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Question: What will be the outcome of this fight?
Bivol decision. - 8 (26.7%)
Bivol knockout. - 12 (40%)
Ramirez decision. - 9 (30%)
Ramirez knockout. - 1 (3.3%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
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November 09, 2022, 12:13:45 PM
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Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

Yeah, he can fight Canelo even in the Super Middleweight division as he has no problem dealing with the scales as what he said on the post-fight interview which i think is a win-win for both Canelo and Bivol because if Bivol wins then he becomes the undisputed super-middleweight champion while Canelo won't have to add muscles for this fight like what he did when they met at light heavyweight.

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November 09, 2022, 12:27:40 PM
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After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.


As long as Bivol will take a higher cut the fight between Canelo will still be a good money fight for him, after we witness how he dominated the fight against Ramirez, it gives him entire credit for defending his title, Now, the chance of Canelo to challenge and have a rematch will be an interesting one to watch out, maybe there are negotiation that needed to settle between these two fighters, but for the fans once Canelo calls for this fight it will surely gain interest from the fans.

Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

Yeah, he can fight Canelo even in the Super Middleweight division as he has no problem dealing with the scales as what he said on the post-fight interview which i think is a win-win for both Canelo and Bivol because if Bivol wins then he becomes the undisputed super-middleweight champion while Canelo won't have to add muscles for this fight like what he did when they met at light heavyweight.

If Bivol will be true to his word, then the said possible upcoming fight will be more interesting, Canelo don't need to add muscles and will be fighting on his comfort zone, while Bivol as you said, don't have any issue meeting the scale, if he win against Canelo again it will be an added title to him.

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November 09, 2022, 12:43:00 PM
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Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

Yeah, he can fight Canelo even in the Super Middleweight division as he has no problem dealing with the scales as what he said on the post-fight interview which i think is a win-win for both Canelo and Bivol because if Bivol wins then he becomes the undisputed super-middleweight champion while Canelo won't have to add muscles for this fight like what he did when they met at light heavyweight.

But if I'm Bivol, I would rather not to go down to 168 lbs and make Canelo very comfortable. He is the champion in 175 lbs and that should be the weight that he should fight and again, not allow Canelo and his team to control all the negotiations as he had beaten him already.

Let Canelo go up at 175 lbs, he is chasing greatness here, so be that should be the weight that they should fight.

For sure if he beat Bivol at 168 lbs, there will be question mark for him because critics will same that he drained Bivol at super middle weight.
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November 09, 2022, 12:52:46 PM
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Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

Yeah, he can fight Canelo even in the Super Middleweight division as he has no problem dealing with the scales as what he said on the post-fight interview which i think is a win-win for both Canelo and Bivol because if Bivol wins then he becomes the undisputed super-middleweight champion while Canelo won't have to add muscles for this fight like what he did when they met at light heavyweight.

But if I'm Bivol, I would rather not to go down to 168 lbs and make Canelo very comfortable. He is the champion in 175 lbs and that should be the weight that he should fight and again, not allow Canelo and his team to control all the negotiations as he had beaten him already.

Let Canelo go up at 175 lbs, he is chasing greatness here, so be that should be the weight that they should fight.

For sure if he beat Bivol at 168 lbs, there will be question mark for him because critics will same that he drained Bivol at super middle weight.


Yes you are right that mate because when bivol go down his weight then canelo has a big chance of winning because in curenet weight of bivol he is the champ which means he can handle or control his opponent in his weight range.  And if canelo will go up then the match still a good match as we all know the capability and statistics of cenelo he can fight fair against bivol in the higher weight. But if bivol will go down then easy win for canelo.
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November 09, 2022, 12:57:44 PM
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Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

Yeah, he can fight Canelo even in the Super Middleweight division as he has no problem dealing with the scales as what he said on the post-fight interview which i think is a win-win for both Canelo and Bivol because if Bivol wins then he becomes the undisputed super-middleweight champion while Canelo won't have to add muscles for this fight like what he did when they met at light heavyweight.

But if I'm Bivol, I would rather not to go down to 168 lbs and make Canelo very comfortable. He is the champion in 175 lbs and that should be the weight that he should fight and again, not allow Canelo and his team to control all the negotiations as he had beaten him already.

Let Canelo go up at 175 lbs, he is chasing greatness here, so be that should be the weight that they should fight.

For sure if he beat Bivol at 168 lbs, there will be question mark for him because critics will same that he drained Bivol at super middle weight.


Yes you are right that mate because when bivol go down his weight then canelo has a big chance of winning because in curenet weight of bivol he is the champ which means he can handle or control his opponent in his weight range.  And if canelo will go up then the match still a good match as we all know the capability and statistics of cenelo he can fight fair against bivol in the higher weight. But if bivol will go down then easy win for canelo.

Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

I'm looking at his boxrec right now, at his first fight and it's already at the Light Heavyweight division already.

https://boxrec.com/en/event/702952/1935417

So how can he make 168 lbs when he started at 175 lbs in 2014? Doesn't make sense for him to go to 168 lbs just to give Canelo his fight. Or the contrary, I'm thinking, if he can win at Canelo's weight then maybe he will say that his win is not a fluke. But still though, I agree that the fight should be at the limit of 175 lbs.

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November 09, 2022, 01:36:57 PM
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Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

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November 09, 2022, 03:24:24 PM
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After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.

Well, what I have thought is that Bivol has nothing to do with Canelo, for now I think he does not want revenge, what he is looking for is to enter the biggest, be recognized and have a lot of fame, that is why he cannot to be from revenge to revenge, he is only looking for the fights that can raise his level, for me what he wants is not to earn a little money but a lot, and this is achieved with great fame, he is also Russian and since all the restrictions that there are currently for this type of athlete due to the situation in the world, I think he wants to position himself very well.

It is very easy for him to have a rematch, and he does not show much, because he has already defeated Canelo, perhaps it is expected that more fights will happen for both him and Canelo, Canelo has to do things better and that is something that he must demonstrate, while tatoél continues in his thinking.

First off, why do Bivol need any revenge? He is still undefeated and so he doesn't have any beef with anyone to make a revenge. Canelo is the one who is looking for a revenge because Bivol did defeat him last May but I wouldn't call it as a revenge fight because is not that conflicted nor stripped any of his title as he was just a guest in Bivol's category. It's going to be a money game that is why I know this rematch will happen soon.

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November 09, 2022, 03:32:27 PM
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After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.


As long as Bivol will take a higher cut the fight between Canelo will still be a good money fight for him, after we witness how he dominated the fight against Ramirez, it gives him entire credit for defending his title, Now, the chance of Canelo to challenge and have a rematch will be an interesting one to watch out, maybe there are negotiation that needed to settle between these two fighters, but for the fans once Canelo calls for this fight it will surely gain interest from the fans.

That is pretty much the case because Bivol now has earned his right to demand and get the biggest slice of the cake, Canelo probably knows that as well but he just have to get through this situation because he's not on the A-side anymore and it's safe to say that he needs Bivol to make this big fight happen for the benefit of the both camps.
Also, I think this time, if there will be a rematch, Bivol will demand to take the fight at Abu Dhabi or somewhere in the Middle East. We already know why.

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I don't think Bivol can decline the fight if Canelo activates it because he signed the contract containing that a rematch will happen if the losing side chooses to, but the situation now is different and if you saw the post-fight press conference, it was said that Canelo can't throw a punch currently because of the injury he sustained for about 2 months. So, we might see a unification first before Canelo-Bivol fight.

Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

The fight between Zurdo, his opponent only won 2 rounds, I think that was only rounds 2 and 3, the rest was dominated by Bivol.

A good fight for sure but not an interesting one anymore for the most avid boxing fans out there, including me. If you'd ask me why then my answer is quite simple, I have respect for Canelo and for what he achieved but I don't see that he can make a difference in their rematch, that is why it's not that interesting anymore.

But for Bivol, he is different because he is not into money fights and the only things, he cared the most is to carve his name in the industry and make his own legacy. That's for sure! A rematch is not on Bivol's list for now and it looks like it won't happen anytime soon because of Canelo's injury.

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November 11, 2022, 03:53:15 PM
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I don't think Bivol can decline the fight if Canelo activates it because he signed the contract containing that a rematch will happen if the losing side chooses to, but the situation now is different and if you saw the post-fight press conference, it was said that Canelo can't throw a punch currently because of the injury he sustained for about 2 months. So, we might see a unification first before Canelo-Bivol fight.

Well, Bivol vs Canelo should be a good fight, no need for Bivol to fight another champion in his division yet if he can make a lot of money fighting Canelo. His style in the ring is very entertaining, just like Canelo he starts slow but ends the fight well.

The fight between Zurdo, his opponent only won 2 rounds, I think that was only rounds 2 and 3, the rest was dominated by Bivol.

A good fight for sure but not an interesting one anymore for the most avid boxing fans out there, including me. If you'd ask me why then my answer is quite simple, I have respect for Canelo and for what he achieved but I don't see that he can make a difference in their rematch, that is why it's not that interesting anymore.

But for Bivol, he is different because he is not into money fights and the only things, he cared the most is to carve his name in the industry and make his own legacy. That's for sure! A rematch is not on Bivol's list for now and it looks like it won't happen anytime soon because of Canelo's injury.

I think so too! I mean, Canelo Alvarez himself seriously knew that he can't just keep up with Bivol in his own division and their difference is plain enough to know that Canelo is indeed at the disadvantageous side. That is why if Canelo will call for a rematch, it wouldn't be a redemption fight as I know that Canelo already know his chances, but it will be a big money fight. While for Bivol, he has to wait for a bit because there's a long queue ahead of him before he can have that unification fight.
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November 12, 2022, 08:40:43 AM
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Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

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November 12, 2022, 05:46:06 PM
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After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.


As long as Bivol will take a higher cut the fight between Canelo will still be a good money fight for him, after we witness how he dominated the fight against Ramirez, it gives him entire credit for defending his title, Now, the chance of Canelo to challenge and have a rematch will be an interesting one to watch out, maybe there are negotiation that needed to settle between these two fighters, but for the fans once Canelo calls for this fight it will surely gain interest from the fans.

That is pretty much the case because Bivol now has earned his right to demand and get the biggest slice of the cake, Canelo probably knows that as well but he just have to get through this situation because he's not on the A-side anymore and it's safe to say that he needs Bivol to make this big fight happen for the benefit of the both camps.
Also, I think this time, if there will be a rematch, Bivol will demand to take the fight at Abu Dhabi or somewhere in the Middle East. We already know why.

Yeah, I was expecting that after what happened with the last fight reward, Bivol and his camp will demand that venue to make sure that he will be compensated the right way. There's still no update with the rematch maybe negotiations are taking place or it will start next year for much better preparation.

Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

With how Bivol dominates from his previous fight though he's not  really into KO type of outcome but the counter and his speed, Bivol still have the upper hand.

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November 12, 2022, 10:22:41 PM
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After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.

Well, what I have thought is that Bivol has nothing to do with Canelo, for now I think he does not want revenge, what he is looking for is to enter the biggest, be recognized and have a lot of fame, that is why he cannot to be from revenge to revenge, he is only looking for the fights that can raise his level, for me what he wants is not to earn a little money but a lot, and this is achieved with great fame, he is also Russian and since all the restrictions that there are currently for this type of athlete due to the situation in the world, I think he wants to position himself very well.

It is very easy for him to have a rematch, and he does not show much, because he has already defeated Canelo, perhaps it is expected that more fights will happen for both him and Canelo, Canelo has to do things better and that is something that he must demonstrate, while tatoél continues in his thinking.

First off, why do Bivol need any revenge? He is still undefeated and so he doesn't have any beef with anyone to make a revenge. Canelo is the one who is looking for a revenge because Bivol did defeat him last May but I wouldn't call it as a revenge fight because is not that conflicted nor stripped any of his title as he was just a guest in Bivol's category. It's going to be a money game that is why I know this rematch will happen soon.

Yes, Bivol doesn't need any revenge, he won the fight very clear and still undefeated. It's more on the side of Canelo, because he had a incredible run leading up to the Bivol lost and that's why he is very eager to avenge his defeat.

But shall see, with Bivol winning against Ramirez, he solidify his numbers already.

Although I'm looking at what could be the PPV numbers in his fight against Ramirez in the Middle East. A good gauge on how much money, besides the guarantee price will Bivol pocket in his fight against Ramirez.

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November 12, 2022, 10:41:22 PM
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Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

And when he does that, he will be the unified champion at 168 which is Bivol's dream. A fight with Beterbiev for the unification of belt at 175 would cement his place in history as the two-division unified champion which I think non has accomplished yet.

If the above scenario happens, Bivol should thank Canelo for opening the door to history, i mean Bivol's first victory against Canelo was the one that make him more famous in the boxing world just like Pacquiao's first victory against Barrera.

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November 13, 2022, 02:13:08 AM
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Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.

If he really wanted in his career to be 168 lbs, then he should have first tested this weight. However, it is not the case, he started at Light Heavyweight and that is the weight that he chooses. This is just me, Bivol should carry it and fight at his career best weight not on Canelo.

But let's see how this fight will go, there are a lot of factors to be considered, I believed.

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November 13, 2022, 02:44:57 AM
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After this result, it's high likely next fight we will see Bivol fight with Canelo first and then Bivol might taking challenge to fight with Beterbiev.

That's the same situation I'm thinking, Canelo is likely to have that rematch happen after Bivol got his victory over Ramirez, it will be a money fight for sure that is why it's so likely that it will happen and Canelo has nothing to lose anymore because Bivol already defeated him, but I'm inclined that the outcome would be pretty much the same. Bivol is really too much for Canelo, there's no denying about that.

Well, what I have thought is that Bivol has nothing to do with Canelo, for now I think he does not want revenge, what he is looking for is to enter the biggest, be recognized and have a lot of fame, that is why he cannot to be from revenge to revenge, he is only looking for the fights that can raise his level, for me what he wants is not to earn a little money but a lot, and this is achieved with great fame, he is also Russian and since all the restrictions that there are currently for this type of athlete due to the situation in the world, I think he wants to position himself very well.

It is very easy for him to have a rematch, and he does not show much, because he has already defeated Canelo, perhaps it is expected that more fights will happen for both him and Canelo, Canelo has to do things better and that is something that he must demonstrate, while tatoél continues in his thinking.

First off, why do Bivol need any revenge? He is still undefeated and so he doesn't have any beef with anyone to make a revenge. Canelo is the one who is looking for a revenge because Bivol did defeat him last May but I wouldn't call it as a revenge fight because is not that conflicted nor stripped any of his title as he was just a guest in Bivol's category. It's going to be a money game that is why I know this rematch will happen soon.

Yes, Bivol doesn't need any revenge, he won the fight very clear and still undefeated. It's more on the side of Canelo, because he had a incredible run leading up to the Bivol lost and that's why he is very eager to avenge his defeat.

But shall see, with Bivol winning against Ramirez, he solidify his numbers already.

Although I'm looking at what could be the PPV numbers in his fight against Ramirez in the Middle East. A good gauge on how much money, besides the guarantee price will Bivol pocket in his fight against Ramirez.

No, it's not that he's looking for revenge, what happens is that right now Bivol has another vision of many things, he already retained his title, I don't think Bivol wants to go back to fight Canelo, the truth is I don't see him there, However, I don't know if there is a clause that forces him to fight against him, it is something that occurs to me, I don't know if it is necessary, Bivol is looking for better, isn't it moving up in category? So he earns much more money than he can earn against Canelo. In my personal opinion, I think that when a boxer moves up in category, he becomes much more interesting for everyone, both for sponsors and for the boxers themselves.

Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.

If he really wanted in his career to be 168 lbs, then he should have first tested this weight. However, it is not the case, he started at Light Heavyweight and that is the weight that he chooses. This is just me, Bivol should carry it and fight at his career best weight not on Canelo.

But let's see how this fight will go, there are a lot of factors to be considered, I believed.

It's just that I think that Bivol doesn't want to fight Canelo, that's something very obvious and I think it's because of what I've said before, he wants to seek fame and wants to earn more money, it's something that anyone would do.

I think many people want the fight against Canelo, but I don't see it as necessary, here the one who has to look for the fight with Bivol having many victories is Canelo himself, I don't see Bivol but moving up in category to begin to measure himself with the greatest, That's how I see the Russian, of course all this has an or uqé, and that why can be translated into having more interesting fights to win much more money.


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November 13, 2022, 03:22:21 AM
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Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.
This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal. Smiley

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November 13, 2022, 09:24:48 AM
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Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.
This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal. Smiley

It's a make or break for Bivol, if he is going for greatness,

a, beat Canelo as his best weight, 168 lbs and took his belt
b, Bivol inserting himself into the picture, p4p list
c, Canelo will be in lose-lose situation, if he win and beat Bivol, his critics will say that he weight-drain Bivol to super middleweight.

So it's up to Bivol at this point, 168 lbs or 175 lbs, he will surely looking for greatness in his career.

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November 13, 2022, 11:28:31 AM
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Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.
This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal. Smiley

It's a make or break for Bivol, if he is going for greatness,

a, beat Canelo as his best weight, 168 lbs and took his belt
b, Bivol inserting himself into the picture, p4p list
c, Canelo will be in lose-lose situation, if he win and beat Bivol, his critics will say that he weight-drain Bivol to super middleweight.

So it's up to Bivol at this point, 168 lbs or 175 lbs, he will surely looking for greatness in his career.

Well, hopefully it's gonna happen because Canelo is a celebrity and if Bivol will beat him again, that will make him popular as well. There should be a rematch, but I'm pretty sure Bivol will still dominate, it seems like Canelo had already had a Kryptonite and that is Bivol.

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November 13, 2022, 03:43:57 PM
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Did Bivol really said that he can make 168 lbs?

Below is an article by boxingscene which talked on Bivol moving down in weight but i personally watched his interview after the fight talking that he doesn't have any problem making the 175 lbs in fact before making the scales he ate a little which most boxers don't have the luxury. His sight is on the undisputed belt but a fight with Beterbiev is a slim possibility for now but he can be undisputed if he can beat Canelo at 168 lbs.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bivol-on-possible-canelo-rematch-168-four-belts-its-interesting-175-my-weight--170307

I heard many times even before his fight with Canelo that he is not having problems making the weight. Maybe because Bivol is a small light heavyweight. Although I also read news saying Bivol has no problems making the 168 limits, we already knew he can, it is obvious because there are many 168 fighters that are taller than him. Bivol's frame is not big either unlike Artur Beterbiev who's short but his frame is so huge.

Without a Beterbiev fight, Bivol's biggest fight when it comes to legacy is Canelo at 168. I think he will beat Canelo at 168.

Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.

If he really wanted in his career to be 168 lbs, then he should have first tested this weight. However, it is not the case, he started at Light Heavyweight and that is the weight that he chooses. This is just me, Bivol should carry it and fight at his career best weight not on Canelo.

But let's see how this fight will go, there are a lot of factors to be considered, I believed.

Adding to your statement is he also the current champ in his current division and he already beat Canelo so the demand should be on his side though if he is open to go and face Canelo on his own weight then the decision is on him, what best for now is to know if both camps will negotiate and if they will bring the rematch to happen.

Fans will love to see how the fight will end and who will be the winner, if there's a trilogy or Canelo will be beaten twice.

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