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August 31, 2022, 02:28:15 PM
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True, a high education and academy does not guarantee success, I am currently around 30 years old, and I have 2 very different school friends, the first friend did not graduate from high school, the second friend graduated from college abroad, the friend who did not graduate currently has business with about 40 employees, while overseas graduates work in offices earning about $500 per month.
It means that your two friends are actually both successful in their respective fields even though the categories are different, but both of them should be grateful because they still have the opportunity to work and make money according to the struggles they have gone through. The point is that everyone needs better and more mature education so that they can do business and can also work where they want because there is no way to develop themselves without going through the necessary education.

But how often do we see people with limited education became successful? Majority of these people that never finished high school will have difficulty finding a job. And if someone cannot find a job, it is also difficult to have savings. No savings will also result to zero capital in starting a business. Life is never fair and we will be needing every possible skills, knowledge and luck in order to become successful in life. And someone armed with proper education is an advantage over someone with that haven't finished high school.   

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August 31, 2022, 02:41:43 PM
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Knowledge is very important for success. but knowledge does not have to be obtained from formal education such as in school. indeed there are many cases such as a graduate who is unemployed or becomes an ordinary employee. and conversely there are people who are successful as bosses even though they don't go to school. actually these two people from different backgrounds are all educated. but the way they get their education is different. one in a formal way. and one in an informal way.

why is the informal one sometimes superior? That's because people who get non-formal education are those who get knowledge from the life experiences they live. they practice science directly in life. they are not good at theory. but they are good at action or practice in the field. that is the reason sometimes people with non-formal education are superior.

people who are formally educated but can not achieve success is because they are too focused on theory and they do not know about the reality on the ground. sometimes the realities of life are more difficult than the theory in books.
 In order to achieve success, formal education as well as family education is necessary. Along with that, the situation of the society has to be considered. General knowledge is sometimes more useful than formal education. To achieve success, one must be focused. Keeping these things in mind is what I consider to be successful.Sometimes you have to deal with reality to be successful. But it will take a lot of practice.
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August 31, 2022, 07:44:05 PM
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True. a few days ago I read an article that many of the world's big companies such as Google do not make education the main requirement for hiring employees, but they prioritize experience and skills. Unfortunately this does not apply to all companies because most companies in my country still make education the main requirement for hiring employees. 
I don't think so. Maybe you only misread it and it wasn't really google because man, that was a big company so they probably set their standards high when it comes to choosing an employee. And if let say they allow it then the competition is going to be tougher because the ratio of uneducated people are much higher than those who are educated.

It can also cause a bad thing if companies work like that because people won't be motivated anymore to go to school or finish their studies because in their heads, they can still be able to work on a big company so why will they waste time going to school every day for the next 4 or more years?

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August 31, 2022, 08:14:05 PM
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True. a few days ago I read an article that many of the world's big companies such as Google do not make education the main requirement for hiring employees, but they prioritize experience and skills. Unfortunately this does not apply to all companies because most companies in my country still make education the main requirement for hiring employees. 
I don't think so. Maybe you only misread it and it wasn't really google because man, that was a big company so they probably set their standards high when it comes to choosing an employee. And if let say they allow it then the competition is going to be tougher because the ratio of uneducated people are much higher than those who are educated.

It can also cause a bad thing if companies work like that because people won't be motivated anymore to go to school or finish their studies because in their heads, they can still be able to work on a big company so why will they waste time going to school every day for the next 4 or more years?
As for Google which is a very big company then i dont really believe that they are really hiring up people even though they dont have any degree? Sounds impossible because education is your main foundation and thinking on hiring up someone who do lack off with these things will really be having a hard time on proceeding into other things because having educational background is really necessary.
I cant really deny that skills should be there but speaking about foundation or something in related to this will really be that much needed too.You cant really be just having the mindset
that you should stop on schooling or getting a degree just because you do know that there's someone who could hire people without having educational attainment.

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August 31, 2022, 08:30:39 PM
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But how often do we see people with limited education became successful? Majority of these people that never finished high school will have difficulty finding a job. And if someone cannot find a job, it is also difficult to have savings. No savings will also result to zero capital in starting a business. Life is never fair and we will be needing every possible skills, knowledge and luck in order to become successful in life. And someone armed with proper education is an advantage over someone with that haven't finished high school.   
I don't think so. Many educated people are successful but indeed they are not as famous as people who are successful without going through a period of education.
The reason is quite simple, because indeed when people do not take education or come from ordinary families, sometimes they are exposed to more because it is considered that their success is extraordinary compared to people who take education because they think it is a very natural thing because indeed they have an education that is very important. conditions in this stigma to be successful.

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August 31, 2022, 09:33:26 PM
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Both formal and informal education are important. The argument whether it is a marker for success in my opinion is subjective. Here are my two reasons. In my culture(many many years ago. It still happens today though not as frequent), there is a system of informal education where a young man from the age of 10 and above is required to go learn a trade. He will understudy/ be an apprentice in a successful person's business for 10 - 15years. He will learn everything there is to know about the business from his mentor. At the end of this time, his mentor will "release" him. He will be given a new shop, goods and lots of money to start his own business. These people usually go on to become really successful and stinkingly rich business men.

In the formal education, the individual goes through primary, secondary and university system of education. And at the end of the same 10 -15 years he or she will graduate with a degree. Some will choose to use their knowledge in setting up industries or businesses and still go on to become successful. Success here is highly subjective.  I am for both as long as you achieve your life's goals and you end up happy. I have seen both sets of people.

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September 01, 2022, 06:41:01 AM
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But how often do we see people with limited education became successful? Majority of these people that never finished high school will have difficulty finding a job. And if someone cannot find a job, it is also difficult to have savings. No savings will also result to zero capital in starting a business. Life is never fair and we will be needing every possible skills, knowledge and luck in order to become successful in life. And someone armed with proper education is an advantage over someone with that haven't finished high school.   
I don't think so. Many educated people are successful but indeed they are not as famous as people who are successful without going through a period of education.
The reason is quite simple, because indeed when people do not take education or come from ordinary families, sometimes they are exposed to more because it is considered that their success is extraordinary compared to people who take education because they think it is a very natural thing because indeed they have an education that is very important. conditions in this stigma to be successful.

I only emphasized that having armed with proper or let us say formal education is always an advantage over people that didn't even managed to finish high school.

People with less or very little education became famous when they became successful because it is rare and not common. And if we really start talking about the most famous successful people then we will be talking about the richest people and top companies of today. And it is not hard for us to know that they are educated. Drop outs like Bill Gates, Facebook's Zuckerberg among others are also considered educated. Very educated upon knowing how high the standards of their universities.

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September 01, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
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What a tricky topic. Education does not guarantee anything. To be successful, you need to be at right place and on right time. Education will only aim you to where look for such opportunity. School education is also a very tricky thing. On one hand it is necessary, on the other hand part of it can be skipped. The goal of school education is to prepare an average citizen with basic knowledge and skill to an adult life. A lot of attention should be stressed on the word average, as school programs are developed in such a way, that every one would understand it. Higher education is also not a magic wand that will change one persons life. Major part of student just visit it to get a diploma, but not knowledge.

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September 01, 2022, 09:45:58 PM
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I don't think so. Many educated people are successful but indeed they are not as famous as people who are successful without going through a period of education.
The reason is quite simple, because indeed when people do not take education or come from ordinary families, sometimes they are exposed to more because it is considered that their success is extraordinary compared to people who take education because they think it is a very natural thing because indeed they have an education that is very important. conditions in this stigma to be successful.

I only emphasized that having armed with proper or let us say formal education is always an advantage over people that didn't even managed to finish high school.

People with less or very little education became famous when they became successful because it is rare and not common. And if we really start talking about the most famous successful people then we will be talking about the richest people and top companies of today. And it is not hard for us to know that they are educated. Drop outs like Bill Gates, Facebook's Zuckerberg among others are also considered educated. Very educated upon knowing how high the standards of their universities.
For a few years ago this might still be possible but for now with people who have very many degrees, it is clear that this cannot be a benchmark anymore because it is getting more and more educated now, which in the end is all the same as having difficulty finding work because There are too many graduates and there are fewer job opportunities.
Even though in this case there are positive things from education, when talking about opportunities now I think it depends on the wishes of everyone, regardless of education graduates or not.

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September 01, 2022, 10:59:24 PM
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I don't think so. Many educated people are successful but indeed they are not as famous as people who are successful without going through a period of education.
The reason is quite simple, because indeed when people do not take education or come from ordinary families, sometimes they are exposed to more because it is considered that their success is extraordinary compared to people who take education because they think it is a very natural thing because indeed they have an education that is very important. conditions in this stigma to be successful.

I only emphasized that having armed with proper or let us say formal education is always an advantage over people that didn't even managed to finish high school.

People with less or very little education became famous when they became successful because it is rare and not common. And if we really start talking about the most famous successful people then we will be talking about the richest people and top companies of today. And it is not hard for us to know that they are educated. Drop outs like Bill Gates, Facebook's Zuckerberg among others are also considered educated. Very educated upon knowing how high the standards of their universities.
For a few years ago this might still be possible but for now with people who have very many degrees, it is clear that this cannot be a benchmark anymore because it is getting more and more educated now, which in the end is all the same as having difficulty finding work because There are too many graduates and there are fewer job opportunities.
Even though in this case there are positive things from education, when talking about opportunities now I think it depends on the wishes of everyone, regardless of education graduates or not.
NO matter how many degree you had finished but still it wont give you guarantees that it would really give you directly some job on the time you do apply.Competition is fierce and this would be the toughest thing
you would really be facing.Education is indeed a solid foundation for a certain person to have but there are ones who had just decided to stop and focused into other path which neither give them success compared
when they had just finished their degree.Its not recommendable since we know that there's no assurance that you would succeed on things that you've been dealing with but its not really that
not worth to try if you do feel that it does work on that way.

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September 02, 2022, 12:05:29 AM
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Knowledge is very important for success. but knowledge does not have to be obtained from formal education such as in school. indeed there are many cases such as a graduate who is unemployed or becomes an ordinary employee. and conversely there are people who are successful as bosses even though they don't go to school. actually these two people from different backgrounds are all educated. but the way they get their education is different. one in a formal way. and one in an informal way.

why is the informal one sometimes superior? That's because people who get non-formal education are those who get knowledge from the life experiences they live. they practice science directly in life. they are not good at theory. but they are good at action or practice in the field. that is the reason sometimes people with non-formal education are superior.

people who are formally educated but can not achieve success is because they are too focused on theory and they do not know about the reality on the ground. sometimes the realities of life are more difficult than the theory in books.
 In order to achieve success, formal education as well as family education is necessary. Along with that, the situation of the society has to be considered. General knowledge is sometimes more useful than formal education. To achieve success, one must be focused. Keeping these things in mind is what I consider to be successful.Sometimes you have to deal with reality to be successful. But it will take a lot of practice.
as you said that environmental factors or the surrounding community or it can be said that our social factors are also a consideration. Because sometimes the environment has a big influence in shaping a person's character and character. so that education is indirectly also in the association in the environment. so we have to be good at socializing too. and we must be good at choosing friends in the association. so basically all forms of education are important. both formal and informal. but indeed the best teacher in education who has a big impact on our lives is experience. so there is a saying "experience is the best teacher"
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Education is not the only key to success anymore, then we all be believe that, if we don't go to school, we can't make it, the country is something else, we should find all means to be a successful person in life, education is good, but we have to find all means to make it, country which a graduate is riding bike, someone that spend thousands of naira to go to the school, is now riding bike, imagine,

So is always good to invest in once self, than working under someone, which you won't have time for yourself,

Just an advise
Education is still the key to success in my opinion, because been educated makes you different from your people in your society.
If a bike man his educated is way will be different from uneducated once. At least you graduate and still alive, what about your colleagues that have dead. Let me tell you bike man makes more than a civil servant.

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Education is not the only key to success anymore, then we all be believe that, if we don't go to school, we can't make it, the country is something else, we should find all means to be a successful person in life, education is good, but we have to find all means to make it, country which a graduate is riding bike, someone that spend thousands of naira to go to the school, is now riding bike, imagine,
Graduation in formal education is a must if you want to seek better job since most of the good paying jobs require you to have decent degree and cumlaude in order to enroll to those jobs. But to support your formal education, you also need different source of learning for example from internet or just simply from other people outside of formal school. Education is important especially in these days.

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September 03, 2022, 03:34:14 AM
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Education is not the only key to success anymore, then we all be believe that, if we don't go to school, we can't make it, the country is something else, we should find all means to be a successful person in life, education is good, but we have to find all means to make it, country which a graduate is riding bike, someone that spend thousands of naira to go to the school, is now riding bike, imagine,
Graduation in formal education is a must if you want to seek better job since most of the good paying jobs require you to have decent degree and cumlaude in order to enroll to those jobs. But to support your formal education, you also need different source of learning for example from internet or just simply from other people outside of formal school. Education is important especially in these days.
for me education is very important to change a person's mindset, in the world of education we will have a broader perspective because every day we communicate with people who want to always improve the quality of life. and after that what we are looking for is our potential to be developed. Although nowadays many people are successful not because of formal education, but rest assured they are struggling beyond the limits of ordinary people's abilities

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September 03, 2022, 06:59:18 AM
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It means that your two friends are actually both successful in their respective fields even though the categories are different, but both of them should be grateful because they still have the opportunity to work and make money according to the struggles they have gone through. The point is that everyone needs better and more mature education so that they can do business and can also work where they want because there is no way to develop themselves without going through the necessary education.
Yes, it's true friends, education is the foundation for everyone, education will also foster a sense of empathy, with education we know how much potential we have.
For me both jobs are good, depending on how one uses it, but if they are able to do it together, it is even better and there is no harm. But the most important thing is that education is needed for anyone in this world, whether it's high or not, it depends on each individual

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The typical human mind initially considers the fictitious drawbacks and rejects the possibility of another type of money. However, a growing number of individuals are visiting exchanges like Binance, Primexbt, Kraken, etc. People are afraid because they were taught to be afraid as child. This is, unfortunately, what the educational system does.

I am also a victim. Wish I had joined this forum earlier.


I don't think that it's the educational system fault to be afraid, it is more part of human nature to be afraid of the unknown. As kids we are confronted with the new things all the time, and some seem scarier than others, requiring a lot of effort to conquer the fear within us and to give it a try. We all know this little voice in our head to be cautious when it comes to trying something for the first time. The funny thing is that once we gave it a try the chances are high we are going to enjoy it and it becomes hard to imagine a time when we are afraid. The same goes for crypto currencies, people tend to be afraid without ever really giving them a chance. It's good that you are here now on the forum, don't think too much about what could have happened if you joined the crypto community earlier. There will always be situation like that in life where you wish you could change the past.
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I don't think that it's the educational system fault to be afraid, it is more part of human nature to be afraid of the unknown. As kids we are confronted with the new things all the time, and some seem scarier than others, requiring a lot of effort to conquer the fear within us and to give it a try. We all know this little voice in our head to be cautious when it comes to trying something for the first time. The funny thing is that once we gave it a try the chances are high we are going to enjoy it and it becomes hard to imagine a time when we are afraid. The same goes for crypto currencies, people tend to be afraid without ever really giving them a chance. It's good that you are here now on the forum, don't think too much about what could have happened if you joined the crypto community earlier. There will always be situation like that in life where you wish you could change the past.
That is one of the best explanations of crypto that I have ever seen in my life, that is right that we should not be afraid of it and people who are afraid of it are usually people who haven't tested and went into it. When you got into crypto there is absolutely no way that you could ever leave it, you could try to leave it but almost everyone that leaves eventually comes back.

I personally feel like there is a good chance that we could end up with the best thing that happened to us financially. Not just because we can make money, which we can or maybe we will fail, but also because it is something that gives us the possibility of unlimited chances to get rich and be free from the cycle fiat proposes to us.
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September 03, 2022, 09:56:35 PM
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OP, if something matters in our personal and professional growth, it is education, no matter the quality of the institutions, nor of the teachers, today there is an opportunity to be better because access to information is available like in no other time.

That a university professional drives a bicycle in your country does not mean that educating us has no value, in the United States you get a taxi driver with doctorates, doctors, physicists, etc.  And it is a developed country, but it is not the average because it is a country of opportunities.

On the other hand, for example, in Cuba it is the opposite, it is average and very normal to see doctors or professionals behind the wheel, the reason it? the opportunities are few.

But regardless of whether opportunities are few or many, education should be part of the process of personal growth and hopefully always at least a college degree.

Then, studying and forging a profession based on those studies is a fulfillment, goal, regardless of where you end up exercising your right to a job.

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September 03, 2022, 10:18:52 PM
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It means that your two friends are actually both successful in their respective fields even though the categories are different, but both of them should be grateful because they still have the opportunity to work and make money according to the struggles they have gone through. The point is that everyone needs better and more mature education so that they can do business and can also work where they want because there is no way to develop themselves without going through the necessary education.
Yes, it's true friends, education is the foundation for everyone, education will also foster a sense of empathy, with education we know how much potential we have.
For me both jobs are good, depending on how one uses it, but if they are able to do it together, it is even better and there is no harm. But the most important thing is that education is needed for anyone in this world, whether it's high or not, it depends on each individual
Regarding that I really agree because if only everyone was not educated then we would be nothing,
education can change our lives and that must be realized too,
it takes a process and the results can't be instant

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September 04, 2022, 05:22:24 AM
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It means that your two friends are actually both successful in their respective fields even though the categories are different, but both of them should be grateful because they still have the opportunity to work and make money according to the struggles they have gone through. The point is that everyone needs better and more mature education so that they can do business and can also work where they want because there is no way to develop themselves without going through the necessary education.
Yes, it's true friends, education is the foundation for everyone, education will also foster a sense of empathy, with education we know how much potential we have.
For me both jobs are good, depending on how one uses it, but if they are able to do it together, it is even better and there is no harm. But the most important thing is that education is needed for anyone in this world, whether it's high or not, it depends on each individual
Regarding that I really agree because if only everyone was not educated then we would be nothing,
education can change our lives and that must be realized too,
it takes a process and the results can't be instant
In the stage of educational knowledge is important, as an embodiment to develop people, where with education, people will know technology, innovation, and opportunities to develop.
But not infrequently people who have low education also have the opportunity to be successful in the certificate of fields. But it is very naive, if it ignores education, for reasons many succesful people do not start from here.

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