtube, TikTok, twitch, Facebook etc. If we can't make them avoid watching the gambling channel, at least we can explain to them things they need to know about gambling, its pros, and cons, and emphasize the cons. I always believe that exposure and proper awareness about gambling are better than avoiding them because kids will at least have more knowledge about gambling this way.
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That's how streamers do their business with their viewers in terms of promoting something since they want to get a best result for theirselves so we need to be more smart upon checking on what they are saying since most provably they are just trying lure us so that they can get tons of money for getting more people to register on their provided referral links.
They are getting tons of money but from those viewers who are watching them and from the pocket of the casino house that they are promoting, it's true that we needed to be more wise following those streamers who intentionally luring us to visit the site and start playing the game, remember that in gambling its more on luck base and there's no proven strategy that will be exposed to suck the house funds. One of the reason why I don't mostly watch any random streamers promoting some casino especially when they are only playing on 1 platform only since mostly they are promoter of that casino and we cannot get quality substance on their contents. People should know that luck based games really will matter depends on your luck to win a small or big amount of money.
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August 05, 2022, 05:38:23 PM |
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Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.
That's easy to know that if that small streamer was actually gambling with his real money while big streamer may not even use 1 cents to gambling. It's often to me to see the small streamers are always feeling broken while they were loosing their money. For them 250 USD is quite large as they can use it to buy something for their live. I know that big streamers were only selling their gimmick. Getting bunch of refferal has become their main target to get bunch of money from the platforms. If someone losing bunch of money and he must feel desperate with it. Watched another stream today. The streamer lost 500k rubles (about 9,000 dollars) - for my country this is a lot of money. Again, everything was clear right away - even in the broadcast chat, many wrote that the streamer plays completely without emotions, as if for fake money. I can say that before I was prejudiced about slots, now with disgust - from the outside it looks so stupid ... Just press the button and watch your balance go to zero.
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August 05, 2022, 05:55:16 PM |
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I will agree though, specially those streamers that shows very huge win, in the millions of dollars that maybe some will go and try it for themselves and see how their luck will be.
On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.
Most likely, streamers are there to promote certain casino as it’s one effective way to attract new and old players to play. If they advertise such big wins made by some lucky players, that will eventually attract players to gamble and spend more money, so it’s certainly a win win scenario for the casino itself. Unless if the streamer is only paid to rigged results, I guess that won’t remain effective in the long run.
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If they advertise it, the obvious is there and they're doing it for the sake of the payment that they've got to introduce and give exposure to that casino. You'll see them telling that they're encouraging people to gamble there because that's how it should work because that's the main reason on why they get paid and why they're playing there.
Typical job right? Its normal that they would really be doing things on whats been asked and mandated and as showing off their good performance or results then they would be trying out their best on hooking up new players to the platform or site and does really make that payment to be worth and this is also some good portfolio building too which would really be helpful for their future projects to get if they do have that good record and recommendations. The only thing here is that people should be wise and be wary of their decisions that had been made. The decision is free for everyone of us and those that follow these streamers. They're aware about those sponsorships and they're also given that disclaimer that if they're going to gamble, they should do it only with the amount that they afford to lose. The others won't listen to that sound advice but those that are know it and yet not following it, they just accept whatever outcome they get as they gamble. When you are complete noob or doesnt really have experience on things specially on gambling field then you wont really be that too sensitive about other things like sponsorship or those streamers had been funded by the company even though those streamers do really give out some warning into their viewers but nothing beats out on the influence that they could give while they are playing which it would really be that normal that they would really be still playing or making deposits in the end of the day except into those people who are experienced and able to see something odd or different on early basis.
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August 05, 2022, 10:15:23 PM |
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Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.
That's easy to know that if that small streamer was actually gambling with his real money while big streamer may not even use 1 cents to gambling. It's often to me to see the small streamers are always feeling broken while they were loosing their money. For them 250 USD is quite large as they can use it to buy something for their live. I know that big streamers were only selling their gimmick. Getting bunch of refferal has become their main target to get bunch of money from the platforms. If someone losing bunch of money and he must feel desperate with it. Watched another stream today. The streamer lost 500k rubles (about 9,000 dollars) - for my country this is a lot of money. Again, everything was clear right away - even in the broadcast chat, many wrote that the streamer plays completely without emotions, as if for fake money. I can say that before I was prejudiced about slots, now with disgust - from the outside it looks so stupid ... Just press the button and watch your balance go to zero. That's why we call slots a luck base games because you don't need to have anything as you have said, just press the button (depending on how much you want to bet) and see how your luck goes. I will assume that the streamer was putting max beat that's why in matter of minutes he lost that huge amount. And yes, maybe the comments is just about right, as you have said, that money is already a huge amount in your country and this guy just play it like nothing and maybe it was fake money after all just to promote the casino itself.
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August 05, 2022, 10:18:16 PM |
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Watched another stream today. The streamer lost 500k rubles (about 9,000 dollars) - for my country this is a lot of money. Again, everything was clear right away - even in the broadcast chat, many wrote that the streamer plays completely without emotions, as if for fake money. I can say that before I was prejudiced about slots, now with disgust - from the outside it looks so stupid ... Just press the button and watch your balance go to zero.
For that gambler most probably its entertaining to play the slots and this is his way of gambling, we don't know if its the real money of that streamer or just another promotion about the site. Many are losing big money in slot machines because its easy to play and you just let your luck hit you so you can win. This might not be a good game to some gamblers, but we all have our own favorite games and that streamer might really love the slot games. Streamer are getting into crypto gambling, either to promote a site or they just really want to gamble.
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August 05, 2022, 10:25:16 PM |
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Yesterday, when I was already going to bed, I decided to watch a couple of gambling streams (just after this thread). Those streams that were conducted by popular streamers, and where they lost several thousand dollars, were pretty boring - they did not show any emotions. But then I watched a stream of one not very popular streamer (he had about 150 viewers) and he looked really broken after he lost about 250 dollars. So, I believe more and more that top streamers play for fake money and their streams are nothing more than casino advertisements.
That's easy to know that if that small streamer was actually gambling with his real money while big streamer may not even use 1 cents to gambling. It's often to me to see the small streamers are always feeling broken while they were loosing their money. For them 250 USD is quite large as they can use it to buy something for their live. I know that big streamers were only selling their gimmick. Getting bunch of refferal has become their main target to get bunch of money from the platforms. If someone losing bunch of money and he must feel desperate with it. Yeah, perhaps the emotions of the individual who lost $250 is real because he is playing with real money, maybe it's a hard earn and seeing him losing it and for everyone to see is devastating experience for him. But who knows, maybe one day this person will become big streamers as well. So maybe that is ok for him to lost this small money. And later when he grow his subs and followers, some casinos will look for him make him a offer as a sponsor and give him play money, or whatever offers the casino will have for him.
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August 05, 2022, 10:30:16 PM |
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I will agree though, specially those streamers that shows very huge win, in the millions of dollars that maybe some will go and try it for themselves and see how their luck will be.
On the other hand this streamers though could be paid so obviously, the results might be rigged so that those watching are going to be attracted. So it's a win-win for this streamers and the casinos or games that they are promoting.
Most likely, streamers are there to promote certain casino as it’s one effective way to attract new and old players to play. If they advertise such big wins made by some lucky players, that will eventually attract players to gamble and spend more money, so it’s certainly a win win scenario for the casino itself. Unless if the streamer is only paid to rigged results, I guess that won’t remain effective in the long run. Streamers can't rigged the results themselves, the casino itself will have to be involved to be able to pull that one off. But most likely as others have said, they are playing with fake money, so that they can continue to play for hours and stream it and mentioned the casino's name as a promotions. And sooner or later with that fake money, he or she might be lucky and hit the bonus and probably hit a massive win or close to a jackpot.
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August 05, 2022, 10:33:51 PM |
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Watched another stream today. The streamer lost 500k rubles (about 9,000 dollars) - for my country this is a lot of money. Again, everything was clear right away - even in the broadcast chat, many wrote that the streamer plays completely without emotions, as if for fake money. I can say that before I was prejudiced about slots, now with disgust - from the outside it looks so stupid ... Just press the button and watch your balance go to zero.
For that gambler most probably its entertaining to play the slots and this is his way of gambling, we don't know if its the real money of that streamer or just another promotion about the site. Many are losing big money in slot machines because its easy to play and you just let your luck hit you so you can win. This might not be a good game to some gamblers, but we all have our own favorite games and that streamer might really love the slot games. Streamer are getting into crypto gambling, either to promote a site or they just really want to gamble. This slot everybody is talking of, have you guys see any person about to play a slot game and win the game because many people that is outside the world don't know what is a slot game. I asked a friend of mine who is a gambler popularly known as promise Thankgod, of the benefit of slot game but you was unable to explain better what slot game is all about so playing gambling from what I understand he says something of chance to win a win gambling
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Streamers can't rigged the results themselves, the casino itself will have to be involved to be able to pull that one off. But most likely as others have said, they are playing with fake money, so that they can continue to play for hours and stream it and mentioned the casino's name as a promotions. And sooner or later with that fake money, he or she might be lucky and hit the bonus and probably hit a massive win or close to a jackpot.
I don't think streamers are playing with fake money. Because if it is fake money then a demo can be seen on the stream. I believe it is sponsored money. they are betting with real money but it is sponsored so it isn't their own money so they don't care if they lose all those huge amounts but of course, they wanted to win because of the promised commissions on those winnings. And streamer often tells the viewer that it was sponsored money either by some rich people or by the casino itself.
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August 05, 2022, 11:09:26 PM |
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Streamers can't rigged the results themselves, the casino itself will have to be involved to be able to pull that one off. But most likely as others have said, they are playing with fake money, so that they can continue to play for hours and stream it and mentioned the casino's name as a promotions. And sooner or later with that fake money, he or she might be lucky and hit the bonus and probably hit a massive win or close to a jackpot.
Playing with fake money or not. Let's take it this way. There are streamers that really have been hired to play on the casino they're showing to their audience. But there are the other streamers too that are genuinely playing on a casino that they've just chosen to gamble. And just for the sake of the viewership, the casino can give the streamer actual balance to play with because they want genuine reaction and gambling experience to be shown. That's why I don't think they'll be playing with fake money even if they're hired, so, it's an actual money or balance that has been given to them.
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August 06, 2022, 12:48:12 AM |
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Streamers can't rigged the results themselves, the casino itself will have to be involved to be able to pull that one off. But most likely as others have said, they are playing with fake money, so that they can continue to play for hours and stream it and mentioned the casino's name as a promotions. And sooner or later with that fake money, he or she might be lucky and hit the bonus and probably hit a massive win or close to a jackpot.
I don't think streamers are playing with fake money. Because if it is fake money then a demo can be seen on the stream. I believe it is sponsored money. they are betting with real money but it is sponsored so it isn't their own money so they don't care if they lose all those huge amounts but of course, they wanted to win because of the promised commissions on those winnings. And streamer often tells the viewer that it was sponsored money either by some rich people or by the casino itself. Yes, the money could come from the casino itself and feed to the players so that they can continue to play. And maybe it was credited right away to their accounts before they start to stream because all of them when they started streaming didn't show their initial deposits so that where maybe the trick lies. And then you can see at the start that they have like thousands of dollars already as a bankroll and then just pushes the max button and starts to play.
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August 06, 2022, 02:21:28 AM |
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But from this, we may also see how children are also increasing in playing slots. This is dilema
Don't blame the advertisers or streamers for that. The internet is widely open to everyone. Aside from that, most children are techy nowadays and even though they will be prohibited to do gambling, they will encounter that while they grow. And sometimes, it's not the content that streamers are being watched but the popularity as I'm sure streamers are not focusing on the same content. That's a wise thought and true because the internet is available to anyone who wants to explore all sorts of things, including gambling. We have to pay attention to the children who are in this day and age because they seem to understand the internet better than their parents so they can know how to access things they shouldn't know. If we as parents can tell them how to access the internet properly, they will not use it for unnecessary things and will not be influenced by streamers trying to provide their content. In line with what you are saying, the kids should be guarded well as we all know that the influence of internet is really wide and without any doubt streamers are everywhere, once the kids gain interest to whatever kind of videos being hypes the curiosity about them can lead them to gambling, it's still the parents responsibilities to keep their kids away from this kind of exposures. Make sure that you are aware of what your kids are visiting online and what they are doing in each time they are in front of the internet. Streamers are not only making themselves money but this is another way of promoting gambling. underage people or kids can easily be influenced by these streamers. Seeing them making easy money, kids can develop an interest in gambling which may lead to financial loss as gambling is not a money making game. No streamer will tell you that gambling is a risky business, rather they will just force everyone to play gamble at a certain site as this is their job/mission.
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I don't think streamers are playing with fake money. Because if it is fake money then a demo can be seen on the stream. I believe it is sponsored money. they are betting with real money but it is sponsored so it isn't their own money so they don't care if they lose all those huge amounts but of course, they wanted to win because of the promised commissions on those winnings.
Obviously, there is no such case that streamers are using fake money. How can they even do that or make it possible to use fake money or credits? And it's not always as if they are using sponsored money as not all streamers are affiliated with the site. They are just making it as content without a direct affiliation on the site and that's the usual thing happening in the streaming world. Generally, the money is either own money or sponsored. We can even determine where the money used came from based on the popularity and fame of the streamers. Besides, streamers who are affiliated with the gambling site are not that secret.
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August 06, 2022, 10:58:10 AM |
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Streamers are not only making themselves money but this is another way of promoting gambling. underage people or kids can easily be influenced by these streamers. Seeing them making easy money, kids can develop an interest in gambling which may lead to financial loss as gambling is not a money making game. No streamer will tell you that gambling is a risky business, rather they will just force everyone to play gamble at a certain site as this is their job/mission.
Not a hard to take, having a young mind makes them thinks that the process can be done on their end, it's the dangerous thing if you are a parent not knowing what your kids are doing online, streamers can easily pollute them up by showing how easy to win using the platform that they are promoting and adding to that, those promotions and perks that also attracts people to engage and visit the site, Streamers influenced is well being used by the casino owners to bring more gamblers to their site, the very reason why they are willing to pay a decent amount just to have a good streamer to stream the game and the site itself.
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August 06, 2022, 11:07:22 AM |
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I don't think streamers are playing with fake money. Because if it is fake money then a demo can be seen on the stream. I believe it is sponsored money. they are betting with real money but it is sponsored so it isn't their own money so they don't care if they lose all those huge amounts but of course, they wanted to win because of the promised commissions on those winnings.
Obviously, there is no such case that streamers are using fake money. How can they even do that or make it possible to use fake money or credits? Most provably the casino they promote give them free credits or account to use upon their stream time so that they can make there game plays legitimate so that many people could also feel the intensity of the game what the streamers had at that time and this could rise curiosity. This can easily be set up by them since for sure no streamers will bust their huge amount of money for thousands of views only since for sure this will not give them profits.
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I don't think streamers are playing with fake money. Because if it is fake money then a demo can be seen on the stream. I believe it is sponsored money. they are betting with real money but it is sponsored so it isn't their own money so they don't care if they lose all those huge amounts but of course, they wanted to win because of the promised commissions on those winnings.
Obviously, there is no such case that streamers are using fake money. How can they even do that or make it possible to use fake money or credits? Most provably the casino they promote give them free credits or account to use upon their stream time so that they can make there game plays legitimate so that many people could also feel the intensity of the game what the streamers had at that time and this could rise curiosity. This can easily be set up by them since for sure no streamers will bust their huge amount of money for thousands of views only since for sure this will not give them profits. Of course, they are in exchange for shilling their casino, not all streamers are good at gambling and if they are promoting casinos and gambling in their channel they should show that they are winning, to the point that they are manipulating their broadcast, I am not a big fan of streamers there are a lot of streamers in the past that I followed about investing in altcoins they are good at shilling but not good at predicting the future of the project that they are shilling and I lose a lot following their advice and shills, I just knew that it is the same case here in gambling.
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