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August 27, 2022, 06:53:27 PM
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After reading the article, I can conclude and assume that those arrested people did that illegal thing not because of the gambling addiction.

There's an intent of stealing money and it was all planned right from the beginning. That's shady doings are their expertise from the start. That maybe their bad doings for long and it's just that they just finally caught now.

Although the news was in gambling portal website, I don't think it has something to do in gambling in general.
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August 27, 2022, 10:48:54 PM
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Extreme of gambling addiction, Your thinking maybe right they will do anything for money and win, by stealing it from a a gambling machine. That is clearly an extreme addiction, because addiction can do anything aka being a criminal and a thief is an extreme addiction. The theft specialist on a gambling machine they can do, it's possible that their previous work history is also related to a casino or that machine, or their previous profession was also a gambler. This news reminds me of some movies.
My point exactly. Since the court didn't ask for a psychological evaluation to determine if these folks are suffering from problem gambling we may not be able to 100% dismiss the fact that there could a correlation between the two. Here is what this article says in relation to addiction and crime.

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Addiction and crime are closely linked, with many people suffering with addiction resorting to stealing in order to fund their habit. As in the case of Knights, his compulsion to gamble is causing him to steal from houses in order to find the money needed to satisfy his addiction. If caught and convicted, he could face time behind bars.Knights is not the first person to resort to crime to fund a gambling addiction and, unfortunately, he will probably not be the last. Gambling requires money and when a person develops an addiction, the amount of money he or she needs increases. When on a losing streak, many gamblers continue to pour money into their habit to try to win back the money they have lost. This can become a vicious cycle that becomes impossible to break. When gambling addicts exhaust their own access to cash, they may borrow from family and friends and, when that source of funds dries up, turn to a life of crime. Burglaries and petty theft are common but some gambling addicts will commit fraud to the tune of thousands of pounds.

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August 27, 2022, 11:14:53 PM
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After reading the article, I can conclude and assume that those arrested people did that illegal thing not because of the gambling addiction.

There's an intent of stealing money and it was all planned right from the beginning. That's shady doings are their expertise from the start. That maybe their bad doings for long and it's just that they just finally caught now.

Although the news was in gambling portal website, I don't think it has something to do in gambling in general.
If those arrested persons were further investigated surely officers will get to know about these persons getting involved in other forms of shady things before getting caught in this incident. On this contrary a theft incident is being connected to gambling.

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August 27, 2022, 11:43:39 PM
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After reading the article, I can conclude and assume that those arrested people did that illegal thing not because of the gambling addiction.

There's an intent of stealing money and it was all planned right from the beginning. That's shady doings are their expertise from the start. That maybe their bad doings for long and it's just that they just finally caught now.

Although the news was in gambling portal website, I don't think it has something to do in gambling in general.
Agree with what you say, because regardless of what this is a robbery and a definite crime and this has nothing to do with gambling but when it comes to gambling portal news because indeed the object they are targeting is related to gambling machines.
Regardless of some of the reasons they said later this was a different matter because it was a pure crime.

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August 27, 2022, 11:52:38 PM
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If those arrested persons were further investigated surely officers will get to know about these persons getting involved in other forms of shady things before getting caught in this incident. On this contrary a theft incident is being connected to gambling.
The authority will also discover that they are involve in gambling as well, not sure about extreme addiction but this is not good at all and worst than addiction. If they commit a crime, that’s not addiction it’s more of their willing to commit a crime. Is this happened in a casino? How’s their security works if someone can take advantage of their machine and get huge money from it. Gambling site and casinos are mostly secured since they should always win and they really have to protect their assets at all cost.

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August 27, 2022, 11:54:39 PM
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Extreme of gambling addiction, Your thinking maybe right they will do anything for money and win, by stealing it from a a gambling machine. That is clearly an extreme addiction, because addiction can do anything aka being a criminal and a thief is an extreme addiction. The theft specialist on a gambling machine they can do, it's possible that their previous work history is also related to a casino or that machine, or their previous profession was also a gambler. This news reminds me of some movies.
My point exactly. Since the court didn't ask for a psychological evaluation to determine if these folks are suffering from problem gambling we may not be able to 100% dismiss the fact that there could a correlation between the two. Here is what this article says in relation to addiction and crime.

But not all cases of theft and criminal activity are caused by the urge of the suspects to gamble.  There are people who are too lazy to work and find stealing and robbery the easy way to get money.  Aside from that, news and reporters always sensationalized their reporting so even with a little glimpse of gambling addiction as a reason these guys is stealing, they will definitely put it since it is one of the interests of the anti-gambling party.  But there is nowhere stated in the article that these people are stealing to suffice their need to gamble.

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August 27, 2022, 11:56:58 PM
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Extreme of gambling addiction, Your thinking maybe right they will do anything for money and win, by stealing it from a a gambling machine. That is clearly an extreme addiction, because addiction can do anything aka being a criminal and a thief is an extreme addiction. The theft specialist on a gambling machine they can do, it's possible that their previous work history is also related to a casino or that machine, or their previous profession was also a gambler. This news reminds me of some movies.
My point exactly. Since the court didn't ask for a psychological evaluation to determine if these folks are suffering from problem gambling we may not be able to 100% dismiss the fact that there could a correlation between the two. Here is what this article says in relation to addiction and crime.

But not all cases of theft and criminal activity are caused by the urge of the suspects to gamble.  There are people who are too lazy to work and find stealing and robbery the easy way to get money.  Aside from that, news and reporters always sensationalized their reporting so even with a little glimpse of gambling addiction as a reason these guys is stealing, they will definitely put it since it is one of the interests of the anti-gambling party.  But there is nowhere stated in the article that these people are stealing to suffice their need to gamble.

Yes, that's true. Reading the article for this case, it doesn't mention anything about being gamblers of these robbers.
So we don't know the motives of these people why they are stealing money from these machines.
Other than the fact, that they want money but for what? We have no idea unless the statement comes from them what is the reason of their illegal activity.
So this robbery can't be directly attached to extreme gambling addiction because it is not stated from the article.
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August 28, 2022, 12:33:15 AM
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Yes, that's true. Reading the article for this case, it doesn't mention anything about being gamblers of these robbers.
So we don't know the motives of these people why they are stealing money from these machines.
Other than the fact, that they want money but for what? We have no idea unless the statement comes from them what is the reason of their illegal activity.
So this robbery can't be directly attached to extreme gambling addiction because it is not stated from the article.

We know that those which suffer from an addiction will do everything they can to keep their addiction going, this is not secret and we know that it happens, but this case in particular does not seem to have anything to do with gambling addiction at all, this seems like a case of a bunch of people that saw a weakness in a system and they did what they could to take advantage of it and now they have been caught by the police, and while I am glad they got caught it has nothing to do with gambling addiction for what we can see.
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August 28, 2022, 01:28:47 AM
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My personal opinion is that this is not related to gambling per se, maybe they just strike this operators with what the criminals do -easy money. And if we are talking about careers then definitely you can call them as career criminals. And with that, anything that they think they can make quick money without getting caught and easy job for them then they will do it regardless of what. You can even say that this is just a regular burglary as I have said, they are criminals so they are going to strike when ever and what ever, assuming that they "case the box". And so they can do with the money that they stole, either gambler or anything that suits their appetite.

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August 28, 2022, 03:05:36 AM
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From that story, we already know that if people are addicted to gambling, they will do anything to be able to have money and continue playing gambling. Maybe stealing is the easiest thing for them because they can do it secretly without anyone knowing. For this reason, we must always be aware when playing gambling and always avoid gambling addiction because it can be bad for us. By always controlling our games, we can prevent gambling addiction and even if we lose money in gambling, it will not be okay for us.

I can’t see any statement that mention that those people addicted on gambling. Maybe addicted on stealing is the proper term because there’s a different type of maniac on this kind of crime. Targeting casino or other places with slot doesn’t they are addicted on gambling because there intention is not gambling but rather robbing. I will just believe that they are addicted on gambling if the police run a background check and saw gambling activities on there daily activity. But this incident is just a regular robbing incident without any further details available with this case.
The addiction to stealing is the desire to be able to steal money secretly because before they steal, there is a feeling of uncertainty that makes their hearts flutter. But after the theft was successful, there was a sense of satisfaction in getting the money or the goods. I don't know if it's a regular robbery or has something to do with gambling activities but what is clear is if we are addicted to gambling or stealing, it will make us get big consequences in our lives and can make what we have will all disappear.

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“Members of this burglary ring allegedly targeted bars, restaurants, social clubs and other small businesses that have video poker and video gaming machines. They broke into dozens of these establishments in multiple counties and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash out of the machines.“

Having read the story do you think that this could be the extreme or a new dimension of gambling addiction?

The cause of burglary is not because of gambling so I don't think there is some addiction involved in the crime. The report didn't stated that those arrested burglars are gambling addicts before. They are an organization of thieves who just specifically target gambling machines because they know it has a lot of money inside it.

An extremely addicted gambler usually can't think straight. Their only goal is to have money to use in gambling so they won't bother joining these kind of organizations.
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August 28, 2022, 07:17:39 AM
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Yes, that's true. Reading the article for this case, it doesn't mention anything about being gamblers of these robbers.
So we don't know the motives of these people why they are stealing money from these machines.
Other than the fact, that they want money but for what? We have no idea unless the statement comes from them what is the reason of their illegal activity.
So this robbery can't be directly attached to extreme gambling addiction because it is not stated from the article.

We know that those which suffer from an addiction will do everything they can to keep their addiction going, this is not secret and we know that it happens, but this case in particular does not seem to have anything to do with gambling addiction at all, this seems like a case of a bunch of people that saw a weakness in a system and they did what they could to take advantage of it and now they have been caught by the police, and while I am glad they got caught it has nothing to do with gambling addiction for what we can see.
It will be difficult to overcome gambling addiction because they can do anything to have money. But this case seems to be just a robbery case that happened in the casino, but it is shown as if they are addicted to gambling and end up taking money in the casino machine. But we don't know what really happened in the case and keep guessing about it.

Or it could be, as @Silberman said, that a group of people see a flaw in a system in a casino so they can use it to make money. Hopefully, they won't repeat it in the future after they finish their punishment.

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August 28, 2022, 07:37:55 AM
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Having read the story do you think that this could be the extreme or a new dimension of gambling addiction?


This is where internet casinos have an advantage over traditional casinos. I don't believe this is an addiction, but more an act of stealing and taking advantage of the chance to milk gaming establishments. If an addicted gambler can be in his right mind and still borrow money or sell the property to gamble and never in any way harm others or take money from other companies, it means that what those guys did wasn't triggered by addiction, they just wanted the money that wasn't theirs, better that they were apprehended by the police so that it can serve as a lesson for others who want to try the same thing.
i tend in disagreeing mate , because couple years ago in Casino house in philippines ?there is a robbery that take place in which ended in shooting and Burning the casino down ? killing many people and who is the responsible ? it is an addicted gambler that has no control of his desire in gambling , meaning addiction can turn people into criminal way just to continue gambling.

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August 28, 2022, 07:39:30 AM
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This not just addiction, It is more than addiction. In this level I will call it stealing, taking what does not belong to you by all means. Addiction is when one bet a game continously without control. This is just far from gambling,  I consider it to be a criminal activity.
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August 28, 2022, 07:59:10 AM
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I'm not sure if this can be considered as addiction because the alleged people does not admit that they are into gambling addiction yet they are stealing from gambling businesses.

so they might be just a knowledgeable criminals about Online machinery ?

there are many factors to consider why they are doing this and for what reason they only targeting gaming machines.

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August 28, 2022, 10:46:59 AM
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This not just addiction, It is more than addiction. In this level I will call it stealing, taking what does not belong to you by all means. Addiction is when one bet a game continously without control. This is just far from gambling,  I consider it to be a criminal activity.

I agree with you. This behavior cannot be called an addiction, even though they risked a lot in robberies. I believe that these guys took robberies seriously. They probably also enjoyed successful robberies, but it was clearly more than a gambling addiction. In my opinion it is a desire for easy money and as we know in most cases that ends very quickly. 

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August 28, 2022, 11:01:08 AM
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I think that is plain burglary.  There is nowhere in the article stated that those burglars involved were gambling addicts.  I think they targeted establishments with gambling games because they knew that there is money to get from the machines.  They target of these machines is not to play or gamble but to commit a crime by stealing the money that is inside the machine.

Yes I also cannot see any connection with addiction to gambling.
I mean when you see a person is a gambling addict, then it only means that to gamble the person can do any thing and by any means.
But here this thieves aren’t gambling, rather they just stole the money through the loophole.
So yes it’s not the extreme of gambling addiction, it’s just basically those people needed the money for which they did this burglary.

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“Members of this burglary ring allegedly targeted bars, restaurants, social clubs and other small businesses that have video poker and video gaming machines. They broke into dozens of these establishments in multiple counties and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash out of the machines.“

Having read the story do you think that this could be the extreme or a new dimension of gambling addiction?

The cause of burglary is not because of gambling so I don't think there is some addiction involved in the crime. The report didn't stated that those arrested burglars are gambling addicts before. They are an organization of thieves who just specifically target gambling machines because they know it has a lot of money inside it.

An extremely addicted gambler usually can't think straight. Their only goal is to have money to use in gambling so they won't bother joining these kind of organizations.
I don't think all gambling places put their money in gambling machines because usually they use local coins or chips which can later be exchanged when they want to get cash and for human nature all kinds of ways are usually done by gambling addicts, therefore at least gambling must remain careful careful and able to control his emotions, many cases of theft and murder just because they want to take money for fun at the gambling place.

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August 28, 2022, 11:58:25 AM
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This not just addiction, It is more than addiction. In this level I will call it stealing, taking what does not belong to you by all means. Addiction is when one bet a game continously without control. This is just far from gambling,  I consider it to be a criminal activity.

I agree. This is just straight up criminal activity without any connection to gambling, except that the machines they stole are from a gambling place. Hardcore gamblers with nothing to lose will surely steal from someone they know or someone they can have a chance to get away with, and not be daring to steal from the platform where it spends its money.
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August 28, 2022, 12:25:30 PM
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Having read the story do you think that this could be the extreme or a new dimension of gambling addiction?

No man, looks like an ordinary criminals. Maybe they thought that if they will rob poker and roulette businesses, society and police will not try to catch them too hard. (Because a lot of people think that gambling is low moral business, sometimes also criminal).

But this was wrong decision as we can see it now.

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