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August 02, 2022, 06:32:28 AM
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https://wintomato.com

In describing professional cheating in private card games, the book focuses on the structure of such games and specific cheating techniques associated with the shuffle, deals, and switching cards. Specialized moves are described for various card games. Typical amateur scams in private card games are also reviewed. An examination of scams run by casinos and their employees focuses on techniques used in craps, blackjack, and roulette. Cheating techniques used by casino patrons encompasses blackjack, craps, roulette, and slot machines. Casino cheating conspiracies are also described. After reviewing the various cheating techniques used in private dice games, the book details scams in various carnival games and in three-card monte. The con games described involve various plots whereby victims believe they are guaranteed returns on their investments because of a dishonest edge. The con games discussed include short-term games that are typically played in bars and long-term cons that involve extended investment frauds. The proposition bets described pertain to scams involving betting on some unusual event, such as a passing license plate or which commercial will appear next on television. A glossary.

Betting fraudsters offer inside information that tends to focus on horse racing, but could involve betting on any sport.

You receive a glossy brochure introducing you to an insider in the world of horse racing who is consistently able to provide information that will give your betting decisions a winning edge.

If you pay a subscription fee, you can have this confidential information sent to you. Or, you can use your own money to place bets on behalf of the ‘expert’ and send him his winnings while also placing your own bets. The stake you place on behalf of the expert acts as your fee.

An obvious question is: why would someone with inside information want to pass it on to others when they could make bigger profits from it by keeping it secret?

The fraudsters have an answer. They will say they are unable to place their own bets because they are too well known to bookmakers. As a result, the only way to profit from their inside information is by selling it or getting you and others like you to place bets on their behalf.

The fraudsters don’t have inside information or unbeatable systems that guarantee winning bets. Nor will you increase your chances of winning through these schemes.

It is against horse racing rules for people within the industry to pass on sensitive information. Therefore, it is highly unlikely that anyone who has inside information will advertise the fact. Anyone who does is very likely to be up to no good.

Are you a victim of betting fraud?
You’ve received a glossy brochure introducing you to a sports insider who has an outstanding track record in winning bets.
You’ve paid a subscription fee and received “confidential” information.
You’ve started to place bets based on the information you’ve received, or on someone else's behalf.
What should you do if you've been a victim of betting fraud?
Report it to Action Fraud.
Break off contact with the fraudster immediately.
If you’ve reported the fraud to Action Fraud, keep any brochures, documents and communications as possible evidence.
Be aware that the fraudster may have sold your contact details to other fraudsters, who will target you with other frauds.
Protect yourself against betting fraud
Beware of any scheme that guarantees you will win at betting.
Be vigilant about betting schemes offering insider secrets to you.  Why would someone sell his or her secrets?
Don’t place bets on behalf of someone else, particularly someone you don’t know.


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August 02, 2022, 07:03:34 AM
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If you have a scam accusation against them, you should post on the Scam Accusations and follow the scam report format.

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]

To be guided, read the sticky posts there for you to have this post on the right section. They have an ongoing campaign on the forum and let's see what the others will say and also a thread that's like inactive nearly a month now.

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August 02, 2022, 11:43:59 AM
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The user used multiple account for Dep. bonus , faucet and fortune wheel farming; We identified them and blocked;
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August 02, 2022, 03:54:19 PM
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The user used multiple account for Dep. bonus , faucet and fortune wheel farming; We identified them and blocked;
You should add more proof about this claim, you can mention his username and also other alts that you accused based on your system. You have a similar case before where there's no rules about faucet abuse and you accuse the user did abusing your faucet.


@OP I'm not really understand what you're trying to say, it's full of non-related content with your case, you should straight away with your case.
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August 02, 2022, 04:01:42 PM
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Oh please make the statement straight forward to save time. The statement that you provide is just pure mocking about the casino that you might experience some issue. You are accused for having a multiple account and I believe you really deserved to banned immediately. Even though this casino has previous history of slow fixing of customer issue, I still don’t to believe in this OP with this kind of narrative about his case. He seems just upset for being caught than being scammed.

Move this topic on Reputation section and use the proper scam accusation format that @sunsilk posted.

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August 02, 2022, 05:55:37 PM
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@OP you should go straight to your complaint and point out how this website has scammed you rather than give this long lecture note about wintomato. so far all you have written is a description of cheating and not an actual incident where wintomato scammed you.
if you don't have an eveidence of being scammed i don't see why it is necessary to create this post.
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August 05, 2022, 03:40:03 AM
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https://wintomato.com

In describing professional cheating in private card games, the book focuses on the structure of such games and specific cheating techniques associated with the shuffle, deals, and switching cards. Specialized moves are described for various card games. Typical amateur scams in private card games are also reviewed. An examination of scams run by casinos and their employees focuses on techniques used in craps, blackjack, and roulette. Cheating techniques used by casino patrons encompasses blackjack, craps, roulette, and slot machines. Casino cheating conspiracies are also described. After reviewing the various cheating techniques used in private dice games, the book details scams in various carnival games and in three-card monte. The con games described involve various plots whereby victims believe they are guaranteed returns on their investments because of a dishonest edge. The con games discussed include short-term games that are typically played in bars and long-term cons that involve extended investment frauds. The proposition bets described pertain to scams involving betting on some unusual event, such as a passing license plate or which commercial will appear next on television. A glossary.

Betting fraudsters offer inside information that tends to focus on horse racing, but could involve betting on any sport.

You receive a glossy brochure introducing you to an insider in the world of horse racing who is consistently able to provide information that will give your betting decisions a winning edge.

If you pay a subscription fee, you can have this confidential information sent to you. Or, you can use your own money to place bets on behalf of the ‘expert’ and send him his winnings while also placing your own bets. The stake you place on behalf of the expert acts as your fee.

An obvious question is: why would someone with inside information want to pass it on to others when they could make bigger profits from it by keeping it secret?

The fraudsters have an answer. They will say they are unable to place their own bets because they are too well known to bookmakers. As a result, the only way to profit from their inside information is by selling it or getting you and others like you to place bets on their behalf.

The fraudsters don’t have inside information or unbeatable systems that guarantee winning bets. Nor will you increase your chances of winning through these schemes.

It is against horse racing rules for people within the industry to pass on sensitive information. Therefore, it is highly unlikely that anyone who has inside information will advertise the fact. Anyone who does is very likely to be up to no good.

Are you a victim of betting fraud?
You’ve received a glossy brochure introducing you to a sports insider who has an outstanding track record in winning bets.
You’ve paid a subscription fee and received “confidential” information.
You’ve started to place bets based on the information you’ve received, or on someone else's behalf.
What should you do if you've been a victim of betting fraud?
Report it to Action Fraud.
Break off contact with the fraudster immediately.
If you’ve reported the fraud to Action Fraud, keep any brochures, documents and communications as possible evidence.
Be aware that the fraudster may have sold your contact details to other fraudsters, who will target you with other frauds.
Protect yourself against betting fraud
Beware of any scheme that guarantees you will win at betting.
Be vigilant about betting schemes offering insider secrets to you.  Why would someone sell his or her secrets?
Don’t place bets on behalf of someone else, particularly someone you don’t know.


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What is wintomato have to do with all this?
After reading the entire post I felt I was reading a blog article which title could be "Don't buy insider information".
If you have a scam accusation then be specific. No one has time to read wall of texts. Be specific, bring substantial evidence, make it readable for others.

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August 05, 2022, 03:55:57 AM
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Now this one is a first for me.
A case of plagiarism in the scam accusation section, but by the accuser not the accused:

The first paragraph is from here:
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/gambling-scams-how-they-work-how-detect-them-how-protect-yourself
including the : " A glossary."

Second one starting from:
Betting fraudsters offer inside information that tends to focus on horse racing, but could involve betting on any sport.

The rest of the text is copied from here:
http://www.fraudalert.co.uk/betting-fraud.html

So, nothing to do directly with wintomato




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August 05, 2022, 04:08:35 AM
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Now this one is a first for me.
A case of plagiarism in the scam accusation section, but by the accuser not the accused:

The first paragraph is from here:
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/gambling-scams-how-they-work-how-detect-them-how-protect-yourself
including the : " A glossary."

Second one starting from:
Betting fraudsters offer inside information that tends to focus on horse racing, but could involve betting on any sport.

The rest of the text is copied from here:
http://www.fraudalert.co.uk/betting-fraud.html
I wish you would post it before me so I would not need to spend 5 minutes reading the copy/paste information from OP. Such a waste of time and I blame you 🤣

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So, nothing to do directly with wintomato
I was even searching for wintomato on the topic just to be sure that I did not miss to read a line related to wintomato. The word exists in the 2nd line and that's it.

Is this a new way to whore merit?

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August 05, 2022, 10:52:07 AM
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I am now curious how wintomato knows that the OP was cheating their Deposit bonus, faucet and fortune wheel farming via multiple accounts when the OP never mentioned anything about his account on his plagiarised post. also, what the hell is going on in OP's mind copy-pasting an article as a scam accusation against a casino?

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August 05, 2022, 12:32:51 PM
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I am now curious how wintomato knows that the OP was cheating their Deposit bonus, faucet and fortune wheel farming via multiple accounts when the OP never mentioned anything about his account on his plagiarised post. also, what the hell is going on in OP's mind copy-pasting an article as a scam accusation against a casino?

Yeah, I agree there's no mention of user id or username on OP'a post, OP should simplify and post his concern this is a scam section, we like to know and understand his concern but how can we do that if he is giving us lectures, I did not even read his long post because it has nothing to do with his concern, and to think OP is already a Full member, he should know better.

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August 07, 2022, 12:29:55 AM
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I am now curious how wintomato knows that the OP was cheating their Deposit bonus, faucet and fortune wheel farming via multiple accounts when the OP never mentioned anything about his account on his plagiarised post. also, what the hell is going on in OP's mind copy-pasting an article as a scam accusation against a casino?
I assume, there was a user who had trouble with Wintomato and they found out the user was exploiting their system. The same user could be the OP. So, wintomato thought to have their statement to reply him.

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August 07, 2022, 11:53:38 AM
Last edit: August 07, 2022, 03:01:03 PM by AnotherAlt
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Same Question as BitcoinGirl.Club. What does Wintomato have to do with this? Follow the scam accusation format.
I have another question, Why have you left Positive feedback on their profile with a ref link (spam) while you accuse them of scam?

poer    2022-07-26    Reference     https:// wintomato.com /en/registration/16124 [/b

Does anybody know if it's allowed to share your affiliate link on feedback?



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I just noticed you have left Negative Feedback on Jawhead999's Profile just because he supported a previous scam accusation against you.  Jawhead999 left Negative feedback on your profile and later he revised it to neutral.

However the tag have revised from negative to neutral since the @OP is inactive and there's no update anymore from his side.

Do you even know how The trust feedback system works?
The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

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August 07, 2022, 02:20:38 PM
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@poer, how is the Wintomato.com site trying to deceive you, you yourself don't show any evidence of your loss here, how many dollars did you bet on the Wintomato.com gambling site, I don't see the loss data you experienced here.

Wintomato is currently improving their reputation, reviews are still open for 80 members who bet and have problems on the Wintomato site, try visiting here: Wintomato.com Review campaign ! 80 Slots open !

You can write all forms of positive and negative complaints in their reviews, I think they will fix all complaints experienced by their customers to get good results, if you are in doubt and confused, just go to their review thread.

I think the content of your topic is suitable to be stated in the Wintomato review thread at length.

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August 13, 2022, 09:15:34 AM
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The user used multiple account for Dep. bonus , faucet and fortune wheel farming; We identified them and blocked;

He is try to be smart without knowing of being tracked.
now he comes here making all nonsense post about calling you people scam.

My question

Why is it that only those who always try to play smart by making multi account for Deposit bonus that quickly run to accused the site of being scammed, at this point they paraphrase the whole statement to be in their favor whereby they will refuse to share some evidence, and end up writing long statement instead of simply notes attaching with screenshots?

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August 16, 2022, 10:30:35 PM
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What is wintomato have to do with all this?
After reading the entire post I felt I was reading a blog article which title could be "Don't buy insider information".
If you have a scam accusation then be specific. No one has time to read wall of texts. Be specific, bring substantial evidence, make it readable for others.

I was patient and read to a certain point and it was not correlating with the title of the post. I had to pause to see if the user is a newbie, after seeing that he is a full member, I wanted to proceed reading, but another taught said I should check comments, now I have not wasted my time.
I just feel like running Op with a plagiarism checker, who knows the article was copied from a blog to accuse wintomato Grin. It's looking like a blog post rather than an accusation thread.

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