Bitcoin Forum

I'm happy to announce that the new forum software (called Epochtalk) is now officially open for public testing at https://beta.bitcointalk.org/. Please help test it. To log in, you currently have to click on "Help, I forgot my password" to reset your password first. This password reset affects only beta.bitcointalk.org. For extra security, I recommend using a different password on the beta than on the main forum.

You can post about any bugs or missing features in either New forum software (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0) here or Beta discussion (https://beta.bitcointalk.org/boards/32_HMtu1T569M6MuLswIug) on the beta forum.

Good work! Time to do some more testing.

Do I get credit for signature posts there? ;)
Will give it a look right now.

Edit: Looks like I willhave to try from my comp. Got a wheel of death icon on my andriod.

nice. guess it won't be long before we start migrating to the new forum.  :D though there are still some bugs like inaccurate number of replies shown on the topic list and users post count and stuff.

Works fine on my Android.

err.... any way to get my password reset without an email?

Is that the final look of it or a different theme will be added? And instead of re-setting the password there, can we not just make a new(temp.) account to test it out?

Very exciting.

It shows my total number of posts as "1505" ! Whoa! I never made those many posts, my post count is still around 593(on this forum) . Also why doesn't it show my posts made after 11th April ?
And I also see there is a "deactivate account" option, just in case I press it and confirm it accidently, what happens? I believe it should at least have an email confirmation before finally deactivating you account.

That's the day they imported the current database into the Beta to have content, it's not synced to the live forum.

Ah I see. But where did they come up with the magical number of 1505?

Edit : There are no ranks on the new forum?
Edit 2 : What about personal messages? Wont they be imported?
Edit 3 : Its not working good with windows phone IE browser.

1505 is just a miscalculation/placeholder for your post count, everyone has absurd values, it also seems everyone is "HERO" as of now which I'm sure will be fixed with time

PMs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRgKbDsVGU

The final theme will look similar. Some adjustments might be made.

You can create a separate account if you want.


No. You could create a separate account using a throwaway email service.

With the final version, there will be a way to move your account without having a valid email.


I'm currently thinking that for security, PMs will not be automatically transferred over. Certainly, there will be a way to download your old PMs for at least a year after the transition, and maybe there will be a way to import these PMs into the new forum if you want. (I already have code written for exporting your PMs as an mbox file which you can import into eg. Thunderbird, though I haven't gotten around to creating all of the interface stuff for it yet.)

What is the security risk of transferring PMs over? I would think allowing people to import the PMs into the new forum would cause additional risks as PMs might be able to be faked, ect

My thoughts exactly. Would validating of PMs (by reporting it to a moderator) be possible after this?

Ah, this was unexpectedly great to hear. So exactly what is the plan once the beta finishes, a merge of everything (i.e. threads and posts made on both 'forums')?

Feels like a million dollars.

The moment we all have been waiting for! If I post something ,will it be reflected on this forum too ?

Nope.

Finally very good work i am so happy to try it out right now :)

I can not reset the password error is -> account or email not found is hiden by the popoup but something like this message.

Use BOTH hands, and one of your feet.   :P   ;)

Qeustion: will bitcointalk.org be close after the new forum is released? and do we still need to reset our password after the new forum is launched or is it just for the beta testing?

There will be a period for the forum software migration, if you're asking that if the domain will still be bitcointalk.org . The answer is yes
I think thats mandatory when the new forum software replaces this one

The lower part of the page (or what do you called that section of a web) seems not loading. Im using the latest version of Firefox. Also can't load it using my native stock browser for Android. Or maybe that part isn't available at the moment?

https://i.imgur.com/WS0XaNt.png

Those links haven't been added/relevant features haven't been implemented yet.

How do I remove my email from being visible? I can't seem to find the option...

@ lauda can you please help me i can not reset the password.

This option is not available at the time. It will be added later.

What exactly is the problem? I'll notify a developer.

This is the unofficial process at the moment... we'll make it clearer as time comes

1. update your email on bitcointalk.org (this forum)
2. data will get synchronized in a day or 2 to the new site
3. try the reset password link again from the new site

For the email, we don't want to be manually updating accounts because it is prone to error and can be subjected to social engineering hacks. Thanks.

Thanks for the clerification on this point, i will just wait for a few days.

Maybe i'm to stupid to notice this, but with my browser, on my OS, i cannot seem to find the reply-link, nor see a reply-form anywhere on any of the topics (including the one i opened myself)

https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/QDR0jUeERXK_FeEKT_un1Q/posts

Yeh it's that plus sign on the right bottom. That definitely needs to change IMO. Too many people confused by it (including me in beginning.) Just "traditional" reply button location seems much better.

Thanks :)
Indeed, pretty confusing. But i guess it's just a small learning curve

The post count on the beta forum is wrong or not?!

The post count is currently 'bugged'. However, it isn't a big issue. It will be fixed.

I concur.

Pretty cool if you ask me :)

Will javascript always be a requirement of the new forum?

This beta version is totally different with the current version I normally use. Get used to new look but that will be alright after using it for a period. Is this version almost so far it will replace the version now live.

Dooood that sucks. Old one 4 the win!

LOL. I'm already get used to the new forum software even though I have only use it for like 10 minutes. Too bad that this is only a beta, I can't wait to see what it will be looked like when it is fully developed!

I like to old forum style over the new one to be honest.

Congrats and thank you for your work. The design looks slick although it needs improvement.

They(mods) are pretty active in that forum as well ATM , I'd guess. However, the best thing you can do (IMO) is to report 'em(the post with their respective link) to a mod in this forum via PM & it'll be fine as well.

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Did you count 'em? That's sarcastic.

LOL. With NSFW images? He is spamming the same image in other thread as well.
Here: https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/SOjm28uhRiaAon1aLC65wQ/posts

Yeah, I noticed that there is no character limit in the new forum software.
This thread have more than 120k characters. (https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/NVhXrI8BScC4kNAl5BRX0A/posts)

Just gave it another shot, looks like I just did not give it enough time to load.

Is there a buglist being maintained somewhere? To check if I'm not reporting something that's already known.

Post limitations might have been overlooked but people like him make it seem like it isn't so trivial.

Great, will check this out now on my journey home.

It just makes me extremely nervous to transfer this huge chunk of very-private data from this extremely-battle-hardened software onto new software.


Anything you post on beta.bitcointalk.org outside of Beta discussion will be deleted in the final merge.

I just find the new forum look awful. The old one was unique. This one looks like a lot of altcoins forum, it is common. For me, the old will be always better !

Good to know.

The look doesn't matter that much, the functionality does. AFAIK there will be more themes/this one won't be default (?). I dislike the current one as well.

I'm not sure whether there is one outside of Github.

So new functionalities are coming ? What about translations of the menus, the buttons etc. ? That would be something I would love and to which I could contribute. If a "retro" theme, like this one is available, I won't have any regret to switch to the new forum software. Also, a little functionality that I would like would be that you would get PMs from the forum when you someone replies to a thread you marked, as a kind of notification+, but maybe all this is off-topic and there's a dedicated thread to functionality suggestions.

Lol my guides are so mashed up: https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABI7IQ/posts

• Font size command has changed which seems weird - every previous instance has pt but now it rejects pt.
• Viewable width is ~60% of what it was.
• Anchor command has gone.
• Table commands seem the same but not working.
• Thread and post numbering has changed from numerical to alpha which makes it very hard to tell chronological order and prevents easily swapping between versions.
• Search seems to be doing nothing.
• Very little user stats or information.
• No post history of users.

I was trying to navigate to my Manufacturer trustworthiness guide but its probably page 20 by now and can't get there via link, history or changing URLs.

thanks for the info! ill ask again if i need something to be clarify.
thanks!!

*Now there is no UID for users ?
*Only the messages tab works out of these three :  https://i.snag.gy/S5ZnLv.jpg
  also a hover popup displaying these tabs' names should be added.
*Now the user have to type all the BB code himself ?
 It is missing some frequently used BB code's buttons like bold, italics, etc. which are currently available in older version at top in "post reply".
*Why is HR and BTC a closed tag now ?
*The BTC logo is (currently) not displayed, instead BTC is only displayed after using

at first glance it seems too naked for me, i hope this is not even close to being the final release for the front

anyway when i go backwards to the previous page the scroll begins from up down, is this done on purpose?

No one say anything bad about the new forum.

Censorship is awesome.

I'm not sure whether you are being serious or trying to troll. This thread is full of things that are wrong with the forum.

They are already here, you just don't have the 'access level' to see some of them (e.g. moderator tools).

What do you mean by this? Translate the forum interface into other languages?

No point in translating anything yet, as text strings are prone to change while in Beta.

There is another bug, any user can currently post in the "Important Announcements" Section, where only VIPs, Mods are allowed to post.

Look i posted there ! : https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/iNBBdJ2fRpSbFQf6BZ42lQ/posts (https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/iNBBdJ2fRpSbFQf6BZ42lQ/posts)

Also my rank is hero there !

For Lauda : yes, that's what I mean. Profile becomes Profil in French or Perfil on Spanish. That could be an interesting feature I think.

For Cyrus : of course, nothing to be done now. That's just a proportion for the future. I think it can be something nice to bring to the forum :).

Not sure why my comment was the only one to be deleted then.

I guess in the future, if theymos agrees, they can post the strings somewhere and let the community translate them.

Which one? Maybe your post is somewhat off-topic. PM me and let's see.

That's most likely what will happen, on a platform like transifex(which is used by Bitcoin Core as well).

Honestly, the most trivial thing that's messed up for me is the width. It's a huge difference from what the current software uses. It'd get any post like yours messed up (that and the fact that bbcode support isn't complete).

All I hope is option to keep old forum layout or switch between old and new forum at will when this new one will go live. Because at first glance new layout is not that impressive imo.

My guess is there will be an UID as well as display name link to the profile of users.
Since the display name can be changed, it is better to have the UID link to profiles as well.

Due to some spam that the software wasn't quite prepared to handle yet, registration of new users is disabled for now.

I'm trying to access the beta but I keep getting a 502 error.

Edit: nvm, it fixed itself.

I would suggest adding a feature that allows each member to hide or block any topics that they have already read and don't need to read again.  Some topics stay near the top which is fine for those that need that topic but some of us might not need to see it anymore. :)

Like an ignore topic?

After some poking around all I can say it's underwhelming.

The good news is that devs seem to be responsive and Bitcointalk users are a demanding bunch so there is hope that it all can be sorted out.


To answer my own question:

https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/8Gvic-DiRbGR8RjKYyNF0Q/posts

I already said that the current theme won't be the final one and that there are probably going to be a few to change to. You can always request the change if that is not the case.

Transifex was the first to come to mind as well.

Exciting! Have been waiting for this for years.

It looks cool, nice and easy. But as it is unusual yet  :). On the mobile device has not yet been tried, but I hope that it will normally be viewed in contrast to the "old" version.

are the "+1" in the form of "i like" coming to agree fast on another poster?

What a bad idea to allow the name change. I can't even imagine all the scams and the hoaxes that will pop around in the minute...

No. Even if changing the display name gets allowed, display name != username. If you take a closer look at the posts in the beta, you will notice that left is the username (with a bigger font) and on the right is the display name (smaller).

Actually currently you can also change your username when you edit your profile.

Are you sure about that? I've tried it at least once and it just returns the error:  Profile could not be updated.

I've answered this already. Please read the whole thread before posting.

Yes. You actually just did change your username: https://beta.bitcointalk.org/profiles/Lauda123

Interesting find! I've tried this yesterday I think, but upon receiving the error nothing happened and I ignored it. I've changed it a few moments ago, but did not refresh and thus I didn't notice.

I haven't tried login yet since I don't want to change my password. but yea that's a good feature I wanna change my username as well.
So when is this going to be done and not just beta?  Seen the new forum thread in the forum posted almost a year ago.

You can login without changing the password, click on forgot password and then when it asks to enter new password, just enter the old one only.
BTW, the registration of new accounts on beta forum is currently stopped by thymos.

That can not be known at this time. There are many bugs to be fixed and things to be sorted out.

Hopefully not, will still be abused by multi accounters to sway opinion.

Very bizzare, on my ipad the new beta does not load all i get is request timeout error maybe it's the browser i will try it again on a different one.

I don't know where you see that option. On the main account editing panel, I have "Username : Erkallys Name : Erkallys", and I can't change any of them. Maybe that's a function reserved to the Legendary members ?

This functionality is not limited to legendary members.  Currently the lowest level of users there is hero.
To change username :

- Click on your username on top right.
- You would be redirected to beta.bitcointalk.org/profiles/"username"
- Click on "Edit Profile" below your avatar.
- Now enter your new Username and Display name in the textbox of the popup that opened.
- Click Save !

Where's this top right where I should click on ? It is in my profile section ? Maybe you're talking about the top right of the beta version of the new forum, and if yes, there's a confusion, because I was talking about this ability on the current forum.

Yes, I was talking about BETA forum, the thread is about it.
It is NOT possible to change the username in current Forum.

i tried to login but it show like this


is i just need to reset my password ?

You need to follow the instructions and reset the password, though you can set the current password only in the input box !
But currently the registrations are off on beta forum.

Oh sure ! I know it. The way NLNico replied me let me thought that it was possible in this forum, so currently possible. Sorry for that.

Have you had any 'luck' with reproducing the problem? I've tried on a few android phones and it seems to work fine on Chrome. Try different browsers or some iPhone or other iOS device if you have one.

Don't do that. Don't use the same password on multiple sites, even if one is a beta of another. If the beta site leaks passwords your main account can get compromised.

Can we expect BBcode support and design good enough to migrate current posts without formatting issues by the time of the final release?

I made a new account to access the earliest pre-beta site, but when I tried using it to log into the official beta site it said my credentials were unrecognised. Has my other account been deleted? I didn't make any posts with it, I only used it to view the pre-beta site.

Did you create the new account today? If so, you might have overlooked at theymos post.

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It looks like registration has been enabled back.

I guess with the new forum there will be all new Moderators / Staff too right ? LOL

I had a suspicion something was up when This place was lagging and throwing 502's for a while.
related? who knows..

I would go test it out right now but i am scared  :'(
..i think theymos is trying to catfish me and steal my megahurtz  :o

And will i be able to drop my GreaseMoneky Black style (global) script ?
Hey boss man a Black styled dark theme would be SUPER popular i bet.

I dunno i may wait a while to check it out though which makes me wonder..
Is this beta going to go on for a while ? like months ?
And is there some way to know if the beta version has changed ?

EDIT:
Any new forum rules for the new site by chance ? possible ?

You can take a look at here (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk) if there are any changes made.

You're supposed to reset your password on the beta.

We can't tell you that at this moment. You would have to share your username with us.

U spent $1 m and build this shit! I thought 1m would built a decentralised forum. ::) :o
U are no less than Stephen Tual who has 0 knowledge of managing finances

Finally the most expensive web based forums is released to public. I am really happy that I can be one of the first few in history to test it. I like how SMF works with Bitcointalk and I really hope I will enjoy this million dollar forums. :).

Edit: A English (or maybe not) bug! The email I receive stated "© 2014 EpochTalk".

Everyone keeps talking about these things, yet nobody has a clue on how one should look like nor how to build one.

Report these things on the Beta itself in the Master Bug thread (https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/8Gvic-DiRbGR8RjKYyNF0Q/posts) or the Github page (https://github.com/epochtalk/beta.bitcointalk.org).

Think I'll wait until it goes live properly tested & checked etc. Interesting to read people's opinions though, hope it's good.

I just get a white screen on my BlackBerry. Am I missing something?

Will there be a mobile version of the forum? That would be AWESOME!

Don't like the layout or the style. Too bright white everywhere! :)

Look forward to the final product.

Worst 1 million dollars ever spent

Looks very nice. Good and clean too. I can't stand the way the never ending paycoin forums looked and more and more seem to work like that too with the weird page scrolling. I'm glad this one works as one should.

Nothing spectacular, exploring right now
I am used to SMF

I've already stated that there are going to be multiple themes, and hopefully this one won't be default.

It is more than a million dollars.

It has a long way to go before it is 'working as it should' be.

Are there any additional features in epochtalk and what made admin to change forum software  ???

That forum is completely different as it was build from scratch and the content is trying to be ported from this old SMF to it.

Sir, I know about this thing. I want to know why theymos aka admin thought to change forum software.
Was there any problem with SMF or there's something new in Epochtalk that SMF doesn't.

Well, it should be obvious. SMF, even though it is doing a decent job for outdated software, is quite bad. There are a lot of different limitations, especially for the staff, that I'm not going to mention in detail at this moment. If you had kept an closer look at the project, you would have read the 'to-do' list sometimes in the past. The new forum software can have almost anything that we desire; it has been built from scratch.

Suggestions:

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I would love to see a feature other forums have..
Unless we already have it and i missed it somehow.
What i want is a link to view my own topics i created.

Also want to point out how i had the Drafts page bookmarked manually.
(there is no link to it on your profile page)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=drafts

I think that was suggested already (or something similar). The forum, in the current state, does not have such a feature.

There is a link under "Post" and "Preview" when one is writing a post (albeit it is small).

I just made a new topic on the New Forum software section , Hopefully people will use it . that way developers will have to visit one place in order to check for bugs , suggestions etc ... : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1456167.new#new

I disagree with this one even though I appreciate the effort. If anything, you should do this on the new forum and not here. There was already a 'Master Bug' thread, but the bug list got moved to Github. This way the developers would have to check both forums in addition to Github (which is more than redundant).

I didn't knew about that , honestly I don't like the design at all so could you please link me where I should post on Github instead ?

Visuals are kind of subjective ATM. Some people will like it and others won't. You can file an issue here (https://github.com/epochtalk/beta.bitcointalk.org) if you notice any bugs. Just keep in mind that you should read the list of already reported bugs, so that you don't end up creating duplicates.

Ya i know that but the drafts can save your bacon if you shut the tab / window down.
I had made a tough to type out past last year then closed the window and was almost going to cry.
I ended up searching for the Drafts page and i found and bookmarked the link.
Most web sites would simply have a link to drafts somewhere like on the profile page etc.

Ever typed something out then the site fail to load then click back to see your comment gone ?
Well if you had the Drafts page her already bookmarked then click it.. problem solved ;)
How many guys here know that ?

Yes. This can be very painful if the post is longer and well written.

I'm certain that the number of users that are aware of it is not that high. They could just re-position the drafts on the new forum to make it much more visible.

Is the hiding of email still not available?   Also, my email on BTCtalk isn't exactly real... so is it still the same process of changing the email here, waiting 2 days, then trying to setup the account on beta*?

First thought... I'm hoping there will be more themes or different visual ways to display these threads.  :)   
I can't comment further without getting my account setup  ;D

No, that is still not available. You will have to wait a while longer.

If you spend a few hundred bucks out of a million on design then everything would look better. It's  subjective to some extent but still there are some aesthetic standards. It should be at least presentable. Why no one complains about Xenforo or Vbulletin or even SMF design.

Yea it..just doesn't please the eye ;/  Sorry Theymos. Prefer the classic forum theme by far. It's got such rustic charm to it.

And I'm typically an avid adopter of #new sh*t - particularly clean / 'polished chrome white'-looking interfaces..

The old forum style is much better than the new one.
Once the new forum is launched will the old one stay online or everyone will be forced to use the new forum software?
I know it have more features and security is better but the theme is ugly as hell  ;D

Though I don't prefer the theme over this one, imo the new features are really worth moving to the new forum. Admin, mods and we can do more :D

opinion may be biased, considering I got a better resolution avatar on the Beta.

There's a LOT of work that still need to be done. The new forum looks terrible.. I know it's beta, but still ..

It works well, but I sure hope the new forum will have some background colour like we have here in bitcointalk.

The beta forum functions all right but it looks bland. It needs a little bit of colour to liven it up :-\

It is a 1 million dollar project that can be used by others for FREE  as it is open sourced and hosted on GitHub !  ;D
 https://github.com/epochtalk/beta.bitcointalk.org

I'm on my phone 99.9% of the time and I still can't see the forum on it. I'm guessing for beta testing there won't be a mobile version? I still just get a white screen anytime I try it.

The looks don't matter that much IMO, the functionality does. Besides, that is subjective (some people will like it, and some will prefer the SMF look).

I have no idea why you're telling this to a staff member.

There should be a mobile version. It might be worth reporting that to the Github page.

I'm also asking about the JavaScript requirement

When browsing, another problem, the gray font isn't easy to see. I prefer black fonts the way they're here.

What is your question exactly? I can notify a developer to look at it.

There will be multiple themes so that is not a problem. You will be able to choose the one that suits you the most.

I was comparing a thread on bitcointalk.org with that of beta.bitcointalk.org.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1508175.0;all

https://beta.bitcointalk.org/threads/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABcDTw/posts

Why the last 2 posts of beta.bitcointalk.org are blank?

The blank posts mean that there was a hiccup with translation. They will eventually be filled out and sorry for the confusion.

Translation? Those posts are all in English!

would love to see some thread icons (etc) for the child forms

Great, but i think that some programmers would stop to use Bitcointalk because new version allow to browse only with Javascript, allot of people are aware about the vulnerabilities.

Why all subforums on beta are empty?

please keep the old forum.



its the gold standard. plain html based on a proven hardened php solution (smf).



this funky new react/angular/node.JS stuff, forget it. this tech changes too fast and is prone to problems.

i would not wonder if the database leaks came from this beta...

Good.

The beta was released after the database was leaked.

How is the world's most expensive forum software coming along?

What is the current status of the new forum ?

Not to confuse OP, he means a member of this forum not the member rank.

Beta of new forum software now officially open
April 19, 2016, 02:28:10 AM

two years later?...

Why I can't access the link given above? I feel bad because I'm really eager to become a part of that beta testing :(. By the way, I'm only using a smartphone right now and internet connection is definitely not a problem (I think so) because I have a stable one. I don't really know what's wrong, I hope someone could help me regarding this.

Is there anything new about this? I'm getting a Error 521 Web server is down error message.

The Beta environment hasn’t been running for years now. I don’t recall ever trying it out myself, and when I queried on the matter, we did get an answer as to why it was not running:


Some Epochtalk test sites were created as reflected on this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5114336.msg49932968#msg49932968) (I believe only Coinbistro is still running), but of course they allow to test the software with newly generated content, which is a broader goal from the perspective of a Bitcointalk user, but that lacks facilitating a more focused approach based on a migrated database and a parametrized environment to Bitcointalk’s future environment (were it to eventually crystalize).

When I saw this thread, my first thought was that it was a new one even though I saw it was quite a few pages long--I thought I might have missed it in the past couple of days.  I chuckled when I opened it and saw how old it actually is and realized for just how long I've been hearing about the fabled New Forum Software.

I'm almost certain said new software is never coming out, though I haven't checked for any new developments in the thread dedicated to it.  I'm just assuming that since it's taken so long, things that might have been worked on in the past would be, if not obsolete, not real improvements to the forum as it currently is.  Fine by me, though.

I see guys, thanks! :D Also sorry for necroposting; I just thought it wasn't worth opening a new thread just for asking where / how to test the beta forum software.

For me it's fine, too! Not sure why an upgrade would be needed to be fully honest. But I'm sure this has been extensively discussed for years already and doesn't fit this topic anyway.

So does it mean that their work on the Epochtalk software has been postponed and/or the Epochtalk project is canceled?

I thought that the Epochtalk project is delayed and might be live one day but now it seems we will stick to the SMF forums which is also not bad in my opinion.

I think the truth is that no one really knows anymore. So much time has passed and the people who worked on Epochtalk probably moved their focus to new projects a long time ago. Is there anyone from the original development team still working on Epochtalk or is everything solely in the domain of the open source community?

You're not alone. I haven't checked Meta for few days and I already thought that's new topic. I actually completely forgot about Mew forum software, there weren't any talks about it for a while. I'm not even sure that development of continues. I'm fine with current software, but it would be shame that after spending so much money on it, new forum software won't be released.
Still, I believe that new forum software will be released earlier than hell will freeze over :D.

Actually funny thing is I took a slight hiatus (over a year) from BTCTalk. I came back, and first thought was to check on the status of the new forum. I can't say I'm surprised. Especially seeing the lack of commits on the repo.

Yo this thread is low-key hilarious.

However, I don't think the forum should be changed. It would be dishonorabru to Satoshi's legacy.

Dunno what should be done with all the funds collected for it. As of now, it seems like their main purpose is to be slowly siphoned off to the "treasurers."

They should probably be donated to the Bitcoin Core developers, though somewhat incrementally.

I realize there's no Bitcoin Foundation anymore for good reason. Theoretically such a thing could act as stewards for donated funds, but for whatever reason positions in that type of entity just naturally attract sleazebags.

Ultimately it doesn't matter so long as the forum remains basically as is. Kind of like the blockchain.

Since there is no reply recently from theymos on this thread proofs that there will be no Epochtalk.

However, I was just seeing that we have a child board New forum software (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=167.0) dedicated to this possible new forum. What's the use of keeping this child board open when the plans for launching Epochtalk are postponed ?

I couldn't believe how I excitedly jumped on thus topic hoping it's a new one opened by theymos. Though I was quick to check the page and noticed it was old. However, I didn't know such a good attempt has been made to launch another forum software as far back as 2016.
What different features had it then that made it a beta version?
Knowing that the project was abandoned could be a clear indication that even if a new software is launched by theymos, it could be abandoned for this, unless this won't be functional anymore.

I am just coming about this thread for the first time and I had exactly the same feeling,  ;D.
I actually screamed "wow" out loud before opening the thread, and quickly, my eyes went to the date the thread was created and I discovered its from way back 2016, then immediately, the excitement died out, checking on the epochtalk link, I discovered the project is no longer online.
This indeed must have been an attempt on something that's really good, I am kind of disappointed the project got abandoned.

Pretty sure everyone had that feeling after the thread was bumped to the first page  ;D


How do you know the project was abandoned ???
not more than 2 weeks ago I was in a call with Cyrus and two of the devs about some backend details. When Epochtalk will be ready for public use we'll most likely have the beta subdomain back. Last commit (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue/commits/admin-panel) was made 23h ago...

A project being in "beta" for too long is more or less in development hell.

While there might be some commits here and there (and they're mainly restricted to the subforum), many have gotten over the fact that we might not even see its light of the day.

Not trying to sound negative, but it shouldn't be taking this long for an UI/ software overhaul. Core functions available and those bells and whistles be added along the way, not all lumped into the main release.

The current repo that is being worked on is https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue (25 May 2022 last update to master (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue/commits/master), and 10 hours ago last commit in another branch (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue/commits/admin-panel) . AngularJS is EOL and the code is being ported on VueJS.


The last update was that there were some back-end stuff left to port to VueJS, get the parser set up (there was a little discussion about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283998.0), update the dependencies (some older versions are still being used to work with AngularJS) and hopefully should be ready to fire up that beta.bitcointalk sub-domain :)

epochtalk/epochtalk is not maintained anymore
epochtalk/epochtalk-vue is the Epochtalk V2.0 VueJS version that is currently in the works. Both back-end and front-end were ported to use the VueJS syntax.
Right now they still have a bit more code to port to Vue and should be operational.
After that we can "argue" about CSS, layout style etc. We can even have a contest who forks the github repo and designs the best UI/UX theme for it. Dunno, just an idea  :P

Not to beat the dead (or unborn) horse, but the mere fact that a framework went EOL while the forum software hasn't been released yet (or had a solid beta because let's face it - the product we've seen so far shouldn't have made it past alpha QA) is kinda indicative of where this is going. Now we're more than a year into rewriting for a new framework.

Oops! This wasn't abandoned. Just how long it is taking made me use the word abandoned. I withdraw it as I see that last commit was made 30mins ago. This is an evidence that work is going on behind the scene. A big thumb up.

I see that the last commit was about adding email to reports by users?  Will users need to include email address for every report being made?

Well, let me be less curious and expect the launch whenever.

Yet another reason why abandoned threads should self-lock after twelve months...

 ::)

The underlying reasons why new forum software was needed in the first place has largely been resolved via code changes in the existing smf implementation. So it is no longer urgent for new forum software to be used.

I also believe that Theymos wants the new software to be “war tested” for security issues before implementing it on bitcointalk, but there appears to be little demand for the software on other forums (there are also a limited number of forums that have the level of commerce that bitcointalk has.

In other words, I don’t think the new software is ever going to be implemented.

That's because they started porting the frontend first and were still using the old angular version to start the server and have a working development environment.

But the backend is also being ported and when that is done the old angular version will not be needed anymore. No use having 2 instances in 2 javascipt flavours to run an app.

No spoilers, but may come with some interesting features that might jog a bit that demand. It may be wishful thinking on my part but at this point one can only hope  :P

FWIW the frontend is pretty much ported with the last pull request (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk-vue/commit/7836a69091b1a74819c0081d87889ff663c46243) and work will start on the backend / server side. That will definitely take less times to port the route files and the rest.

... In case you were wondering  :P