Appeal Mia_houston

[Mia_houston123]

I'm Mia_houston. I want to an appeal for this account because today my account was banned due to allegations of ban evasion related to the rindo account. Please reconsider the evidence reported.

Link profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=814560

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[Solosanz]

I looked on your main account, there's no topic created by you and you didn't contributed anything except creating a common replies on gambling section. I don't think any moderators will accept your appeal to consider temporary banned on your account.

Edit:

This was report about your ban evasion. Perhaps you should start by explaining why the involved accounts used the same Twitter profile links and username. I don't think it was just a mistake

Before that, someone already report him but one of the moderator didn't ban him because mia_houston use the address earlier than rindo, but in this case it's different where rindo use the telegram before mia_houston.

Can any one of you explain to me why any of these users are not banned even though the evidence I have found is valid enough to say they are alt? mia_houston and rindo are alt based on the wallet they used before, rindo has been banned while mia_houston is still active until now. Are there any special considerations why one of these accounts is not banned?

Ban Evasion, please review this catch.

Well, if some of you find a lot of newbie or other low ranking members doing ban evasion, then this time I found a hero member who did it. Maybe the mod or admin needs to check the evidence I showed before ban the second account that is still actively posting.

1. rindo ^[Archived]
2. mia_houston

Proof:

1. Username : rindo
2. Rank : Hero Member
3. Number of Post : 2299
4. Bitcoin address : 15AsNqvY5zKxwFFpuQy2e9hTFzM7umyun9

Btctalk name : mia_houston
Rank : Full member
Post count : 147
Btc address : 15AsNqvY5zKxwFFpuQy2e9hTFzM7umyun9
Wear sig code : Yes

The above two accounts used the same wallet to join different campaign in the past.

Code:

15AsNqvY5zKxwFFpuQy2e9hTFzM7umyun9

Because in your example, mia_houston used the address earlier than rindo. If were the other way around, then we could talk about ban evasion. Plus, the mia_houston post you refer to in your example has been deleted.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

This was report about your ban evasion. Perhaps you should start by explaining why the involved accounts used the same Twitter profile links and username. I don't think it was just a mistake

Reporting ban evasion

rindo    Autobanned user
mia_houston    Active
wrokefoke101D    Inactive


Proof:

https://twitter.com/ahmadriduan14

Followed retweeted tweeted https://twitter.com/ahmadriduan14 [ahmadriduan14]

Archived


spreadsheet link

username : hokin

username: hokin

Related Addresses:

Code:

username : hokin
https://twitter.com/ahmadriduan14

25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e]

[Rizzrack]

Also:

username : rindo
rank : Hero member
Current post : 2258
BTC address  : 15AsNqvY5zKxwFFpuQy2e9hTFzM7umyun9

Denied

Btctalk name : mia_houston
Rank : Full member
Post count : 147
Btc address : 15AsNqvY5zKxwFFpuQy2e9hTFzM7umyun9
Wear sig code : Yes

[Upgrade00]

There should be an email address in the ban message you received on your main account.
If you have any proof as to why you are not related to the account linked to Mia_houston. Although, with the evidence provided, there's very little chance of the account getting unbanned.

[Xal0lex]

Also:

Honestly, I didn't expect this from you. Well, you should know about it In your example, mia_houston published the address much earlier than rindo did. That's why your example doesn't fit. If it were the other way around, then we could talk about ban evasion.

[_BlackStar]

Honestly, I didn't expect this from you. Well, you should know about it In your example, mia_houston published the address much earlier than rindo did. That's why your example doesn't fit. If it were the other way around, then we could talk about ban evasion.

I had reported it last December but after I got your explanation then I forgot about the case and it was lucky enough for mia_houston. But this time, the rhomelmabini got a good catch, very clear evidence that they were ban evasion. Rindo posted a Twitter profile in 2015 ^{[she/ he was banned]} and was then followed by mia_houston in 2016. If in Deember mia_houston was acquitted, then this time it seems not.

Please reconsider the evidence reported.

However you have violated the rules on evasion of ban, and as a old user you should know how these rules are enforced. IMO, your odds are not good, this appeal is probably pointless.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Also:

Honestly, I didn't expect this from you. Well, you should know about it In your example, mia_houston published the address much earlier than rindo did. That's why your example doesn't fit. If it were the other way around, then we could talk about ban evasion.

But it still does help to show that the accounts are linked. If it's one case of both accounts publishing the same address, maybe it could just be considered a coincidence or a POA copy-paste mistake gone wrong but if there are many instances then it strengthens the linkage between the accounts.

[tranthidung]

I'm Mia_houston. I want to an appeal for this account because today my account was banned due to allegations of ban evasion related to the rindo account.

If it is a ban evasion from rindo account, you should start with the account you was banned, not with Mia_houston. If the rindo account was not be given a second chance, Mia_houston will still be banned.

Please reconsider the evidence reported.

If you make a ban appeal, you should provide evidence of your contribution, to show good net effects for unban. You did not include evidence in this thread.

Autoban for rindo account means chance for it is extremely low but autoban does not mean automatically banned by bot.

[FatFork]

I'm Mia_houston. I want to an appeal for this account because today my account was banned due to allegations of ban evasion related to the rindo account.

If it is a ban evasion from rindo account, you should start with the account you was banned, not with Mia_houston. If the rindo account was not be given a second chance, Mia_houston will still be banned.

I think she wants us to reconsider the evidence linking her and the "rindo" account. So she did not appeal to the ban of the rindo account, but to the allegation of her ban evading.
But I agree that she should explain her case better and shed light on the evidence that ties the two accounts together.

[Mia_houston123]

I have never cheated in any campaign, I don't know why Rindo was able to use my address and to be honest at that time I was very upset because it was my old Indodax (Bitcoin.co.id) wallet when I first got to know cryptocurency, to be honest, he's someone who first introduced me to crypto and this forum and it can be said that the two of us are indeed friends, but unfortunately now he has retired and is more focused on real work after he became a teacher, and when I tried to apply for a campaign frankly I doesn't have twitter at all and uses rindo twitter without his knowledge when we were sitting together, but when he found out I was using that twitter he got angry and said for not  use it anymore and that's why if you trace I use of twiterr  only once, if indeed it is my twitter instead, of course you will find use only more than once?
Previously I didn't really understand the forum rules that were so strict and after all the rules I understood I never did it again, I am very aware that this mistake will be a reference for other people to judge me, but actually I have deleted it so that people don't get it wrong understand my ignorance previously and also before someone exposed it but unfortunately ninjastic kept it for a long time, besides I think all the accusations that were leveled against me are not valid evidence anymore after the incident around 2015 and 2016 and that's why I ventured to appeal

[Solosanz]

but actually I have deleted it so that people don't get it wrong understand my ignorance previously and also before someone exposed it but unfortunately ninjastic kept it for a long time

Are you blame to ninjastic.space?
Actually your purpose to delete your post are to hide your mistake, not to make people don't get it wrong. If you're genuine user who did wrong and never cheat, why you're not creating a thread on Reputation section and tell if you're using your friend twitter account by mistake?

I don't believe any excuse when someone got exposed since it's just a fake stories, period.

besides I think all the accusations that were leveled against me are not valid evidence anymore after the incident around 2015 and 2016 and that's why I ventured to appeal

Nah, all rules are still exist and everyone can get same a punishment as long as they're broke it. It doesn't matter when your mistake happen.

[Mia_houston123]

I never hide my mistakes, if I want to hide my mistakes of course I will ask rindo to deactivate the twitter or change the username, but do you see the that twitter is gone, no isn't it??
After the mistakes, rindo and I no longer use the twitter and you can see if the twitter is no longer used. mistakes are mistakes but do they deserve to be faced with severe punishment or banned because accidentally?
Unless you find stronger evidence than just the accidental use of twitter just once. I will not argue and accept punishment if I am indeed involved with fraud but of course with stronger evidence such as transactions or other things called fraud, but this is just an accident, have you never made a mistake without intention in your life?
It's up to you to think, you believe it or not but that's the truth, I also won't force you to believe it, because from some of your posts, I see if you are not someone who has faith in other people even though they give the real explanation.

[Xal0lex]

mia_houston, are you a sports journalist? Or did you translate your posts on sports from somewhere on the Internet? Just for a woman to know so much about soccer is amazing I've met very few women in my life who know soccer so well. And to make comments like that... That's extraordinary. Admit it, did you write your own posts or did you plagiarize them somewhere? Your account has been banned anyway and is unlikely to be unbanned. So your confession won't change anything. Moreover, I found a little plagiarism from you anyway

[decodx]

Unless you find stronger evidence than just the accidental use of twitter just once.

So you "accidentally" used his twitter and he "accidentally" used your BTC address? Five times? That's a lot of accidents! As they say, "Once is chance, twice is coincidence..." How many times is a pattern?
And, we don't need any stronger evidence because, apparently, this was enough for the moderators to ban your account.

I also won't force you to believe it, because from some of your posts, I see if you are not someone who has faith in other people even though they give the real explanation.

We have heard such excuses so many times before. No one believes in them anymore, so it's not just him.

[_BlackStar]

I hope any answers and questions that users in this thread to ask mia_houston don't influence the moderator's decision to ban any users especially mia_houston. Moderators should nevertheless defend their interpretations wisely based on the evidence reported, and for everyone here may know that criticism, ridicule, and anything else criticizing mia_houston for her wrongdoing really can't change the moderator's decision to increase the duration of the ban, reduce it or keep it forever. So this really doesn't improve anything, and I think it's a moderator's area though we can share some opinions.

I chose to remain silent and see how he resolved it because it would be wise to let him explain the problem even though we don't really believe it. Can't believe it's each other's perspective, but I don't think we need to express it.

[Mia_houston123]

mia_houston, are you a sports journalist? Or did you translate your posts on sports from somewhere on the Internet? Just for a woman to know so much about soccer is amazing I've met very few women in my life who know soccer so well.

I'm not a journalist, but since I was little I lived in a sports environment, especially football, but wait.., I hope you won't try to say that women are forbidden to know more things, especially sports or football than men, I don't know where you live but I think that in today modern era, sport or football is no longer owned by men but it is already a plural sport that even women are no less powerful than men, when a woman can be an athlete, a politician and even a president, then why when women know more about the world of football actually doubt you?

So you "accidentally" used his twitter and he "accidentally" used your BTC address? Five times? That's a lot of accidents! As they say, "Once is chance, twice is coincidence..." How many times is a pattern?

Do I have to keep repeating every statement I make to you?
As an account investigator of course you know how cheating can happen, can you tell me the real reason rindo was banned from the forum, and why didn't he appeal ?
the offense he committed at that time was not due to the use of the my old wallet but another mistake which I also don't know the reason for, but, after he retired because he had got a job as a teacher, I once contacted him and he say told me if he no longer had control of the account and I don't know why but what is certain is that the account has been controlled by someone else since December 2017, as seen in this archive https://archive.is/ga0y5

You can ask members from Indonesia here, when in 2015 in Indonesia cryptocurrencies were not this big and if I'm not mistaken, Indonesia only had one truly trusted exchange at that time that supported bitcoin/IDR exchanges, namely bitcoin.co. id which has now changed its name to indodax, each indodax registration can only use one id, namely an ID card, sim, or passport, whereas at that time we did not have a sim or passport to register the indodax account, so when he used the wallet it made me very angry but finally I no longer use the wallet and prefer to make a wallet from several gambling sites, you can ask @black_star (because he was the first to investigate the use of the wallet), did he find my use of the wallet again after it was used by someone else or he finds a transaction link between the my old wallet and my new wallet that was used afterwards?
Because it was due to the limitations of the wallet registration method and also the exchange at that time in my country so I handed the wallet to him and if I'm not mistaken I was still a Full member rank at that time, because it time was easy to increase the rank of course I didn't think too much and  I ever thought about not continuing to build a mia_houston account, but because this is my first account, of course it's a shame to throw it away, but I really don't think the problem will be as complicated as it is now.

I hope any answers and questions that users in this thread to ask mia_houston don't influence the moderator's decision to ban any users especially mia_houston. Moderators should nevertheless defend their interpretations wisely based on the evidence reported, and for everyone here may know that criticism, ridicule, and anything else criticizing mia_houston for her wrongdoing really can't change the moderator's decision to increase the duration of the ban, reduce it or keep it forever. So this really doesn't improve anything, and I think it's a moderator's area though we can share some opinions.

I really respect you for the knowledge you have, and I hope you can be fair to anyone regardless of whether you like the person or not, because you are now a DT and as a DT you have to be fair and not just drown someone with mistakes  with not have absolutely solid evidence as you did some time ago, so to give rise to the notion that you are abusing trust.
I don't care about the number of accusations, or even ridicule from other people as long as they can't provide stronger evidence against me because it's based on the presumption of innocence and I hope the moderators can act fairly and also wisely in making decisions taking into account every accuracy evidence and defense that I do, because after all the moderator is someone we respect here and if I'm guilty of course I won't appeal because many say my chances are small, because actually there are a lot of people who might not appeal just because they have a chance small, but I don't want to be a desperate person because in any case, it's certainly not justified for someone to get a sentence without stronger evidence.

I also hope that the moderators will be very wise in making decisions based on the principle of justice and also stick to the principle of the presumption of innocence in deciding whether someone is guilty or not.
I also hope that the members here don't have to immediately convict someone without providing strong enough evidence to declare him guilty, or even directly judge the person based on arguments even without solid evidence just to appear active in the forum and also based on other  because people reports that indeed all this time he had a routine to report other people and we all immediately believed him because he did have the power over the trust given by the forum to him.
I hope that we are all wise in seeing every perspective that exists because indeed we are human beings who do not escape from forget and mistakes by accident.

[decodx]

So you "accidentally" used his twitter and he "accidentally" used your BTC address? Five times? That's a lot of accidents! As they say, "Once is chance, twice is coincidence..." How many times is a pattern?

Do I have to keep repeating every statement I make to you?

Of course you don't have to. It's your choice.

As an account investigator of course you know how cheating can happen, can you tell me the real reason rindo was banned from the forum, and why didn't he appeal ?

I don't see the relevance of that in this case. I presume you didn't appeal because you had other accounts on the forum, which has now been proven.

I once contacted him and he say told me if he no longer had control of the account and I don't know why but what is certain is that the account has been controlled by someone else since December 2017, as seen in this archive https://archive.is/ga0y5

That's a lie. There is no record of changing the email address or password on that account in the Security Log: https://bpip.org/Profile?p=rindo
At the very least make sure there is some valid evidence to back up your bullshit story. Besides, that thread only proves that you cheated in the MOVEMENT bounty campaign with a fake Portuguese translation of their ANN. There is no evidence to support that the rindo account was hacked.

You can ask members from Indonesia here, when in 2015 in Indonesia cryptocurrencies were not this big and if I'm not mistaken, Indonesia only had one truly trusted exchange at that time that supported bitcoin/IDR exchanges, namely bitcoin.co. id which has now changed its name to indodax, each indodax registration can only use one id, namely an ID card, sim, or passport, whereas at that time we did not have a sim or passport to register the indodax account,

You expect us to believe that he couldn't create an account at the indodax exchange because he didn't have an ID card, so he used your account? How is that possible? Especially considering that he was supposedly your "mentor" who introduced you to the world of Bitcoin. As far as I know, a valid ID card is a legal requirement in Indonesia upon reaching the age of 17.

Because it was due to the limitations of the wallet registration method and also the exchange at that time in my country so I handed the wallet to him

Although you previously claimed, I quote: "I don't know why Rindo was able to use my address and to be honest at that time I was very upset...", now you say you handed him the wallet? Which one is true?

and if I'm not mistaken I was still a Full member rank at that time, because it time was easy to increase the rank of course I didn't think too much and  I ever thought about not continuing to build a mia_houston account, but because this is my first account, of course it's a shame to throw it away, but I really don't think the problem will be as complicated as it is now.

So this was your first account? Of how many?  

[Mia_houston123]

You expect us to believe that he couldn't create an account at the indodax exchange because he didn't have an ID card, so he used your account? How is that possible? Especially considering that he was supposedly your "mentor" who introduced you to the world of Bitcoin. As far as I know, a valid ID card is a legal requirement in Indonesia upon reaching the age of 17.

Didn't I say that he has used my indodax wallet?
after I found out he was using the wallet then I gave the wallet completely to him, did I ever say he didn't have an ID card or other wallet, try to understand what I said well?
when he used the my wallet off course  I say that in the end I gave it to him because if I use it again of course the problem will be more complicated from now.

[Xal0lex]

mia_houston, are you a sports journalist? Or did you translate your posts on sports from somewhere on the Internet? Just for a woman to know so much about soccer is amazing I've met very few women in my life who know soccer so well.

I'm not a journalist, but since I was little I lived in a sports environment, especially football, but wait.., I hope you won't try to say that women are forbidden to know more things, especially sports or football than men, I don't know where you live but I think that in today modern era, sport or football is no longer owned by men but it is already a plural sport that even women are no less powerful than men, when a woman can be an athlete, a politician and even a president, then why when women know more about the world of football actually doubt you?

Oh my God, what the hell are you talking about? Where in my words have you found a manifestation of misogyny? All I said was that I've hardly ever met a woman who knows soccer that well. That's all I said. And you just jumped all over me... With views like yours, I don't see the point in continuing the conversation.