How to promote BTCTalk on YouTube?

[ChiBitCTy]

Note -I posted about this once in collectibles and it was moved to off-topic. Cyrus and I chatted briefly about it, and they agreed it didn’t really deserve to be there. Kind of left it at that until now, and believe Meta is appropriate at this point. .

My issue..I promote the forum a good bit & one of the main places I do so is YouTube but the fcks and their censoring algorithm always delete my posts whether I type “bitcointalk” “bitcointalk.org” “physicalbitcoin.com” (this is currently down but used to link to collectibles) “bitcoin talk website” etc etc.

I’m first curious if anyone knows why they censor the hell out of this site (yet don’t censor any bot scam posts). But mainly I’m curious if anyone has a work around?  I often try to help btc coin collectors I randomly find on there, I’ve tried to teach people how to redeem paper wallets etc.. but most of the time its too hard to fool the algorithm well enough to relay my message clearly.  (Curious if the bitcoin talk show faced any of these issues).

My only idea was to try to create a “hidden” hyperlink like I do for work where I have a link in my email body that says “book an Appt with me” but directs to my scheduler site. Guessing the software would likely pick up the  underlying hyperlink?  Any suggestions appreciated.  

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I’m first curious if anyone knows why they censor the hell out of this site (yet don’t censor any bot scam posts).

Google bot is fine to approve scammers adlink but when it's bitcointalk then they have panic LOL.
It must be some strategic movement to create obstacle for Bitcoin.
Anyway, have a custom domain and create a website, blog or service it does not matter. Promote that website and the website will be mainly referring to bitcointalk. It's gonna be a lot of work but once a hyperlink in banned then you have no other way except choosing the hard path.

[Upgrade00]

My issue..I promote the forum a good bit & one of the main places I do so is YouTube but the fcks and their censoring algorithm always delete my posts whether I type “bitcointalk” “bitcointalk.org” “physicalbitcoin.com” (this is currently down but used to link to collectibles) “bitcoin talk website” etc etc.  

This is a curious case. I'm aware of certain restrictions on crypto related words and projects on some platforms, but have not (till now) come across one targeting bitcointalk. It's more curious, considering that bitcointalk is not heavily promoted off the forum to be much of an issue.
The Bitcointalk Show by Cyrus has videos with "Bitcoin" and "Bitcointalk" in the title and they are still up, months after being posted.

My only idea was to try to create a “hidden” hyperlink like I do for work where I have a link in my email body that says “book an Appt with me” but directs to my scheduler site. Guessing the software would likely pick up the  underlying hyperlink?  Any suggestions appreciated. 

Your guess is as good as mine that the software would pick up the underlying link. Google crawlers can read codes of websites and text associated with image tags.
The above suggestion although painstaking, is a good advice that could work.

[jackg]

The Bitcointalk Show by Cyrus has videos with "Bitcoin" and "Bitcointalk" in the title and they are still up, months after being posted.

I think it was an issue of things being hard to find and I don't think the bitcointalk show has been recommended to me even though many videos on cryptocurrency have - I'd be curious to see how many of their views come from subscribers or link clickers and how many come from the YouTube algorithm but I'm not sure if cyrus could get this data.


@op, have you tried using url shorteners? You could put one of those in instead of directly linking to bitcointalk and then have clues in the video as to what the link is when you reference it - so you don't mention it in the description and have your video do badly.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Newbie welcome video - 3 videos complete

Having official Youtube account for Bitcointalk forum is good but if we don't have it, the community can contribute to make Bitcointalk forum great again by creating videos like above.

It helps newbies to understand more about forum rules and about Bitcoin, cryptoccurency. It will help to catch more people to join the forum if they have difficulty and find answer from videos made by Bitcointalk members.

[mk4]

Probably an unpopular opinion and I apologize that this is not the answer you're looking for:

Kudos to you for promoting this forum, but I don't think people that watch crypto videos on YouTube aren't the ones that would be interested in an online forum. There's a reason why the likes of "top 10 altcoins to buy this month!" are the ones that gets a lot of attention, not the actual informative/educative videos.

[PX-Z]

It's on their algo already, external links are more probably will be blocked on the comment section ^{(particularly crypto related stuffs)}. I remember crypto-related channels videos were removed ^{(But eventually recovered after some reviews)} due to some censorship update they did or whatever it is.

Might be better to use a link shortener like bitly but don't make it clickable when you comment, like anyone will just copy it or just type it since its shorter.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I’m first curious if anyone knows why they censor the hell out of this site (yet don’t censor any bot scam posts). But mainly I’m curious if anyone has a work around?  

That's interesting (but more so disturbing) that Google's doing this.  I haven't a clue why they'd want to censor anything related to bitcointalk, but I do know they're on a serious censorship binge in general--at least if you want to get your videos monetized.  You may have noticed there's a blacklist of words, which include COVID, rape (and pretty much anything sexual), curse words, and some other ones that just perplex me.  I only know about them because I'm seeing them bleeped out of videos.

I was also wondering where the forum's Youtube channel had gone to, and whether it had been scrapped altogether, as the thread for it has died off.  I'm thinking it's probably because YT told the creator that they couldn't monetize it, perhaps?

There's a reason why the likes of "top 10 altcoins to buy this month!" are the ones that gets a lot of attention, not the actual informative/educative videos.

Yep.  Amazing how YT allows all of those videos with idiots not giving financial advice but censors all of this other, non-hype stuff.  Actually, it's not amazing.  It's pathetic, as is Google.

[dkbit98]

I’m first curious if anyone knows why they censor the hell out of this site (yet don’t censor any bot scam posts). But mainly I’m curious if anyone has a work around?

Maybe you can ask Cyrus for potential solutions and workarounds for this problem.
If I remember correctly he or someone else created bitcointalk shorter links that worked at the time after Bitcointalk youtube channel was created.
We obviously need to speak and write in codes on yotube for many things to avoid bans and content deletion, or simply use some alternative video platform that is less restrictive.

[JollyGood]

My only idea was to try to create a “hidden” hyperlink like I do for work where I have a link in my email body that says “book an Appt with me” but directs to my scheduler site. Guessing the software would likely pick up the  underlying hyperlink?  Any suggestions appreciated.  

What about an open hyperlink using a short URL? Would their algorithm censor it when left in a comments section?

@op, have you tried using url shorteners? You could put one of those in instead of directly linking to bitcointalk and then have clues in the video as to what the link is when you reference it - so you don't mention it in the description and have your video do badly.

That was also my suggestion. It might work if there is no reference attached, just a short URL.

It's on their algo already, external links are more probably will be blocked on the comment section ^{(particularly crypto related stuffs)}. I remember crypto-related channels videos were removed ^{(But eventually recovered after some reviews)} due to some censorship update they did or whatever it is.

Might be better to use a link shortener like bitly but don't make it clickable when you comment, like anyone will just copy it or just type it since its shorter.

I am sure I have seen Youtube links left in the comments section referencing to a different URL but I cannot recall seeing external URLs.

There's a reason why the likes of "top 10 altcoins to buy this month!" are the ones that gets a lot of attention, not the actual informative/educative videos.

Yep.  Amazing how YT allows all of those videos with idiots not giving financial advice but censors all of this other, non-hype stuff.  Actually, it's not amazing.  It's pathetic, as is Google.

Maybe there is a method to the madness when it comes to their algorithms but I cannot see it right now. It does not make sense to me if they are blocking links/URLs but not removing the videos based on the same topics those links/URLs point to.

[mk4]

Yep.  Amazing how YT allows all of those videos with idiots not giving financial advice but censors all of this other, non-hype stuff.  Actually, it's not amazing.  It's pathetic, as is Google.

I blame the watchers more than I blame YouTube to be honest. The clickbait stuff gets algorithmically recommended a lot simply because people watch them more than the educative ones. Unfortunately this type of algorithm really works well when it comes to entertainment content, but mostly bad for education.

[PX-Z]

I am sure I have seen Youtube links left in the comments section referencing to a different URL but I cannot recall seeing external URLs.

Yes, it's still possible. I checked crypto related vids on youtube and i can only seen external URLs in the comment are those exchange related like this two.



I tried to search bitcointalk related vids and checked every comments made but unfortunately there is no bitcointalk URL posted even those old YT vids like 4-6 yrs ago.

Maybe bitcointalk is labeled as suspicious or whatever it is just like what wikipedia describes this forum.

[UserU]

Probably an unpopular opinion and I apologize that this is not the answer you're looking for:

Kudos to you for promoting this forum, but I don't think people that watch crypto videos on YouTube aren't the ones that would be interested in an online forum. There's a reason why the likes of "top 10 altcoins to buy this month!" are the ones that gets a lot of attention, not the actual informative/educative videos.

Truth be told, many don't really care about the tech or fundamentals, rather on how to make stonks

[JollyGood]

Thank you for clearing up the issue. It means if these types of links are available and can be posted then maybe what is happening with the Youtube algorithm is related to the keyword "bitcointalk" otherwise how is it possible Kucoin and Blockchain links are not removed?

I am sure I have seen Youtube links left in the comments section referencing to a different URL but I cannot recall seeing external URLs.

Yes, it's still possible. I checked crypto related vids on youtube and i can only seen external URLs in the comment are those exchange related like this two.



I tried to search bitcointalk related vids and checked every comments made but unfortunately there is no bitcointalk URL posted even those old YT vids like 4-6 yrs ago.

Maybe bitcointalk is labeled as suspicious or whatever it is just like what wikipedia describes this forum.

[ChiBitCTy]

Probably an unpopular opinion and I apologize that this is not the answer you're looking for:

Kudos to you for promoting this forum, but I don't think people that watch crypto videos on YouTube aren't the ones that would be interested in an online forum. There's a reason why the likes of "top 10 altcoins to buy this month!" are the ones that gets a lot of attention, not the actual informative/educative videos.

You might be surprised, but either way every bit of promotion helps.  Being an avid physical btc collector I will search for physical crypto videos every month or so. I’ve found a lot of videos of people who show their collections, I’ve seen quite a few videos of people who are asking how can they best sell thier Casascius coin, or how to redeem their Casascius coin etc.  I always reach out to these people and have gotten a few to sign up here, but then there’s others who don’t speak very good English who just can’t pick up on my hints trying to direct them here. Again, I think you might be surprised at how many people would be interested in this forum. YouTube , Twitter and Reddit are the number one places people go to for learning, and most have no clue at all who are actually legit educators. I mean there’s complete morons/scammers who have twice the followers of Andreas A, simply because he doesn’t do shit to promote like the others do.  At the very least you have to try imo.

@everyone else, thanks for the comments / suggestions. I will try to do the hidden hyperlinks / link shortners and see how it goes. Of course if anyone else has any other ideas please let me know ! (And a link to sites to do so would be greatly appreciated)

[Mate2237]

My issue..I promote the forum a good bit & one of the main places I do so is YouTube_

That is a very good advertisement and promotion of bitcoin but the question is how many user are watching bitcoin videos in youtube. Really and frankly speaking, I have not used youtube for bitcoin, but I always engage on article reading and online books. And also since you said you are using youtube to promote bitcoin why didn't you at least one of the youtube bitcoin video that has been created by you and drop the link here for users to see how it is. Now that you are saying the verbal aspect of the project but the practical aspect is still missing. Therefore, mods might still move it to off-topic because there is no fact about it.

[virasog]

Probably an unpopular opinion and I apologize that this is not the answer you're looking for:

Kudos to you for promoting this forum, but I don't think people that watch crypto videos on YouTube aren't the ones that would be interested in an online forum. There's a reason why the likes of "top 10 altcoins to buy this month!" are the ones that gets a lot of attention, not the actual informative/educative videos.

There is nothing we can do about the Youtube algorithm. The only thing to bypass this censorship is to promote and talk about bitcointalk within those "Top 10 coins" videos 

Another option may be to promote bitcointalk on other video sharing platforms though the audience there may not be as large as on the youtube platform.

[OgNasty]

The best way to promote anything on youtube is to make videos.  I don't think commenting is a good use of time, as most people will just assume they're bots.  Look at MrBeast.  It took him years of making videos and some of them are impossible to sit through (try and watch his counting videos).  Now he has tens of millions of people watching him and anything he promoted would go crazy. 

Start making weekly videos or even daily videos about bitcointalk.  Mention users and make it entertaining.  Who knows what could happen.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I blame the watchers more than I blame YouTube to be honest. The clickbait stuff gets algorithmically recommended a lot simply because people watch them more than the educative ones. Unfortunately this type of algorithm really works well when it comes to entertainment content, but mostly bad for education.

I know, but it seems like nobody really makes strictly informational videos these days precisely because they know it's the videos with the super-hyped up thumbnails and with some guy nearly screaming at the top of his lungs about whatever the topic is that gets the views and hence the ad revenue.  And it's not just crypto videos, either; it applies to nearly every subject matter you could possibly think of.

Another option may be to promote bitcointalk on other video sharing platforms though the audience there may not be as large as on the youtube platform.

Yeah well, that's like trying to sell things online without using eBay or Amazon or whatever's the most popular retailer in your country--the eyeballs are all on Youtube, so if you want to get your message across (and/or get paid for making videos), it's the only viable option.

Besides, I've tried to find alternatives to Youtube and nothing even comes close.  They might be censoring fucks, but they've got the widest variety of content by far, and the easiest site to navigate and use IMO.

[mk4]

You might be surprised, but either way every bit of promotion helps.

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That's technically true. But as a dude who does marketing, trust me when I say that it's really not worth the effort. Blogs/articles are a far better medium for promoting an online forum.

I know, but it seems like nobody really makes strictly informational videos these days precisely because they know it's the videos with the super-hyped up thumbnails and with some guy nearly screaming at the top of his lungs about whatever the topic is that gets the views and hence the ad revenue.  And it's not just crypto videos, either; it applies to nearly every subject matter you could possibly think of.

Unfortunately they're really just hard to find; usually you find them through personal recommendations. Kinda unlikely for people to stumble upon those via the YouTube algorithm.