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August 31, 2022, 02:30:02 AM
 #141

For every gambling platform asking kyc is not a bad things, it is their rules and policy where the players or gamblers
should abide it. Especially if the platform is legitimate in this business industry. Although, I never try to play in the Duelbits,
but according to my research it is one of the legit gambling platform here in the cryptocurrency.

Moreover, I think you have a also a bad history and record in spreading FUD about the casino platform
according to your negative trust in which was given by Sir@yahoo where one of the reputable Bounty Managers
here in the forum.

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September 02, 2022, 12:53:55 AM
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

The fact that KYC means disclosing some of our important information then maybe some gamblers tend to refuse to do KYC. But this is the trend now, even the most reputable gambling casinos have already required KYC, so it’s up to us if we will still gamble on their sites or not. However, the OP might have misunderstood Duelbits rules and policies and so he is not in favor in it. But for most of the gamblers here, even myself, I find Duelbits just fine to gamble.

Obviously Duelbits is a great casino to play at, but which casino does not require KYC and is trustworthy? which one? If along the way you may run into a casino that says that they do not have or require the KYC, but that they can ask for the KYC when it is to withdraw, and it may happen that when they comply with the KYC they do not approve it and do not give the money.

In Duelbits things are more transparent, the KYC is soft, it is not as aggressive as in other sites, if a person has problems with the KYC it is because they must send it properly, be as sincere as possible, if there is this type of care, no there must be some problem.

When a casino determines that there are problems in the KYC it is because there is something strange and that is what they let you know.

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September 02, 2022, 01:32:32 AM
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KYC is most of the time required if there's something suspicious happening with your account like making a deposit and immediately withdrawing by that most of the time ask for the KYC of the users to make sure they are not a bot, but based on the reputation tag with your account you become known in playing gambling casino without reading their terms and condition at the same time their FaQs before playing i guess it is your mistake. Duelbits here are one of the known reputable gambling platforms and I guess why not contact them with your issue.

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September 02, 2022, 08:43:03 PM
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

hey OP , it 's natural for a casino to ask for KYC , moreover KYC is only basic not in detail like an exchange , are you too lazy to read the rules before you enter a casino ?

I am just tired of everybody repeating the same statement over and over again for a thousand times that O.P was too lazy to read all the rules before registering for a casino. But to be frankly speaking, how many gamblers this day read the entire "Terms and conditions" of a casino before registering an account? Because I'm sure only 1% or 2% or even non does that. I guess what O.P did was that he  refuse to check for the most required features needed for his choice of casino before, "No KYC" before proceeding to fund and play, and later when trying to withdraw, came to find out that he needed KYC, which he never opted for.
Which is a lesson to any one trying to gamble, to check if a casino has your taste of features before proceeding
That is why there are terms and conditions at the start and if you agree with it, then there’s no reason to question the casino later on because it was already assumed that you have understood already in the first place. And when it comes to KYC, it’s already happening in most of the reliable casinos so always expect that if you wish to withdraw your funds. Otherwise, OP is just being unrealistic and definitely just ruining the good  reputation of the casino.

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September 08, 2022, 04:08:53 PM
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.


Yes, in seo it is a strategy to attract more users, it is something normal, I do not blame them, but there is something that we all must understand, it is that for anything they will require that you have KYC, in any casino it is almost a rule to have it, you can play in a casino without KYC, but I am sure that at some point they will require KYC and there are some casinos that, in order to finish hooking, almost make a KYC mandatory when making a withdrawal of funds, because it practices the player it's meant to provide your details, because if you win, you don't want to leave your funds in the casino and yeah, that's something I've seen in some casinos, not all.

DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

hey OP , it 's natural for a casino to ask for KYC , moreover KYC is only basic not in detail like an exchange , are you too lazy to read the rules before you enter a casino ?

I am just tired of everybody repeating the same statement over and over again for a thousand times that O.P was too lazy to read all the rules before registering for a casino. But to be frankly speaking, how many gamblers this day read the entire "Terms and conditions" of a casino before registering an account? Because I'm sure only 1% or 2% or even non does that. I guess what O.P did was that he  refuse to check for the most required features needed for his choice of casino before, "No KYC" before proceeding to fund and play, and later when trying to withdraw, came to find out that he needed KYC, which he never opted for.
Which is a lesson to any one trying to gamble, to check if a casino has your taste of features before proceeding
That is why there are terms and conditions at the start and if you agree with it, then there’s no reason to question the casino later on because it was already assumed that you have understood already in the first place. And when it comes to KYC, it’s already happening in most of the reliable casinos so always expect that if you wish to withdraw your funds. Otherwise, OP is just being unrealistic and definitely just ruining the good  reputation of the casino.

Well, we have to be aware of this type of thing, normally most of us do not read the terms and conditions when we register at a casino, we only register, deposit, take the bonus and that's it, sometimes the official registration makes everyone Let's stay in tune enjoying ourselves, but at the time of withdrawing money is when there are problems, some with the KYC, others that still do not meet the initial wager or conditions, for this the KYC is as they say, in almost all casinos they are applying this regulation, KYC must be done in order to have access to all the benefits of the casino, this is almost a general regulation for everyone, we have witnessed that this type of discussion is more focused on the Reputation part and this means that it can generate more debate, but in general terms, KYC is something that we should get used to because that is how most platforms will be.

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September 16, 2022, 09:16:30 PM
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

Most likely this is just another misinterpretation by the gambler itself to the rule of the casino. I know how reputable duelbits is so somehow, i won't agree with what OP says. As a gambler, i know KYC can be somewhat annoying but this is not new to us anymore as most of the reputable casinos these days always require KYC once you decide to withraw your funds.

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September 18, 2022, 01:06:56 PM
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

hey OP , it 's natural for a casino to ask for KYC , moreover KYC is only basic not in detail like an exchange , are you too lazy to read the rules before you enter a casino ?

I am just tired of everybody repeating the same statement over and over again for a thousand times that O.P was too lazy to read all the rules before registering for a casino. But to be frankly speaking, how many gamblers this day read the entire "Terms and conditions" of a casino before registering an account? Because I'm sure only 1% or 2% or even non does that. I guess what O.P did was that he  refuse to check for the most required features needed for his choice of casino before, "No KYC" before proceeding to fund and play, and later when trying to withdraw, came to find out that he needed KYC, which he never opted for.
Which is a lesson to any one trying to gamble, to check if a casino has your taste of features before proceeding
That is why there are terms and conditions at the start and if you agree with it, then there’s no reason to question the casino later on because it was already assumed that you have understood already in the first place. And when it comes to KYC, it’s already happening in most of the reliable casinos so always expect that if you wish to withdraw your funds. Otherwise, OP is just being unrealistic and definitely just ruining the good  reputation of the casino.
I used to be a player who didn't even read the terms and conditions at the casino registration, it just didn't stop him, he gave him accept and that's it, but when there are casinos in particular that say NO KYC, if I stop to read, although it is a bit tedious I rule out two things, the first is the lack of a specific license, which is always what causes them not to ask for KYC. The other thing I rule out is that when withdrawing the money they do not ask for KYC, because there are people who are usually very sensitive about this part, they deposit play and want to withdraw, and they cannot do so until they pass a KYC, for these things they are able to open a thread in Reputation and with all reason, it is understandable.

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September 18, 2022, 01:30:54 PM
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The problem with OP is that he/she does not care about the policy and T&C of the casino. What OP wants to get is the money won. I am also now curious why he/she is so unhappy to pass KYC. I am assuming that the won amount might have gotten by using some tactics which might violate the policy of the casino. This has to stop! Creating such a topic without any evidence should be deleted by the moderators.

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September 18, 2022, 01:49:22 PM
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

What else can I tell you besides the negative trust given to you by Sir @yahoo, although I have not tried to play on duelbits, I have been seeing this campaign running well here on the forum for a long time under the supervision of one of the respected bounty manager Sir @Hampuz, this campaign has been running here for 2 years, and you seem to be the only one who has complained about it?

we gamblers who like to gamble in crypto, we must know our obligation before we enter crypto gambling, asking us for KYC of crypto gambling is the right of the owner of the gambling to the gamblers. That's why it looks like you ignored it and didn't follow it, but now you're doing something bad about duelbits because you feel cheated and tricked by duelbits.

I hope that before you take such a step, you first think about what the return of what you are doing will be. I hope this will also be a lesson for you.


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I used to be a player who didn't even read the terms and conditions at the casino registration, it just didn't stop him, he gave him accept and that's it, but when there are casinos in particular that say NO KYC, if I stop to read, although it is a bit tedious I rule out two things, the first is the lack of a specific license, which is always what causes them not to ask for KYC. The other thing I rule out is that when withdrawing the money they do not ask for KYC, because there are people who are usually very sensitive about this part, they deposit play and want to withdraw, and they cannot do so until they pass a KYC, for these things they are able to open a thread in Reputation and with all reason, it is understandable.
And now you changed and read every TOS you came across with? That's great. Sometimes all what we need is time because once we have it, we will take things slowly and we will read even the long text that are written in every casino's TOS.

I like that part where you double check things like checking if the casino has no license right after they claim that they don't require a KYC because if they have it then there is a big chance that they are only lying but will require their users a KYC later on. If ever they did that then yeah it's appropriate to make a thread on here and file a complaint about it so that the casino will get flagged and users are going to be aware of it.

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KYC is part of the process. I'm sure things are written about that in the terms and conditions. You better not make so much trouble about that. What's wrong with just joining the KYC requirements? I think every gambler these days is well aware that a KYC is more or less required on certain activities on a gambling site. I also think that the site is fully within its rights. It can be annoying, but of course everything is always stated in the general terms and conditions. Once the KYC has been submitted, the site will proceed to pay out I presume.

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September 18, 2022, 09:43:35 PM
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The problem with OP is that he/she does not care about the policy and T&C of the casino. What OP wants to get is the money won. I am also now curious why he/she is so unhappy to pass KYC. I am assuming that the won amount might have gotten by using some tactics which might violate the policy of the casino.

not all people feel comfortable handing documents to strangers on the internet, did you know that they can take your documents and commit crimes and you are guilty of crimes you didn't commit and it's all because of someone from the anonymous site where you did KYC and Did he sell your documents to a criminal? This KYC issue is a very serious matter where customers do not have any guarantees that they are delivering documents to trusted people and that they are not anonymous so there is some government that inspects that documents that people deliver are being well guarded. Another issue also has to do with the proof of residence document, not all people can have these documents because they may be living in the house of parents, uncles, and other relatives and in KYC the person needs to deliver proof of residence document on behalf of the person who created the account. By this I mean that not all people who oppose KYC are because they committed acts that break TOS

This has to stop! Creating such a topic without any evidence should be deleted by the moderators.

he's expressing a concern, not a scam accusation per se, so I don't see any reason to delete his thread.

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September 18, 2022, 09:52:59 PM
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And now you changed and read every TOS you came across with? That's great. Sometimes all what we need is time because once we have it, we will take things slowly and we will read even the long text that are written in every casino's TOS.

I like that part where you double check things like checking if the casino has no license right after they claim that they don't require a KYC because if they have it then there is a big chance that they are only lying but will require their users a KYC later on. If ever they did that then yeah it's appropriate to make a thread on here and file a complaint about it so that the casino will get flagged and users are going to be aware of it.
Sometimes we have to review every terms and conditions because they have been changed/added without our knowledge, for example previously no casino asked for KYC verification before the casino complied with regulatory authorities, but after the new rules were implemented there was no announcement to the community before gamblers knew about it during withdrawal.

Regarding reports on reputation, certainty must be considered first because if only KYC issues cannot be disputed because they are bound by regulations with authorities, so ready or not then you have to accept the consequences for KYC requests in the future, because of the risk of joining a centralized casino.

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September 18, 2022, 10:58:30 PM
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not all people feel comfortable handing documents to strangers on the internet, did you know that they can take your documents and commit crimes and you are guilty of crimes you didn't commit and it's all because of someone from the anonymous site where you did KYC and Did he sell your documents to a criminal?
Yes, they can do that and there is also the risk of their database getting hacked and your personal information/documents getting leaked all over the Internet. But why would you send your documents to an anonymous company in first place! You should pass kyc only on trusted casinos with good security measures. You are going to send your money after all, so à minimum of trust is needed.

Sometimes we have to review every terms and conditions because they have been changed/added without our knowledge, for example previously no casino asked for KYC verification before the casino complied with regulatory authorities, but after the new rules were implemented there was no announcement to the community before gamblers knew about it during withdrawal.
Any reputable casino, or business in general, will notify its customers about any change in their ToS before those changes take effect (usually no less than a week).

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September 30, 2022, 02:18:44 AM
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

Most likely this is just another misinterpretation by the gambler itself to the rule of the casino. I know how reputable duelbits is so somehow, i won't agree with what OP says. As a gambler, i know KYC can be somewhat annoying but this is not new to us anymore as most of the reputable casinos these days always require KYC once you decide to withraw your funds.

Well, this is something that nobody likes, complying with a KYC is synonymous with something that always slows us down, either because we don't like to give out the data, because of the problem that we don't want leaked data or things that happen with our data, but as many have said, privacy and anonymity is a right but in these times that will end, and one of the things that casino sites can do everything legal is to require KYC to be able to have legality and authenticity due to that many licenses require it, and the most important thing for a site is to have everything within the framework of the law, and although KYC does not guarantee security, they are the protocols that must currently be followed in all casinos.

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October 08, 2022, 06:51:22 PM
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It is mentioned in their Terms that they may require additional user information. Last part under the "User Account"
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We may ask for additional Information according to our AML/KYC Policy for KYC purposes or for legal purposes (Money laundering prevention).
https://duelbits.com/tos

Asking KYC is pretty common among online casinos now and yes most of them asked upon withdrawal. I remember a representative saying they do not have time to review every account that registers. They only flag users with "unusual" betting behavior or those that wins big in most cases. Your case is probably either of the two.
Is it not possible to use decentralized betting platforms to avoid blocking and verification? In my opinion, in our progressive time, this is the best option
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October 09, 2022, 07:49:57 AM
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

Most likely this is just another misinterpretation by the gambler itself to the rule of the casino. I know how reputable duelbits is so somehow, i won't agree with what OP says. As a gambler, i know KYC can be somewhat annoying but this is not new to us anymore as most of the reputable casinos these days always require KYC once you decide to withraw your funds.

Well, this is something that nobody likes, complying with a KYC is synonymous with something that always slows us down, either because we don't like to give out the data, because of the problem that we don't want leaked data or things that happen with our data, but as many have said, privacy and anonymity is a right but in these times that will end, and one of the things that casino sites can do everything legal is to require KYC to be able to have legality and authenticity due to that many licenses require it, and the most important thing for a site is to have everything within the framework of the law, and although KYC does not guarantee security, they are the protocols that must currently be followed in all casinos.

for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data

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October 09, 2022, 05:41:19 PM
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It is mentioned in their Terms that they may require additional user information. Last part under the "User Account"
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We may ask for additional Information according to our AML/KYC Policy for KYC purposes or for legal purposes (Money laundering prevention).
https://duelbits.com/tos

Asking KYC is pretty common among online casinos now and yes most of them asked upon withdrawal. I remember a representative saying they do not have time to review every account that registers. They only flag users with "unusual" betting behavior or those that wins big in most cases. Your case is probably either of the two.
Is it not possible to use decentralized betting platforms to avoid blocking and verification? In my opinion, in our progressive time, this is the best option
It is possible, but i don`t see any decentralized platform with the high quality services. The same time who want to create such platform for free, who would support it? If we`d pay someone - it willn`t be decentralized. If it will be decentralized - we lose the quality and support. I don`t think that it is possible to get free decentralized betting platform with the high quality now, may be several years later smth will change.

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October 09, 2022, 06:34:45 PM
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We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.

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October 09, 2022, 08:19:40 PM
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We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.
I know that for the people that have been part of the market for a long time this is not something they like at all as they would like to keep using centralized services without having to identify themselves, but those days are over, the more this market grows the more attention it receives from the governments and the more they want to regulate it, so people need to get used to this and if they want to retain some level of privacy they have no other option but to use decentralized services.

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