[PAID TESTERS NEEDED] Zenland Blockchain Escrow Platform | Up to $30 (closed)

[Woodie]

I like the concept behind the Zenland Blockchain Escrow Platform simple and easy , contract 101 stuff ...seller initiates the whole process which is an invitation to treat and Buyer accepts by virtual of accepting or going through the approve process which is going to be a game changer indeed! Only concern when setting up the contract is the possible adjustment of the fee to show were the zenland fee will be deducted from as the Zenland platform shows another balance in the top right..

Clean and nice contract, I like this !

this is what the buyer sees after seller initiates the contract, and I like the fact that if any changes are made to the contract then both parties need to be in agreement to avoid any misunderstandings before approving to proceed to the next stage....... and I must say this is a super clean interface which I tried out on PC, wonder how this would look on a mobile phone .

No sure if I should call this a bug or just a small backend error that needs adjusting, but when you get to the Transfer stage I have noticed this says USDt when I used the BUSD token as my agreed currency, btw amount is correct but currency is wrong..

Otherwise so far so good, looking forward to Zenland going live!


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My only question would be which wallet or currency covers the Zenland fees knowing that other tokens can be sent on the platform and by the way why doesn't Zenland show the balance( 20 BUSD) am having in my wallet when drafting the contract?

And lastly who can see the reviews left after the contract is fulfilled?


Update: payment has been received
thanks Team Zenland

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[Diornov]

Hi, I'm the founder of Zenland, I'd like to thank everyone participating in the testing for sharing their feedback with us as we continue working with applicants. In the mean time, I want to address questions I see above and update you on where we are at this point and how your suggestions are handled.

neither Buyer / Seller could set a 'Due Date' for the dispute, and there is no information whether the initial due date before dispute is still applied

Once the case is disputed (usually because the seller missed the deadline for order fulfillment) it is settled between a buyer and seller and so, the initial due date no longer applies (which will be indicated as we are updating the tool). The dispute duration depends on how parties resolve it and cannot be simply restricted by time. At this point a buyer and a seller negotiate through the contract chat messaging. Later on, if the case is unsettled either of them can call an Agent to resolve. Contract chat messages and all contract conditions let the Agent reach a fair conclusion. Check out for more: https://docs.zen.land/contract-actions/dispute

'Review' feature, I have small suggestion on this one I will prefer to distinguish between account review as buyer and seller, some time people are good seller but when they have the money and become a buyer they do silly and ridiculous thing. Also, I don't see any feature to spot/tag a fake or paid review, I wish the developer will find some ways.

We've just added a "seller/buyer" tag for reviews after your suggestion. It is on the development server and will be in full use within a few days. Also, about spotting/tagging a fake or paid review, it is already on our To Do list.
The full profile analytics will show you how many contracts the person has made, what is the average price of the contract, how many disputes he had and how many contracts were successfully released without any issues. We expect it to be ready by the end of the year.

I would like to have a dark mode option. It's just my preference

That's a good feature to have that will be added in the upcoming versions.

This means that you are short on funds as you closed the registration for a full member and above so early. (You did not specify the total number of people whom you will select initially).

Don't think that having a set budget for testing equals being dishonest. Yes, the project is still in its early stages and our will to get the Zenland app better, team's dedication, and my personal savings is all we have now. The one thing I know (and the experience with the forum members confirms it) we stand by the promises we make and are not here to wriggle out of paying testers who help us improve.

That said, the total number of testers that would get a reward from us should have been disclosed initially. That is a reasonable claim and it will not be overlooked the next time.

Thank you for comment.

My only question would be which wallet or currency covers the Zenland fees knowing that other tokens can be sent on the platform and by the way why doesn't Zenland show the balance( 20 BUSD) am having in my wallet when drafting the contract?

The team is already working on eliminating the confusion here. The balance every user sees in the top right on login shows the funds in your Zenland (in-app) wallet from where the service fee is paid. This fee has been waived for all testers while we are in beta stage, and so we are depositing a certain sum to deduct Zenland fee from it. More about Zenland fee and how it’s paid is here: https://docs.zen.land/fundamentals/zenland-contract/zenland-fee-payer

And lastly who can see the reviews left after the contract is fulfilled?

The reviews left after the contract completion are public and can be seen on seller’s or buyer’s profile pages. The more contracts you complete, the more reviews there will be displayed. We’ve added them to let users dealing with each other see whether or not the buyer(or seller) can be trusted before initiating a contract.

Also, the bug with the token underneath the “Transfer” button has already been fixed and soon will be live. By the way, Zenland mobile version of escrow tool is currently in alpha testing and changes are being made to it.

[Woodie]

Thanks to the magic of the blockchain, wallets are easy to generate with a few clicks here and there but how will you encourage buyers/sellers to stick to the same wallet address when it comes to using the Zenland ecosystem?

[entebah]

i just try the website with a few contracts made and after all for me it's awesome

But i want to ask if you can make the release option on the buyer contract can't be clicked before the seller fulfill the contract?



Because if the buyer let's say "accidentally" click the release button without the seller fulfilling the contract then the money is just sent to the seller instantly.
because i just try to click the release button but there is still no notification if the seller already fulfilled the contract it would be good if there is a notification about that.



so if you added that feature it will be more secure for the buyer


i have a few questions
1. will you accept other cryptocurrencies in the agreed amount section?
2. about the Review, How we can see other people's reviews? because i just try to search other people's addy that joins in this tester and sees their reviews but i can't find it.


edit: i just received the payment

[Gambit2s]

I have problem while testing that i couldn't figure it out.

So i have deployed the contract and accepeted it from the seller's account but  when i try to transfer 1 usdt i get this error:



I have 20 BUSD there so i don't know why it's saying insufficient balance, maybe because it's a differenct currency ? is there a way to change it so that i can transfer BUSD and not USDT ?

*fixed*
Report:

I used the Binance smart test chain to test out the Zenland platform. It's an escrow smart contract on the blockchian, very simple to use and the fees are low, so here's my review:

When you first visit the zenland app and login through metamask it will look something like this :



The UI looks great and it's pretty smooth and responsive, so no complaints in that regard. When starting a new escrow contract, I selected my wallet as the buyer's account and another wallet as the seller's account, then I proceeded by filling out the rest of the form shown in the page above by adding a name to the contract and a small description , specifying the duration of the contract and also the amount and currency that I will use to pay.

When the contract was created, I logged in to the seller's account and could see all the details of the contract. A chat window will open up as well, where you can have further discussions with the buyer. I accepted the contract, then went to the buyer's account and deployed it. After that, I transferred the agreed amount to the contract. I was having a problem with this before because apparently I had BSCT USDT instead of BSCT BUSD (which is the coin i had funds in) as the currency and I was getting an "insufficient amount" error because of it. The transfer page shows USDT regardless of whether you're using BUSD or USDT, so that was a bit confusing. I think a good workaround to this will be to only display the currencies you have a balance in and eliminate others, kind of like when the exchange removes unsupported networks when you put in the withdrawal address.

Anyway, I fulfilled the contract requirements from the seller's account, and that's basically it. The contract was completed and you can leave a review to the seller.


Edit:
payment received.

[GxSTxV]

I tried the zen.land platform on Rinbeky test network and this is my experienced and what i noticed.

The most attractive thing is the simplicity with the platform where you don’t need to register or open an account or put any of your informations to use the escrow service, both seller or buyer can create the contract and set the details they want, such as the due time and the time the seller will have to offer his service before the buyer can open a dispute and get his money back. And same thing for the seller.



Who ever create the contract he will get this page and wait for the second part approval, this is me as a buyer and after that i logged in as the seller i noticed there is a message on my platform which is a great thing



Now i would be able to approve this contract on my part as a seller



And once again the buyer will receive a notification as the seller has approved the contract, and after paying the platform fees as i set in the beginning of the contract that both seller and buyer pays 50x50 of the fees. Then as i buyer i should transfer the amount of which we agreed and it’s an easy process and everything is automatic with the platform



After full filling and providing what the buyer bought you can release his funds and leave a review from both parts

I also noticed the dispute option in case there was a misunderstanding or a scam try from one of the sides, zen.land has agents that can help both parts.


Update: i tried another contract so i can open a dispute and invite an agent to resolve it, it’s also working fine and only taking a very small fees for that, plus the platform is working perfectly on both mobile and computer.




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These are some good points zen.land platform offer and which that i liked, first is the different networks that can be used as binance and ethereum so you don’t have to look up every time for another platform that accept your coins, it’s all in one and easy to change between networks.
The platform doesn’t take any high fees beside offering agents to escrow your trade and resolving disputes, and you can let the seller or the buyer pay for the fees or even share the fees 50x50.
Both sides can chat freely and set conditions before approving the contracts.

update: payment receive.  Pleasure testing your platform and definitely will be using it

[NotATether]

Hi, I'm the founder of Zenland, I'd like to thank everyone participating in the testing for sharing their feedback with us as we continue working with applicants. In the mean time, I want to address questions I see above and update you on where we are at this point and how your suggestions are handled.

Did your devs ever fix those issues with Binance Testnet contract deployment I PM'ed you about? That bug is kind of a show-stopper.

Also, the contract deployment fees for ETH Mainnet are excessively large (about $25-$100 depending on the network fee rate). What gives?

[fcmatt]

Telegram username: @fc_matt
Metamask address: 0x0Bd838ba203C6763bbEF2e0A1B9D81F866d97F95
Network: Rinkeby

[rdluffy]

Finally I tested and I'll leave my report
It's my first escrow, I knew what it is, but never used

Starting from website
The landing page is beautiful, clean, not too long scrolling, and the style is similar to other websites in crypto world, and this is good. The UX Design did a good job here, it's easy to find the elements.
The animation is algo good enough to provide a simple explanation about the service.
All links I tested are working, social networks, contact etc, from top to bottom, I think the service is close to launch date and the product is almost finished.
All documented, another positive thing.

I liked the simple explanation here: https://docs.zen.land/getting-started/how-zenland-works
Easy to understand, nothing more to add.

The color palette is also good, clean and professional.

Last, but important, the website works good at different sizes, and also mobile.

Now the app

Obvious, but have to be said, no need to use e-mail, only your adress, so you can stay anonymous.


Info when I hover the mouse is working good and well explained.
The "It is me" part is good to not have to copy and paste one more andress.



Easy to navigate though date and time



Chat is working and it's very usefull.



I found a small problem of no connection, but I updated the page (F5) and worked again, I was connected, only happened once



Small suggestion here:
If it's possible do an animation to get more attention if a person receive a chat message, just an small movement will be enough.



I simulated a problem with the product but before the need to Invite an Agent (I don't know if it's ready), and then released the money.





Before accepts the contract I simulated a change from 1 hour to test, to 2 hours, worked good too.



Small bug here:
I made the contract with BUSD but is showing USDT



Another small suggestion:
I don't know if I'm leaving a review for the another person/adress or for Zenland, maybe it's good to explain


Small suggestion, the last one, the balance only shows $, but I think it's easier if shows the coins like USDT or BUSD
Please disconsider if all coins will be converted to USD



I hope this report helps you, all my suggestions are in bold.
I tried a lot of things, I tested not only one but a couple of times, and will continue to try to see if I find some bug (I'll post here if I find one)
I wish all success

Edit: Payment received

[edgycorner]

Update: Payment received

My review for the Zenland platform:


The main website has a nice design, no complaints here except for a few suggestions:

Browsing the "How it works" sections isn't very intuitive. Some kind of indication (like an arrow) to the scroll will be helpful to the users.




When I submitted my Email address in the footer section, I wasn't greeted with any acknowledgment from the server. The page just reloads, nothing more.




Moving onto the app.

Maybe the info dialog box of "Due date" can include the fact that a contract can't be disputed until the Due Date is expired.




I encountered a bug(if it can be called one) during the deployment of contract. After creating the contract on Metamask the button changes to "Confirming" text(as it should). If you reload the page during this phase, then it will change back to active "Deploy" button
Maybe it should remain in the "Confirming" phase even after the reload. Some users may make the mistake of deploying it again.

The app could have an option of Browser notification(to notify about events/chat when users aren't on the website itself) and maybe an alert sound too(a small beep or dong like in localbitcoins).

The contract/chat head navigation buttons are too small.

The header of contract table doesn't seem responsive (https://i.imgur.com/GiViTBX.png)

Maybe it should be replaced by a "Sort by" dialog box on small screen instead of keeping the same design.


Other than this, it seems like a solid and professional platform. I will be wary of the fees tho. I am guessing it's like 1.5%. This platform could become a contender to localbitcoins too(for p2p trades, if you choose to expand in that direction), which has a fees of 1%

9/10 - It delivers

[Diornov]

Hi everyone!

Thank you to all applicants and testers. Just a quick update on the questions/suggestions we keep receiving.

Thanks to the magic of the blockchain, wallets are easy to generate with a few clicks here and there but how will you encourage buyers/sellers to stick to the same wallet address when it comes to using the Zenland ecosystem?

The buyer and seller are free to use any wallet address they want be it a single one for all purchases/sales or switching between accounts whenever necessary). Still, it is in seller's and buyer's interest to grow trust and reputation sticking to one wallet address. Same as on forums when users may create another account (whether just or unjust), they still need to earn reputation to be trusted. Reviews are there so that other users dealing with each other can see successfully closed, disputed, etc. contracts.

But i want to ask if you can make the release option on the buyer contract can't be clicked before the seller fulfill the contract?

That makes sense, but because the "Release" is a blockchain transaction, Metamask will ask a buyer to sign it. So even if accidentally clicked, it will not be executed until the user confirms it again in Metamask (which would be noticed).

i just try to click the release button but there is still no notification if the seller already fulfilled the contract it would be good if there is a notification about that.

Every step on both sides (buyer/seller) reflects a log message in the Contract Chat. Once the seller completes the order by clicking the "Complete" button it will automatically be reflected in the chat. In addition, the Contract Chat also serves as an anonymous messenger for communication about the contract and buyer can ask the seller in it. More information is here https://docs.zen.land/fundamentals/contract-chat

1. will you accept other cryptocurrencies in the agreed amount section?
2. about the Review, How we can see other people's reviews? because i just try to search other people's addy that joins in this tester and sees their reviews but i can't find it.

1. It is in plan for future releases and will be implemented once the escrow app is released for public.
2. You can see it by typing the MetaMask address of the user into the URL. It should look like this

https://app.zen.land/profile/0x41dffca7414d69b6e4efb8e9606b0dbaf82c942d
https://app.zen.land/profile/0x9c60e4498ebba3a58e910fa9566c15bb354487b0

If those you checked didn't have the reviews on profile that's probably because they didn't rate each other. Otherwise they would have been shown.

I have 20 BUSD there so i don't know why it's saying insufficient balance, maybe because it's a differenct currency ? is there a way to change it so that i can transfer BUSD and not USDT ?

Yes that's because you have BUSD and not DAI as stated in contract. We display multiple currencies that can be used for the escrow contract within the network to give users a choice to decide which one to select. So, it is important to choose the right network and currency when creating a contract. The changes to the contract can be done only before approval, which is equal to signing a traditional contract on your part. I see it on the Transfer stage and so, has no way to switch the currency. It is like if you have programmed the conditions of contract, put it into the blockchain but want the program to run the new conditions not previously written in code.

Did your devs ever fix those issues with Binance Testnet contract deployment I PM'ed you about? That bug is kind of a show-stopper.

Also, the contract deployment fees for ETH Mainnet are excessively large (about $25-$100 depending on the network fee rate). What gives?

Hello NotATether. The bugs you have had on your last test happened because the Explorer API keys were not updated on time, and it's my fault that the test did not go through. In fact, I want to thank you for being a sole contributor to updates implemented in 1.0.8-beta to 1.1.0-beta. Currently they are on the live server and everything is working as it should.

The prices for deploying contract on Ethereum are indeed high. Though this mainly depends on how congested the network is. We have added Ethereum Mainnet just because it's major network and most of the big players would like to use it. But if we are talking about Binance Mainnet - the price to deploy contract there will cost you about $2. The other Mainnets like Avalanche, Polygon, and Fantom are even cheaper to deploy a contract. From our tests, it is about 60 cents on Avalanche, 3 cents on Polygon, and 4 cents on Fantom. In the future, we are planning to add other networks like Boba and XDAI, (the prices there for deploying our escrow contract were about 0.0004$ last time I checked) to drop this fee even further.

I found a small problem of no connection, but I updated the page (F5) and worked again, I was connected, only happened once

This happens if a user has been disconnected because of the Internet issues. There is also a message appearing in the bottom right corner for such cases "Contract operations are disabled due to connection loss. Please check your network settings and refresh the page."

Small suggestion here:
If it's possible do an animation to get more attention if a person receive a chat message, just an small movement will be enough.

The app could have an option of Browser notification(to notify about events/chat when users aren't on the website itself) and maybe an alert sound too(a small beep or dong like in localbitcoins).
The contract/chat head navigation buttons are too small.
The header of contract table doesn't seem responsive (https://i.imgur.com/GiViTBX.png)
Maybe it should be replaced by a "Sort by" dialog box on small screen instead of keeping the same design.

Another small suggestion:
I don't know if I'm leaving a review for the another person/adress or for Zenland, maybe it's good to explain

As we continue to receive user reports this will be considered.

Small suggestion, the last one, the balance only shows $, but I think it's easier if shows the coins like USDT or BUSD
Please disconsider if all coins will be converted to USD

The dashboard balance displays user's internal wallet from where the service fee is paid. Because users can add funds to it via altcoins (BTC, ETH, BCH, and not just stablecoins), the amount is displayed in the dollar equivalent as for the currency rate at the time of transaction. Because of the different currency standard in different countries, we simply show the equivalent and not the actual currency.

Browsing the "How it works" sections isn't very intuitive. Some kind of indication (like an arrow) to the scroll will be helpful to the users.

This and other suggestions related to the Zenland website will be taken into account and reviewed once the app is ready to launch.

Maybe the info dialog box of "Due date" can include the fact that a contract can't be disputed until the Due Date is expired.

The screenshot I see here reflects the "Dispute" button before the seller clicks "Complete" and before the due date has expired and the info underneath explains that. Anyway, we'll think how to make it more intuitive to understand and will take your feedback into account.

I encountered a bug(if it can be called one) during the deployment of contract. After creating the contract on Metamask the button changes to "Confirming" text(as it should). If you reload the page during this phase, then it will change back to active "Deploy" button
Maybe it should remain in the "Confirming" phase even after the reload. Some users may make the mistake of deploying it again.

That's a bug that we are fixing now. Updates should be live within a week or so.



Important! All reported bugs has been fixed and changes are saved on the test server. Our Team Lead is getting married this Tuesday and so, the updates and fixes will be live the following week once the happy arrangements are over.

[edgycorner]

Maybe the info dialog box of "Due date" can include the fact that a contract can't be disputed until the Due Date is expired.

The screenshot I see here reflects the "Dispute" button before the seller clicks "Complete" and before the due date has expired and the info underneath explains that. Anyway, we'll think how to make it more intuitive to understand and will take your feedback into account.

My bad, I should have included the screenshot capturing the info dialog box instead


Right now it(info box) only mentions that it could be used for dispute resolution. I think it will be better to inform the users here that they can't start a dispute until after the due date has passed.

This way they can set a more appropriate date.

[Coin_trader]

My Personal Review:

The contract details is very easy to understand because of the info button that explain every part of the contract. I just want to comment on the format of Zenland fee payer, I preferred the 50:50 or 50/50 over 50x50 because it get me confused the first time I saw it without using the info button. The info just help me to understand that it was supposed to be the fee split type.

I really like the summary of the contract at the top part to have a reference for both party transaction. The chat feature is what makes this escrow app very unique on other dapps.

Every action made on this deal is recorded on the chatbox which is a good feature to update party on the current status of the deal. This s very important because both party is anonymous and very cautious on this transaction.

Deployment Transfer and Fulfillment is self explanatory and working like Binance P2P and other platform that offers P2P transaction. But since this is a dapps every action has a transaction fee and it will be very expensive on Blockchain like Ethereum.

On Fulfillment part when the seller will gonna send a confirmation message. Maybe add some feature to attached files or image for proof of completion of transaction. You can add this too on the chatbox to easily send proofs.

I try to test the dispute function and the picture below shows but there's no button to attached the proof. Maybe this feature is not yet complete but I just want to comment on the disappearance of release button at this part. Maybe make it still available at this part because there's a chance that the party come up to an agreement while waiting for the agent and there's no way for them to continue on this kind of setup.

Overall, I have no major problem encounter since everything went smooth since BSC testnet is very quick to confirmed. But there might be a problemm on slow blockchain like Ethereum when a transaction is stucked due to busy network.

[Hamich124D]

Zenland Report:

After testing out the zenland app using the rinkeby network and the trial funds provided by the zenland team i can now leave my review. Starting out with the main website, i think they did a very good job with it. It looks super nice and proffesional.



They also have a doc page where you can find all informations regarding smart contracts and a detailed step by step guide on how to use their escrow platform.



Upon visiting the app you will be asked to connect your metamask wallet, once you do that you will have acess to the main contract page where you can initiate a new contract.

              

Filling out the contract details is pretty straight forward you have those little info tabs that you can hover your mouse over them to see info related to that specific field, or you can read their docs if you face any probem.

After the contract is created, there will be four more steps before it gets fulfilled. The first one is the approval phase, where both the buyer and seller must accept the contract details. After that, the buyer can deploy the contract to the blockchain. Once the contract is deployed, the buyer will be asked to transfer the agreed amount to the seller. Finally, the seller will deliver the contract condition to the seller, and the buyer will then release the funds to the seller's account.




My thoughts:  The platform is working really well and I haven't faced any problems whatsoever during the testing, although I haven't tried all the app functionalities, for example, the dispute option. I would say that, overall, the beta version seems to be stable and working as intended. 4.5/5!

[rdluffy]

Update here
I already received the payment exactly as the proposed deal

Thank you, it was nice to test a good product.

[edgycorner]

Got my payment as well, thanks!

[MFahad]

I wish to be part of it. Thanks

Telegram username: @mfahad420
Metamask address: 0x9aB1AbDc478A872952C92c0F9f11496a5B668858
Network: Bsc

[Hamich124D]

Payment received!

Thanks zenland.

[PaulBf1]

We are temporarily stopping accepting new applications from users with the rank Full Member and higher. "Member" rank users can still apply.

Meanwhile, we are reviewing responses received so far and waitlisting all eligible candidates for testing. Thank you.

Your Telegram username:@Paul4151
One Metamask address (as a buyer): 0xCE283485Cba432510e273de72D02c949deefdf81
Specify the network for test funds (Rinkeby or Binance Test Network) :Rinkeby Test Network

[examplens]

first, to apologize for the slight delay.
Here is my review.

First, I would like to praise the overall design. modern but still not too intrusive and did not needlessly distract me. maybe I would consider adding a dark mode option, it has already become a standard and a habit. although it's perfectly fine like this.

what is most important is the management itself, and I would say that all the services used to manage any financial transactions, must be easy to use without incomprehensible possibilities and options.
I am more than satisfied with how everything went. I acted like a complete beginner but not for a single moment did I have the feeling that I had lost my way and that I was not sure which part of the process I was in. everything is quite clear.
*maybe I would emphasize the notification icon more, when a new request for a contract is created, it seems that it can only be found from there.

small info hints next to each step are very well done, and they are quite helpful.



during the process itself, I did not have any technical difficulties or slowdowns. I executed the complete contract in a few minutes along with all the introductions to the platform and making screenshots. I would say very promising. ok, yes it is testnet, it remains to be seen how everything will be in the actual production.



I have a few suggestions, which are more informative in nature.

as the escrow service is very delicate, I would like to have more information within the platform itself. For example, things like the current rate and network fee. the entire contract is in USD currency, while the transactions are in ETH. So I need another service to follow the rate. for a moment I didn't know how much ETH was going to me for what, I felt out of control. maybe I would like to wait with the transaction in case the fee is too high.
Maybe can be added in those hints or something like that



On the review page, it would be good if, in addition to the grades, the amount that was in the contract was also stated. I believe that it will mean feedback for every user. because it's really the same if someone got excellent grades for very small amounts or if the grades are for serious sums.
it will also be necessary to create a system to prevent the building of own feedback.

where we can see the service fee structure? I didn't find that info.

I'm glad I got to know this service, it will be very interesting how everything will work in real production.