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In general, there are two ways to acquire bitcoins: buying them with real money or "mining" them. The process of mining is the process of acquiring bitcoin, and therefore mining is mining for coins.
So let's start with buying coins. Many people think that buying currency is like buying stocks. The threshold is low and anyone can buy it directly. In addition, they believe that the cost of buying coins is low, so they only need to pay the money to buy coins. But buying currency such as investing in stocks, the income is also big risk, you buy currency in the hand, the price of the currency rises you earn, the price of the currency falls you compensate. And the early need to do a lot of homework, which is similar to buying stocks, which requires you to understand the background of the investors all kinds of information, need to in-depth understanding of all kinds of basic information, according to their own cognition to make choices.
In fact, you can invest Bitcoin quantitatively every day. You only need to invest once to obtain long-term returns. As long as your machine is up and running, it generates a certain amount of bitcoins every day, and the benefits are endless. Acquiring bitcoins this way does not require you to watch the price every day, wait for the price to rise later, and directly trade in cash. Relatively speaking, cloud mining is the lowest cost.
Although the return of buying currency is high, the risk and return coexist, so investors also need to bear the risk of the currency price falling. And mining money is drought and flood guarantee. As an investor, we should take a long-term view of mining machine production.
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August 26, 2022, 12:36:37 AM |
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Of course, everyone's opinion is different, some want bitcoin from mining, some want bitcoin by buying. and both also have risks, but I myself prefer to buy to get bitcoin.
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Relatively speaking, cloud mining is the lowest cost.
Lowest cost is definitely a huge positive but if you don't actually make money in the end anyway, what's the point? Cloud mining services are either a scam, or very unprofitable for the service subscriber.
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If what you are referring to mining here is cloud mining, which is how I understood it, never mind. Although I have heard of the likes of ViaBTC and NiceHash and Genesis and others and a handful are vouching them, the bottom line has always been that cloud mining is either (1) outright scam or Ponzi or (2) that it is not a good investment or (3) the terms and conditions of these cloud mining companies are obviously unfair which means everything is only advantageous to them and highly disadvantageous to their clients.
So if you want to get into Bitcoin mining by way of cloud mining, you'd better buy Bitcoin and HODL.
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For now, mining bitcoin, even using hardware or cloud mining, is not recommended because the difficulty level of bitcoin is now very high and the latest hardware is needed to get a lot of rewards. That's why it's better to buy bitcoin than mine because by buying bitcoin, we can immediately get bitcoin with varying prices. Besides that, we don't need to spend much money and just wait for the price to increase again. While waiting, we can also buy more bitcoins, especially if the price drops again.
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August 26, 2022, 03:56:43 AM |
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Mining Bitcoin is the best if you have the capital and low cost electricity because you can earn more profit in $ compared on directly buying it using the money due to it’s long term return assuming that miner will not gonna broke early but if you have low capital and electricity cost is too high like in my country which is insane, Buying bitcoin is the best for all citizen here because buying mining rig and mining Bitcoin will put as in huge debt due to the expensive electric bill. Cloud mining is the shittiest idea of investment to begin with because it’s return is very low and most of them is scam. There profit rate is almost same when you hold your fiat in the bank for interest. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 26, 2022, 04:18:29 AM |
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In general, there are two ways to acquire bitcoins: buying them with real money or "mining" them.
There are other ways too. Main way to acquire bitcoin is the same way as you acquire any other currency by working for it and getting paid in bitcoin! For example if you own a shop you can sell your goods/services for bitcoin. As long as your machine is up and running, it generates a certain amount of bitcoins every day, and the benefits are endless. Acquiring bitcoins this way does not require you to watch the price every day, wait for the price to rise later, and directly trade in cash.
Mining has costs, you need to pay for the electricity and keep an eye on cooling the equipment. So you do need to worry about the price. It also means it heavily depends on the electricity price you are paying, if it is low then you can compete otherwise if your electricity costs a lot (like these days in EU) it is not possible to make a profit by mining and you're better off buying bitcoin. Relatively speaking, cloud mining is the lowest cost.
Actually the cost of cloud mining is extremely high since the majority of them are scams or Ponzi schemes and will take your money and run.
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August 26, 2022, 04:46:32 AM |
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Mining bitcoin cloud gives us its own convenience, we get many advantages if we use cloud mining, one of the advantages we get is that we don't have to deal with excessive heat, we can also enjoy a quiet atmosphere because there is no fan that keeps buzzing around. to our ears, mining bitcoin is still a very good way to earn passive income for many people, if we buy bitcoin we will definitely need FIAT currency, and we also have to wait for the right time to buy bitcoin, so that we can make a profit in the future.
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August 26, 2022, 05:08:28 AM |
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Of course, everyone's opinion is different, some want bitcoin from mining, some want bitcoin by buying. and both also have risks, but I myself prefer to buy to get bitcoin.
well we can also earn by working here in forum or outside, as you have been wearing signature also and there are chance that your payment will be converted into bitcoin in the next days. we all do this from Bounty payments to break and take bitcoin instead. but also? i commonly buy bitcoin from my extra income and from my gambling wins . also some of my friend pays me using bitcoin in my product selling Online .
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I cannot believe people are still investing money into "Cloud mining" services, because most of them are just Ponzi Schemes. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) A lot of people have burnt their fingers with these "Cloud mining" services, but they still invest in that nonsense. If you want to work your way up to owning a bitcoin, you should rather buy small amounts on a regular basis, when the price is low. When the price increase.... sell for a profit and wait for the price to drop again.. then use that profit and buy more bitcoin. (before you know it, you will own a full bitcoin) ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Investing in ASICS (Hardware) to mine Bitcoin is not profitable for the small miners and the additional cost to run the miners make it even less profitable. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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August 26, 2022, 05:56:01 AM |
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In general, there are two ways to acquire bitcoins: buying them with real money or "mining" them. The process of mining is the process of acquiring bitcoin, and therefore mining is mining for coins.
There are two ways to acquire bitcoin: either by "economic means" or "political means." Economic means include but are not limited to purchasing, earning, mining, donations, and other activities that involve mutually agreed, voluntary exchanges completely free of any coercion and aggression. Both purchasing and mining involve putting some effort in order to obtain desired currency in a peaceful manner. Both these activities can facilitate non-KYC acquisitions of bitcoin and therefore are of the same importance for people valuing their privacy. Political means, on the other hand, always involve aggression against other people and include but are not limited to confiscation, stealing, taxes, seizure, inflation, and any other activities that imply involuntary deprivation of funds and enrichment at the expense of others. If there is anything an honest bitcoiner must be squarely and totally against, it is the acquisition of bitcoin using aggressive political means that, more often than not, are being employed by the most powerful entities, which are governments. In other words, as long as the method you are obtaining bitcoin doesn't infringe on the private property rights of other people, you are doing it right. Both mining and buying are fine.
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August 26, 2022, 06:48:12 AM |
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I agree with the previous replies that for the average citizen the best thing to do is to buy bitcoin, full stop. Cloud mining is best forgotten, and for mining at home, being a private individual, unless you get the mining equipment for free and you have very cheap electricity, it won't be worth it either.
It's been a long time since you could mine bitcoin from home with a laptop.
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August 26, 2022, 07:56:05 AM |
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Buying and mining bitcoin is all about base on the capital which the person has to start the investment. You know mining bitcoin needs more capital to start because you have to buy the machine and after buying machine you still need energy to power the machine before mining, buying bitcoin is much more easier to the bitcoiner. One can use any amount of money to buy bitcoin and stored it in the wallet to grow.
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August 26, 2022, 08:27:02 AM |
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Cloud mining is just an another way to trick newbies to make them sent their money to scammer, it's not actually mine and will work like their promise. Usually they will offer many plan with the different cost to bought a miner and how much the profit you got every month, they usually pay on time for 2-3 months, after that they will disappear.
The real mining is you bought the mining rigs e.g. ASIC miners by yourself and start mine from that, aside that you're not mine Bitcoin.
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If you have a budget to buy a lot of video card and other things needed to mine I guess it is good to mine because there's a chance you can earn more but of course it depends on the market price of the bitcoin and at the same time is the number of Bitcoin you can mine, but if you don't have you can buy a bitcoin into the different exchange and hold your assets and make a strategy of buying assets every dip.
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August 26, 2022, 11:04:36 AM |
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In general, there are two ways to acquire bitcoins: buying them with real money or "mining" them.
If you are not whales, buying Bitcoin directly and hodl it, wait for profit is better than mining it. Because if you want to mine it with ASICs, you must buy those devices, find electricity sources should be cheap, locations for your farms, etc. There will be more things for operations, maintenance, etc. It requires big initial capital, time to operate and you must wait months to get your initial capital back. That is not good for small miners. When you need money instantly, you can not sell your ASICs and other devices instantly to get money. If you buy and have Bitcoin, you can sell it instantly. Buying and holding Bitcoin give you more flexibility.
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August 26, 2022, 11:35:11 AM |
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I agree with the previous replies that for the average citizen the best thing to do is to buy bitcoin, full stop. Cloud mining is best forgotten, and for mining at home, being a private individual, unless you get the mining equipment for free and you have very cheap electricity, it won't be worth it either.
It's been a long time since you could mine bitcoin from home with a laptop.
In essence, you have to have big capital for mining at home and this requires big money to buy more VGA equipment so that the results are bigger and electricity is usually what needs to be considered, many people don't accept this mining because the costs and maintenance are very complicated in my opinion . I've been stuck in cloud mining before to make investments but in reality it's a scam and often cloud mining is a scam on average, so we need to leave it and it's better to invest to buy because we are the ones holding it ourselves, not cloud mining.
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If you aren't mining beyond that one Bitcoin or you don't want to maintain the devices, buying Bitcoin at the current prices might actually be the most profitable in the long term. Since, there will come a time where that mining device has either deteriorated beyond repair or simply doesn't cut it much longer. Depending on your electrical costs, and your personal circumstances, you might not be using the mining equipment to its full potential. Whereas, buying Bitcoin you know exactly what you're going to get at the moment of purchase, while mining you generally have a good idea, there's a few other things that could potentially go wrong during the equipments life span.
As for cloud mining, I'd stay away personally. Whenever you involve a third party, there's room for getting screwed, which is something that Bitcoin was designed to mitigate.
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mining or buying can actually be maximized because it is not an option in my opinion. anyone can follow what they can either risk, cost and level of ability to get bitcoin or other crypto currencies. like it or not, trading is the estuary of fiat exchanges and on the contrary .
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My take on answering this question is that I think today, just like a decade ago, most miners are some kind of 'nerds' of Bitcoin mining it for the sake of sustaining the Bitcoin network. There of course are the largest miners that are few but very wealthy in equipment, and there are of course those who purchase many miners hoping to make a profit but giving up in the end.
With how volatile things are today, I think mining is not worth it much anymore unless you have a very large budget. You have so many things to take into account. Mining rigs are limited. GPU's (Bitcoin is not GPU mineable by default but I am putting this here just for the sake of the argument) have volatile stock and prices. Electricity costs are also volatile, but mostly increasing. There are some countries pulling out the crackdown card on mining. You need maintenance for your rigs. You have to know what you are doing and, last but not least, you have to pay electricity which is pretty much like exchanging electricity for Bitcoin and your equipment will need upgrade every now and then.
So due to the last paragraph, I rather buy Bitcoin and DCA than start mining. I much rather prefer the way without headaches. If I had the time and budget, maybe I would consider running a Bitcoin mining farm.
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