[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

[TravelMug]

No doubt, strategy wise, it might be better if he thinks of surviving the full 12 rounds. Just play defense and try to counter and score points. But if he is man enough as he have said in interviews, he will go toe to toe and ended up in the canvass for good 10 count, Body shots or that left of Inoue, which is very quick but and if hits Butler on the chin or in the temple, it will be a ko win again for the Monster.

Paul Butler should just go toe to toe. It's a rare chance to have a chance fighting Naoya Inoue so better feel the pain of punches that Inoue will land on him. If Butler will just run, he will just be part of an embarrassing history that runs throughout the match just to avoid the heavy punch of Inoue.

Perhaps, but it's going to be a suicide for him. If he felt the boxer, the initial reaction for him is to cover up. Unless he is really going for a war then he should be ready with his chin because that will be big target for hard hitting Inoue. And it will be over in less than 6 rounds maybe if he goes toe-to-toe I reckon.

If he will fight toe to toe, he might even get respect from anyone including Naoya Inoue and prove that even though he is up against a monster and as a super heavy underdog, he is not afraid to show what he got.

I'm not sure about the respect though, they are trying to hurt each other, even might be thinking of cutting each other heads off. He will get the respect if he win this fight, which the majority of us thinks that is a very slim chance of happening.

[Silberman]

No doubt, strategy wise, it might be better if he thinks of surviving the full 12 rounds. Just play defense and try to counter and score points. But if he is man enough as he have said in interviews, he will go toe to toe and ended up in the canvass for good 10 count, Body shots or that left of Inoue, which is very quick but and if hits Butler on the chin or in the temple, it will be a ko win again for the Monster.

Paul Butler should just go toe to toe. It's a rare chance to have a chance fighting Naoya Inoue so better feel the pain of punches that Inoue will land on him. If Butler will just run, he will just be part of an embarrassing history that runs throughout the match just to avoid the heavy punch of Inoue.

If he will fight toe to toe, he might even get respect from anyone including Naoya Inoue and prove that even though he is up against a monster and as a super heavy underdog, he is not afraid to show what he got.

I think many boxing fans will agree with you, however we need to look at this from the point of view of the boxer himself, if Butler goes out there and tries to fight Inoue and answer every single punch he receives there is a very real possibility that he could be knocked out on the first rounds of the fight, and you must understand that this is something very difficult to accept for someone that is a champion, so even if he knows there is not much of a possibility for him to pull the win if he fights defensively at least he can protect his ego that way and not lose as fast as he could lose in the scenario that you present.

[stadus]

No doubt about that, if you will review their previous fights and the way they finished or beats their opponents.
Inoue's fighting skills are far better than Butler, maybe Butler can last long if he will keep on avoiding a toe-to-toe exchanges of punches.
But if Inoue box him up the chance of him being knock down is high. The monster always has a solid follow up punch, a killing instinct that
will bring him down.

No one can run with Inoue with his current self today because he punched them in the stomach and that too will gonna be equivalent to being punched solid in the face. And also it will be hard fighting him toe to toe because he has some extremely fast punches and is powerful enough to stun and knock out his opponent in the span of split seconds. I'm not closing the chance for Butler but we all know that he has only little chance to win this fight or even to survive up to the last rounds.

Yes, no offense for Butler's fans here but clearly, he is no match for the current Inoue and dodging the punches won't get him safe too because the latter can be fast if he wanted to which also makes his punches harder to predict. Butler might be surprised that he is punched already even before he noticed it, that's how fast the current monster is and in fact, Donaire said that Inoue now is unpredictable and harder to read.

[Japinat]

No doubt, strategy wise, it might be better if he thinks of surviving the full 12 rounds. Just play defense and try to counter and score points. But if he is man enough as he have said in interviews, he will go toe to toe and ended up in the canvass for good 10 count, Body shots or that left of Inoue, which is very quick but and if hits Butler on the chin or in the temple, it will be a ko win again for the Monster.

Paul Butler should just go toe to toe. It's a rare chance to have a chance fighting Naoya Inoue so better feel the pain of punches that Inoue will land on him. If Butler will just run, he will just be part of an embarrassing history that runs throughout the match just to avoid the heavy punch of Inoue.

If he will fight toe to toe, he might even get respect from anyone including Naoya Inoue and prove that even though he is up against a monster and as a super heavy underdog, he is not afraid to show what he got.

I agree even though it's easier said than done because we aren't the ones who will face the monster of Japan soon

But yes, if Butler will just run mostly throughout the fight, he will probably be teased and embarrassed by the public because of the cowardice he showed. Yet he will be respected if he goes head-to-head towards Inoue without backing down an inch, bruises will be healed but respect is earned. Anyway, only Butler can answer that for us if he truly a man of himself just like what he said recently.

[harizen]

I'm not sure about the respect though, they are trying to hurt each other, even might be thinking of cutting each other heads off. He will get the respect if he win this fight, which the majority of us thinks that is a very slim chance of happening.

That was more of a respectful way for boxers if they will try to hurt each other. Butler can still get the respect of the fans not just by winning but if he will able to make the fight a tough and difficult one for Inoue. But since it's unlikely that Butler can't go toe-to-toe against Inoue, as long as we see him trying his best to compete against the Japanese Big Monster, then respect might also come from it.

Butler can run as a usual and common preventive way to avoid the monster. That's a strategy after all but shouldn't be the entire match that he is running. That's not boxing already trying to just avoid being Knock Out by Inoue on Butler's record.

[Kelvinid]

Butler can run as a usual and common preventive way to avoid the monster. That's a strategy after all but shouldn't be the entire match that he is running. That's not boxing already trying to just avoid being Knock Out by Inoue on Butler's record.

Maybe he was successful with Sultan, but with a faster and more powerful Inoue, I think he will have trouble all night if he will just uses the same strategy. Inoue loves an opponent that will go toe to toe with him, but I'm pretty sure he also has a strategy to beat an opponent that would love to run.

[cabron]

No doubt, strategy wise, it might be better if he thinks of surviving the full 12 rounds. Just play defense and try to counter and score points. But if he is man enough as he have said in interviews, he will go toe to toe and ended up in the canvass for good 10 count, Body shots or that left of Inoue, which is very quick but and if hits Butler on the chin or in the temple, it will be a ko win again for the Monster.

Paul Butler should just go toe to toe. It's a rare chance to have a chance fighting Naoya Inoue so better feel the pain of punches that Inoue will land on him. If Butler will just run, he will just be part of an embarrassing history that runs throughout the match just to avoid the heavy punch of Inoue.

If he will fight toe to toe, he might even get respect from anyone including Naoya Inoue and prove that even though he is up against a monster and as a super heavy underdog, he is not afraid to show what he got.

I agree even though it's easier said than done because we aren't the ones who will face the monster of Japan soon

But yes, if Butler will just run mostly throughout the fight, he will probably be teased and embarrassed by the public because of the cowardice he showed. Yet he will be respected if he goes head-to-head towards Inoue without backing down an inch, bruises will be healed but respect is earned. Anyway, only Butler can answer that for us if he truly a man of himself just like what he said recently.

Naoya's fights rarely end in 12 rounds, a KO could happen somewhere before the 6th round if Butler fights toe to toe.
Fight is few months away but Stake is too excited to list the fight  Inoue 1.02 vs Butler 12.00. If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

[Yamifoud]

Naoya's fights rarely end in 12 rounds, a KO could happen somewhere before the 6th round if Butler fights toe to toe.
Fight is few months away but Stake is too excited to list the fight  Inoue 1.02 vs Butler 12.00. If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Huge call, good luck mate, when everyone is on Inoue, I think that 12.00 odds of Butler is really attractive. After all, Butler is also a champ although we can say that Inoue could really dominate him, but who knows, it's an undisputed fight, for sure Butler has been preparing with hard training as well.

Anyway, good luck with that, an upset will make Inoue's ranking go down and will make people stop hyping his name that he is the next Manny Pacquiao.

[chaser15]

Fight is few months away but Stake is too excited to list the fight  Inoue 1.02 vs Butler 12.00. If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Didn't expect that a crypto bookie will list right away a fight that is around 3 months to go. Usually, in the Bantamweight division especially involving Naoya Inoue, it will be listed on a crypto sportsbook 2-3 days before the fight. Maybe if against Super Underdog, there might be an exception.

I'm sure that the odds for Butler won't change if no minor injuries will be sustained by Inoue during the training period. I honestly even think that from 12.00, odds for him will be as high as 15.00, and Butler winning by KnockOut is around 30.00.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Fight is few months away but Stake is too excited to list the fight  Inoue 1.02 vs Butler 12.00. If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Didn't expect that a crypto bookie will list right away a fight that is around 3 months to go. Usually, in the Bantamweight division especially involving Naoya Inoue, it will be listed on a crypto sportsbook 2-3 days before the fight. Maybe if against Super Underdog, there might be an exception.

It just shows the Inoue is already a big star, usually this kind of listing that is too early only happens to name boxers or at least fighters from the US. But Inoue has earn his name already and that is why his fight has been listed very early.

I'm sure that the odds for Butler won't change if no minor injuries will be sustained by Inoue during the training period. I honestly even think that from 12.00, odds for him will be as high as 15.00, and Butler winning by KnockOut is around 30.00.

Yeah, I'm not seeing a major jump as well. Unless UK fans of Butler will throw a lot of money in his side. But I doubt that as well that it could move the odds closer. So there will be no swing what so ever. And for Butler fans out there, the odds are very much attractive for them. 

[goinmerry]

Yeah, I'm not seeing a major jump as well. Unless UK fans of Butler will throw a lot of money in his side. But I doubt that as well that it could move the odds closer. So there will be no swing what so ever. And for Butler fans out there, the odds are very much attractive for them. 

That Paul Bulter odds just show us that bookies are giving around a close to 99% chance that Naoya Inoue will win. It was not just because Inoue is popular but it's really clear that Butler has no way to win. Upset is possible in boxing but not for this match. This is not even between a Champion vs Champion as Butler didn't get a chance to prove he is worthy of the WBO title because of Casimero's violation of British Boxing terms.

You are correct that Butler fans will be happy with the odds as they were surely willing to put money on him regardless if the chances of winning are too small.

[serjent05]

No doubt, strategy wise, it might be better if he thinks of surviving the full 12 rounds. Just play defense and try to counter and score points. But if he is man enough as he have said in interviews, he will go toe to toe and ended up in the canvass for good 10 count, Body shots or that left of Inoue, which is very quick but and if hits Butler on the chin or in the temple, it will be a ko win again for the Monster.

Paul Butler should just go toe to toe. It's a rare chance to have a chance fighting Naoya Inoue so better feel the pain of punches that Inoue will land on him. If Butler will just run, he will just be part of an embarrassing history that runs throughout the match just to avoid the heavy punch of Inoue.

LOL, you are asking Butler to get KO'ed in an early round.  I do not think Butler has a solid chin that can absorb punches of Inoue.  If he goes toe to toe, then I think the match will end before we know it  .

If he will fight toe to toe, he might even get respect from anyone including Naoya Inoue and prove that even though he is up against a monster and as a super heavy underdog, he is not afraid to show what he got.

Butler can gain respect even though he won't fight toe to toe.  Boxing isn't about punching only, that involves, defenses, evasion, and strategy.  Even the use of the ring can earn respect from the audience.  So I do not mind Butler running around the ring as long as he can cut angles and position that make Inoue ineffective, I think that is enough to give Butler respect.

Butler can run as a usual and common preventive way to avoid the monster. That's a strategy after all but shouldn't be the entire match that he is running. That's not boxing already trying to just avoid being Knock Out by Inoue on Butler's record.

Maybe he was successful with Sultan, but with a faster and more powerful Inoue, I think he will have trouble all night if he will just uses the same strategy. Inoue loves an opponent that will go toe to toe with him, but I'm pretty sure he also has a strategy to beat an opponent that would love to run.

I think the same too, Sultan is way too sluggish so the strategy of Butler is very effective on him.  But Inoue has the reflexes, the quickness and the knowledge to cut the ring so I think Butler will have a problem impementing his hit and run tactic.

[agustina2]

If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Looks like it won't going to change but maybe there's a possibility that it will even rise. Paul Butler has no chance to win here that's why odds for him might increase as the fight approaches. We can't expect a miracle to happen here and the only way for Butler to win is to really give a hard punch that can put Inoue down and kiss the floor.

Although betting $10 in favor of Butler should not harm your pocket even your chances to win are really small.

[TimeTeller]

If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Looks like it won't going to change but maybe there's a possibility that it will even rise. Paul Butler has no chance to win here that's why odds for him might increase as the fight approaches. We can't expect a miracle to happen here and the only way for Butler to win is to really give a hard punch that can put Inoue down and kiss the floor.

Although betting $10 in favor of Butler should not harm your pocket even your chances to win are really small.

Since betting on Inoue has very small odds, you can also look for other betting lines.
But for me, betting on Butler as a winner has also a very slim chance.
Just need to wait for the bookies to open those betting lines, like which round it will end?
Or will the fight go the distance? I believe, this is more worth it to bet, rather than betting a small amount of Butler.
But that's your money, so up to you which betting line you are more comfortable to bet with.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It does not look good on the side of Butler, everyone is thinking that Inoue will win this, that -3300 is a big statement, big disrespect.
And hey, 97.1% chances of winning, it gives Butler an almost impossible chance to win.

As expected since the beginning and even that fight is not officially dealt with.

It's even fortunate that Paul Butler was given around 2% of winning the match  Not a disrespectful comment from me just to be clear.

Even though there's a thing called "lucky punch", Butler doesn't have the strength to give a fatal blow to Inoue even if he is able to land one.

The fan of his would also acknowledge that possible lucky punch despite all of those percentages of winning that has been shown.

Not a disrespect but this could be taken by him as a challenge and prove everyone that he's got what it takes to beat the champ. Well, that could just be his mindset upon looking at these odds and percentage that's shown to the public by many speculators.

Most likely that will be Paul Butler's motivation here, because he is a huge underdog so his mindset should shift gear and focus that he can do it, be positive against the Monster.

So in the first couple of rounds we will see if he can stay with Inoue and that motivation and his big heart of him will be enough to counter the power of Naoya and survived the distance. But I doubt it because Inoue is truly an amazing fighter and complete and still improving every fight.

being the underdog in this match should give butler a very good motivation to prove the boxing community that he has something to offer also inside the ring. so either he will be very prepared on this fight or just let this fight be over and collect his paycheck. but his performance inside the ring will determine if he will get another good fight in the future, even if he will lose on inoue. now, let's wait the odds of other betting lines on this match because right now, it is not worth betting at 1.02x on inoue, right?

I do not know,. but seeing how things are going, I think that the most optioned for me is Inoue, particularly I think that he is a more explosive boxer who can determine any ending to the last round, and with a great option that he can give a surprise with a knockout, apart from that I like him a lot his style, on the other hand Butler I see it well, he is strong, he is a boxer who can also surprise to give a knockout, this fight will have many good things, what I like is how butler manages the times, that It makes it seem like he has everything under control, but you don't have to trust either, things in boxing can go either way.

If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Looks like it won't going to change but maybe there's a possibility that it will even rise. Paul Butler has no chance to win here that's why odds for him might increase as the fight approaches. We can't expect a miracle to happen here and the only way for Butler to win is to really give a hard punch that can put Inoue down and kiss the floor.

Although betting $10 in favor of Butler should not harm your pocket even your chances to win are really small.

Since betting on Inoue has very small odds, you can also look for other betting lines.
But for me, betting on Butler as a winner has also a very slim chance.
Just need to wait for the bookies to open those betting lines, like which round it will end?
Or will the fight go the distance? I believe, this is more worth it to bet, rather than betting a small amount of Butler.
But that's your money, so up to you which betting line you are more comfortable to bet with.

Right now I see things very complicated, especially for betting, I have seen how many people wait for the statistics, to give themselves a guide of what they can do, but who can the money and will risk it is ourselves as bettors, I in In case I do my personal research, that includes doing research online, interviews, something you may have seen, maybe some kind of training videos, everything that has to do with boxers, check here the forum is an inflatable option and it is the last option that I see is that it is usually one of the most powerful information tools that exist, I like to review the news, and especially internal forums that have to do with boxing, then make a decision that has nothing to do with associated emotions, which is something very difficult, so I do.

[TravelMug]

I'm not sure about the respect though, they are trying to hurt each other, even might be thinking of cutting each other heads off. He will get the respect if he win this fight, which the majority of us thinks that is a very slim chance of happening.

That was more of a respectful way for boxers if they will try to hurt each other. Butler can still get the respect of the fans not just by winning but if he will able to make the fight a tough and difficult one for Inoue. But since it's unlikely that Butler can't go toe-to-toe against Inoue, as long as we see him trying his best to compete against the Japanese Big Monster, then respect might also come from it.

Butler can run as a usual and common preventive way to avoid the monster. That's a strategy after all but shouldn't be the entire match that he is running. That's not boxing already trying to just avoid being Knock Out by Inoue on Butler's record.

Ok I got your point, but still maybe it is just a consolation to say that he gain respect because he did fight the best boxer in this division. And as you can with Ryan Garcia's case, he wanted to fight the best in Davis because he wanted to gain respect. I don't think that he will get it at him losing the fight.

So again, we say that just to comfort those who didn't win in competition, another just is Usyk vs Joshua. In the post fight conference, fans and media are clapping him, maybe sign of respect, but in the end, the pain of losing the second time to Usyk is going to hurt his legacy.

[carlisle1]

If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Looks like it won't going to change but maybe there's a possibility that it will even rise. Paul Butler has no chance to win here that's why odds for him might increase as the fight approaches. We can't expect a miracle to happen here and the only way for Butler to win is to really give a hard punch that can put Inoue down and kiss the floor.

Although betting $10 in favor of Butler should not harm your pocket even your chances to win are really small.

Since betting on Inoue has very small odds, you can also look for other betting lines.
But for me, betting on Butler as a winner has also a very slim chance.
Just need to wait for the bookies to open those betting lines, like which round it will end?
Or will the fight go the distance? I believe, this is more worth it to bet, rather than betting a small amount of Butler.
But that's your money, so up to you which betting line you are more comfortable to bet with.

If you are good with the odd, then you can go for it, but I also suggest waiting for more additional odds to be open, most of the time

bookies open these kinds of odds when the fight is nearing or during the fight night. Those mentioned options do have better odds instead

of the ML. But then again, if you are good with the ML, you can simply place your bet now then wait for the date.

[btc_angela]

If this is not going to change by 1st week of Dec, I'd be hoping for an upset betting $10 for Butler.

Looks like it won't going to change but maybe there's a possibility that it will even rise. Paul Butler has no chance to win here that's why odds for him might increase as the fight approaches. We can't expect a miracle to happen here and the only way for Butler to win is to really give a hard punch that can put Inoue down and kiss the floor.

Although betting $10 in favor of Butler should not harm your pocket even your chances to win are really small.

Since betting on Inoue has very small odds, you can also look for other betting lines.
But for me, betting on Butler as a winner has also a very slim chance.

Others might take that risk and bet on Butler because of the attractive odds and hope he can pull an upset.

Just need to wait for the bookies to open those betting lines, like which round it will end?
Or will the fight go the distance? I believe, this is more worth it to bet, rather than betting a small amount of Butler.
But that's your money, so up to you which betting line you are more comfortable to bet with.

I'm not sure if the fight will also go to distance, most likely it will end in the middle rounds, like maybe 5-6. And it this is good odds, then maybe it's worth to give it a shot and see if our predictions happen.

ML? nah, not worth for us, just regular gamblers. Maybe there are whales that are willing to take their chances and bet in a thousands of dollars.

[Hypnosis00]

ML? nah, not worth for us, just regular gamblers. Maybe there are whales that are willing to take their chances and bet in a thousands of dollars.

Whales would not bet on that, though it's very small and most likely Inoue will win, but there's still a huge risk betting on that low odds. I would rather bet on Inoue winning by KO between rounds 1-3 than put a bet on ML. I think everybody here believes that Inoue will win, but as I said, it's a high risk putting a huge bet on ML as he is not guaranteed a winner.

[Oasisman]

Others might take that risk and bet on Butler because of the attractive odds and hope he can pull an upset.

The risks is very high when you place a bet on Butler. Setting up an attractive odd for the underdog is a clear indicator that the opponent have almost no chance at winning at all.
When you bet on Butler to win, you are most likely going to throw away your money. Though I can see, some are starting to get interested in ML for Paul Butler. Well, if you've got money to burn, take the risk, upsets are always there anyway. Who knows.