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August 09, 2022, 11:02:21 PM
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Looking at the scenario (countries) in the world that against the adoption of bitcoin. I am thinking that countries are deliberately stop using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies or banning them base on their neighbour countries foreign policies. Because the way I look at it, if their neighbour adopt bitcoin and make or generate a massive GDP from the butcoin and used it to developed the country to a standard level, where employment is guaranty in the country. I dont think the neighnour countries would reject the adoption plan of bitcoin, Let take Nigeria and her neighbours as an example. . Now if Nigeria adopt Bitcoin and make great income from it and used it to develop the country to the world standard. Would Ghana, Cameroun, Niger and Chad and other nearby neighbours of Nigeria will reject the use of Bitcoin? Now, on my own, since Bitcoin is a decentralized system which is out of authority control and that make them to reject bitcoin  by banning. Once they follow their foreign policies to ban bitcoin, then it become class conspiracy,

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August 09, 2022, 11:48:18 PM
Last edit: August 10, 2022, 12:05:49 AM by Fivestar4everMVP
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You indeed have a point, but your believe that Bitcoin isn't being adopted by countries, because their neighboring countries have not adopted it has a very very small insignificant percentage to add to why Bitcoin's adoption is slow.
Let's take El Salvador as a reference, El Salvador is the first country to legitimize Bitcoin and made it a legal tender, I believe El Salvador have neighboring countries around her, if adoption of Bitcoin was to be based on this perspective of yours, by now, I believe that this countries that are around El Salvador should by now, have adopted Bitcoin and made it a legal tender too, but they haven't, why?  Huh.

Now, we discover it is not all about a country adopting Bitcoin and the neighboring country following sort, for different governments, Bitcoin adoption is an individual thing, it is what each government of every country has to decide on independent of what the decision of their neighbor is or are.

In the end, what actually is holding this countries from adopting Bitcoin is fear, greed, corruption etc.
  • Fear ~ fiat give power to the government, banks etc, Bitcoin takes that power and give it to the people who the power belongs to, governments, Central banks know this and they are afraid of losing that power they have over the citizens through fiat system.
  • Greed ~ fiat can be printed as many as possible, government and central banks print unlimited supply/amount of fiat money mostly to satisfy their greed, but Bitcoin has a limited supply of 21 million, governments and central banks know that Bitcoin will automatically take away their ability to printing as much fiat as they want out of their greed, which have always been at the expense of the citizens.
  • Corruption ~ corrupt governments and central banks are afraid to give Bitcoin a chance because Bitcoin will expose them, it will expose their wasteful spending habit, Bitcoin will expose their criminal-like lifestyles, Bitcoin will expose how they misappropriate funds, how they loot and steal from citizens, Bitcoin will expose their corrupt practices.

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August 10, 2022, 01:05:50 AM
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There is indeed some truth in your observation. I'm referring to the seemingly regionalization in terms of Bitcoin adoption. This is particularly observed in the Latin American countries where various bills supporting Bitcoin are either planned or submitted to congress for deliberation.

Bitcoin is also widely adopted in Europe, where countries are more technologically advanced. In contrast, many countries in Africa are more or less indifferent to its growth.

But I guess this isn't a conspiracy. Neither is it about a massive increase in GDP from Bitcoin adoption. I guess this is simply about how countries appreciate Bitcoin and their level of awareness.

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Neighboring countries are just waiting for what will happen actually. If it turns out good, they will also adopt its inevitable for others to follow what works for other countries. But because only small countries are adopting, they are also skeptical. BTC is becoming popular but not for regular internet users, it's still a long way to go.


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August 10, 2022, 03:48:29 AM
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Looking at the scenario (countries) in the world that against the adoption of bitcoin. I am thinking that countries are deliberately stop using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies or banning them base on their neighbour countries foreign policies. Because the way I look at it, if their neighbour adopt bitcoin and make or generate a massive GDP from the butcoin and used it to developed the country to a standard level, where employment is guaranty in the country. I dont think the neighnour countries would reject the adoption plan of bitcoin, Let take Nigeria and her neighbours as an example. . Now if Nigeria adopt Bitcoin and make great income from it and used it to develop the country to the world standard. Would Ghana, Cameroun, Niger and Chad and other nearby neighbours of Nigeria will reject the use of Bitcoin? Now, on my own, since Bitcoin is a decentralized system which is out of authority control and that make them to reject bitcoin  by banning. Once they follow their foreign policies to ban bitcoin, then it become class conspiracy,
First of all, bitcoin doesn't "guarantee" employment or else the whole world would adopt bitcoin to eradicate unemployment from the world. And bitcoin also doesn't remove poverty nor does it improves the economy but yeah, it can act (as a catalyst) to make the economy better.

I doubt the neighboring countries would ban bitcoin if they see that country is doing very well after making or at least realizing bitcoin as a legal asset.

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August 10, 2022, 04:10:29 AM
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Go ahead and create those conspiracies. They actually do much more for adoption than against, even if true. Take a look at history and trace back all the times they tried to ban, censor, resist. Users not only keep on using, they get savvier at using. No exchanges? They learn to use actual clients and p2p. No crypto businesses? Great, people use it for personal and overseas txs.

Better still, those who would never otherwise have heard of Bitcoin would actually hear about it.

Class conspiracy? Ha. Only such one going on is when your leaders tell you it is for your own good and you will share the benefits if you let them force to you to use Bitcoin the way they want you to.

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You have made an interesting observation.  I believe what is happening is that you have a wait and see approach by neighboring countries before jumping on the bandwagon.  Also, makes you wonder if adoption has been slowed in some instances due to perceived fears of being blacklisted.
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Referring to the growth of bitcoin around the world, it will develop very quickly in developed countries, they provide a place for Bitcoin and provide opportunities for people to adopt the times that adapt to technology, bitcoin has reached a power that influences people to take part in all their activities

We can't completely relate the conspiracy to bitcoin travel in certain countries, because bitcoin frames don't run automatically, if there is no support from the people involved, Latin American and European countries have adopted bitcoin as a medium of exchange for fiat or other currencies. often we are with digital currency in general



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August 10, 2022, 05:05:13 AM
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You have an exaggerated view of what bitcoin can do to a country's economy. It can not do any of that, it won't guarantee increased GDP and income, or decreased unemployment, etc. Bitcoin will certainly open some new doors but it is not going to perform miracles. Big improvements in the economy of a country needs big changes in basic economic matters.

For example in Iran we've adopted bitcoin years ago and it has been used for import/exports and about 10% of the hashrate is in Iran. But none of it is the reason for the changes in the economy.
What is improving the economy is everything else, like the changes in the banking system that forces them to invest in infrastructure and production instead of what they were doing before which messed up the economy. Changes in the exports where oil is not the main export, a lot of other things are and even oil is not going to be exported but oil products are. The destination of exports have also significantly improved.
All that is helping inflation decrease, employment increase, GDP to go up,... not the adoption of bitcoin.

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It has been stated multiple times that Bitcoin is NOT some kind of macroeconomic and financial panacea that will end poverty and unemployment and bring massive GDP growth to the countries that adopt it. El Salvador has adopted Bitcoin as legal tender for several months.
Do you see El Salvador turning into Switzerland or Norway in terms of GDP and standard of living? Nope, El Salvador is still a poor country.
If one country becomes really successful at some industry, the surrounding countries would try to compete with that country in that particular industry, rather than banning the industry completely.

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Looking at the scenario (countries) in the world that against the adoption of bitcoin. I am thinking that countries are deliberately stop using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies or banning them base on their neighbour countries foreign policies. Because the way I look at it, if their neighbour adopt bitcoin and make or generate a massive GDP from the butcoin and used it to developed the country to a standard level, where employment is guaranty in the country.
Do neighboring countries' policies influence neighboring countries to follow? whether a country sees Bitcoin in terms of influence or even in terms of freedom. That doesn't mean that the neighboring countries are adopting Bitcoin and the surrounding countries are also adopting it. I don't see El Salvador's neighbors do the same. It goes back to the policies, needs, and responses of its own citizens whether they have support or not. In terms of Bitcoin adoption, this is probably more of a comparison in terms of economic growth.

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The issue here is thinking that BTC adoption will somehow generate economic prosperity and well-being. That simply is not true. It can lead to more financial independence for individuals, but this whol craze that's been going on with countries buying BTC makes no difference in their overall economic standard. Adoption means the government passing a law that will make crypto easier to use for individuals (be it integration with banks, less paperwork, more ATMs, or more business accepting crypto as payment...). The biggest conspiracy is trying to make everyone think that BTC adoption will solve years upon years of economic neglect.

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Bitcoin is also widely adopted in Europe, where countries are more technologically advanced.

Where do you get that from? There are some countries where adoption will be higher but I can assure you that adoption in most European countries is minimal. And even less for the purposes of day-to-day payments. Most people buy bitcoin to speculate, but there are hardly any shops where you can pay with bitcoin and even fewer people who pay in the few shops where you can.


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Once they follow their foreign policies to ban bitcoin, then it become class conspiracy,

It must be a very poor consipracy then because nobody is even adhering to it at large.

The reason why most group efforts fail is because of the dwindling or complete cessation of activities by the majority of its members.

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Not sure about this conspiracy though, I mean countries that go against bitcoin as authoritative government because they don't want to give control to the people. So it's hard to see them suddenly changing their stance just because their neighboring countries is in BTC. So for me it's really who is the sitting President or government right now, if by chance the next Bukele lost or his term as President of El Salvador expire and then the next government is against crypto or bitcoin, then maybe we will see no longer the kind of adoption in their country.

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Excellent point, OP. However, the varied perspectives that individuals and governments have on cryptocurrencies often do not ensure their widespread adoption. Any ruling party or individuals that feel the need to invest in cryptocurrencies for profit or other reasons will take the bull by the horns and slay it once and for all. Your point that other neighboring nations will be interested in bitcoin is not necessarily true because they might not understand how the bitcoin market operates and may not benefit in the same way that other nation did when they entered it. It has to do with awareness and comprehension of how different people perceive it.

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Now if Nigeria adopt Bitcoin and make great income from it and used it to develop the country to the world standard. Would Ghana, Cameroun, Niger and Chad and other nearby neighbours of Nigeria will reject the use of Bitcoin?

Why would that be the case just because Nigeria was first? Of other neighboring countries find out that they can take advantage of Bitcoin, they would jump in — regardless if they were first or last.

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countries are deliberately stop using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies or banning them base on their neighbour countries foreign policies

that also constitute the reasons but their mentalities still remains stereotype such that they believed bitcoin is the main perpetrator to performing crime and digital  fraudulency.

if their neighbour adopt bitcoin and make or generate a massive GDP from the butcoin and used it to developed the country to a standard level

if you look at the objectives to the creation of bitcoin by Satoshi, it was majorly targeted on the people and not government, once you make a good economy advantage in using bitcoin then this can as well relate to other people also in taking same benefits from using bitcoin thereby improving better lives without involving government

Now if Nigeria adopt Bitcoin and make great income from it and used it to develop the country to the world standard. Would Ghana, Cameroun, Niger and Chad and other nearby neighbours of Nigeria will reject the use of Bitcoin?

every country has it own economy obligation and it will not do well when working by other people's choice to work same way for you, if they are all adopting bitcoin then it should be base on their research and adequate preparedness for the adoption and not just following the crowd, it may cost alot of regret if they never see the opportunity first before jumping into the adoption, remember everything has it own risk.


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For that to happen passively, the accepting country needs to set an example first so that the neighboring countries can get some positive vibes out of it. It's not really that easy and if it would have been then trust me we had bitcoin on the go applications everywhere. Sadly we dont have it. Examples already exists such as EL Salvador and the government continues to buy more and more bitcoins with public fundings. Honestly their peeps are not as happy as they should have been because its not working out properly. That's a big issue with bitcoin adoption. The infra restricts the use case while less knowledge associated with the bitcoin is keeping peeps away from its usage.
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Now if Nigeria adopt Bitcoin and make great income from it and used it to develop the country to the world standard. Would Ghana, Cameroun, Niger and Chad and other nearby neighbours of Nigeria will reject the use of Bitcoin?

Thou Bitcoin is a risky investment, and every country has their economical strength. But Nigeria is indeed the largest black nation in the world, and the most populous country in Africa, of which other African countries look up to in terms of decision making and choice of action. So for me, I think if Nigeria finally legalized the use of Bitcoin, and make great income from it to the extent of developing the country drastically through the use of Bitcoin, I'm very sure other neighbouring countries will want to do such to. Because taking a look at El Salvador, this is a country bordered by both "Honduras" on the nortwest, "Guatemala" on the nortwest, of which thou these countries never legalized Bitcoin as a legal tender, but the activities of Bitcoin could be hardly felt these places, to the extent the mayor of a town in one of the neighbouring countries was given a Bitcoin mining device to start mining bitcoin



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