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September 16, 2022, 12:05:55 PM
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I think being an entrepreneur requires a lot of patience, for me, who works in an office with a monthly salary that is often lacking, it will be difficult to become an entrepreneur who is more suitable for those who are already in the financial security zone.
Anyone can become an entrepreneur, they don't have to be big financially, they all come from small, which will later grow to be big, that's why there are many processes that occur, so I think even though we are financially supportive, but our expertise in the field we are living, we don't understand, then it won't work. well, all entrepreneurs will prefer where they have mastered everything, so they can do it without having big financial capital.

Working in an office does have a salary, it depends on the place where we work, but what is certain is that the salary of an office will not exceed the income of an entrepreneur because he is the boss and he will get all his income.

Anyone can do it myself. I work in an office that is still running, while entrepreneurship is still in the process stage to show that I can become a successful entrepreneur.
totally agree with your opinion about building entrepreneurship. Opening your own business is difficult at first. because in addition to financial capital is a constraint. but the most important capital is expertise and courage in taking steps. because when we step into the entrepreneurial zone. then from there we get out of the comfort zone and safe. and it takes a lot of courage. then only people who dare to take risks are always successful in building entrepreneurship. Opening your own business is called high risk because you will not have a fixed salary like working in an office. our income depends on our success or failure in building the business itself. if we fail then the loss is obtained. but we still have an advantage in terms of lessons from the failures that we experience. so that when we start again, we already know where the mistakes that made our previous efforts failed. that is why it is said that Experience is the best teacher. In addition, the capital that must be owned by a businessman is mental capital and mindset capital. because often mental will be tested a lot in business and in entrepreneurship.

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September 16, 2022, 06:39:46 PM
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Generally, being self-employed is preferable to working for someone else, regardless of the benefits. If you are an entrepreneur, you can make as much profit as possible and the profits will still be yours, whereas if you work or trade to get paid, you are dependent on your employee and any profits made will not go for you; the only thing you get is your agreed salary.
Although both have significant risks, being on your own is preferable because the risk can be managed.
I agree with this, risk is unavoidable even though we are employees. But being an entrepreneur is more able to develop the potential that is in ourselves. Being entrepreneurs we are required to be more creative, I'm not saying that being an employee is not creative, but there are fundamental differences there. Being an employee we have got the main task of the company.
All professions have their own strengths and weaknesses, but if I had to choose I would be more interested in being a ruler.

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September 16, 2022, 08:12:37 PM
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Generally, being self-employed is preferable to working for someone else, regardless of the benefits. If you are an entrepreneur, you can make as much profit as possible and the profits will still be yours, whereas if you work or trade to get paid, you are dependent on your employee and any profits made will not go for you; the only thing you get is your agreed salary.
Although both have significant risks, being on your own is preferable because the risk can be managed.
I agree with this, risk is unavoidable even though we are employees. But being an entrepreneur is more able to develop the potential that is in ourselves. Being entrepreneurs we are required to be more creative, I'm not saying that being an employee is not creative, but there are fundamental differences there. Being an employee we have got the main task of the company.
All professions have their own strengths and weaknesses, but if I had to choose I would be more interested in being a ruler.
Being self employed doesnt automatically means that we would really be having that job forever which there's still a certain risk that you might able to lose that job and if you dont make yourself other

back up investment or businesses then your fucked since there are no other source of income you do have unless if you do get some job directly after you've been fired or laid off.

There's no assurance or guarantees on this world even on dealing with those typical things.This is why it would be more wise and sensible if you do always set out Plan B or Plan C and so on....

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September 17, 2022, 05:07:44 AM
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I agree with this, risk is unavoidable even though we are employees. But being an entrepreneur is more able to develop the potential that is in ourselves. Being entrepreneurs we are required to be more creative, I'm not saying that being an employee is not creative, but there are fundamental differences there. Being an employee we have got the main task of the company.
All professions have their own strengths and weaknesses, but if I had to choose I would be more interested in being a ruler.
Being self employed doesnt automatically means that we would really be having that job forever which there's still a certain risk that you might able to lose that job and if you dont make yourself other

back up investment or businesses then your fucked since there are no other source of income you do have unless if you do get some job directly after you've been fired or laid off.

There's no assurance or guarantees on this world even on dealing with those typical things.This is why it would be more wise and sensible if you do always set out Plan B or Plan C and so on....
That's why we are required to keep using our brains in this case, we live where when we do nothing and just stay silent then we are left behind. It's no secret when we live in an era that uses the law of the jungle but in a different version.
A backup plan still has to be done so that we don't just sit idly by on one point even though it is a good thing to do a focus in one area, but when we fail we are confused about starting over, but when there are several backup plans then we won't be too bothered with things.

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September 17, 2022, 03:40:44 PM
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The struggle between the decision of being your own boss and working under someone is becoming more difficult to make as economic situations become tougher. From evaluation around me, self proclaimed entrepreneurs are quitting entrepreneurship because of difficulty in maintaining a business and reduced sales due to reduced purchasing power from people, an effect of the economic situation. Office workers on the other hand who also have been on one salary grade for a long time now are becoming fed up with how their monthly salary is no longer sufficient to secure a comfortable lifestyle for a month also due to the higher cost of living. What do you think is the way forward?



In short, the advantages of entrepreneurship are being able to freely use ideas, flexible working hours, opening up job opportunities for those in need, and being the boss of your own business. but if you want to be an entrepreneur, of course the main requirement that you have to prepare is capital regardless of the economic crisis that hit the world.

On the other hand, office workers are generally defined as administrative, managerial, and professional work performed by a company or office. fields of work related to business management, financial accounting, to marketing.

These two categories have different plus points.
but if you become an office worker, of course you will have a fixed salary, minimal risk, regular working hours, and all things related to it.

Well, for me at this time I choose to become a worker, but if I have enough capital I will switch to being an entrepreneur.

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October 14, 2022, 10:07:31 AM
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I think it's the same. People who work controlled by others, must have pressure, because the work is piling up. And you can't just work arbitrarily. And people who have their own business, must also have pressure, as a result, for example, because there are rarely buyers. But having our own business, there is no pressure from others, we can freely manage our own business.

Well the point is, there is no easy job. All have advantages and disadvantages of each. But maybe in my opinion, there is one job that, even though it is hard, he is still happy, namely a job that is based on a hobby.

Such as actors, painters, writers, etc. But I said earlier, that all of them have their own advantages and disadvantages.
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November 07, 2022, 12:27:17 AM
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I think it's the same. People who work controlled by others, must have pressure, because the work is piling up. And you can't just work arbitrarily. And people who have their own business, must also have pressure, as a result, for example, because there are rarely buyers. But having our own business, there is no pressure from others, we can freely manage our own business.
Well the point is, there is no easy job. All have advantages and disadvantages of each. But maybe in my opinion, there is one job that, even though it is hard, he is still happy, namely a job that is based on a hobby.

Such as actors, painters, writers, etc. But I said earlier, that all of them have their own advantages and disadvantages.

You are right, they all have their advantages and disadvantages. it depends on each person.
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November 07, 2022, 12:56:45 AM
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The struggle between the decision of being your own boss and working under someone is becoming more difficult to make as economic situations become tougher. From evaluation around me, self proclaimed entrepreneurs are quitting entrepreneurship because of difficulty in maintaining a business and reduced sales due to reduced purchasing power from people, an effect of the economic situation. Office workers on the other hand who also have been on one salary grade for a long time now are becoming fed up with how their monthly salary is no longer sufficient to secure a comfortable lifestyle for a month also due to the higher cost of living. What do you think is the way forward?



In short, the advantages of entrepreneurship are being able to freely use ideas, flexible working hours, opening up job opportunities for those in need, and being the boss of your own business. but if you want to be an entrepreneur, of course the main requirement that you have to prepare is capital regardless of the economic crisis that hit the world.

On the other hand, office workers are generally defined as administrative, managerial, and professional work performed by a company or office. fields of work related to business management, financial accounting, to marketing.

These two categories have different plus points.
but if you become an office worker, of course you will have a fixed salary, minimal risk, regular working hours, and all things related to it.

Well, for me at this time I choose to become a worker, but if I have enough capital I will switch to being an entrepreneur.

Both of them are good they have their pros and cons ,office job is less risky, fixed working hours,fixed salary, other facilties and entrepreneurs or business is very risky, flexible working hours, income keeps on fluctuating too depending upon profits. But I think office job is a much safer and permanent option and it should never be left if you have any and if you want to do some business do sideways invest in small business let's wait for the results first  and if it works than think about quitting options.  


Agree, but if business will be successful then it can make you rich. As other said there is no one going to be rich in working 8 -5pm business is really the key to success. Office set up is you are really us secured that you'll be getting money, which is good for people that have a family like me so that we do have money to spend on our daily needs, but I really want to invest into business, but I am scared if it wouldn't be successful since the consequence is that ill be in debt and without money.
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I don't know if we are moving towards a economic depression. The burden of population is leading to fall in economy. We are not short of luxuries like homes or tech gadgets. We are short of essential needs. Pollution and global warming are complicating things further. I think it's time when science can only help us in fighting these desperate times and we need to shift in that direction. We need entrepreneurs with zeal to solve problems of the world, not just economic but social as well. So for me it's entrepreneurship
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Agree, but if business will be successful then it can make you rich. As other said there is no one going to be rich in working 8 -5pm business is really the key to success. Office set up is you are really us secured that you'll be getting money, which is good for people that have a family like me so that we do have money to spend on our daily needs, but I really want to invest into business, but I am scared if it wouldn't be successful since the consequence is that ill be in debt and without money.
I suggest if you want to be a smart investor never use borrowed money, because it is a very high risk for your finances, you will get a lot of problems if you use borrowed money, many investor advisors say if you want to invest use money that is safe and does not have any attachments for your needs. maybe you should read more about how to build fundamentals to become an investor.



Being self employed doesnt automatically means that we would really be having that job forever which there's still a certain risk that you might able to lose that job and if you dont make yourself other

back up investment or businesses then your fucked since there are no other source of income you do have unless if you do get some job directly after you've been fired or laid off.

There's no assurance or guarantees on this world even on dealing with those typical things.This is why it would be more wise and sensible if you do always set out Plan B or Plan C and so on....
Sometime business fail and the only option we are left with is going back to our job.
I my case - none of my business plan succeeded - maybe I am too poor at planning or maybe I am to unlucky to start my own business.
I ended up applying for the jobs again - what a poor entrepreneur me!

Usually, the entrepreneurial spirit uses failure as the most important learning material in the course of his career because he can identify the causes of failure that he experienced so as not to repeat it in the future. you should have a plan B or C to anticipate failure, even though you don't have a plan, at least bounce back and fix the mistakes. but maybe you, even more, give up and go back to your old job. and I suggest if you want to get back up, it's better not to use all of your capital but save some of it as an emergency fund for your business so that when you fall you can still get back up with confidence.

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If you have the capital, simply do a research and engage to entrepreneurship or have your own business. If you are lacking resources, you can first make your own by applying for a job, saving, then wait for that right time to do so. No need to rush; check on your circumstances and capabilities to kknow which should be prioritized. We don't have the same life so what worked for me, might not or also work for you. It always depend on factors which might affect you.
I don't know if we are moving towards a economic depression. The burden of population is leading to fall in economy. We are not short of luxuries like homes or tech gadgets. We are short of essential needs. Pollution and global warming are complicating things further. I think it's time when science can only help us in fighting these desperate times and we need to shift in that direction. We need entrepreneurs with zeal to solve problems of the world, not just economic but social as well. So for me it's entrepreneurship
Entrepreneurs are not focused with technology alone. There are industries an individual may choose from. So I guess if it is solving problems of the world, which is the issue, Entrepreneurs could indeed help but they won't be the main source of help you are looking for.

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Agree, but if business will be successful then it can make you rich. As other said there is no one going to be rich in working 8 -5pm business is really the key to success. Office set up is you are really us secured that you'll be getting money, which is good for people that have a family like me so that we do have money to spend on our daily needs, but I really want to invest into business, but I am scared if it wouldn't be successful since the consequence is that ill be in debt and without money.
I suggest if you want to be a smart investor never use borrowed money, because it is a very high risk for your finances, you will get a lot of problems if you use borrowed money, many investor advisors say if you want to invest use money that is safe and does not have any attachments for your needs. maybe you should read more about how to build fundamentals to become an investor.

The only problem is that we don't have enough money to invest in a business; if not, you really need to take out a loan to be able to invest in it, though I agree it is very risky, and you are not secured that your business will be successful. What most other advice is that if you really want to invest in a business and you need to take a loan, you should first find a job so that even if your business is unsuccessful, you still have a backup plan or you can still pay your debt, though it would be painful, at least you can still recover.
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The only problem is that we don't have enough money to invest in a business; if not, you really need to take out a loan to be able to invest in it, though I agree it is very risky, and you are not secured that your business will be successful. What most other advice is that if you really want to invest in a business and you need to take a loan, you should first find a job so that even if your business is unsuccessful, you still have a backup plan or you can still pay your debt, though it would be painful, at least you can still recover.

Not all people have a knack for business and not all people are good entrepreneurs.  We can try to establish our own business but if we don't have a knack for it even with the knowledge, it won't flourish.  But for those who are willing to try, if they have funds then do thorough research and after knowing the left and right start the business asap.  Time is essential so it is best not to waste time.  But for those who don't have the fund, you better look for a stable job, save, and save more.  Job is an assurance that we will have funds every month so we need to secure it before securing our own business in the futre.

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November 07, 2022, 09:39:16 PM
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The struggle between the decision of being your own boss and working under someone is becoming more difficult to make as economic situations become tougher. From evaluation around me, self proclaimed entrepreneurs are quitting entrepreneurship because of difficulty in maintaining a business and reduced sales due to reduced purchasing power from people, an effect of the economic situation.
Being an entrepreneurship is really challenging especially if you don't have background or experience to do it. The things like rival, actually managing your actual assets, keeping things under control are pretty difficult to do for someone is actually controlling everything. It affects both physical health and mental health to do it, it's really tiresome activities.

Office workers on the other hand who also have been on one salary grade for a long time now are becoming fed up with how their monthly salary is no longer sufficient to secure a comfortable lifestyle for a month also due to the higher cost of living. What do you think is the way forward?
This one just depends on where you live and how do you manage the salary to be actually sufficient for the entire month. In here, working on office does give you quite decent of money and with the proportion of the lifestyle in here, they could definitely buy something luxury in few months if they are saving it up. It's not the same for every place though.

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I've been an entrepreneur my whole life. Started my own buckwheat shop at the sales when I was 8 years old. Buckwheat as an industry is derived from the fact that my father is a known farmer in my local area.
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The struggle between the decision of being your own boss and working under someone is becoming more difficult to make as economic situations become tougher. From evaluation around me, self proclaimed entrepreneurs are quitting entrepreneurship because of difficulty in maintaining a business and reduced sales due to reduced purchasing power from people, an effect of the economic situation. Office workers on the other hand who also have been on one salary grade for a long time now are becoming fed up with how their monthly salary is no longer sufficient to secure a comfortable lifestyle for a month also due to the higher cost of living. What do you think is the way forward?


if that's the case, I choose to stay temporarily in my comfort zone, or work in someone else's company first.

because the current economic situation is very difficult for entrepreneurship, especially small entrepreneurs.
for the time being I prefer to work first to continue to survive and look for new innovations for entrepreneurship again in the future.

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Agree, but if business will be successful then it can make you rich. As other said there is no one going to be rich in working 8 -5pm business is really the key to success. Office set up is you are really us secured that you'll be getting money, which is good for people that have a family like me so that we do have money to spend on our daily needs, but I really want to invest into business, but I am scared if it wouldn't be successful since the consequence is that ill be in debt and without money.
I suggest if you want to be a smart investor never use borrowed money, because it is a very high risk for your finances, you will get a lot of problems if you use borrowed money, many investor advisors say if you want to invest use money that is safe and does not have any attachments for your needs. maybe you should read more about how to build fundamentals to become an investor.

The only problem is that we don't have enough money to invest in a business; if not, you really need to take out a loan to be able to invest in it, though I agree it is very risky, and you are not secured that your business will be successful. What most other advice is that if you really want to invest in a business and you need to take a loan, you should first find a job so that even if your business is unsuccessful, you still have a backup plan or you can still pay your debt, though it would be painful, at least you can still recover.

If you don't have the capital to invest in an asset or company, don't force yourself to borrow, especially if you don't understand the investment world and have a gambler's mindset because it will destroy your portfolio. whether you are a worker or an entrepreneur or even an investor will never succeed if you use the mindset of a gambler. although the presentation of success is there but it is very small.
And it is true that when a person starts a business there will be no guarantee that he will succeed, but in my opinion, there is someone who can guarantee his success, namely himself. someone who has confidence in his abilities will always be confident and work smart in every hard work. neither worker nor entrepreneur no one guarantees success in any profession except himself.

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The struggle between the decision of being your own boss and working under someone is becoming more difficult to make as economic situations become tougher. From evaluation around me, self proclaimed entrepreneurs are quitting entrepreneurship because of difficulty in maintaining a business and reduced sales due to reduced purchasing power from people, an effect of the economic situation. Office workers on the other hand who also have been on one salary grade for a long time now are becoming fed up with how their monthly salary is no longer sufficient to secure a comfortable lifestyle for a month also due to the higher cost of living. What do you think is the way forward?


it is undeniable that many bankrupt entrepreneurs and workers in promising places can no longer maintain their sources of livelihood because they are laid off, not even a few of the middle class become poor and unemployed, and not even a few sell their houses to meet the needs of their families.
This is a very difficult case to solve, and many governments in any country are looking for a solution to this.
again this is correlated with inflation which causes purchasing power to decrease in line with rising commodity prices.
I think if you have the ability as a creative and innovative content creator or something else on social media, I think it's quite relevant today.
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Everything feels more difficult when a person works for a salary in someone else's business, not in his own business. For example; no one wants to do it when they are asked to do a little more work than they should. Apart from this, he may also be lazy to do work during normal working time. Efficiency decreases when there is no desire to work.
But this is not the case when people do their own thing. They will do everything in their power to earn more money. They can overwork every day and not be bothered by it. That's why doing your own business is an opportunity to earn more money.

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