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August 26, 2022, 01:12:20 PM
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Sparrow and Paul joined this forum a few months after the covid-19.
 
After a year of posting in the forum, Sparrow got ranked up to the senior member, but Paul remained a junior member.

Paul was angry, which lead him to develop a sense of jealousy, but continued posting in the forum anyway.

One day Paul just felt that the best thing to do is to give up, he could not continue with his posting anymore. He's just thinking of giving up on the rules and regulations that are not favouring him. But before he gives up on the forum, he private chats a legendary member, complaining that nobody in the forum values his posting strength, but merits only the favoured members!

The bounty managers that Paul has promoted the campaigns they have handled knew that Paul does make complete tasks given to him; even posts on all the forum boards than Sparrow and therefore he deserved to be ranked up to higher ranks. So to help Paul to realize the mistake he has been doing in the forum, the legendary member of the forum decided to add both Paul and Sparrow to a telegram group. He starts by asking Paul a simple question on telegram.

"What's bitcoin and what's the motive behind its lead creation?”

Paul replied by saying that bitcoin is a digital currency and the reason for bitcoin creation is to store it up as an asset and to trade it.

The legendary member asked him again, "who created bitcoin?" Paul replied by saying is Satoshi.

The legendary member asked Sparrow the same question he asked Paul. The legendary member told Paul to pay good close attention to his response.

Sparrow starts by saying, bitcoin is known as a digital currency, it is invented by Satoshi Nakamoto in the year 2009. After the creation of bitcoin by Satoshi, nobody has seen or knows him. Although there are speculations of people claiming to be him.

At the initial stage of bitcoin, many people don't believe in bitcoin, they thought is a bubble that will soon burst. As time goes on, bitcoin began to amass momentum and spread across the globe, although in some countries bitcoin is illegal. The unique nature of bitcoin is that it can't be controlled by anyone or the government.
There is speculation that it will hit $100k in the halving. Bitcoin halving does happen once in four years. We have the bull season and the bearish season in crypto. Bitcoin is the king of all crypto. Bitcoin is the first coin that comes into people's minds before any other altcoin. The crypto market is volatile and unpredictable.

The reason behind bitcoin's creation is to make everyone financial independent, keep their financial status anonymous, store up their assets, for easy and fast transactions in the comfort of their home, and exchange goods and services:


In the end, Paul was very impressed and realized the difference between himself and Peter. He decided not to give up so quickly but to learn from Sparrow how to post.

As we continue to post in this forum as learners, let this story help us to bear in mind the significance of going an additional mile in all our efforts in the forum.

You won't be merited for not posting and commenting well. Be able to ask or give solutions to topics treated here. You're only rewarded for making your suggestions clear and understandable. Performing beyond expectations. 

To be more successful in this forum, you must be observant, proactive and willing to post more,  think more, have a more good perspective and go beyond just posting.

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"Go beyond a simple post"—in short, be original. OP, I see your post as an abstract, but that's not bad, you let everyone know that you did not learn about Bitcoin yesterday. Sometimes people can be laconic, but very accurate in their answers, and this is more appreciated. Reading a long text while assuming the ending in advance is tiring, and many people value time more than anything else. A short vantage point can be more interesting because it can shoot at a target, and is usually marked with merits.

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August 26, 2022, 02:43:32 PM
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You don't have to write a fiction to teach others.

From your fiction, I think your story is to teach new members that if they want to rank up, they must have contributions. To have contributions, they must have good perspective and intention for contribution.

Why did you not keep your advice shortly like that?  Grin

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August 26, 2022, 03:02:20 PM
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Explaining or defining a concept very long does not mean the person knows that thing very well. Sometime the person is defining a text book definition instead of knowing it by himself. This your fiction story remind me of and India movie called " Three Idiot", Ranco was asked to defined what is a machine and he explained by saying that "Machine is anything that make things easy for human to use". And the teacher said he was wrong and another student gave a very long definition and he said the student was correct. But at the end the term. final exam the boy who gave the shot definition took the 1st class position.









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August 26, 2022, 05:09:44 PM
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There is no criteria made for getting merits like you described in the above story, each and every member can decide which and what kind of post they have to merit and that applies even to merits sources as well so in short anyone who contribute in someway get merits.

And someone doesn't need to be worried if they are not getting merits, if they are not spamming and only posts if its necessary can exist here as well. The ranking is here for the signature space only and every feature will be same for jr. Member and sr.Member.

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August 26, 2022, 05:50:26 PM
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It's quite a story that you have put together OP,
let this story help us to bear in mind the significance of going an additional mile in all our efforts in the forum.
In other words, You should be very expressive, see every topic you want to contribute to as an opportunity to express yourself fully and make your views and perspective known, don't spare us any detail that you think will be of importance or benefit to someone on the forum. This also means that you shouldn't flood the forum with plenty unnecessary discussions/details in your post just because I said you should be expressive, take note of the key phrase I used, ''your details have to be of benefit or importance to someone''.

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August 26, 2022, 07:07:07 PM
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"Go beyond a simple post"—in short, be original. OP, I see your post as an abstract, but that's not bad, you let everyone know that you did not learn about Bitcoin yesterday. Sometimes people can be laconic, but very accurate in their answers, and this is more appreciated. Reading a long text while assuming the ending in advance is tiring, and many people value time more than anything else. A short vantage point can be more interesting because it can shoot at a target, and is usually marked with merits.

I remember when I was a newbie, you will give me this kind of advice and I wouldn't appreciate them. Though you were a kind of hostile to me then Grin. But time has proven you right. Howbeit, this is the kind of advice that reshapes and re-orient new members and set them in the right track.
The most important of them all is to be original. It is easy, smooth and simple to do what you know how to do best, than trying to be another to impress.
Op, you will enjoy this forum if you will be yourself and under your strengths and your weaknesses. Maybe ride on your strength and improve on your weaknesses.

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August 27, 2022, 05:57:56 AM
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You don't have to write a fiction to teach others.
I don't see anything wrong in what they did. Anything didactic is welcomed, nothing bad about it. Sharing an analogy makes a lesson or teaching stick better that when it isn't used. It's a kudos to the OP for me.


From the picture OP painted, I would easily merit the Sparrow dude than Paul. Sparrow's method of teaching appealed to me as it went deeper beyond the surface. Not just because it has more words in it but because it showed effort and input more than what Paul did. However, I still won't be shocked if someone merited Paul because as I kept saying that merit is a subjective thing. It depends on the perception of the user who is sending the merit across.

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"Go beyond a simple post"—in short, be original. OP, I see your post as an abstract, but that's not bad, you let everyone know that you did not learn about Bitcoin yesterday. Sometimes people can be laconic, but very accurate in their answers, and this is more appreciated. Reading a long text while assuming the ending in advance is tiring, and many people value time more than anything else. A short vantage point can be more interesting because it can shoot at a target, and is usually marked with merits.

I remember when I was a newbie, you will give me this kind of advice and I wouldn't appreciate them. Though you were a kind of hostile to me then Grin. But time has proven you right. Howbeit, this is the kind of advice that reshapes and re-orient new members and set them in the right track.
The most important of them all is to be original. It is easy, smooth and simple to do what you know how to do best, than trying to be another to impress.
Op, you will enjoy this forum if you will be yourself and under your strengths and your weaknesses. Maybe ride on your strength and improve on your weaknesses.

Yes, I can say that I had some distrust of you. A too-respectful attitude toward everyone sometimes arouses suspicion of sycophancy. But I was wrong. And also, not always "stroking the head" motivates a person to open up and show their talents. Sometimes criticism also works so that someone who is stronger than the offense can prove that the first opinion can be wrong. Which is what you did. And I'm very happy with your changes, and this can be a good example for everyone who thinks it's very difficult to get recognition on the forum.

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OP, I see your post as an abstract
Abstract and completely bloated and unnecessary.

From your fiction, I think your story is to teach new members that if they want to rank up, they must have contributions.
No, I think it's pretty clear OP's intention was to earn some merits by dropping this hot, steaming pile of shit and hoping that merit sources are actually flies instead of members who can see right through nonsense like this.

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Op your topic is good but would have been better if it read “Different perspective of bitcoin definition" then the content should be Sparrow's and Paul's definitions and other perspectives of how people view bitcoin. Your story is not realistic because the legendary member is not a councilor and has no business with both of them. Even the Sparrow has nothing affiliated to Paul's failure to gain merits. Another wrong aspect of your story is the notion that Paul is leaving the forum because he got no merits. Nobody should stay or leave the forum because of merits we are here to learn or earn from sharing information or offering services. They are many usage of this forum. Merit and activities system is here to fight spam. In terms of money many earn in this forum with lesser merit, no signature but their goods and services fetch them a good amount of funds. It all depends on the person's perspective of this forum.

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September 04, 2022, 07:47:02 PM
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Hmmm, I can read through the lines to see that OP intended sharing something which to him, was a secret (in another perspective) of how to earn merits, but unfortunately, his story of Paul and sparrow does not exactly represent how merit is earned on the forum.

Like lovesmayfamilis pointed out , a post or comment does not necessarily have to be long or short to earn merit, what matters is the message or knowledge in it, I've seen a one line comment earn more than 30 merits from different users.
This tells us earning merit is not about how long a post or comment is, a simple straight to the answer or point post or comment can still do better than going overboard with words that still end up saying what a few line of words could have said.

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September 04, 2022, 08:36:05 PM
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From your fiction, I think your story is to teach new members that if they want to rank up, they must have contributions.
No, I think it's pretty clear OP's intention was to earn some merits by dropping this hot, steaming pile of shit and hoping that merit sources are actually flies instead of members who can see right through nonsense like this.
I thought I was the only one thinking that until I found your reply. You know it is something around fishing merits or trying too hard when users are overcomplicating simple stuffs in the forum. I thought these merit attempt posts were over, lol. It reminded me those merit-related threads in Meta back in 2018.

I can imagine if this was Facebook and the OP was talking about Peter-Sparrow Reaction story. Cheesy
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for me, smart people are those who can explain a difficult topic in more simple and easy to understood sentences. It's more challenging really. However, I agree that a short explanation only, won't do a thing. The information should be dense and clear, so it could be delivered well. Sometimes an illustration is also needed cause I think it makes things become more interesting and our brain will process stories easier than some complicated words. Many great people can do great things for themselves, and only some of the great people can share and teach it to other people.

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I learned here that sending a long post versus a short post would not be as high chance of earning merits. A short one with a very direct answer could be more interesting and helpful to others. Ive seen this many times here and observed too. Also one that can provide an accurate explanatiom or witty response could make it.

Literally always answer direct to the point and short as possible. Higher ranks noticed that and splurge merits.

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No, I think it's pretty clear OP's intention was to earn some merits by dropping this hot, steaming pile of shit and hoping that merit sources are actually flies instead of members who can see right through nonsense like this.
I actually didn't mind it. It's not impressive by any means or great, but it still required an effort to write. Hopefully it's not copy-pasted from somewhere.


I have the feeling that some members believe they have to rank up sooner or later. That's simply not true. You might just not have the quality for it. Just because members A and B became hero and legendary members, it doesn't mean user C will as well one day. Maybe Jr. Member or Member is the maximum you can do based on the knowledge you have and the amount of work you put in. So what? Do the best with what you got.

We start school on equal terms, but some graduate with top grades and others barely make it through.
Two people can get the same entry-level jobs and one ends up becoming a General Manager of the company in a few years while the other remains at the bottom.
Etc., etc.   

Honesty is what is missing. People aren't honest to themselves. Can I really be measured and compared with the best or do I lack certain qualities? Is the world simple unfair or are other people better than me? Honest people shouldn't have troubles answering these questions.

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September 07, 2022, 03:23:44 AM
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In the end, Paul was very impressed and realized the difference between himself and Peter.
Who is Peter in this story? I thought Paul was learning from Sparrow? Totally broke my immersion! Cheesy

On a serious note, I suppose it takes effort to write up something like this. Not my cup of tea, but it's still better (depressingly) than 50% of the brain-bruising rubbish I end up sifting through.

So, kudos to OP for trying, although I wouldn't make a habit of it (writing stories like these, that is, not trying, you should keep that up).
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September 13, 2022, 11:14:11 AM
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Many people say that the story is too long, but I liked it. People perceive a different presentation of information, and for me, a little artistry is only good. Speaking of the subject, yes, you are right. Sometimes you need to give a little extra so that your answer has value.
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September 13, 2022, 06:29:49 PM
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To be more successful in this forum, you must be observant, proactive and willing to post more,  think more, have a more good perspective and go beyond just posting.
Is this the point of all your stories? Then, next time don't waste time writing long stories like this or just telling stories, I'm sure many people won't want to read if your main story is short. I don't know if you want to fish merit or not, but of course some people can think about it. I don't think getting merit should create threads, it's not mandatory because short and informative replies are better than useless thread.

I know you're learning, but don't post for merit because a lot of people don't like it. Do the things you want to do and don't let yourself down just because of some comments you don't expect, as long as it's good for you then do it. You will learn later.

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To be more successful in this forum, you must be observant, proactive and willing to post more,  think more, have a more good perspective and go beyond just posting.
Is this the point of all your stories? Then, next time don't waste time writing long stories like this or just telling stories, I'm sure many people won't want to read if your main story is short. I don't know if you want to fish merit or not, but of course some people can think about it. I don't think getting merit should create threads, it's not mandatory because short and informative replies are better than useless thread.

I know you're learning, but don't post for merit because a lot of people don't like it. Do the things you want to do and don't let yourself down just because of some comments you don't expect, as long as it's good for you then do it. You will learn later.

I think OP needed to understand that giving a quality post does not necessarily means engaging a complex write ups in pages that can make a tiring attempt on reading it, i think this should also serves a guide for the sake of nexttime:

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Write short sentences

        - You should keep sentences short for the same reason you keep paragraphs short: they’re easier to read and understand.
            Each sentence should have one simple thought. More than that creates complexity and invites confusion.

Keep paragraphs short

        - Look at any newspaper and notice the short paragraphs.
           That’s done to make reading easier, because our brains take in information better when it’s broken into small chunks.
          
Straight to the point

       - Save the readers time, because time is a precious thing.
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All that is needed is the quality content and the idea that has some taughts.

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