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~~~ I don't think Bivol cares much about the money. Former Soviet fighters are more glory hunters rather than money. Bivol already rejected Canelo's offer for the undisputed titles at super-middleweight. Bivol is a small light-heavyweight and I believe he can make the super-middleweight limit with no difficulty. But he opted to stay at 175 and openly mentioned that he wanted to fight 3-belt champion Beterbiev for the undisputed championships.
No one fights for charity. Bivol is putting so much time and effort in to this, and he deserves a decent payout. If I am not mistaken, he is yet to receive any payment for his win against Canelo. Bivol is a Russian citizen, and there is a blanket ban on wired bank transactions to Russian citizens from the United States. The organizers should have taken care of this, but I guess they never thought that Bivol would win the fight. It is not the question of whether Bivol cares about the money or not. He deserves that amount and it should be credited without much delay. Yes, we are in the modern era of boxing, every boxer now goes for the money. And it's just just to hear that Bivol hasn't received the money that he deserved after winning against Canelo. They should have done something by now that they have made the money to Bivol's part. And so the next fight, in cases he won against Ramirez, everything should be settled already. Something that Bivol's camps need to make sure by now before this fight against Zurdo, like what you all mentioned, it's no longer the old day where fighters are more to fame, nowadays, after the success of those prime legends like Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's more on the money side, fighters are willing to do everything to enjoy the luxury of being the champ and having lots of money to enjoy life. And I'm pretty sure Bivol also loves to enjoy that privilege after beating Alvarez and put his name at the top. On his upcoming fight, he might collect more money now and if he will win the chance of making more once Alvarez calls for the rematch. Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East.
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~~~ I don't think Bivol cares much about the money. Former Soviet fighters are more glory hunters rather than money. Bivol already rejected Canelo's offer for the undisputed titles at super-middleweight. Bivol is a small light-heavyweight and I believe he can make the super-middleweight limit with no difficulty. But he opted to stay at 175 and openly mentioned that he wanted to fight 3-belt champion Beterbiev for the undisputed championships.
No one fights for charity. Bivol is putting so much time and effort in to this, and he deserves a decent payout. If I am not mistaken, he is yet to receive any payment for his win against Canelo. Bivol is a Russian citizen, and there is a blanket ban on wired bank transactions to Russian citizens from the United States. The organizers should have taken care of this, but I guess they never thought that Bivol would win the fight. It is not the question of whether Bivol cares about the money or not. He deserves that amount and it should be credited without much delay. Yes, we are in the modern era of boxing, every boxer now goes for the money. And it's just just to hear that Bivol hasn't received the money that he deserved after winning against Canelo. They should have done something by now that they have made the money to Bivol's part. And so the next fight, in cases he won against Ramirez, everything should be settled already. Something that Bivol's camps need to make sure by now before this fight against Zurdo, like what you all mentioned, it's no longer the old day where fighters are more to fame, nowadays, after the success of those prime legends like Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's more on the money side, fighters are willing to do everything to enjoy the luxury of being the champ and having lots of money to enjoy life. And I'm pretty sure Bivol also loves to enjoy that privilege after beating Alvarez and put his name at the top. On his upcoming fight, he might collect more money now and if he will win the chance of making more once Alvarez calls for the rematch. Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East. That is likely the case for Bivol, the sanctions of the US against Russia is still up until now, pressuring the Russia to withdraw the war. That said, it is affecting the Russian athletes as it's very difficult for them to get what they deserved. Sports and politics shouldn't be mixed, it's just too ugly. Well, I understand why the organizers chose Abu Dhabi because the place is neutral and Bivol won't have some difficulties getting his paycheck after the fight.
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Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer.
As long as it will contribute to pressuring Russia, they will just do whatever it takes. They should not really look into Bivol being a Russian or to any athletes but since the Russian President is just also doing what he wants whatever it takes, it affects their athletes. But I'm sure it's not that Bivol is really receiving bad treatment most of them. He will get what he deserves to get. The world is not that harsh to Russian athletes.
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What do you guys think about Ramirez claiming that this fight took so long to materialized because Bivol's camp is afraid with him. Is it LOL or it makes sense? Might be true that there are hindrances but I think it's not about Bivol is afraid with him. That's too much to think on their side. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If we disregard the boxer's ability and just look at the boxer's record then it makes sense. Since Ramirez record shows more fighting experience and KO percentage. But patching all together, it is somehow like LOL. But who knows, often times manager and promoters often avoid matching an opponent that may defeat their boxer. If it isn't for the WBA ordering Bivol to have a defense against Ramirez, I doubt this fight will happen. Well, according to what I have seen, Bivol is a very hard and radical boxer, from what I know of the Russians it is very rare for ekllows to be afraid of someone, in general they are not afraid of anyone, no matter how good they are well they get excited to fight with someone who they say is stronger than them, they are very competitive and have many strategies, besides what he showed with Canelo was a great level, in part that was why the fight between Canelo and GGG did not It was very exciting, because it would have been epic if Canelo had beaten him, however Ramírez is a born boxer who has everything to win, I don't know very well how his preparation is, I don't have details, I couldn't say who could lean me to bet. ~~~ I don't think Bivol cares much about the money. Former Soviet fighters are more glory hunters rather than money. Bivol already rejected Canelo's offer for the undisputed titles at super-middleweight. Bivol is a small light-heavyweight and I believe he can make the super-middleweight limit with no difficulty. But he opted to stay at 175 and openly mentioned that he wanted to fight 3-belt champion Beterbiev for the undisputed championships.
No one fights for charity. Bivol is putting so much time and effort in to this, and he deserves a decent payout. If I am not mistaken, he is yet to receive any payment for his win against Canelo. Bivol is a Russian citizen, and there is a blanket ban on wired bank transactions to Russian citizens from the United States. The organizers should have taken care of this, but I guess they never thought that Bivol would win the fight. It is not the question of whether Bivol cares about the money or not. He deserves that amount and it should be credited without much delay. Yes, we are in the modern era of boxing, every boxer now goes for the money. And it's just just to hear that Bivol hasn't received the money that he deserved after winning against Canelo. They should have done something by now that they have made the money to Bivol's part. And so the next fight, in cases he won against Ramirez, everything should be settled already. Something that Bivol's camps need to make sure by now before this fight against Zurdo, like what you all mentioned, it's no longer the old day where fighters are more to fame, nowadays, after the success of those prime legends like Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's more on the money side, fighters are willing to do everything to enjoy the luxury of being the champ and having lots of money to enjoy life. And I'm pretty sure Bivol also loves to enjoy that privilege after beating Alvarez and put his name at the top. On his upcoming fight, he might collect more money now and if he will win the chance of making more once Alvarez calls for the rematch. Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East. That is likely the case for Bivol, the sanctions of the US against Russia is still up until now, pressuring the Russia to withdraw the war. That said, it is affecting the Russian athletes as it's very difficult for them to get what they deserved. Sports and politics shouldn't be mixed, it's just too ugly. Well, I understand why the organizers chose Abu Dhabi because the place is neutral and Bivol won't have some difficulties getting his paycheck after the fight. This is very interesting, I didn't know that in Dubai they were neutral, so this is a paradise for Russians, I think it's excellent that they can do something like this to be able to have fights with the best boxers in the world, I don't really care if it comes from Russia or wherever, I think that here it should prevail that they are good athletes and nothing else, however I think that before this, as always, the first thing is the business model, if the fight attracts many people, it is obvious that it will happen It will not matter that it is Russian, in this type of event I think that the fights can take place, because if it is a lot of money, the one that moves, I do not think they will say No. Things are heating up because the boxer says the following: Zurdo Ramirez: No one can help Dmitry Bivol in the ring against me![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw0Bf5G4.png&t=665&c=_dpxZCp2CN4Vug) “I am very ready for this,” he said at a media day on Wednsday. “The entire world will see Zurdo Ramirez and all the potential I have.
“At the end of the day, it’s just going to be me, him, and the referee inside of the ring. No one can help him once he is in the ring with me.” Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/9/22/23367977/zurdo-ramirez-no-one-can-help-dmitry-bivol-in-ring-against-me-dazn-boxing-news-2022Things are getting hot, and this is very good, because it makes the bets interesting, this can change all the bets that you want to make, maybe Zurdo doesn't eat the Russian, this is what I like about boxing, that there are no fears of any kind.
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~~~ I don't think Bivol cares much about the money. Former Soviet fighters are more glory hunters rather than money. Bivol already rejected Canelo's offer for the undisputed titles at super-middleweight. Bivol is a small light-heavyweight and I believe he can make the super-middleweight limit with no difficulty. But he opted to stay at 175 and openly mentioned that he wanted to fight 3-belt champion Beterbiev for the undisputed championships.
No one fights for charity. Bivol is putting so much time and effort in to this, and he deserves a decent payout. If I am not mistaken, he is yet to receive any payment for his win against Canelo. Bivol is a Russian citizen, and there is a blanket ban on wired bank transactions to Russian citizens from the United States. The organizers should have taken care of this, but I guess they never thought that Bivol would win the fight. It is not the question of whether Bivol cares about the money or not. He deserves that amount and it should be credited without much delay. Yes, we are in the modern era of boxing, every boxer now goes for the money. And it's just just to hear that Bivol hasn't received the money that he deserved after winning against Canelo. They should have done something by now that they have made the money to Bivol's part. And so the next fight, in cases he won against Ramirez, everything should be settled already. Something that Bivol's camps need to make sure by now before this fight against Zurdo, like what you all mentioned, it's no longer the old day where fighters are more to fame, nowadays, after the success of those prime legends like Mayweather and Pacquiao, it's more on the money side, fighters are willing to do everything to enjoy the luxury of being the champ and having lots of money to enjoy life. And I'm pretty sure Bivol also loves to enjoy that privilege after beating Alvarez and put his name at the top. On his upcoming fight, he might collect more money now and if he will win the chance of making more once Alvarez calls for the rematch. Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East. That is likely the case for Bivol, the sanctions of the US against Russia is still up until now, pressuring the Russia to withdraw the war. That said, it is affecting the Russian athletes as it's very difficult for them to get what they deserved. Sports and politics shouldn't be mixed, it's just too ugly. Well, I understand why the organizers chose Abu Dhabi because the place is neutral and Bivol won't have some difficulties getting his paycheck after the fight. This is very interesting, I didn't know that in Dubai they were neutral, so this is a paradise for Russians, I think it's excellent that they can do something like this to be able to have fights with the best boxers in the world, I don't really care if it comes from Russia or wherever, I think that here it should prevail that they are good athletes and nothing else, however I think that before this, as always, the first thing is the business model, if the fight attracts many people, it is obvious that it will happen It will not matter that it is Russian, in this type of event I think that the fights can take place, because if it is a lot of money, the one that moves, I do not think they will say No. Yes, the UAE has been a neutral place since then and they chose to maintain their stand because they know that it could ruin their diplomatic ties to USA and Russia if they start to pick sides. They are right about that and actually there's a saying that goes "a friend to all, enemy to none", and that's what their country did. That's why the organizers have chose Abu Dhabi (Capital of UAE) because it's neutral and it can be profitable for them as well because the country is rich. Also, that Bivol vs Canelo fight was almost held in Dubai for the same reason.
Things are heating up because the boxer says the following: Zurdo Ramirez: No one can help Dmitry Bivol in the ring against me![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw0Bf5G4.png&t=665&c=_dpxZCp2CN4Vug) “I am very ready for this,” he said at a media day on Wednsday. “The entire world will see Zurdo Ramirez and all the potential I have.
“At the end of the day, it’s just going to be me, him, and the referee inside of the ring. No one can help him once he is in the ring with me.” Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/9/22/23367977/zurdo-ramirez-no-one-can-help-dmitry-bivol-in-ring-against-me-dazn-boxing-news-2022Things are getting hot, and this is very good, because it makes the bets interesting, this can change all the bets that you want to make, maybe Zurdo doesn't eat the Russian, this is what I like about boxing, that there are no fears of any kind. Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that.
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk.
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Yes, it's more of a mental aspects for some boxers, they really have to tell it to the outside world to show that they are very confident against anyone, in this case Ramirez vs Bivol. But when the bell rings, everything is 0-0, no more trash talking, you really need to proved that you say before the fight. And if you can't back it up and Bivol dominates him, then it's obvious that he is just pure talk. And maybe there are some boxers, who are not so brandish but they run the show inside the ring.
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September 26, 2022, 01:34:30 PM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts.
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September 26, 2022, 06:35:47 PM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Maybe, he's also saying that so people will get their interest on their fight. Though I believe, a lot of boxing fans are already waiting for this, however, additional controversy would help them sell their tickets fast. He maybe confident with himself, but we all know that we will see their true capability when they are both inside the ring. He knows he's the underdog in this fight. So he better perform well inside the ring as much as what he's saying to the public.
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September 26, 2022, 08:24:09 PM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Maybe, he's also saying that so people will get their interest on their fight. Though I believe, a lot of boxing fans are already waiting for this, however, additional controversy would help them sell their tickets fast. He maybe confident with himself, but we all know that we will see their true capability when they are both inside the ring. He knows he's the underdog in this fight. So he better perform well inside the ring as much as what he's saying to the public. Maybe also it's part of him that really wanted to voice out what he thinks he can do but for my opinion it's really part of the marketing to bring engagement to readers and viewers, they wanted to hype the fight and create kinds of scenery before the fight start, like what you said it will help the ticket sales and with that they will earn a lot. More on attracting audiences and even Zurdo feels that way. He still needs to prove what he's saying. It's easier to say than done, like what we mostly hear. It's his opinion that he can beat Bivol but it will only be proven when they are already inside the ring and his name proclaimed as a winner.
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September 27, 2022, 04:15:28 PM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts. Fortunately, that didn't happen because I know Bivol already heard the issues that Canelo have the judges in his back in case he needed an extra stretch. Might be the reason why Bivol made the fight his project to win the almost all rounds as he could, so that Canelo can't have that help that he needed. It was so evident that Bivol won't be defeated in that fight especially when Canelo gave signs of frustrations because he knew that in that specific fight he will be defeated. As for this fight, I'm expecting an all-out war between the two undefeated boxer in light-heavy because both of them are capable in receiving and giving heavy blows that could result in KO or TKO. Although Bivol is good and have a good IQ in the ring, I still expect that Zurdo will have some aces in his sleeve that will surprise the defending champion. Also, we cannot discount Zurdo's KO ratio that is almost 70%.
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September 27, 2022, 09:00:11 PM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts. I think he will try to go for a knockout here, but i guess Ramirez being the bigger fighter, Bivol might have a difficulty achieving it. In any case, we have seen that he can bang and the uses his technical skills, just like what he did against Canelo. So if he dominates Ramirez, then I guess it will be the same as win though and then fans are going to pumped again because he will be having a rematch with another Mexican.
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September 28, 2022, 07:49:54 AM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts. I think he will try to go for a knockout here, but i guess Ramirez being the bigger fighter, Bivol might have a difficulty achieving it. In any case, we have seen that he can bang and the uses his technical skills, just like what he did against Canelo. So if he dominates Ramirez, then I guess it will be the same as win though and then fans are going to pumped again because he will be having a rematch with another Mexican. Yes, Bivol is already used to beat boxers who are taller than him and he already proved that he can outboxed them using his speed and IQ inside the ring, but I'm also thinking that we might underestimating Ramirez that much because seeing his few fights, I can also tell that Ramirez is not an easy opponent to defeat which explains why he got a pretty record and also undefeated just like Bivol.
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September 28, 2022, 09:45:26 AM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts. I think he will try to go for a knockout here, but i guess Ramirez being the bigger fighter, Bivol might have a difficulty achieving it. In any case, we have seen that he can bang and the uses his technical skills, just like what he did against Canelo. So if he dominates Ramirez, then I guess it will be the same as win though and then fans are going to pumped again because he will be having a rematch with another Mexican. Yes, Bivol is already used to beat boxers who are taller than him and he already proved that he can outboxed them using his speed and IQ inside the ring, but I'm also thinking that we might underestimating Ramirez that much because seeing his few fights, I can also tell that Ramirez is not an easy opponent to defeat which explains why he got a pretty record and also undefeated just like Bivol. Maybe the outcome of Bivol vs Alvarez fight still lingering in most minds of the viewers and fans, but yeah, better not underestimate another strong fighter, like Ramirez. He's capable of beating Bivol with the reach and height advantage he can fight like Ugas fighting Pacquiao just guard his critical point and throw jabs that will convert into score. Inside the ring, we don't know what will happen. The chance of both fighters to win is the same as long as we don't hear a name being announced as the winner, we can't conclude who will win.
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September 28, 2022, 09:58:21 AM |
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Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East.
They really need to stay out of it and let the Boxer enjoy his earnings but since huge money is involved, they won't let him slide with it. It's really hard when it comes to money because everyone seems interested in it and they want to get some of it. Poor guy, they should fix everything and don't let it be like that again before the fight because, for the boxers, chances like this are rare because they only fight a few times in a year and sometimes they don't get the same high payments before simply because they're fighting different opponents most of the time.
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September 28, 2022, 11:17:10 AM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts. I think he will try to go for a knockout here, but i guess Ramirez being the bigger fighter, Bivol might have a difficulty achieving it. In any case, we have seen that he can bang and the uses his technical skills, just like what he did against Canelo. So if he dominates Ramirez, then I guess it will be the same as win though and then fans are going to pumped again because he will be having a rematch with another Mexican. Yes, Bivol is already used to beat boxers who are taller than him and he already proved that he can outboxed them using his speed and IQ inside the ring, but I'm also thinking that we might underestimating Ramirez that much because seeing his few fights, I can also tell that Ramirez is not an easy opponent to defeat which explains why he got a pretty record and also undefeated just like Bivol. That will be his biggest mistakes if he underestimate Ramirez, and so I doubt that. Although he beat Canelo, he should still push himself in every fight. Remember he is looking for a big pay day next, so if he lost this one, chances are Canelo might not want to fight him any more. We as fans look for the records, opponents that Ramirez face before, but as boxers, I don't think they see it. The most important thing is the fight that is in front of them, not who Ramirez beat in the past.
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September 28, 2022, 04:42:46 PM |
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Well, it's not new anymore that people wanted some spices before the actual fight to somehow make the fight more interesting. I know Zurdo is one of a kind but he needs to prove himself first against Bivol before starts boasting and saying lines like that. If that is what he believes, then we just have to let it that way. Zurdo might be boasting but actually, he won't have the guts to say things like that if he's not sure about it. Might be because of his perfect record, he thinks achieving it is really difficult although he's correct on that regardless of the level of popularity of those he fought before. Against Bivol, this might be the biggest fight of his career that's why he is pumped up. Let's wait if his talks is not just about talk. Well, if Bivol hasn't fought Canelo earlier then this will be a normal fight for Zurdo. Golden Boy Promotions would be the sole promoter and there is a possibility that they will rob Bivol of a victory if there are rounds that are a little close. Back to reality, I hope both fighters are in their best condition. I love the neutral venue which is beneficial to the defending champion. I know Bivol is in love with boxing technique but I would love to see knockdowns and knockouts. I think he will try to go for a knockout here, but i guess Ramirez being the bigger fighter, Bivol might have a difficulty achieving it. In any case, we have seen that he can bang and the uses his technical skills, just like what he did against Canelo. So if he dominates Ramirez, then I guess it will be the same as win though and then fans are going to pumped again because he will be having a rematch with another Mexican. Yes, Bivol is already used to beat boxers who are taller than him and he already proved that he can outboxed them using his speed and IQ inside the ring, but I'm also thinking that we might underestimating Ramirez that much because seeing his few fights, I can also tell that Ramirez is not an easy opponent to defeat which explains why he got a pretty record and also undefeated just like Bivol. Maybe the outcome of Bivol vs Alvarez fight still lingering in most minds of the viewers and fans, but yeah, better not underestimate another strong fighter, like Ramirez. He's capable of beating Bivol with the reach and height advantage he can fight like Ugas fighting Pacquiao just guard his critical point and throw jabs that will convert into score. Inside the ring, we don't know what will happen. The chance of both fighters to win is the same as long as we don't hear a name being announced as the winner, we can't conclude who will win. Well, we cannot really blame those people and Bivol deserved the hype because defeating Canelo is really not easy to do but let's not forget that the latter was just a guest to Bivol's comfortable division, so he got the advantage aside from the height and reach difference between the two. This time, Bivol is the smaller one and he is against a much more experienced boxer than him who's been climbing up and down through divisions. Not just that, Ramirez is has more accuracy when it comes to defeating foes by a way of knockout. This got to be an interesting fight where Bivol will be tested again.
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September 29, 2022, 12:19:30 PM |
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Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East.
They really need to stay out of it and let the Boxer enjoy his earnings but since huge money is involved, they won't let him slide with it. It's really hard when it comes to money because everyone seems interested in it and they want to get some of it. Poor guy, they should fix everything and don't let it be like that again before the fight because, for the boxers, chances like this are rare because they only fight a few times in a year and sometimes they don't get the same high payments before simply because they're fighting different opponents most of the time. Maybe the US authorities wanted Bivol's purse paid in tranches. But I still believe that Bivol will get paid without deductions. And Eddie Hearn can help him with it. I'm also glad that this fight venue is in the United Arab Emirates. It will be neutral and Eddie Hearn actually has more influence in the Middle East than Zurdo and his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya. I'm not sure if Hearns and Dela Hoya are already on good terms after the Canelo drama earlier but in the fight conference I only saw Golden Boy Promotions president Eric Gomez who represented Zurdo while Hearn was there for Bivol.
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Bivol didn't got his money until now? That's harsh! The government should stop interfering from the activities in the sports industry because the people are trying to make a living while putting their lives at stake, Bivol shouldn't be an exemption even if he's a Russian boxer. Unfortunately, I think Bivol will likely receive his paycheck from that fight when the war cools down because until now there's still some conflict going on in Eastern Ukraine. I guess that's exactly the reason why the Bivol-Ramirez fight will take place in the Middle East.
They really need to stay out of it and let the Boxer enjoy his earnings but since huge money is involved, they won't let him slide with it. It's really hard when it comes to money because everyone seems interested in it and they want to get some of it. Poor guy, they should fix everything and don't let it be like that again before the fight because, for the boxers, chances like this are rare because they only fight a few times in a year and sometimes they don't get the same high payments before simply because they're fighting different opponents most of the time. Maybe the US authorities wanted Bivol's purse paid in tranches. But I still believe that Bivol will get paid without deductions. And Eddie Hearn can help him with it. I'm also glad that this fight venue is in the United Arab Emirates. It will be neutral and Eddie Hearn actually has more influence in the Middle East than Zurdo and his promoter Oscar Dela Hoya. I'm not sure if Hearns and Dela Hoya are already on good terms after the Canelo drama earlier but in the fight conference I only saw Golden Boy Promotions president Eric Gomez who represented Zurdo while Hearn was there for Bivol. Or maybe Bivol will just get his paycheck if the war is finished, although that could take time but I really hope that Bivol could hold what is his even before the war ends because these boxers aren't really connected to it, they are just too unfortunate that they are Russian that is why they are affected in this conflict because of the US's. Same here, I'm glad to know that the fight will happen in Abu Dhabi where there's no conflict no matter what race you are, organizers might get more money from the viewing public in the Middle East compared to USA. 1 month more before we can witness this epic fight!
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September 29, 2022, 11:25:50 PM |
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That will be his biggest mistakes if he underestimate Ramirez, and so I doubt that. Although he beat Canelo, he should still push himself in every fight. Remember he is looking for a big pay day next, so if he lost this one, chances are Canelo might not want to fight him any more. We as fans look for the records, opponents that Ramirez face before, but as boxers, I don't think they see it. The most important thing is the fight that is in front of them, not who Ramirez beat in the past.
That winning mentalities should be remain the same with Bivol, his name are hype after beating Canelo so if he wants to keep that popularity he needed to continue winning whoever his opponent might be, though on my own opinion Bivol's will not take this fight easy, he knows that each opponent have their capabilities to knock him down so he will train also and be prepared for these upcoming fight. It will be depends on whoever will be more prepared once they step inside the ring. I would like to see more with Bivol's quick response and great defensive movements. Something that Canelo didn't expect when they met inside the ring, simple jabs then protect his face and body, not allowing Canelo to break his defense.
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