INTEREST CHECK: Physical collectibles and NFT's by XCP Artists

[sweeteye]

Hey all,

Would love your opinion on this.
I'm spending an increasing amount of time in the counterparty/XCP (bitcoin blockchain) collectible space and while there are channels and web marketplaces for artist's to sell their physical work, I think that this may also be a place given some of our past sales history and our collective community proclivity.

Several of the XCP artists I'm in touch with may be interested in listing their physical work here - an original painting, drawing or rendering of their NFT, or of other artists work that they've been gifted, bought or traded for - all XCP/BTC project based, and in my estimation, all collectible.

As my first love (and collection) is art, I'm compelled to support some of these artists here if there's a market and interest from our community.

Would love opinions and am open to suggestions as well.

Thanks.

sweeteye

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[MoparMiningLLC]

physical items - yes

digital items - no

[JanEmil]

Have them to make a frog deck with Cardsmiths

Else no. So many artist they will flood the forum.

[thiago007]

I personally believe in digital art as long as it has physical art otherwise in the long run it will just be like other crypto fads, and don't get me wrong I think there is still a long way to go with that but like all fads it will eventually go away.🦖

[sweeteye]

physical items - yes

digital items - no

I would think the basis of anything here would be physical, though some item's may have the NFT either built in (in a QR under holo, for instance) or in an OpenDime or the like accompanying the physical item.

Thanks for your POV.

[sweeteye]

Have them to make a frog deck with Cardsmiths

Else no. So many artist they will flood the forum.

Cool idea and totally agree with the latter sentiment [addendum] if the work is only digital

[sweeteye]

I personally believe in digital art as long as it has physical art otherwise in the long run it will just be like other crypto fads, and don't get me wrong I think there is still a long way to go with that but like all fads it will eventually go away.🦖

Definitely a thoughtful take, thanks!

[MoparMiningLLC]

physical items - yes

digital items - no

I would think the basis of anything here would be physical, though some item's may have the NFT either built in (in a QR under holo, for instance) or in an OpenDime or the like accompanying the physical item.

Thanks for your POV.

I am great with NFT's for physical items - I would just prefer to have the physical item - the nft can be deleted or "unhosted" and then poof it is gone.

[Spokanistan51]

Agree on the physical front. Digital NFT collectors will not only flood the forum, but the amount of theft/scams/negative activity will increase also.

[PreciousMetapsICT]

 physical XCP piece?

[nutildah]

I'm all for it. This guy has been making physical NFT cards for a while: https://xcer.co/

I've actually done a few myself, though I can't ship any at the moment:

https://twitter.com/owlpelletz/status/1492600178339102724

Let's face it: this forum is dying. It needs all the attention it can get. Maybe a sub-board for NFTs would be a good compromise.

I am great with NFT's for physical items - I would just prefer to have the physical item - the nft can be deleted or "unhosted" and then poof it is gone.

Same problems can happen with physical items: they can get damaged, lost, or stolen. They are also subject to forgeries and scams.

Like physical items, if the NFTs are made and stored correctly they can last a long time.

[aoluain]

^
I was thinking of the same concerns others had of the collectibles board been inundated
with NFT threads but yea a child board specifically for NTF's is a great idea and could compliment
the collectibles one  and increase traffic.

It just goes to show there are other spaces where people are buying, selling and trading crypto
collectibles, I for one am only aware of a few of them and wasnt aware of XCP ?

[MoparMiningLLC]

I'm all for it. This guy has been making physical NFT cards for a while: https://xcer.co/

I've actually done a few myself, though I can't ship any at the moment:

https://twitter.com/owlpelletz/status/1492600178339102724

Let's face it: this forum is dying. It needs all the attention it can get. Maybe a sub-board for NFTs would be a good compromise.

I am great with NFT's for physical items - I would just prefer to have the physical item - the nft can be deleted or "unhosted" and then poof it is gone.

Same problems can happen with physical items: they can get damaged, lost, or stolen. They are also subject to forgeries and scams.

Like physical items, if the NFTs are made and stored correctly they can last a long time.

Perhaps but i still prefer it to any nft - I will never purchase a nft.

[sweeteye]

 physical XCP piece?

100%
A great example of the physical with the accompanyying NFT,  a collab between Vlad and Rare Scrilla, here: https://xchain.io/asset/FAKEBTCTKVR on the bitcoin blockchain.

If you bought the mag from scarce.city or Vlad you own the NFT of the cover art.
It doesn't have to live anywhere but in your cold storage wallet at a legacy or segwit address.
It can be viewed in a number of wallets without entering your private key.
I personally trust the bitcoin blockchain with my money and now my art and collectibles.
I can't say that any other blockchain I am aware of that NFT art is being produced on offers the same security.
There's 118 pages of paper that could be damaged or stolen, but the NFT lives immutably on the blockchain.

[sweeteye]

Agree on the physical front. Digital NFT collectors will not only flood the forum, but the amount of theft/scams/negative activity will increase also.

Glad to hear that and I hope the consensus here would remain that physical art with digital assets (NFTs) is a good thing.

I disagree with you from my experience with XCP on the bitcoin blockchain.

In fact, more scams have been perpetrated on the forum in the collectibles group during the time I've been involved with groups on XCP. Like here, there's a solid community of people looking out for each other and newbies, warning of fraud or bad actors.

And in terms of the physical collector like myself looking to also have digital assets, or the digital collector learning about physicals, you're right the forum will be flooded with hungry, passionate collectors on the BTC blockchain.

[Todamont]

Also consider minting some 1g or 1 oz silver rounds. Those usually sell out and can also become collectibles. You could leave part of the coin flat for hand embellishment or stamping of serial numbers, that adds extra value also.

[sweeteye]

^
I was thinking of the same concerns others had of the collectibles board been inundated
with NFT threads but yea a child board specifically for NTF's is a great idea and could compliment
the collectibles one  and increase traffic.

It just goes to show there are other spaces where people are buying, selling and trading crypto
collectibles, I for one am only aware of a few of them and wasnt aware of XCP ?

There are a lot of cool collectibles out there and many have made their way here over the years, but we have predominantly been a "coin shop".
I'm glad to see magazines and ephemera when they go on sale -- and they make up a larger part of many collections than coins, piece for piece.
And always look forward to the art - in XCP NFT land there can be sub-assets of any given asset.
I think a collector can look at NFTs as sub-assets of the physical, or even physicals as sub-assets of the NFT, depending.

Check out XCP, it doesn't sound like you'll be dissapointed~

[sweeteye]

I'm all for it. This guy has been making physical NFT cards for a while: https://xcer.co/

I've actually done a few myself, though I can't ship any at the moment:

https://twitter.com/owlpelletz/status/1492600178339102724

Let's face it: this forum is dying. It needs all the attention it can get. Maybe a sub-board for NFTs would be a good compromise.

I am great with NFT's for physical items - I would just prefer to have the physical item - the nft can be deleted or "unhosted" and then poof it is gone.

Same problems can happen with physical items: they can get damaged, lost, or stolen. They are also subject to forgeries and scams.

Like physical items, if the NFTs are made and stored correctly they can last a long time.

Xcer is making dope physical collectibles/NFTs minted on the XCP blockchain.
I'm not sure of the tech, but I'm not crazy about the XXCER.prefix (ie. XXCER.RARECOLLECTIBLE) that gets tagged onto historical assets when redeemed. That and having to use their site to redeem the NFT (I wouldn't anyway, I'd leave it locked on the card) is adding another party to depend upon/trust and we've seen how that worked out with Titan, a once reputable coinmaker.
I have no issue buying their originally created/minted sets, though, and as stated above, I'd leave the NFT locked on the card (I think, as an example, of a fully funded and a peeled coin - you retain the physical, but you've sold off or moved the coresponding value - somebody correct me if this is a bad anology).

Not a shill for them, but they probably have the coolest complete set of 21 baseball cards (or 42 baseball NFT's) you'll ever own: https://xcer.co/product/1649859332876x495965899793615170

And then there's that thing about the forum. I wouldn't say it's dying, but it's definitely changing and maybe going through a bit of a staid period. We've seen an influx of new buyers and enthusiasts from at least one coinmaker's Twitter following, and that's probably good for the forum in the long term, the same way that an influx of new collector's, artists and maker/creators is a good thing.
Y'all all just gotta look out for y'all~

[sweeteye]

I'm all for it. This guy has been making physical NFT cards for a while: https://xcer.co/

I've actually done a few myself, though I can't ship any at the moment:

https://twitter.com/owlpelletz/status/1492600178339102724

Let's face it: this forum is dying. It needs all the attention it can get. Maybe a sub-board for NFTs would be a good compromise.

I am great with NFT's for physical items - I would just prefer to have the physical item - the nft can be deleted or "unhosted" and then poof it is gone.

Same problems can happen with physical items: they can get damaged, lost, or stolen. They are also subject to forgeries and scams.

Like physical items, if the NFTs are made and stored correctly they can last a long time.

Perhaps but i still prefer it to any nft - I will never purchase a nft.

DM me your XCP bitcoin address, Mopar.
I'd like to send you a free NFT.
If you can't accept, I'd bet TCK would be interested.
Offer is good for both

[sweeteye]

Also consider minting some 1g or 1 oz silver rounds. Those usually sell out and can also become collectibles. You could leave part of the coin flat for hand embellishment or stamping of serial numbers, that adds extra value also.

If you're saying with one side blank it can become a 1:1 collectible with the owner making their preferred design on the other side of the coin, if that's so, bring it on.

Hell, sell me a 1/21 DIY kit with five slugs and XCP NFT minting instructions for a series of DIY coins- I'd buy.
Even if I didn't participate, just to collect the first DIY COIN NFT kit.
Anybody else share my sickness lmao???