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August 11, 2022, 05:48:52 PM
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I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.
is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obviously fake money is used by him. You can imagine how much he was losing when gambling with such money.

That could be fake because he's also promoting the site. I guess that's another strategy for that streamer to attract more players. He could also say that he's been continuously winning over the house to impress his viewers and to build up a good impression of the site. Their winnings as well as their records of bets are unreliable.

all can be manipulated as if they always win and get a lot of profit. even though it's just a setting for promotional purposes, because some streamers are indeed one of the ambassadors of a gambling product. can be seen from some of the ads that continue to run. Any betting records are unreliable, I don't think the streamer himself has ever played for real money on a promoted gambling site. he only gets paid for the promotions he does.

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August 11, 2022, 06:29:20 PM
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I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.
is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obviously fake money is used by him. You can imagine how much he was losing when gambling with such money.

That could be fake because he's also promoting the site. I guess that's another strategy for that streamer to attract more players. He could also say that he's been continuously winning over the house to impress his viewers and to build up a good impression of the site. Their winnings as well as their records of bets are unreliable.

all can be manipulated as if they always win and get a lot of profit. even though it's just a setting for promotional purposes, because some streamers are indeed one of the ambassadors of a gambling product. can be seen from some of the ads that continue to run. Any betting records are unreliable, I don't think the streamer himself has ever played for real money on a promoted gambling site. he only gets paid for the promotions he does.

It's hard to tell but maybe there are some who also playing with their own money but most of them are pure advertisement and the amount that they using is also comes from the house itself. They are just promoting to bing traffics and to have more views with their channels. Streamers are earning from a different niche that they've used, and they are known to have advertisers, including those big gambling businesses who wanted to have more clients to use their platforms.

And mostly for those new/beginners from this business, they need to use streamers to attract gamers to visit their site and start using their services.

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August 11, 2022, 07:59:37 PM
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The best way to confirm any claims 'I won x amount of money in betting' is to get his tax and income report. If he indeed won $686 million worth of bets, it can be easily cross-checked. I don't know much about this xQc streamer but from a google search, he's a Canadian and they do not have to pay taxes on gambling winnings. This might be hard for you to verify his claim after all.
In that case, It's hard to verify about the winnings he declared. Though it's possible since he said that he has a gambling addiction according to the article I read. Gambling streams is now starting to get popular on twitch and there are some viewers who are telling twitch to stop gambling streams, as for the reason I don't know but maybe it's about the possible gambling influence that this streamers can do on his viewers especially on underaged viewers.
I think tax and income report are a personal matter already and won't be possible to shown in public but on some sites like stake for example, it's possible to request a detailed statistic or report about your gambling activities.

I don't know if what gambling site that streamer play but he can try to request on the site where he play and that's the one he can show to his viewer. Maybe on some gambling sites, your stats are already recorded on your profile. That can work too. He is a streamer so it's not shocking that he can bet an amount like that because the money that he was using was not from his own pocket anyway.
On the article I've read, It's shown xqc is streaming his winnings and the casino he is playing is stake. He voluntarily showed in wager history on his stream after he read an article about his gambling activities. I don't know what game he is playing but his bets number are 600k+ so I guess it's a fast paced game like dice. For me it's nice to see that he is being transparent to his viewers about his gambling records and activities.
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August 11, 2022, 10:33:05 PM
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I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.
is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obvious a fake money that being used by him. You can imagine how much he was loosing when gambling with such money.

Oftentimes, the money is sponsored but obviously, it is not fake.  Over the long period of streaming and getting a commission on the sponsored money, I think he will be able to have a hundred million bankrolls.  Remember, as they stream, they got referrals.  There is a possibility that they get whales as a referral and be able to get huge money from affiliate commissions.
About xQc winning, I believe, I read that it is from his own money.
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August 11, 2022, 10:39:53 PM
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I saw on the news that the xQc streamer made $686 million worth of bets in three months, but I can not find a reliable source to confirm this news. Have you heard anything about it? If this is true, then in my opinion this is a clear disrespect for his viewers, since it is obvious that all the money from this amount is fake - he clearly could not wage such a huge amount.
is it overall bet from him? I didn't even think if all of money were real money. I don't even believe if a streamer has hundreds millions dollars to be used to bet in the gambling platform. It's obvious a fake money that being used by him. You can imagine how much he was loosing when gambling with such money.

Oftentimes, the money is sponsored but obviously, it is not fake.  Over the long period of streaming and getting a commission on the sponsored money, I think he will be able to have a hundred million bankrolls.  Remember, as they stream, they got referrals.  There is a possibility that they get whales as a referral and be able to get huge money from affiliate commissions.
About xQc winning, I believe, I read that it is from his own money.

Most of the time whales registered on the link provided on the streamers, so I will not get surprised if streamers earning a lot of fortune by hyping up a casino. And for sure all of credits given will drained so there are times that streamers will use their own money just to make their show more consistent and more people will sign up to their referral links shown every videos they created.

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August 11, 2022, 10:46:03 PM
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all can be manipulated as if they always win and get a lot of profit. even though it's just a setting for promotional purposes, because some streamers are indeed one of the ambassadors of a gambling product. can be seen from some of the ads that continue to run. Any betting records are unreliable, I don't think the streamer himself has ever played for real money on a promoted gambling site. he only gets paid for the promotions he does.
Yes, everything can be manipulated, including the money used by the streamer because as a promoter promoting that casino, he may get a bonus or extra money for playing so he can show his followers to play with him. This strategy sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't work depending on who is watching the video and if the viewers are people who are not affected by such videos, he will of course, just skip it and will not follow it. I guess there may also be streamers who actually use real money on gambling sites, but we'll never know the truth.

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August 11, 2022, 10:55:32 PM
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all can be manipulated as if they always win and get a lot of profit. even though it's just a setting for promotional purposes, because some streamers are indeed one of the ambassadors of a gambling product. can be seen from some of the ads that continue to run. Any betting records are unreliable, I don't think the streamer himself has ever played for real money on a promoted gambling site. he only gets paid for the promotions he does.
Yes, everything can be manipulated, including the money used by the streamer because as a promoter promoting that casino, he may get a bonus or extra money for playing so he can show his followers to play with him. This strategy sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't work depending on who is watching the video and if the viewers are people who are not affected by such videos, he will of course, just skip it and will not follow it. I guess there may also be streamers who actually use real money on gambling sites, but we'll never know the truth.
Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.

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August 11, 2022, 11:30:59 PM
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because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.

Disagree. For that gambling content, they are putting some investments too because their content is real-user experienced.

And take note that not all streamers are mostly affiliated with the sites. If a streamer wants to make an attempt to be partnered with a gambling site, they need to have a good number of followers and really a popular one to be considered. That was a hard thing to do.

That's why to be noticed by the site they are promoting, they really need to put an investment in that. To be a popular streamer, they need to spend money.

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August 11, 2022, 11:38:29 PM
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Oftentimes, the money is sponsored but obviously, it is not fake.  Over the long period of streaming and getting a commission on the sponsored money, I think he will be able to have a hundred million bankrolls.  Remember, as they stream, they got referrals.  There is a possibility that they get whales as a referral and be able to get huge money from affiliate commissions.
About xQc winning, I believe, I read that it is from his own money.
Of course, behind the streaming, there must be interest. Streamers will also get income from the videos they watch. In addition, many of them are paid for the promotion of certain platforms. And this will also have an impact on the platform to be more famous and attract new members to use the platform. Moreover, streamers are usually familiar with the world of promotion through videos and also their viewers, so it will be easier for them to attract new users. As long as the platform is official and not a scam, then it's fine. the important thing is not to promise absolute victory for its users or commit fraud.
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Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.

That was too much for me. I think knowing the truth is just a waste of time. That's not even beneficial to us.

As long as the streamer is showing good content, then people will really watch it. How come it becomes a big deal if they are using sponsored money or not? What it will bring to us if we know where the money will come from?

As long as the site they are showing in the content is reputable, we don't need to be bothered if these streamers are using their own money or not.

It will just add another problem to your mind. That's not a necessary thing to think of. That's a non-sense issue.
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August 12, 2022, 03:42:45 AM
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Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.
If the casino sponsors the streamer, they can place big bets because the streamer doesn't think about where the money is coming from. And that's an advantage for the streamer because he benefits from what he does. Apart from earning money from the casino, he also has the opportunity to get additional followers who will become his referrals so that he will get additional income from them. And this is what triggers many streamers to appear this year because they can get a lot of extra income.

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Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.
If the casino sponsors the streamer, they can place big bets because the streamer doesn't think about where the money is coming from. And that's an advantage for the streamer because he benefits from what he does. Apart from earning money from the casino, he also has the opportunity to get additional followers who will become his referrals so that he will get additional income from them. And this is what triggers many streamers to appear this year because they can get a lot of extra income.
It is very likely that those streamers are receiving money from the casinos in order to create those videos and create a win-win situation for both of them, the casino is able to promote itself in such a way that many people do not really think of the streaming they are watching as a form of advertising, and the streamer not only earns money directly from the casino but they also gain more viewers, however I think that form of advertising is a little bit deceiving so I do not really agree with it.
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This is kind of promotion for different platforms. In the past we used to see YouTube videos for the streamers making money and try their strategies. Now this has turned to be a way of promoting respective platforms and get paid. If we look upon the streamers it looks like they're spending big and making big money. The reality, they're funded by the gambling platforms and they play without the fear of losing which for sure brings in profit.

I think it's either the company hire them or this Youtubers just decided to go to other platforms and then promotions just started coming. So it's easy for them to make money and then promote the casinos. And maybe the casino too is feeding them with money so that they can able to sustain their play in live audience with huge bet on the screens. And that's why they are not afraid to go with max bets and not fear of losing because it's not their money anyway.

Well not only YouTube is a platform where Streamers can meet, a very famous platform is twitch, which in 2021 was so famous that almost all NFT players made a big community there, they used to make these presentations to acquire more players, more community and I'm not sure how much Twitch can pay to use their platform, I imagine they have some rules similar to those of YouTube, maybe a little higher so they make people go there, however for me the streamers are very positive for a casino, because it is a way of interacting with players, knowing what they want and how a casino can get new ideas to improve.On this subject, Stake.com are all masters.

Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.
If the casino sponsors the streamer, they can place big bets because the streamer doesn't think about where the money is coming from. And that's an advantage for the streamer because he benefits from what he does. Apart from earning money from the casino, he also has the opportunity to get additional followers who will become his referrals so that he will get additional income from them. And this is what triggers many streamers to appear this year because they can get a lot of extra income.
It is very likely that those streamers are receiving money from the casinos in order to create those videos and create a win-win situation for both of them, the casino is able to promote itself in such a way that many people do not really think of the streaming they are watching as a form of advertising, and the streamer not only earns money directly from the casino but they also gain more viewers, however I think that form of advertising is a little bit deceiving so I do not really agree with it.
I agree with you, there are many casinos that hire streamers and some that are very transparent, of course this brings them many more followers, it makes them have profits that can sometimes be very good to be true, however, the casinos that allow having streamers do it well, some that are very sensationalist if they can turn out to be misleading, there are many strategies that casinos apply, advertising and marketing is what every casino does, those who bet on a streamer that makes them look very good, and I think those who are famous streamers bring much more clients, it's all in the strategy they want to implement.

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August 13, 2022, 04:35:54 AM
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Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.
If the casino sponsors the streamer, they can place big bets because the streamer doesn't think about where the money is coming from. And that's an advantage for the streamer because he benefits from what he does. Apart from earning money from the casino, he also has the opportunity to get additional followers who will become his referrals so that he will get additional income from them. And this is what triggers many streamers to appear this year because they can get a lot of extra income.
It is very likely that those streamers are receiving money from the casinos in order to create those videos and create a win-win situation for both of them, the casino is able to promote itself in such a way that many people do not really think of the streaming they are watching as a form of advertising, and the streamer not only earns money directly from the casino but they also gain more viewers, however I think that form of advertising is a little bit deceiving so I do not really agree with it.
Besides that, the acting of the streamers to convince the audience and followers is very good and maybe that's what makes them follow what the streamers are doing. We also sometimes follow what someone we find on the website suggests.

But at least, if we accidentally watch videos from those streamers, it's better that we don't think about it too much and assume that what those streamers do is just to provide entertainment to the audience. Thus, we would not be interested in trying as he did.

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Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.

That was too much for me. I think knowing the truth is just a waste of time. That's not even beneficial to us.

As long as the streamer is showing good content, then people will really watch it. How come it becomes a big deal if they are using sponsored money or not? What it will bring to us if we know where the money will come from?

As long as the site they are showing in the content is reputable, we don't need to be bothered if these streamers are using their own money or not.

It will just add another problem to your mind. That's not a necessary thing to think of. That's a non-sense issue.
Even though the funds seems sponsored the streamers are having real life experience and generating contents for their viewers who get enticed with their huge wins. If the funds are sponsored as claimed then there must always be terms and conditions that will govern how this huge wins gets credited.  But come to think of it, For streamers to make good contents on their winnings it means they have had good experience exploring the casino the promote. The key take away is how much the sell this contents to their target audience and with less regards if the funds were sponsored or not
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August 13, 2022, 06:17:59 AM
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all can be manipulated as if they always win and get a lot of profit. even though it's just a setting for promotional purposes, because some streamers are indeed one of the ambassadors of a gambling product. can be seen from some of the ads that continue to run. Any betting records are unreliable, I don't think the streamer himself has ever played for real money on a promoted gambling site. he only gets paid for the promotions he does.
Yes, everything can be manipulated, including the money used by the streamer because as a promoter promoting that casino, he may get a bonus or extra money for playing so he can show his followers to play with him. This strategy sometimes works, sometimes it doesn't work depending on who is watching the video and if the viewers are people who are not affected by such videos, he will of course, just skip it and will not follow it. I guess there may also be streamers who actually use real money on gambling sites, but we'll never know the truth.
Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.
We could really expect the rise of these streamers not only focusing on gambling but also in other industries as well.

Regarding the wins of the streamers, they have a lot of budget with it which is a sponsor with the gambling platform and to those, we will see of their post and videos regarding the large amount those only are the edited version that they win but not included the lose game of course to gain more players. AFAIK they cannot make a withdrawal with those like they need to spend and it is separate with their salary of promotions. Regarding with the games it is the same there's no manipulation right there because they need to change it in the back-end that gives more hassle to them.

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Well never know the truth behind specially if we do see that a certain streamer do make out big bets then it would really be coming into our minds if those funds came from sponsor or just purely came from their own pockets which it is really unlikely because these streamers is doing their job to earn money and not to spend that much on the gambling platform itself.Its not really worth thats why its normal for people to make
out some presumptions that it was sponsored and not theirs even on talking about being rigged or not fair would really be included on someones presumptions.

That was too much for me. I think knowing the truth is just a waste of time. That's not even beneficial to us.

As long as the streamer is showing good content, then people will really watch it. How come it becomes a big deal if they are using sponsored money or not? What it will bring to us if we know where the money will come from?

As long as the site they are showing in the content is reputable, we don't need to be bothered if these streamers are using their own money or not.

It will just add another problem to your mind. That's not a necessary thing to think of. That's a non-sense issue.
Even though the funds seems sponsored the streamers are having real life experience and generating contents for their viewers who get enticed with their huge wins. If the funds are sponsored as claimed then there must always be terms and conditions that will govern how this huge wins gets credited.  But come to think of it, For streamers to make good contents on their winnings it means they have had good experience exploring the casino the promote. The key take away is how much the sell this contents to their target audience and with less regards if the funds were sponsored or not
I don't think these streamers needed the experience. If you know the basics of slots and then some casino message you that they want to sponsor you to promote their casinos then it's very easy for them.

It well sell definitely, specially those who have been in the sphere and a lot of followers or viewers already. So whatever casino's they are going to show in their stream, there could be people that will going to play on that casino to test and  get the experience and hope that they will also get to win big.

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But come to think of it, For streamers to make good contents on their winnings it means they have had good experience exploring the casino the promote.

In the first place, why these streamers will make content on playing in a casino if they don't know the basics? Obviously, they know it and have experience playing in casinos already as how can they perform well on their content if they are having a hard time with what they are doing?

Not unless the content is about "first time exploring the casino" - that just reasonable for these streamers to show the content of how they starting to learn the interface of the site they are showing on their respective content.

These streamers are just showing their experience in the casino regardless if they win or lose on that content. The result of their gambling session during that particular content is not a big deal for their viewers as the purpose of that content is to share the streamer's session on that gambling site.

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August 13, 2022, 12:43:04 PM
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That's right. The main idea of such streams is to increase recognition of a gambling site among the audience who is interested in gambling. I have heard many times that streamers play for the money of a gambling site and get extra money for streaming. And it is quite a lot of money. That is why streamers with a large audience are increasingly involved in this kind of promotion.

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August 13, 2022, 03:23:10 PM
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That's right. The main idea of such streams is to increase recognition of a gambling site among the audience who is interested in gambling. I have heard many times that streamers play for the money of a gambling site and get extra money for streaming. And it is quite a lot of money. That is why streamers with a large audience are increasingly involved in this kind of promotion.
As long as you have a streaming media platform that has a lot of followers, it can have a good influence on companies that may be able to give gifts to you or can collaborate to provide advertisements or solicitation of followers for a large enough fee, but you have to be careful because there are several gambling establishments that have been hit by cases and can have a bad impact on influencers.

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