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Author Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13  (Read 16004 times)
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August 29, 2022, 01:40:27 PM
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I'm not discarding the possibility of an upset and it would be great if we could see a good handicap on this one. Butler could win by out pointing Inoue but that's going to be a huge problem. It will depend on how his body and chin could hold up since we know very well that Naoya has real knockout power and speed hehe.

The current Inoue is the fastest and the most powerful puncher in their division, what to clash in the middle of the ring? he better has some strong will to take those punches and counter with his own. But one wrong calculation from Butler could end up him kissing the floor and having a goodnight just like what happened to the others who got victimized by Inoue's powerful punches. Upset can only happen if he can counter some good powerful punch as well just like how it ends with Marquez vs Pacquiao in their 4th fight.
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August 29, 2022, 01:53:58 PM
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Is there even any good challenge that Butler went through to acquire his belt?  If Casimero is only not reckless, Butler won't stand a chance of getting the WBO title. This match is already considered a win by Inoue and I'm sure of that.

I agree that this fight is just a formality for Inoue to unify the four prestigious belts in this bantamweight division. All he needs to do is show and boom, sure win for him. No disrespect to Butler but the belt he had right now does not rightfully belong to him.

This is a sure -6.5 rounds for me and i will be allocating a month wage to bet on this option as i'm very convinced that this will end in an early knockout like what happened to Donaire.
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August 29, 2022, 01:57:17 PM
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Is there even any good challenge that Butler went through to acquire his belt?  If Casimero is only not reckless, Butler won't stand a chance of getting the WBO title. This match is already considered a win by Inoue and I'm sure of that.

I agree that this fight is just a formality for Inoue to unify the four prestigious belts in this bantamweight division. All he needs to do is show and boom, sure win for him. No disrespect to Butler but the belt he had right now does not rightfully belong to him.

This is a sure -6.5 rounds for me and i will be allocating a month wage to bet on this option as i'm very convinced that this will end in an early knockout like what happened to Donaire.

It's too bad Casimero was already out in the picture, it could be Casimero vs Inoue if Inoue did accept the challenge. He will being an undisputed champion here but we cannot deny it's not exciting anymore, compared to a possible Inoue vs Casimero.

By the way, does anyone knows what's happening to Casimero now? I mean, what are his plans?

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August 29, 2022, 02:07:06 PM
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Inoue will have an easy fight I guess here, no questions asked. The venue in Japan was unlikely to have when in fact that it will be historical for Inoue to get the fourth belt in his career. I think betting against the odds here isn't a choice but we may never know, as per the sentiment, this really points to Inoue's win.
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August 29, 2022, 02:42:05 PM
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Inoue will have an easy fight I guess here, no questions asked. The venue in Japan was unlikely to have when in fact that it will be historical for Inoue to get the fourth belt in his career. I think betting against the odds here isn't a choice but we may never know, as per the sentiment, this really points to Inoue's win.

It's really a mismatch and would be a big challenge for Paul Butler. He should be preparing a lot if he wants to knock out Naoya but it will be hard for sure. I hope the remaining months would be enough for him to have full-time training because Inoue has an advantage when it comes to strength and stamina.
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August 29, 2022, 02:58:00 PM
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I'm curious how low the Inoue odds? does it will hit 1.01x? lol if it's happen then everyone agree Inoue will win the fight and Butler is having 0.000001% to win this fight Cheesy

I think Donaire is better than Butler, but Donaire lost in just 2 rounds against Inoue, so it's a clear result that Butler is seems impossible to win. Though this is the last belt for Inoue to become undisputed champion, but I'd say this is the most easiest fight for him.

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August 29, 2022, 03:04:56 PM
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A mismatch? An easy win for Inoue? Not even a big challenge for Inoue?
Is there a shrimp behind a rock, if Butler will be reunited with Naoya in the upcoming bantamweight boxing, although I have seen in several news sources that both sides are negotiating but this must be questioned, in my opinion it is not a balanced opponent and deserves to be fought in the ring.

If the review of this boxing between Butler vs. Naoya in order to elevate Butler to a future WBO champion, this is absolutely ridiculous and Naoya will be the victim behind all of this, I'm sure Naoya fans will be very disappointed if they find out at the end of the match Naoya was made a Butler sacrifice for the WBO, it's clearly not a balanced match why should Naoya.

I hope that if they are both set in the ring, hopefully Shingo Inoue, coach Naoya really gives good direction and is really able to do something in the next match on December 13th.

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August 29, 2022, 03:12:53 PM
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Inoue will have an easy fight I guess here, no questions asked. The venue in Japan was unlikely to have when in fact that it will be historical for Inoue to get the fourth belt in his career. I think betting against the odds here isn't a choice but we may never know, as per the sentiment, this really points to Inoue's win.

It's really a mismatch and would be a big challenge for Paul Butler. He should be preparing a lot if he wants to knock out Naoya but it will be hard for sure. I hope the remaining months would be enough for him to have full-time training because Inoue has an advantage when it comes to strength and stamina.

Yep this is a total mismatch if we directly compared the record of this 2 boxer. The only advantage Butler can get was his experience nothing more. He shouldn’t be on that position if Casimero manage to defend his belt without giving shit reason about his health. He can beat the shit out of Butler if he not avoiding the match for whatever reason he is holding. I don’t say Casimero is a better match for Inoue but Butler might not be on that position if Casimero fight him.

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August 29, 2022, 03:15:45 PM
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Inoue will have an easy fight I guess here, no questions asked. The venue in Japan was unlikely to have when in fact that it will be historical for Inoue to get the fourth belt in his career. I think betting against the odds here isn't a choice but we may never know, as per the sentiment, this really points to Inoue's win.

It's really a mismatch and would be a big challenge for Paul Butler. He should be preparing a lot if he wants to knock out Naoya but it will be hard for sure. I hope the remaining months would be enough for him to have full-time training because Inoue has an advantage when it comes to strength and stamina.

You can't teach a dog new tricks, style makes a fight, and like what Tyson said and always quoted you have a plan until you get hit in the face, honestly, I don't like the match-up, but they are both champions and will fight to defend the title, people are going to watch not because they are curious or wants to see who will win but they want to see Inoue's road to greatness and this is one of the fights that lead to that, and if by chance Butler get an upset win, it's going to be the biggest upset in the history and the biggest news this year in the boxing industry.

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August 29, 2022, 04:49:49 PM
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Inoue will have an easy fight I guess here, no questions asked. The venue in Japan was unlikely to have when in fact that it will be historical for Inoue to get the fourth belt in his career. I think betting against the odds here isn't a choice but we may never know, as per the sentiment, this really points to Inoue's win.

It's really a mismatch and would be a big challenge for Paul Butler. He should be preparing a lot if he wants to knock out Naoya but it will be hard for sure. I hope the remaining months would be enough for him to have full-time training because Inoue has an advantage when it comes to strength and stamina.

Yep this is a total mismatch if we directly compared the record of this 2 boxer. The only advantage Butler can get was his experience nothing more. He shouldn’t be on that position if Casimero manage to defend his belt without giving shit reason about his health. He can beat the shit out of Butler if he not avoiding the match for whatever reason he is holding. I don’t say Casimero is a better match for Inoue but Butler might not be on that position if Casimero fight him.

Mismatch in terms of record since Inoue has a lot of belt on his waist but you can’t never estimate boxer like Butler because he can still taint Inoue records in points since Inoue still has some limitation in terms of stamina and Butler can use it against him. I knew Inoue will be heavily favored by the judge on the match but we can’t say that this a sure in since Butler previous matches is good too which makes him eligible to contend Casimero belt at the first place.

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August 29, 2022, 05:43:29 PM
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Is there even any good challenge that Butler went through to acquire his belt?  If Casimero is only not reckless, Butler won't stand a chance of getting the WBO title. This match is already considered a win by Inoue and I'm sure of that.

I agree that this fight is just a formality for Inoue to unify the four prestigious belts in this bantamweight division. All he needs to do is show and boom, sure win for him. No disrespect to Butler but the belt he had right now does not rightfully belong to him.

This is a sure -6.5 rounds for me and i will be allocating a month wage to bet on this option as i'm very convinced that this will end in an early knockout like what happened to Donaire.

It's too bad Casimero was already out in the picture, it could be Casimero vs Inoue if Inoue did accept the challenge. He will being an undisputed champion here but we cannot deny it's not exciting anymore, compared to a possible Inoue vs Casimero.

By the way, does anyone knows what's happening to Casimero now? I mean, what are his plans?

I think Casimero and Inoue had an scheduled fight on April 25, 2020 but was cancelled due to pandemic.  It was for unification fight of  Inoue's WBA-IBF titles and Casimero's WBO belt.  We could have see a better fight than this if Casimero doesn't messed up.  If Butler don't run and face Inoue head on, I think of an early knock out on this fight.
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Mismatch in terms of record since Inoue has a lot of belt on his waist but you can’t never estimate boxer like Butler because he can still taint Inoue records in points since Inoue still has some limitation in terms of stamina and Butler can use it against him. I knew Inoue will be heavily favored by the judge on the match but we can’t say that this a sure in since Butler previous matches is good too which makes him eligible to contend Casimero belt at the first place.

Inoue has an advantage on record, ability, punching power, age, and what else?  Stamina can be worked out, but I think  Inoue will be fine since he had some fights that goes by the judge's decision, and all of them ended in a Unanimous Decision.  I had watched the last fight of Butler against Sultan and it wasn't that impressive. 

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August 29, 2022, 05:56:53 PM
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The current Inoue is the fastest and the most powerful puncher in their division, what to clash in the middle of the ring? he better has some strong will to take those punches and counter with his own. But one wrong calculation from Butler could end up him kissing the floor and having a goodnight just like what happened to the others who got victimized by Inoue's powerful punches. Upset can only happen if he can counter some good powerful punch as well just like how it ends with Marquez vs Pacquiao in their 4th fight.

I also think the same, Naoya Inoue's fast knockout on Nonito Donaire is a thing to look out for because that means in their previous fight Donaire can withstand punches from Inoue, but now it is a different story because Naoya Inoue easily defeat and knocks out Donaire it was a quick punch and a strong one, because of that It will not be an easy fight for Paul Butler, but Naoya Inoue can not underestimate Paul Butler aswell, he can do what Doinare have done to him in the past in their 1st meeting, but with 1 shot I think that is what it takes for Naoya Inoue will be needing to end Paul Butler just 1 punch,

Inoue will have an easy fight I guess here, no questions asked. The venue in Japan was unlikely to have when in fact that it will be historical for Inoue to get the fourth belt in his career. I think betting against the odds here isn't a choice but we may never know, as per the sentiment, this really points to Inoue's win.

Well, many are surely saying that Naoya Inoue will be the better man for sure and it will be an easy fight for him, well this is all true, but I think he will never underestimate Paul Butler if the fight would last just 1 round then I think that means he never underestimated Butler, that Inoue has given his all for the Unification title shot, and I think if he did that he surely is worthy of the victory and for Paul Butler if he can withstand the punch of Inoue then I should have praised him, and making this an upset then I think he can be worthy aswell, I think we just need to be open-minded with things anything can happen and a lot of underdogs right now is really winning it, unexpectedly, so we may never know, but I am for Naoya Inoue,
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I highly agree, even underdogs can fight and there is always an upset win in boxing history.  I just hope that this won't be one of them.  I also agree that Inoue is the best fighter in his division and he deserve it since he beats almost all tough opponent of his division. While on the contrary, Butler opponents where he won are not that great and often times just a filler.  If Casimero had not been stripped of the belt, Butler may probably lose to him and this scheduled fight won't happen.
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August 29, 2022, 06:40:31 PM
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I'm curious how low the Inoue odds? does it will hit 1.01x? lol if it's happen then everyone agree Inoue will win the fight and Butler is having 0.000001% to win this fight Cheesy

I think Donaire is better than Butler, but Donaire lost in just 2 rounds against Inoue, so it's a clear result that Butler is seems impossible to win. Though this is the last belt for Inoue to become undisputed champion, but I'd say this is the most easiest fight for him.

Congratulations Inoue for Knocking Out Butler in round 1 Grin
There's no bookie yet for this match?

I'm also curious how low it will be for Inoue and that's for sure. Everyone is agreeing that this is like a match that he'll win. And talking about upsets.

Yeah, there could be some upset that can happen but the discipline of Inoue is different from what you're saying. There could be some little errors to none.

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Mismatch in terms of record since Inoue has a lot of belt on his waist but you can’t never estimate boxer like Butler because he can still taint Inoue records in points since Inoue still has some limitation in terms of stamina and Butler can use it against him. I knew Inoue will be heavily favored by the judge on the match but we can’t say that this a sure in since Butler previous matches is good too which makes him eligible to contend Casimero belt at the first place.

Inoue has an advantage on record, ability, punching power, age, and what else?  Stamina can be worked out, but I think  Inoue will be fine since he had some fights that goes by the judge's decision, and all of them ended in a Unanimous Decision.  I had watched the last fight of Butler against Sultan and it wasn't that impressive. 

This is one of the few fights that doesn't impress the boxing community, it's not that Butler is not that good, but Inoue is so good on any fighter in his weight category that no fighters old and coming in can match up his power that he can rule that division for several tears if he opted, which I believe he will not, he is moving up because of lack of good opponents he is still good in the featherweight because a few pounds heavier he can still have the speed and the power to go on that division.

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August 29, 2022, 08:53:46 PM
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inoue's camp should not take this fight lightly as paul butler may train for this fight very hard as he knows this is the unification of 4 belts. it is no easy fight for both, let's put it that way. but i am certain, bookies will surely favour inoue with the odds. but in terms of the gap, we don't know yet.
now, i don't know how will casimero's camp will chase after inoue if in case inoue will win this fight...
I don’t think their age gap will certainly be a big issue because Paul is still confident to play and his age is not that too weak to consider. And since this is a big event, the camp of Paul will really prepare for this and so Inoue’s camp should also exert more effort as both sides have been very determined to win against its opponent. At the end of the day, the one who will become undefeated will always come up the winner in this fight.

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August 29, 2022, 09:08:28 PM
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Mismatch in terms of record since Inoue has a lot of belt on his waist but you can’t never estimate boxer like Butler because he can still taint Inoue records in points since Inoue still has some limitation in terms of stamina and Butler can use it against him. I knew Inoue will be heavily favored by the judge on the match but we can’t say that this a sure in since Butler previous matches is good too which makes him eligible to contend Casimero belt at the first place.

Inoue has an advantage on record, ability, punching power, age, and what else?  Stamina can be worked out, but I think  Inoue will be fine since he had some fights that goes by the judge's decision, and all of them ended in a Unanimous Decision.  I had watched the last fight of Butler against Sultan and it wasn't that impressive.  

This is one of the few fights that doesn't impress the boxing community, it's not that Butler is not that good, but Inoue is so good on any fighter in his weight category that no fighters old and coming in can match up his power that he can rule that division for several tears if he opted, which I believe he will not, he is moving up because of lack of good opponents he is still good in the featherweight because a few pounds heavier he can still have the speed and the power to go on that division.

We can't be 100% sure about Inoue's win on this match, as Butler more than likely will prepare for this fight.
As he will be facing Inoue, definitely, his preparation may be different than when he was about to face Casimero or Sultan.
But this is a good challenge for Inoue, if he will win, he will get all the belts for this weight division.
They have good months of preparation for this unification fight. We will see if Inoue can indeed get all those belts.
High likely that he will move his weight division if in case he can snatch all those belts, what else should he do, right?
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August 29, 2022, 09:14:52 PM
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inoue's camp should not take this fight lightly as paul butler may train for this fight very hard as he knows this is the unification of 4 belts. it is no easy fight for both, let's put it that way. but i am certain, bookies will surely favour inoue with the odds. but in terms of the gap, we don't know yet.
now, i don't know how will casimero's camp will chase after inoue if in case inoue will win this fight...
I don’t think their age gap will certainly be a big issue because Paul is still confident to play and his age is not that too weak to consider. And since this is a big event, the camp of Paul will really prepare for this and so Inoue’s camp should also exert more effort as both sides have been very determined to win against its opponent. At the end of the day, the one who will become undefeated will always come up the winner in this fight.
There's always a one winner but speaking about possible of draw which is almost unlikely to happen but its true that Inoue's camp shouldnt really be that too confident in against with Butler
but for us people or fans who do know on how Inoue fights then we can really expect that he would really be the favorite of this upcoming fight.I dont belittle Butler but with
raw power and technicality then i would really be hands down on Inoue which he had been able to prove out these area which he can really dominate out.
Lets see on what are the preparations that had been made.

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I understand the concern of others here that people should not underestimate Paul Butler. Unfortunately, I can't apply that here in this fight for obvious reasons. Even Paul Butler will do a full preparation for this match, do you really think that Naoya Inoue won't be doing the same?

I believed in upset. I believed that underdog that can turn the tables around. I believed that Favorites isn't always the winner.

But let's be real here. Paul Butler even how good his preparation is, will not stand a chance against Inoue. He didn't get his title in a competitive way in the first place. He is just being considered because he has the belt and that's it.

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