Article: Why Bitcoin is the Most Nonsensical Thing Ever

[yudi09]

It's only natural for you to share posts from sources who don't understand Bitcoin, since you were on the forum on March 15, 2022. If I suggest you read more, it sounds like I'm tutoring you. To me, they are a group that doesn't like Bitcoin. Bitcoin was born long before you were present in this forum with various stories that have been experienced by many people with Bitcoin.

I think we don't need to discuss and explain in detail about this, because those who don't like Bitcoin will not believe in the explanation that will be given.

Don't forget to eat friend so that you are healthy and can carry out activities as usual.

You need to tell those around you that you must be careful in receiving information. You should not be silent because the purpose of the mouth is not just to eat.
It is necessary to disseminate correct information about Bitcoin so that those with ears can hear about the benefits and advantages of Bitcoin so that those who are close to you can get a solution when they face problems with fiat.

[arcmetal]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

And here you have practiced two textbook examples of a propagandist:

1.  Keep repeating a lie, "bitcoins aren't real", and hoping it sticks and that some will believe the BS.

2.  "Accusation in a Mirror", as a quote taken from the French psychologist's 1970 book on the topic:

imputing to the adversaries the intentions that one has oneself and/or the action that you are in the process of enacting

That is, you are the one using "language manipulation" to lure people into believe an untruth, and yet you blame others for such actions.

... except that, as you can see, no one here is falling for it.

[BITCOIN4X]

After Nakamoto presented their system, a myth about the similarity between this system and the banking one was created. And due to ignorance of how the banking system actually operates, people accepted this myth as truth.

Please don't say the system that bank run all this time is reliable by most people, I'm sure we all know how they manipulate everything wrapped up in various offers that seem right but aren't. You, me, and everyone else out there have lived side by side with bank for years, but I believe we had no other choice before bitcoin was created as the best option for those who no longer believe in bank.

I know the gist of your speech, it is only true on your part and those who share the same thoughts as you. But for others, please don't force us to believe what you say. I don't even know how you want to explain to me how we should be proud of the bank versus bitcoin without the references you read. So close your sermon and save your own world.

[lizarder]

There are two reasons people don't believe in bitcoin.
1. Frustration, this is caused by being too imaginative, maybe you are a person who failed in investing, so bitcoin becomes a scapegoat for your failure.
If you live in the Jahiliyah era, maybe some will never believe Mobile, airplanes and technology will exist, because at that time the only transportation used was horses, no cellphones and technology.
One thing you forget, that the journey of the Jahiliyah era to the present, many things we see are beyond logic, but in fact they have been enjoyed by people.

Don't narrow down knowledge, we are taught to enter into different fantasies, but not to resist progress.

2. You got to know bitcoin from the wrong person.
This story is unique, because in the area where I live, many people used to think bitcoin was not real, but finally they understood bitcoin and were not allergic to explore further, what I understand from the post you made, this is a concept of fear and something that design for a specific purpose.

I saw the post history along with your comments on the forums, people say you are a bank worker, this is understandable when you hate bitcoin so much, are you guys deliberately designed to continue attacking bitcoin.
"this looks funny"

It looks like you've been giving a speech in the middle of a soccer field for a long time, but unfortunately your speech was not heard by the audience!!!

[Kayeshlyn]

After reading your piece about Bitcoin and still having concerns about the figures, I'm left wondering whether you live in a forest or among people who have adopted technology into their daily lives but you refuse to learn from it.

I hope you read about Oxford City, the English soccer team that made history by becoming the first English club to officially allow the use of Bitcoin (BTC) as a form of payment of match tickets. In addition, Bitcoin can also buy food and drinks at Oxford City Raw Charging Stadium. Then, Perth Heat, the most successful baseball team in Australia, became the first sports organization to pay for all the players and his staff in Bitcoin. The club merchandise and food sales can also be done in Bitcoin.



It is not surprising that Bitcoin has the highest market cap in the crypto market considering it was the first and most widely used crypto asset. In the context of a crypto asset class, Bitcoin can also be referred to as an easy-to-trade reserve asset. Investors can access the entire crypto asset market simply by investing in Bitcoin.

You might have forgotten that Bitcoin seeks to be a means of exchange that can be used to make payments. As a result, a lot of individuals have invested in cryptocurrencies using Bitcoin since they recognize that no one has been able to successfully hack the Bitcoin blockchain network to yet.

My recommendation for you to increase the amount of reading or research related to Bitcoin. Who knows, maybe one day you will be able to collect as much Bitcoin as possible.

[Snowshow]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

And here you have practiced two textbook examples of a propagandist:

1.  Keep repeating a lie, "bitcoins aren't real", and hoping it sticks and that some will believe the BS.

2.  "Accusation in a Mirror", as a quote taken from the French psychologist's 1970 book on the topic:

imputing to the adversaries the intentions that one has oneself and/or the action that you are in the process of enacting

That is, you are the one using "language manipulation" to lure people into believe an untruth, and yet you blame others for such actions.

... except that, as you can see, no one here is falling for it.

You know, the same as I, and the same as everyone else who read the OP, that bitcoins don't exist. There's no person on Earth that saw anything else in their wallet but numbers. The whole system, on the other hand, just stores data from which those numbers are calculated. So factually, there are no electronic coins called bitcoins. There's nothing in the ownership of number holders that would be counted with that numers.

So, why are you lying? What are you trying to achieve?

[FanEagle]

Honestly let them think like this is a good approach I agree with that. I personally disagree and I have made a quite good amount of money and I have avoided banks and fiat crashes and I have managed to make a life and I am living a life that is insane to think about. I have an email account that I got in 2014 around the early times when I got interested in bitcoin, then I checked all my emails that I "saved", like not deleted, important ones.

I checked them last night and I can say that my life was not some rich wealthy amazing life, but it was surely an uncommon life, there is nothing wrong with that, it has been financially decent like all my friends but at the same time it was also quite unique as well. All thanks to bitcoin.

[Memorabilia]

This forum does not force everyone to believe in bitcoin or not, but Satoshi opens up opportunities for everyone to earn from bitcoin, the problem is you believe it or not that's your business, if indeed you are not interested in bitcoin, my question is why you,  using this forum, which without you knowing this forum is made by Satoshi, for users to discuss and find news about the growth of bitcoin from year to year.

True! It is a personal choice to believe or not in Bitcoin. People who have good knowledge about Bitcoin and the crypto market believe it to be real unlike those who don’t.

[theCommittalist]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

And here you have practiced two textbook examples of a propagandist:

1.  Keep repeating a lie, "bitcoins aren't real", and hoping it sticks and that some will believe the BS.

2.  "Accusation in a Mirror", as a quote taken from the French psychologist's 1970 book on the topic:

imputing to the adversaries the intentions that one has oneself and/or the action that you are in the process of enacting

That is, you are the one using "language manipulation" to lure people into believe an untruth, and yet you blame others for such actions.

... except that, as you can see, no one here is falling for it.

You know, the same as I, and the same as everyone else who read the OP, that bitcoins don't exist. There's no person on Earth that saw anything else in their wallet but numbers. The whole system, on the other hand, just stores data from which those numbers are calculated. So factually, there are no electronic coins called bitcoins. There's nothing in the ownership of number holders that would be counted with that numers.

So, why are you lying? What are you trying to achieve?

Bro' stop trash talking. Saying BTC doesn't exist is like saying the value that we all agree is stored in the material of & markings on a $100 bill doesn't exist, because nobody can locate this arrangement physically.

Bitcoins are blocks of encrypted information. The physical wallets we may use to send or receive this information, which represents an agreed upon storage of value for exchanging almost any other goods & services, only record transaction information. The fact that BTC does not occupy any more physical space, unless you print off paper wallets which some do, is part of its strength. It is evidence of the streamlining of the commercial currency exchange process. Pieces of paper & metal with markings on them that say this tender is representative of X amount of value because such & such an enforcement agency or government say so doesn't make coins or notes any more stable a form of currency than Bitcoin, which is a decentralized cryptocurrency with a proven track record of success as functional currency in the real world, for private individuals, huge exchanges, & traditional investors alike. If your country gets invaded or experiences some other more incremental catastrophe that destroys its economy, and your currency is suddenly rendered obsolete, you have nowhere to go. That is never going to happen to BTC because it is protected by the exponential growth in computer power & universal enfranchisement of using the internet. The majority have too much invested in these things to allow that economy to implode. Consensus wins, democracy wins. Not ancient Greek democracy or modern Greek democracy, but the universal ethical ideal of reason & transparency & faith in the long-held conviction of a majority.

[darewaller]

This forum does not force everyone to believe in bitcoin or not, but Satoshi opens up opportunities for everyone to earn from bitcoin, the problem is you believe it or not that's your business, if indeed you are not interested in bitcoin, my question is why you,  using this forum, which without you knowing this forum is made by Satoshi, for users to discuss and find news about the growth of bitcoin from year to year.

That’s the decentralized meaning of bitcoin as well. If you would like to do something that we are dealing with, then you are free to join us and be part of the bitcoin world that we are dealing with. But, if you do not want to then there is absolutely no reason to go with it at all, just focus on what you are doing and you will be fine.

This is why there isn't anything right about the current situation being forced or anything, it’s not. If you do not want to believe in Nakamoto, you have 100% right to do that, and that is amazing because you can choose to ignore it, try to ignore dollars or euros if you can and see if you can survive without them.

[Snowshow]

This forum does not force everyone to believe in bitcoin or not, but Satoshi opens up opportunities for everyone to earn from bitcoin, the problem is you believe it or not that's your business, if indeed you are not interested in bitcoin, my question is why you,  using this forum, which without you knowing this forum is made by Satoshi, for users to discuss and find news about the growth of bitcoin from year to year.

True! It is a personal choice to believe or not in Bitcoin. People who have good knowledge about Bitcoin and the crypto market believe it to be real unlike those who don’t.

Beliefs are something in your mind. No one cares about what happens in your mind. This is discussion about what is outside of minds, and that's reality. In reality no one is able to show bitcoins, just numbers.

[Snowshow]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

And here you have practiced two textbook examples of a propagandist:

1.  Keep repeating a lie, "bitcoins aren't real", and hoping it sticks and that some will believe the BS.

2.  "Accusation in a Mirror", as a quote taken from the French psychologist's 1970 book on the topic:

imputing to the adversaries the intentions that one has oneself and/or the action that you are in the process of enacting

That is, you are the one using "language manipulation" to lure people into believe an untruth, and yet you blame others for such actions.

... except that, as you can see, no one here is falling for it.

You know, the same as I, and the same as everyone else who read the OP, that bitcoins don't exist. There's no person on Earth that saw anything else in their wallet but numbers. The whole system, on the other hand, just stores data from which those numbers are calculated. So factually, there are no electronic coins called bitcoins. There's nothing in the ownership of number holders that would be counted with that numers.

So, why are you lying? What are you trying to achieve?

Bro' stop trash talking. Saying BTC doesn't exist is like saying the value that we all agree is stored in the material of & markings on a $100 bill doesn't exist, because nobody can locate this arrangement physically.

Bitcoins are blocks of encrypted information. The physical wallets we may use to send or receive this information, which represents an agreed upon storage of value for exchanging almost any other goods & services, only record transaction information. The fact that BTC does not occupy any more physical space, unless you print off paper wallets which some do, is part of its strength. It is evidence of the streamlining of the commercial currency exchange process. Pieces of paper & metal with markings on them that say this tender is representative of X amount of value because such & such an enforcement agency or government say so doesn't make coins or notes any more stable a form of currency than Bitcoin, which is a decentralized cryptocurrency with a proven track record of success as functional currency in the real world, for private individuals, huge exchanges, & traditional investors alike. If your country gets invaded or experiences some other more incremental catastrophe that destroys its economy, and your currency is suddenly rendered obsolete, you have nowhere to go. That is never going to happen to BTC because it is protected by the exponential growth in computer power & universal enfranchisement of using the internet. The majority have too much invested in these things to allow that economy to implode. Consensus wins, democracy wins. Not ancient Greek democracy or modern Greek democracy, but the universal ethical ideal of reason & transparency & faith in the long-held conviction of a majority.

Hahaha. A block contains data about sender, receiver and a number sent or received. This number is supposed to count coins, that is bitcoins. But no one has those coins. No one ever saw them.

Regarding those blocks and chains of blocks, anyone can download a copy of the blockchain, and it can be inspected to trace the path of numbers sent from one sender to another. So, you defined bitcoin as something that everyone can download for free. Hilarious.
 
The rest of your text is propaganda mixed with pure nonsense. You cannot protect something that doesn't exist. What you protect are numbers next to addresses. But why would anyone protect math abstractions that can be created in everyone's mind in an instant and used for whatever purposes? It's stupidity never seen before.

[theCommittalist]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

And here you have practiced two textbook examples of a propagandist:

1.  Keep repeating a lie, "bitcoins aren't real", and hoping it sticks and that some will believe the BS.

2.  "Accusation in a Mirror", as a quote taken from the French psychologist's 1970 book on the topic:

imputing to the adversaries the intentions that one has oneself and/or the action that you are in the process of enacting

That is, you are the one using "language manipulation" to lure people into believe an untruth, and yet you blame others for such actions.

... except that, as you can see, no one here is falling for it.

You know, the same as I, and the same as everyone else who read the OP, that bitcoins don't exist. There's no person on Earth that saw anything else in their wallet but numbers. The whole system, on the other hand, just stores data from which those numbers are calculated. So factually, there are no electronic coins called bitcoins. There's nothing in the ownership of number holders that would be counted with that numers.

So, why are you lying? What are you trying to achieve?

Bro' stop trash talking. Saying BTC doesn't exist is like saying the value that we all agree is stored in the material of & markings on a $100 bill doesn't exist, because nobody can locate this arrangement physically.

Bitcoins are blocks of encrypted information. The physical wallets we may use to send or receive this information, which represents an agreed upon storage of value for exchanging almost any other goods & services, only record transaction information. The fact that BTC does not occupy any more physical space, unless you print off paper wallets which some do, is part of its strength. It is evidence of the streamlining of the commercial currency exchange process. Pieces of paper & metal with markings on them that say this tender is representative of X amount of value because such & such an enforcement agency or government say so doesn't make coins or notes any more stable a form of currency than Bitcoin, which is a decentralized cryptocurrency with a proven track record of success as functional currency in the real world, for private individuals, huge exchanges, & traditional investors alike. If your country gets invaded or experiences some other more incremental catastrophe that destroys its economy, and your currency is suddenly rendered obsolete, you have nowhere to go. That is never going to happen to BTC because it is protected by the exponential growth in computer power & universal enfranchisement of using the internet. The majority have too much invested in these things to allow that economy to implode. Consensus wins, democracy wins. Not ancient Greek democracy or modern Greek democracy, but the universal ethical ideal of reason & transparency & faith in the long-held conviction of a majority.

Hahaha. A block contains data about sender, receiver and a number sent or received. This number is supposed to count coins, that is bitcoins. But no one has those coins. No one ever saw them.

Regarding those blocks and chains of blocks, anyone can download a copy of the blockchain, and it can be inspected to trace the path of numbers sent from one sender to another. So, you defined bitcoin as something that everyone can download for free. Hilarious.
 
The rest of your text is propaganda mixed with pure nonsense. You cannot protect something that doesn't exist. What you protect are numbers next to addresses. But why would anyone protect math abstractions that can be created in everyone's mind in an instant and used for whatever purposes? It's stupidity never seen before.

Stop talking air biscuits you subatomic troll-virus.

Cash is an agreement, it always only existed in the minds of capitalists. You might pretend you are a communist agitator, but as is most often the case with these things, you're more likely some frustrated kid airing his grievances through pseudo intellectual ranting.

I never said anything of the sort. The source-codes & the blockchain can be downloaded for free, not that I actually mentioned this.

A bitcoin itself is a symbol of mathematical computation, it is a proof-of-work electronically protected by codes that you obviously cannot get your head around. So what?

The wallet does not store Bitcoins, because the wallet only records information about transactions, which I suggest you look into a little more before your 'hahaha that makes no sense to a dumb shit like me so how could it make any sense at all' responses.

It is an agreement between traders. We never needed paper or coinage for anything but the storage of value that we ascribe to things and agree to conform to for the sake of transparent economy & ease of trade. Now, we have the advancing AI of modern computers to store this symbolic value for us, which is much more efficient, & doesn't need the fallible & fickle consent of bankers or their spotty sons & that means you

[tbct_mt2]

Do  you think the number you see for your bank account balance is real? It is a credited number and means nothing. Banks printed money from the air and their money can not worth nothing if a whole finance in a nation collapse. Venezuela and their national debt, finance collapse is an example.

Bitcoin requires people to mine it. In order to mine it, they must spend money to buy ASICs, set up mining farms, use electricity, have air ventilation and more things. There are inputs, there are money to mine Bitcoin so Bitcoin has value from mining resources at least.

Fortunately, its value is backed by its technology and by its pioneer role in blockchain.

[Snowshow]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

And here you have practiced two textbook examples of a propagandist:

1.  Keep repeating a lie, "bitcoins aren't real", and hoping it sticks and that some will believe the BS.

2.  "Accusation in a Mirror", as a quote taken from the French psychologist's 1970 book on the topic:

imputing to the adversaries the intentions that one has oneself and/or the action that you are in the process of enacting

That is, you are the one using "language manipulation" to lure people into believe an untruth, and yet you blame others for such actions.

... except that, as you can see, no one here is falling for it.

You know, the same as I, and the same as everyone else who read the OP, that bitcoins don't exist. There's no person on Earth that saw anything else in their wallet but numbers. The whole system, on the other hand, just stores data from which those numbers are calculated. So factually, there are no electronic coins called bitcoins. There's nothing in the ownership of number holders that would be counted with that numers.

So, why are you lying? What are you trying to achieve?

Bro' stop trash talking. Saying BTC doesn't exist is like saying the value that we all agree is stored in the material of & markings on a $100 bill doesn't exist, because nobody can locate this arrangement physically.

Bitcoins are blocks of encrypted information. The physical wallets we may use to send or receive this information, which represents an agreed upon storage of value for exchanging almost any other goods & services, only record transaction information. The fact that BTC does not occupy any more physical space, unless you print off paper wallets which some do, is part of its strength. It is evidence of the streamlining of the commercial currency exchange process. Pieces of paper & metal with markings on them that say this tender is representative of X amount of value because such & such an enforcement agency or government say so doesn't make coins or notes any more stable a form of currency than Bitcoin, which is a decentralized cryptocurrency with a proven track record of success as functional currency in the real world, for private individuals, huge exchanges, & traditional investors alike. If your country gets invaded or experiences some other more incremental catastrophe that destroys its economy, and your currency is suddenly rendered obsolete, you have nowhere to go. That is never going to happen to BTC because it is protected by the exponential growth in computer power & universal enfranchisement of using the internet. The majority have too much invested in these things to allow that economy to implode. Consensus wins, democracy wins. Not ancient Greek democracy or modern Greek democracy, but the universal ethical ideal of reason & transparency & faith in the long-held conviction of a majority.

Hahaha. A block contains data about sender, receiver and a number sent or received. This number is supposed to count coins, that is bitcoins. But no one has those coins. No one ever saw them.

Regarding those blocks and chains of blocks, anyone can download a copy of the blockchain, and it can be inspected to trace the path of numbers sent from one sender to another. So, you defined bitcoin as something that everyone can download for free. Hilarious.
 
The rest of your text is propaganda mixed with pure nonsense. You cannot protect something that doesn't exist. What you protect are numbers next to addresses. But why would anyone protect math abstractions that can be created in everyone's mind in an instant and used for whatever purposes? It's stupidity never seen before.

Stop talking air biscuits you subatomic troll-virus.

Cash is an agreement, it always only existed in the minds of capitalists. You might pretend you are a communist agitator, but as is most often the case with these things, you're more likely some frustrated kid airing his grievances through pseudo intellectual ranting.

I never said anything of the sort. The source-codes & the blockchain can be downloaded for free, not that I actually mentioned this.

A bitcoin itself is a symbol of mathematical computation, it is a proof-of-work electronically protected by codes that you obviously cannot get your head around. So what?

The wallet does not store Bitcoins, because the wallet only records information about transactions, which I suggest you look into a little more before your 'hahaha that makes no sense to a dumb shit like me so how could it make any sense at all' responses.

It is an agreement between traders. We never needed paper or coinage for anything but the storage of value that we ascribe to things and agree to conform to for the sake of transparent economy & ease of trade. Now, we have the advancing AI of modern computers to store this symbolic value for us, which is much more efficient, & doesn't need the fallible & fickle consent of bankers or their spotty sons & that means you

Nakamoto in the their Whitepaper defined "coin", that you people call "bitcoin", in this way: "chain of digital signatures". And you people, here on this forum, have your own personal definitions. Every person that responded to my post, gave me different definition of bitcoin. You're basically fantasizing. Making things up in your mind that have nothing to do with reality. What is that telling you? That the whole thing is one big joke. That's the reason you are pissed off and why you insult people that are just telling you plain and simple truth.

Let's take Nakamoto's definition. If Steve has 1 BTC in his wallet, and Ema 100 BTC, that would mean that Ema has 100 times more "chains of digital signatures" than Steve. What does that even mean? It's a complete nonsense. Chain of digital signatures is stored on blockchain. And everyone can download it for free. So essentially, according to Nakamoto, Ema spent 2 million dollars in order to buy something that is available for free to everyone. That's craziness never seen in human history. Wallet applications are informing you that you own xx units of a thing that you can download for free.

[coolcoinz]

For that matter, the internet isn't material either, but there are many sites on it, this forum for example. Stocks in the markets have long been digital, not physical, which, like bitcoin, can be displayed on your mobile phone screen. Sending a telegram message also consists of numbers. In fact, a lot of things are digital now, but for some reason bitcoin is the only scam. Strange.

It's funny that OP doesn't seem to realize we live in a digital world where these numbers matter and have value.

Op said: The thing which we have just described is a kind of collective delusion, where people, based only on Nakamoto's post, consider themselves the owners of electronic coins, or generally, a digital asset. But all they have, and see with their own eyes to have, are numbers next to their addresses.

Following this thought, we have domains, we have sites, we build companies on these sites, we play online games and sell characters and items for a lot of money, we have digital photos, we buy digital art, we chat and date online, we work online, finish schools and get degrees online, but none of it matters because it isn't real. It's just code, numbers, right?

You got it all wrong. Those that you mentioned are the existing digital things. When we count those things, we get numbers that can be written digitally or on paper. If you buy 10 digital products you can have number 10 written on paper or digital invoice.

So you must be able to distinguish between the two things:

A) Real digital product
B) Number that counts the units of that product

In Nakamoto's system you have B) without A). A) is not real but exists only in people's imagination. You have numbers written on digital media(blockchan), but there's no digital product whose units would be counted with that number. The product is imaginary and mentioned in Whitepaper with two words: "electronic coin", that people now call bitcoin. Bitcoin is not real, but when you write "10 BTC" this creates the illusion it is. It creates the illusion that there's 10 units of an actual product. But no such product exists in reality. You people are the victims of that illusion. Read the OP.
 

So, if you buy bitcoins from me and I sign a poiece of paper saying that I sold them to you, does that make it complete? If yes, I'm fine with giving it to you. If not, It's a bit strange because you are willing to accept a deed signed by someone else, like a hosting company that gives you some disk space to build your website, or another company that says the domain name belongs to you.

You are fine with calling online game currency real, but not bitcoin? You lost me here.

[Snowshow]

For that matter, the internet isn't material either, but there are many sites on it, this forum for example. Stocks in the markets have long been digital, not physical, which, like bitcoin, can be displayed on your mobile phone screen. Sending a telegram message also consists of numbers. In fact, a lot of things are digital now, but for some reason bitcoin is the only scam. Strange.

It's funny that OP doesn't seem to realize we live in a digital world where these numbers matter and have value.

Op said: The thing which we have just described is a kind of collective delusion, where people, based only on Nakamoto's post, consider themselves the owners of electronic coins, or generally, a digital asset. But all they have, and see with their own eyes to have, are numbers next to their addresses.

Following this thought, we have domains, we have sites, we build companies on these sites, we play online games and sell characters and items for a lot of money, we have digital photos, we buy digital art, we chat and date online, we work online, finish schools and get degrees online, but none of it matters because it isn't real. It's just code, numbers, right?

You got it all wrong. Those that you mentioned are the existing digital things. When we count those things, we get numbers that can be written digitally or on paper. If you buy 10 digital products you can have number 10 written on paper or digital invoice.

So you must be able to distinguish between the two things:

A) Real digital product
B) Number that counts the units of that product

In Nakamoto's system you have B) without A). A) is not real but exists only in people's imagination. You have numbers written on digital media(blockchan), but there's no digital product whose units would be counted with that number. The product is imaginary and mentioned in Whitepaper with two words: "electronic coin", that people now call bitcoin. Bitcoin is not real, but when you write "10 BTC" this creates the illusion it is. It creates the illusion that there's 10 units of an actual product. But no such product exists in reality. You people are the victims of that illusion. Read the OP.
 

So, if you buy bitcoins from me and I sign a poiece of paper saying that I sold them to you, does that make it complete? If yes, I'm fine with giving it to you. If not, It's a bit strange because you are willing to accept a deed signed by someone else, like a hosting company that gives you some disk space to build your website, or another company that says the domain name belongs to you.

You are fine with calling online game currency real, but not bitcoin? You lost me here.

I have one simple question for you: "what is bitcoin"? What are you offering me to buy?

[coolcoinz]

I have one simple question for you: "what is bitcoin"? What are you offering me to buy?

I'm not offering you bitcoin, just saying that if I ever happen to sell it to you, I'll be fine with signing a piece of paper saying that I did, because you seem to be attached to invoices and seem to think that if it's signed it becomes "real".

You don't know what bitcoin is? Do you want a link to the white paper? There's s good explanation on investopedia, bitcoin.org and other sites. I also recommend Andreas Antonopoulos on youtube.

[darkangel11]

Numbers can be displayed on my mobile phone screen, not electronic coins that people call bitcoins

Only if you can believe in your fiat digits reflecting the units of your assets on your mobile through alert and same way you can deem fot by going to the bank or bitcoin ATM or p2p to claim those digits into fiat cash that you spend daily, then i see no reason why you should doubt on the digital version of currency that is more improved and decentralized than fiat to be a unit of your account, whereby you can convert your stash or bitcoins into fiat, withdraw it, make use of p2p, and have every digital units of coins from your wallet into a currency you can spend anywhere any time, then why not save yourself the unnecessary stress and give am attempts first and dee if it's monetized or not.

Yeah, that's a classical bitcoin propaganda and language manipulation that is used to lure people into believing bitcoins are real.

You literally ignored everything in the OP, and just repeat the propaganda. Pretty pathetic.

If this is propaganda then please disprove it.

Your idea that every bitcoiner wants to lure people in to gain something from it is also pathetic. This is a multi billion dollar economy. Getting someone to try it out with $10 doesn't change anything for us holders. Even if that person buys a million USD worth of coins it won't make it move by 1%, but it may help that person.

Believe it or not, but when I tell someone to use Bitcoin i have that person's benefit in mind, not my own.

[Snowshow]

I have one simple question for you: "what is bitcoin"? What are you offering me to buy?

I'm not offering you bitcoin, just saying that if I ever happen to sell it to you, I'll be fine with signing a piece of paper saying that I did, because you seem to be attached to invoices and seem to think that if it's signed it becomes "real".

You don't know what bitcoin is? Do you want a link to the white paper? There's s good explanation on investopedia, bitcoin.org and other sites. I also recommend Andreas Antonopoulos on youtube.

So, you are unable to define bitcoin. Just as I thought. If an invoice has 10 iPhone 13 written on it, I have no problem defining what I am selling. The same is true for everything else, from stocks/equities that have quantity written on brokerage accounts or stock certificates, to debt that has quantity written on bank accounts or banknots. But you people are making up your own definitions of bitcoin and all are different. Instead of just admitting that Nakamoto invented nonsense you're acting like some clowns.