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August 13, 2022, 08:00:53 AM
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Tek juce sam otkrio RSK ,radi se o sloju 2 ili sidechain lancu koji omogucava DE FI na Bitcoinu  ,pametne ugovore ,tokene itd
Vidimo da su DE FI   projekti na ETH  zadnjih par godina  dozivljeli veliku popularnost .Imamo cak i onaj zamotani WBTC na ETH oko 200-300 tisuca BTC je deponovano tamo
Zasto  RSK nije dozivio veliku popularnost  , sidechain  postoji od 2017 jel u pitanju samo los marketing ili postoji nesto drugo


https://www.rsk.co/


Ovdje je sidechain explorer.

https://explorer.rsk.co/

https://stats.rsk.co/

Evo nekoliko projekata BTC DE FI na RSK  koje smatram jako zanimljivim.

https://live.sovryn.app

https://app.blindex.io/stake


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August 13, 2022, 02:44:58 PM
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ja imam SOV, RBTC u dva LP-a na Sovryn protokolu, i mislim da je u pitanju kombinacija nepostojeceg marketinga, slabog odziva BTC holdera i generalno male sigurnosti samog lanca

likvidnost je uz to vrlo mala, i razvoj je prilicno slab

u osnovi, nedostaje programera koji bi razvijali aplikacije, i pored toga sto je u pitanju EVM kompatibilan blokcejn, koji mozes koristiti uz metamask
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August 13, 2022, 04:25:30 PM
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ja imam SOV, RBTC u dva LP-a na Sovryn protokolu, i mislim da je u pitanju kombinacija nepostojeceg marketinga, slabog odziva BTC holdera i generalno male sigurnosti samog lanca

likvidnost je uz to vrlo mala, i razvoj je prilicno slab

u osnovi, nedostaje programera koji bi razvijali aplikacije, i pored toga sto je u pitanju EVM kompatibilan blokcejn, koji mozes koristiti uz metamask

Zanima me sta se desi sa BTC kad ih transformisem u RBTC
Kazu da se zakljucaju na BTC blokcejnu multisig transakcijom,ko jos moze otkljucati taj BTC
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August 13, 2022, 05:33:53 PM
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Zanima me sta se desi sa BTC kad ih transformisem u RBTC
Kazu da se zakljucaju na BTC blokcejnu multisig transakcijom,ko jos moze otkljucati taj BTC

koristi se PowPeg mehanizam, ali je zakljucavanje prilicno zametan i komplikovan proces

jednostavnije je iskoristiti liquality novcanik, koji automatski radi swap iz BTC u RBTC - tu ne radis zakljucavanje, nego menjas BTC za vec zakljucani na RSK mrezi

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August 14, 2022, 08:57:35 AM
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Bitcoineri su dosta tvrdi i nisu spremni na velike promjene pogotovo ako te promjena negativno utiču na fundamentalne karakteristike bitcoina i blockchaina. Možda se sjećate kraja filma The Wolf of Wall Street kad Leonardo kaže "sell me this pen". Hajde uvjeri me zašto mi treba RSK? Za NFT, za DeFi? Ti meni Defi - ja tebi Celsius pa izvoli. Wink

pooya87 je odlično objasnio razliku između side chain-a kakav je RSK i second layer-a kao Lightning Network. Iako su slični, u pitanju su dvije različite stvari. Bez Bitcoin blockchain ne funkcioniše ni Lightning Mreža. Ali Rootstock-ov RSK djeluje nezavisno od Bitcoin blockchaina. Kod RSK se ne koristi bitcoin nego token koji je vezan za vrijednost bitcoina. Tu onda moramo imati povjerenje u Rootstock da će ta vrijednost ostati ista kada dođe vrijeme da povučemo svoj bitcoin.

You are confusing 3 different concepts with each other: Second layer, Side chains, Tokens
1. Second layer
Second layer is a different network that is built on top of the main network and relies completely on it. For example if mainnet fails the second layer will fail also.
Example: Lightning Network

2. Side chain
Similar to second layer, side chains are also a different network but they are usually only pegged to main network not built on top of it an they don't rely on main net for security,etc. For example if mainnet fails the side chain can still keep going.
This is also why 1 LN bitcoin is 1 bitcoin but 1 sidechain bitcoin doesn't have to be 1 bitcoin. For example 1 bitcoin turns into X RSK, or 1 bitcoin could turn into 1000 wrapped bitcoin on another chain.
Example: Rootstock, all the wrapped bitcoin tokens, Blockstream's Liquid,...

Another difference between 1 and 2 is the trust. In second layer the trust is minimal while it is not true about side chains specially in case of centralized ones. Sometimes they even involve other signers (eg. liquid) so you rely on those parties too.

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August 14, 2022, 09:26:14 PM
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Zasto  RSK nije dozivio veliku popularnost  , sidechain  postoji od 2017 jel u pitanju samo los marketing ili postoji nesto drugo
Jameson Lopp ima dobru stranicu za sve Bitcoin layer two protokole i RSK je jedan od Sidechaina kao i Liquid (Blockstream), Mintlayer, DeFiChain, itd.
Nakon nedavnih hakiranja drugih shitcoina i njihovih multicoin ''mostova'', rekao bih da postoji mnogo veći rizik u korištenju RSK-a, i ne bih riskirao ozbiljan novac na to.
Ja nisam fan nijednog sidechain-a ali mislim da Liquid ima bolje šanse nego RSK, iako nijedan sidechain nema preveliku likvidnost.
https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/other-layers.html

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