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August 14, 2022, 03:17:14 PM
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Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?
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August 14, 2022, 04:34:41 PM
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Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

If Christians do not involved in politics then who will come and change the Society? Do you understand the concept or meaning of Politics? Now I believe you yourself is a Christian. Will be involved in Politics so you can do what others have not done to change the Society? Even in the Bible there is Politics. In the book of first Samuel and second Samuel, when the Israelites asked Samuel to tell God to give them King. And Samuel asked God and God told Samuel to select Saul as the king in Israel. Who was the first Government appointment by man in Israel. And the people were happy because they believed that Saul would do what they ( the Israelites) need in the Society. Therefore, Christians participating in Politics is the best way to develop the countries. Now we are suffering because the leaders are not born again.
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August 14, 2022, 05:31:55 PM
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Just because a person is born on the land within the territorial borders of a State or the United States, doesn't make him a citizen of that State or the United States... not until he says he is.

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August 14, 2022, 07:02:04 PM
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You do realize that Christianity itself or the whole idea of religion is politics?
If there was no politics in religion then we wouldn't be witnessing any religious leaders, priests, Imams, reverends etc

People wouldn't be killing each other because of religious beliefs. The whole thing about religion is about power and dominion and with that comes politics.

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August 14, 2022, 08:21:01 PM
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Politics in itslef is not lying or making promises that are not true, rather that's a byproduct of politics. So in a sense, no, there is nothing wrong with them engaging in politics. However, when they lie, it's not vecause of politics, it's because they choose to.

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August 14, 2022, 08:39:09 PM
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Politics in itslef is not lying or making promises that are not true, rather that's a byproduct of politics. So in a sense, no, there is nothing wrong with them engaging in politics. However, when they lie, it's not vecause of politics, it's because they choose to.

Working in politics requires constant evasiveness and cunning. Traits we usually find in wolves. This is because the politician is in a continuous battle with his opponents, who will come to power or who will implement his political agenda and implement his views on the ground.
Religion is supposed to possess the ultimate truth through the authority of God. If we combine it with politics, it spoils both. Here I am talking about religion in general and not about Christianity in particular or any specific religion.

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August 15, 2022, 12:59:20 PM
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The chuch always goes close to the politics. Even is the country is secular, it doesnt change much  Sad
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August 15, 2022, 03:06:45 PM
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Christian (and other ESTABLISHED religions) were made to define "good" and "bad"

From there laws were made.

Hope this clears it up.

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August 15, 2022, 03:33:56 PM
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Politics is not something for one set of religion people, Politics is for everyone from different religion.  Politics needs good religious people , if we abandon Politics because of the religion we belong to then we will keep on having the kind of bad politicians we have today.  Good people needs to go into politics.

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August 15, 2022, 05:05:04 PM
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Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

Remove "Christian" and replace it with "Muslim" or "Jewish", etc and there's your answer. EVERYONE should be engaged in politics imho and everyone should be free to run provided they qualify for the position. Then it's just a matter of making sure they keep their religious/ethnic biases out of their decision-making and that they not give preferential treatment to their "kind".

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

No. We've barred doctors from endorsing brands in ads because of possible conflicts of interest, the same should apply to other "professionals," including the clergy.

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August 16, 2022, 11:27:02 PM
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I'm not really sure why you're targeting christians? Why not muslims, jews or buddhists?
Many people considers themselves as part of one of religions. And some of them get involved in politics. But how many of them mix their job (being politician) and religious views? I don't know.
But I hate when religion is going into politics. Like when christian church is going against abortion or islamists trying limit rights of women.

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August 17, 2022, 08:16:04 AM
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Believers in the Christian religion or any other religion cannot engage in politics in its current form because it is based on lies. Politics in short is “the art of lying” and lying is a sin in any religion, so it is difficult for any real religious man to work in politics, only in an existing government On the true religion in its divine form, the clergy can work in politics. This does not exist at the moment.

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August 17, 2022, 02:40:42 PM
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^^^ Christians should engage in politics for the exact reasons you say they shouldn't. In their engagement, they should use truth rather than lies. If the nation will not accept them, they will be ousted. But if they make enough sense, people just might start to wake up. Things might start to change.

Politics doesn't really mean simply being a politician. What did Trump do? He started a media program to counteract the evil in media today... although he may not be wholeheartedly engaged in it. Bitcoin mining people could start power plants to supply their electricity. Christian politicians might need to start all kinds of businesses - not they themselves, directly; rather, their supporters - just to bypass the control the current, evil politicians have over the nation.

It will take time. But more and more of current business will throw in with Christian politicians once they see the sense of their platforms.

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August 17, 2022, 03:54:24 PM
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Most democracies follow Judeo-Christian values -- if you're a Christian you shouldn't any issues running in a democratic election if your constituency is also primarily Christian based or follow Judeo-Christian values. If you want to be a true politician, however, your job is to tell people what they want to hear, not what they need to here, ie your job is to lie for a living. Don't like it, then perhaps public office is not for you.
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So, let Christians be honest and truthful politicians to start the system changing.

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In politics there is no christian, as long the law demanded anyone via Muslim and Christian can contest to change the country. In all these body what the society needs is a good leadership and good governance which will help the growth of the country or Nation. Of course if a Christian Aspirant can be considered as most qualified candidate with some prove of a good records, sound certificates then he should be voted. All they need is a God fearing leader who would seek the attention of their citizens,wellbeing, tackle insecurity, save lives and properties then such people should be Voted and Elected in as a president or any of the governmental offices to govern her Nation.

So, let Christians be honest and truthful politicians to start the system changing.
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At this points if a Christian and Muslim is chosen there will be a balance system of leadership also unity in the Nation. 

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August 18, 2022, 06:43:39 PM
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Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.
Like it or not politics affects us all without minding our religion. If you're a Christian and choose to be uninterested in the politics of your nation, if a bad person becomes leader, you will still be affected by whatever decisions they make. As a Christian, even if you do don't like to get your hands dirty by being a candidate, you can still be very involved in the electoral process of your nation, do don't just stand aside.

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August 18, 2022, 08:37:43 PM
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Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

Lying and giving fake promises are not morally right irrespective of what religion the person belongs too and if God punish everyone who made fake promises then this world should be a lot better place than now so it means people are doing what they can do within their power, social status, financial status, etc and if the judgement day is true then they will get what they deserves.









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'free speech' means anyone can lie...especially those who call themselves part of a religion like Christian.

You cannot trust any human to govern you ever, period. That is why true Christian (or other religions that teach God is good) teach each other to look to God (and the good lessons involved with the religions...I will say 10 commandments as example). Never look to another HUMAN... they have greed by nature which is a natural, but something we always should be aware. (Everyone wants to feed their own mouth first, not anyone else's mouth)

Religion is like an institution on how to do good things throughout our lives. Without this knowledge passed down through generations, humans would elevate men into God status again (we already did that in human history)

Maybe that is a good way to look at it. Before God was popular idea, people elevated other humans to be gods...

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They can, as a citizen but if they're defending their faith against the policies of the government, they clearly have to do whatever it takes to prove their faith. But for me, they should just focus in saving souls rather than joining these debates and supporting political parties and personalities. Known is that politics is dirty and they should be the one to clean themselves or avoid anything related to it unless the politicians are the ones asking them help but, we can't be sure if those are pure intentions. Because we know that politicians will always be politicians that will make politicking obvious when they approach a group, religious or not.

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