Beta of new forum software now officially open

[KingsDen]

I couldn't believe how I excitedly jumped on thus topic hoping it's a new one opened by theymos. Though I was quick to check the page and noticed it was old. However, I didn't know such a good attempt has been made to launch another forum software as far back as 2016.
What different features had it then that made it a beta version?
Knowing that the project was abandoned could be a clear indication that even if a new software is launched by theymos, it could be abandoned for this, unless this won't be functional anymore.

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[Fivestar4everMVP]

I couldn't believe how I excitedly jumped on thus topic hoping it's a new one opened by theymos.

I am just coming about this thread for the first time and I had exactly the same feeling,  .
I actually screamed "wow" out loud before opening the thread, and quickly, my eyes went to the date the thread was created and I discovered its from way back 2016, then immediately, the excitement died out, checking on the epochtalk link, I discovered the project is no longer online.
This indeed must have been an attempt on something that's really good, I am kind of disappointed the project got abandoned.

[Rizzrack]

I couldn't believe how I excitedly jumped on thus topic hoping it's a new one opened by theymos.

Pretty sure everyone had that feeling after the thread was bumped to the first page 

Knowing that the project was abandoned ...

I am kind of disappointed the project got abandoned.

How do you know the project was abandoned
not more than 2 weeks ago I was in a call with Cyrus and two of the devs about some backend details. When Epochtalk will be ready for public use we'll most likely have the beta subdomain back. Last commit was made 23h ago...

[UserU]

How do you know the project was abandoned

A project being in "beta" for too long is more or less in development hell.

While there might be some commits here and there (and they're mainly restricted to the subforum), many have gotten over the fact that we might not even see its light of the day.

Not trying to sound negative, but it shouldn't be taking this long for an UI/ software overhaul. Core functions available and those bells and whistles be added along the way, not all lumped into the main release.

[Rizzrack]

Talking about backend, looks like it's last updated on May 11, 2021[1]

The current repo that is being worked on is https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue (25 May 2022 last update to master, and 10 hours ago last commit in another branch . AngularJS is EOL and the code is being ported on VueJS.

I don't know far is Epochtalk development, but IMO open source alternative such as Discourse or Forem should be considered if Epochtalk is still far from finished or ready to be deployed.

The last update was that there were some back-end stuff left to port to VueJS, get the parser set up (there was a little discussion about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283998.0), update the dependencies (some older versions are still being used to work with AngularJS) and hopefully should be ready to fire up that beta.bitcointalk sub-domain

[Rizzrack]

I didn't find any information epochtalk/epochtalk-vue is port of epochtalk/epochtalk front end, no wonder some people assuming Epochtalk is abandoned. But since epochtalk/epochtalk last updated on "May 11, 2021", i'm not sure whether to interpret whether the back-end already ready for production usage or the developer currently focus on front-end

epochtalk/epochtalk is not maintained anymore
epochtalk/epochtalk-vue is the Epochtalk V2.0 VueJS version that is currently in the works. Both back-end and front-end were ported to use the VueJS syntax.
Right now they still have a bit more code to port to Vue and should be operational.
After that we can "argue" about CSS, layout style etc. We can even have a contest who forks the github repo and designs the best UI/UX theme for it. Dunno, just an idea 

[suchmoon]

I didn't find any information epochtalk/epochtalk-vue is port of epochtalk/epochtalk front end, no wonder some people assuming Epochtalk is abandoned. But since epochtalk/epochtalk last updated on "May 11, 2021", i'm not sure whether to interpret whether the back-end already ready for production usage or the developer currently focus on front-end

Not to beat the dead (or unborn) horse, but the mere fact that a framework went EOL while the forum software hasn't been released yet (or had a solid beta because let's face it - the product we've seen so far shouldn't have made it past alpha QA) is kinda indicative of where this is going. Now we're more than a year into rewriting for a new framework.

[KingsDen]

I couldn't believe how I excitedly jumped on thus topic hoping it's a new one opened by theymos.

Pretty sure everyone had that feeling after the thread was bumped to the first page 

Knowing that the project was abandoned ...

I am kind of disappointed the project got abandoned.

How do you know the project was abandoned
not more than 2 weeks ago I was in a call with Cyrus and two of the devs about some backend details. When Epochtalk will be ready for public use we'll most likely have the beta subdomain back. Last commit was made 23h ago...

Oops! This wasn't abandoned. Just how long it is taking made me use the word abandoned. I withdraw it as I see that last commit was made 30mins ago. This is an evidence that work is going on behind the scene. A big thumb up.

I see that the last commit was about adding email to reports by users?  Will users need to include email address for every report being made?

Well, let me be less curious and expect the launch whenever.

[Timelord2o67]

Yet another reason why abandoned threads should self-lock after twelve months...

 

[PrimeNumber7]

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The Beta environment hasn’t been running for years now. I don’t recall ever trying it out myself, and when I queried on the matter, we did get an answer as to why it was not running:

So does it mean that their work on the Epochtalk software has been postponed and/or the Epochtalk project is canceled?

I thought that the Epochtalk project is delayed and might be live one day but now it seems we will stick to the SMF forums which is also not bad in my opinion.

The underlying reasons why new forum software was needed in the first place has largely been resolved via code changes in the existing smf implementation. So it is no longer urgent for new forum software to be used.

I also believe that Theymos wants the new software to be “war tested” for security issues before implementing it on bitcointalk, but there appears to be little demand for the software on other forums (there are also a limited number of forums that have the level of commerce that bitcointalk has.

In other words, I don’t think the new software is ever going to be implemented.

[Rizzrack]

CMIIW, but what you say conflicted with README on epochtalk/epochtalk-vue. It mention usage of epochtalk/epochtalk as server.

That's because they started porting the frontend first and were still using the old angular version to start the server and have a working development environment.

But the backend is also being ported and when that is done the old angular version will not be needed anymore. No use having 2 instances in 2 javascipt flavours to run an app.

No spoilers, but may come with some interesting features that might jog a bit that demand. It may be wishful thinking on my part but at this point one can only hope 

[Rizzrack]

FWIW the frontend is pretty much ported with the last pull request and work will start on the backend / server side. That will definitely take less times to port the route files and the rest.

... In case you were wondering