[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

[Ziskinberg]

For sure will go on Inoue this time because I think he is much stronger than Butler since he is young fast and have killer punch which can totally knock out his opponent.

Everytime Inoue has a fight, the majority of the fans are rooting him to win, so it's not a surprise because he is the better fighter here based on their stats in comparison. Actually, fans are not discussing on who will win, they are discussing on how Inoue will win.

That is obvious, who among us fans wanted their boxer to lose?  It is that Inoue had proven himself many times that he is really a monster in the ring making us think that there is so little chance for his opponent to beat him.  It was Donaire who I think can beat Inoue but then the latter totally destroyed the Filipino flash on their rematch.

Donaire has the power as well, unfortunately, he is already not in his prime, so I'm not surprised that Inoue destroyed him in the rematch. The closest challenger I think would give Inoue some problem is Casimero, however, due to his careless action, he got stripped with his belt.

Even if Donaire is in his prime, I think Inoue can still beat him, but maybe not as easy as he beat in their rematch. Well, for sure Donaire is going to retire soon while Inoue is a rising superstar, so we still have a lot of fights to expect from the monster. If he decides to move up, then it will only make his career more exciting as he will face bigger challenges in heavier division.

[mirakal]

For sure will go on Inoue this time because I think he is much stronger than Butler since he is young fast and have killer punch which can totally knock out his opponent.

Everytime Inoue has a fight, the majority of the fans are rooting him to win, so it's not a surprise because he is the better fighter here based on their stats in comparison. Actually, fans are not discussing on who will win, they are discussing on how Inoue will win.

That is obvious, who among us fans wanted their boxer to lose?  It is that Inoue had proven himself many times that he is really a monster in the ring making us think that there is so little chance for his opponent to beat him.  It was Donaire who I think can beat Inoue but then the latter totally destroyed the Filipino flash on their rematch.

Donaire has the power as well, unfortunately, he is already not in his prime, so I'm not surprised that Inoue destroyed him in the rematch. The closest challenger I think would give Inoue some problem is Casimero, however, due to his careless action, he got stripped with his belt.

Yes, it wasn't that surprising that Donaire was defeated but what's surprising is how Inoue defeated the Filipino Flash in just mere 2 rounds, I mean, I wasn't expecting that to happen but Inoue did it anyway. That only shows that he improved for the better and that makes him almost invulnerable because he mastered his offensive and defensive skills.

Casimero on the other hand, it's very unfortunate what happened to him because we are speculating about them last time that maybe it was him who will give the monster some challenge. But I guess our only last chance to see them inside the ring is if they will climb the next weight class.

[lionheart78]

Yes and in Inoue's last fight, he completely destroyed Donaire in just 2 rounds, so talk about not just simply knocking out his opponent, he is taking them down in less than 7.5 rounds.

Yeah, that was unexpected, I always thought if someone is able to beat Inoue, it is Donaire, but I was proven wrong, and Inoue makes Donaire looks like an amateur in their rematch.  I thought it may be because of old age but the longer I think the more convince I am that it isn't the age that made Donaire fail to win, it is that Inoue is a monster of his current weight Division and it looks like no one can be a match for him.

So if Butler survived the full 12 rounds, that's already a big accomplishment for him because it's very tough to hang with Inoue because of his power in both hands.

That would be 12 full rounds of punishment.  If I were Butler I would just get KO'ed in the first round rather than being pummeled throughout the entire fight.  It will be an accomplishment if he hangs around until round 12.  That is if he doesn't run around and doesn't evade confrontation in the ring which I think will be his tactic in order to tire Inoue and at least lessen Inoue's punching power in the later round.

Casimero on the other hand, it's very unfortunate what happened to him because we are speculating about them last time that maybe it was him who will give the monster some challenge. But I guess our only last chance to see them inside the ring is if they will climb the next weight class.

It is unfortunate to us, viewers who are expecting Inoue - Casimero fight but was canceled due to the pandemic.   It would be an interesting fight since the curiousness of whether Casimero can win against Inoue is still unanswered.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

For sure will go on Inoue this time because I think he is much stronger than Butler since he is young fast and have killer punch which can totally knock out his opponent.

Everytime Inoue has a fight, the majority of the fans are rooting him to win, so it's not a surprise because he is the better fighter here based on their stats in comparison. Actually, fans are not discussing on who will win, they are discussing on how Inoue will win.

That is obvious, who among us fans wanted their boxer to lose?  It is that Inoue had proven himself many times that he is really a monster in the ring making us think that there is so little chance for his opponent to beat him.  It was Donaire who I think can beat Inoue but then the latter totally destroyed the Filipino flash on their rematch.

Donaire has the power as well, unfortunately, he is already not in his prime, so I'm not surprised that Inoue destroyed him in the rematch. The closest challenger I think would give Inoue some problem is Casimero, however, due to his careless action, he got stripped with his belt.

Even if Donaire is in his prime, I think Inoue can still beat him, but maybe not as easy as he beat in their rematch. Well, for sure Donaire is going to retire soon while Inoue is a rising superstar, so we still have a lot of fights to expect from the monster. If he decides to move up, then it will only make his career more exciting as he will face bigger challenges in heavier division.

Yes, but it's going to b close though, Donaire was very quick and his left hand is dangerous when he was in his prime. He only suffer a lost when he goes up in weight. But I think Donaire as a bantamweight vs this version of Donaire will be a classic match.

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

[goinmerry]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

[Kemarit]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

I think the discussion was brought up on the premise that Butler will last the whole fight. That's why speculate that he will be mark or will disfigure his face but still wanted to continue the fight. Or his ring will have the duty to throw the white flag to prevent Inoue from being hurt. Look at the Pacquiao fight, Antonio Margarito faces was disfigured by Manny, and yet Robert Garcia refuses to throw the towel because of their "Mexican Pride". And now Antonio was able to make a comeback after that, and now has a artficial eye because of that. Corner shouldn't let that happen to their boxer.

[Hypnosis00]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

I think the discussion was brought up on the premise that Butler will last the whole fight. That's why speculate that he will be mark or will disfigure his face but still wanted to continue the fight. Or his ring will have the duty to throw the white flag to prevent Inoue from being hurt. Look at the Pacquiao fight, Antonio Margarito faces was disfigured by Manny, and yet Robert Garcia refuses to throw the towel because of their "Mexican Pride". And now Antonio was able to make a comeback after that, and now has a artficial eye because of that. Corner shouldn't let that happen to their boxer.

Career's not over for Butler in case he will lose this fight, his side has to protect his health as boxing is just a competition, no boxer can win all the time, sometimes they have to accept and just try to work more to improve next time. Being brave is important but being smart is more important.

[Pamadar]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

Butler camps need to act fast if they are not want to see Butler kissing the floor.

I see your point and it's true Inoue's skills can put him down in the way that he doesn't know where it's coming,
this fighter has an extraordinary speed in this division.

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

[Yamifoud]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

Butler camps need to act fast if they are not want to see Butler kissing the floor.

I see your point and it's true Inoue's skills can put him down in the way that he doesn't know where it's coming,
this fighter has an extraordinary speed in this division.

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

There's nothing to improve for Butler, he did a great job on his last fight and he got the belt. I think surviving is the most important thing he has to do here, going toe to toe will likely end the fight early, and Inoue will be declared as the undisputed champion.

[stadus]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.

[Ziskinberg]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

Butler camps need to act fast if they are not want to see Butler kissing the floor.

I see your point and it's true Inoue's skills can put him down in the way that he doesn't know where it's coming,
this fighter has an extraordinary speed in this division.

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

There's nothing to improve for Butler, he did a great job on his last fight and he got the belt. I think surviving is the most important thing he has to do here, going toe to toe will likely end the fight early, and Inoue will be declared as the undisputed champion.

Butler was just so lucky because he just fought a replacement boxer because Casimero can't make the weight needed, otherwise, it would be Casimero who will be fighting Inoue now for the undisputed title in the bantamweight division. It's still a win-win situation for Butler, he just needed to survive the whole fight, might be hard but he have to because the money that he'd get is already guaranteed.

[Japinat]

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.

I agree about that! Butler is nowhere near Inoue's league, I know somebody might argue with me on this especially Butler's fans but that is the truth and I definitely think that majority here would agree with me. Butler's only chance to get out from the fight safe is to get his camp throw in the towel at the end of their selected round, he might get criticized for playing safe but there is no other choice.

[harizen]

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way.

[LUCKMCFLY]

He will be tested again against Butler, expect him to perform the same
way as how he over power Donaire.

I think it's better to say that Paul Butler will be the one that will be tested instead, not Inoue.

Inoue doesn't need to be tested on this fight as he is up against Butler at all factors. The chance of Butler winning this fight is really low. The only advantage that Butler will have is if Inoue will have an injury prior to their fight. But Inoue is very disciplined with his training and never pushes his body too far that's why even a slight injury will not happen on Inoue's side during training.

I agree with you, Butler will also have options to win, but I think the only option is the surprise, that he surprises him at any moment, either trying a knockout or something, but I'm sure that for now Inoue has a very high level , and I think that he has achieved this due to his high training and really because he has great experience in the fight, this determines him as a fighter and as a person who does not lower his level despite having many victories, I am also a supporter that the undisputed winner will be Inoue, but for me there is still a long time for this fight, anything can happen and Butler can have a very exhausting training to face him, and that can make the difference.

So I don't think that Butler can go the whole 12 rounds. It will really be a punishment and maybe his team will throw in the towel because they don't want Paul to get ruin by so much punches he will get from Inoue if ever it will go to the distance and they will still lost in the judges card.

His team might not get even a chance to throw that towel because Inoue is so quick that they will not know when is the right time to throw that towel to stop the fight. The moment they will throw the towel, Butler might already kiss the floor.

No disgrace to Butler or to any fans here that we are throwing speculations like that. It's just that, that's the close thing to happen. Yes, Inoue is also a human and they have the same weight as Butler but the former's built is really something that no one in Bantamweight can match against him.

That only shows that Butler is just too far from Inoue's current prowess, we cannot be throwing some low speculations to his end if we don't know the real score between. That is just sad for Butler and I bet that even him knew and cannot deny that he can't really keep up with Inoue, even Donaire can't keep up, so it is quite safe to assume that Butler won't be fighting for long with Inoue in the same ring.

I agree about that! Butler is nowhere near Inoue's league, I know somebody might argue with me on this especially Butler's fans but that is the truth and I definitely think that majority here would agree with me. Butler's only chance to get out from the fight safe is to get his camp throw in the towel at the end of their selected round, he might get criticized for playing safe but there is no other choice.

What happens is that when a boxer fights it safe, it is something that cannot be applied all the time because that steals a lot of attention and the people and the fans do not like it, more so if they make it all a fight attached only to the technical, because if that is the case, it is better that they do not do it because it would be very boring, if Inoue fights very, very defensively and Butler too (I hope not) it will be a fight that will bring disappointment, but in my personal opinion, I think Butler leaves iur with everything towards Inoue, that's what I think, he won't leave anything up in the air, and he's not going to leave like a loser who didn't want to give everything out of fear, that's the worst thing that could happen to a bnoxer, from my point of view I consider it a great failure.

[Oilacris]

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way.

If you do know that you would gonna loss then it would be better if you do show up your best as much as you could which would be leaving good impressions and some respect
rather than ending up on surviving via running and clinching will really be giving the opposite way around.We cant really make out some conclusions but basing up on paper and
past fight performances then we could really say on whose the better one but just like been said earlier that its better to try rather than making yourself running around.
It would always generate bad words and criticisms if people doesnt really able to see on what they do want to see.

[Pamadar]

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way.

If you do know that you would gonna loss then it would be better if you do show up your best as much as you could which would be leaving good impressions and some respect
rather than ending up on surviving via running and clinching will really be giving the opposite way around.We cant really make out some conclusions but basing up on paper and
past fight performances then we could really say on whose the better one but just like been said earlier that its better to try rather than making yourself running around.
It would always generate bad words and criticisms if people doesnt really able to see on what they do want to see.

I can agree with both of you, my only point in my opinion is for him not to be knocked down,

though both points are valid, and like what OP said, it's a big fight for him, so why bother not to try his luck
and be aggressive in finding good openings.

I used to remember the first fight between Inoue and Donaire. It was a close fist fight but Inoue's capabilities
in taking solid punches is really something that goes for his advantage.

[Silberman]

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way.

I think this is the approach that Butler must follow, if he tries to run away and avoid a direct confrontation with Inoue not only he will not win the fight but his fans will be incredibly disappointed of him, instead if he decides to fight Inoue with everything that he has he may still lose but at least everyone will see on him a fighter which was not afraid of the challenge in front of him, and on his next fights he will still be able to generate some interest on him due to his performance.

[Smartprofit]

The only thing to survive in my opinion is not to dare to deal with toe-to-toe confrontations. I mean not to let
Inoue to box him and allow exchanges of punches.

If Butler will avoid that scenario, he will not win. If surviving is the only goal, what's the purpose of the fight?

He should just take the risks since this is the biggest fight of his career. Regardless of how long their distant, he should just try.

It's fine to see him losing if he tries to fight toe-to-toe with Inoue instead of just avoiding the Monster all the time just to survive. Much better for Butler fans to remember him that way.

I think this is the approach that Butler must follow, if he tries to run away and avoid a direct confrontation with Inoue not only he will not win the fight but his fans will be incredibly disappointed of him, instead if he decides to fight Inoue with everything that he has he may still lose but at least everyone will see on him a fighter which was not afraid of the challenge in front of him, and on his next fights he will still be able to generate some interest on him due to his performance.

I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.

[Jody.Drummer]

I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.

In this case we know that Butler's quality is very good but the problem is Inoue is one of those fast boxers and he can hold a punch.

Relax? he is not that typical because of the aggressiveness and speed he always displays in every fight and maybe we can see one of his last fights against Donaire a few months ago.
On the other hand Butler must be wary of Inoue's left hand in this match because he is a monster especially when his left hand punch is really strong.

[Russlenat]

I don't think Butler's skill should be underestimated.  Yes, in the upcoming battle, he is potentially very much inferior to the Japanese. 

However, Butler is an experienced and strong fighter.  If he does not lose personal courage and fights with all his strength, then he has a chance to win.  Butler is very unpredictable.  It is not for nothing that this boxer is called the Killer, who has a childish face.  He can outsmart the Japanese. 

If the Japanese boxer relaxes, then Butler can launch a surprise attack that will lead to a technical knockout.  Such an option now seems completely unbelievable, but it is possible.

In this case we know that Butler's quality is very good but the problem is Inoue is one of those fast boxers and he can hold a punch.

Relax? he is not that typical because of the aggressiveness and speed he always displays in every fight and maybe we can see one of his last fights against Donaire a few months ago.
On the other hand Butler must be wary of Inoue's left hand in this match because he is a monster especially when his left hand punch is really strong.

I'm pretty sure that Butler is already aware on how good Inoue is, so for sure, he is already preparing how to be effective in the fight night. Inoue is the best, but he has a weakness as well, and that's what Butler's camp has to find out so they can play the right strategy.