[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

[carlisle1]

Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.  

A true martial arts fanatic.  He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art.  I really like his fighting style.  He throws most of his punches with his front hand.  The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer.  He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents.  But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).  

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

Yes, after that experienced against the Pinoy flash he evolves a lot and continue in enhancing his skills,
the IQ that he has makes him more unpredictable.

He can adjust while fighting something that his opponent will be hard to box him, with his strong combination and the perfect
timing of his speed Butler's chance of winning is too slim.

We are just waiting for the date and for Inoue to complete his chase in holding all the belts in his division.

[Hypnosis00]

Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.  

A true martial arts fanatic.  He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art.  I really like his fighting style.  He throws most of his punches with his front hand.  The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer.  He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents.  But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).  

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

Yes, after that experienced against the Pinoy flash he evolves a lot and continue in enhancing his skills,
the IQ that he has makes him more unpredictable.

He can adjust while fighting something that his opponent will be hard to box him, with his strong combination and the perfect
timing of his speed Butler's chance of winning is too slim.

We are just waiting for the date and for Inoue to complete his chase in holding all the belts in his division.

That made him better, he is more precise in the rematch and they really made a good game plan to hurt  Donaire. Inoue is faster and smarter than his opponent, so he will likely dominate the fight and I'm not seeing Butler would have a big upset win here.

[Japinat]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

[stadus]

Naoya Inoue is known as Japan's Bruce Lee for a reason.  

A true martial arts fanatic.  He is crazy about boxing and knows all the intricacies of this martial art.  I really like his fighting style.  He throws most of his punches with his front hand.  The fist moves along a minimal trajectory, and the enemy is forced to constantly be on the defensive.

Naoya is an absolutely unpredictable boxer.  He constantly changes his fighting style, and this terrifies all his opponents.  But they do not have time to really get scared (because they get a terrible blow to the body and they no longer have time to feel fear).  

It will be very difficult for Butler to box with such a strong opponent.

Not just in Japan alone, he is also the Bruce Lee in the boxing industry with monstrous strength that by far, only Nonito Donaire have managed to put him on edge but then he keeps on evolving as time goes by and have managed to master both offense and defense. So, that makes him more unpredictable aside from constant changes in his fighting style, and that scares his future foes because they will need to make an expensive mistake just to figure out Inoue's style and weakness. By that time that they know, Inoue already defeated them, that's how terrifying this monster is. I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

Yes, after that experienced against the Pinoy flash he evolves a lot and continue in enhancing his skills,
the IQ that he has makes him more unpredictable.

He can adjust while fighting something that his opponent will be hard to box him, with his strong combination and the perfect
timing of his speed Butler's chance of winning is too slim.

We are just waiting for the date and for Inoue to complete his chase in holding all the belts in his division.

Inoue made Donaire as a motivation to mature and develop his skills to become much stronger in his next fights because the aging Donaire managed to push him in corner, so he thinks that he should improve because he cannot cement his legacy if he'll be predictable.

Now, as we saw him in his recent fight, he's already different and much agile than he is before. Even the Flash cannot predict nor read his movements and only knew the attack the moment he already suffered it. Anyway, the fight is nearing its schedule, I'm just excited on Inoue's post-fight statements regarding his move.

[Yaunfitda]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

And maybe, when the hype is still there, he will allow Inoue to face either champion.

But then again, boxing politics might be the biggest stumbling back again.

[Pamadar]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

And maybe, when the hype is still there, he will allow Inoue to face either champion.

But then again, boxing politics might be the biggest stumbling back again.

Arum will continue to play with his cards, as long as Inoue is willing to sign his contract and Inoue is contented with the amount
he receiving from Arum, the business will continue.

They will continue to pick fights that will bring Inoue to more hype. It's Arum's job
to make sure that the money will continue to flow. Nothing new, it's a business and
he will keep his advantages to get more money out.

[Natalim]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

And maybe, when the hype is still there, he will allow Inoue to face either champion.

But then again, boxing politics might be the biggest stumbling back again.

Arum will continue to play with his cards, as long as Inoue is willing to sign his contract and Inoue is contented with the amount
he receiving from Arum, the business will continue.

They will continue to pick fights that will bring Inoue to more hype. It's Arum's job
to make sure that the money will continue to flow. Nothing new, it's a business and
he will keep his advantages to get more money out.

Inoue sees the opportunity to be more popular under top rank, so he decided to join him, however, if he will be more ambitious and he will become more popular already, then most likely he will also not gonna resign just like the boxers that left the camp of Bob Arum. For now, it's still too early, Inoue is still enjoying his stay with the top rank, so let's not talk about it yet.

[mirakal]

I bet the champions in the super-bantam are already worried because they are about to face a tough challenger.

I believed that's not the case but the other way around. The current Super bantamweight title holders, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon c already show interest in fighting Naoya Inoue once he moved up in that division. Instead of being worried, these champions might be more hungry to beat Inoue as this challenger has a big and heavy status. Defeating Inoue will make these champions become more popular as they defeat the monster of Bantamweight even how dominant it is coming from a Bantamweight.

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

You got some point but I still think that these current fighters in the super-bantamweight are just hiding behind the word interest and excited to face Inoue to divert the people's attention. But I won't be biting that diversion because there's that feeling deep inside that they are somehow worried because there's a heavy challenger that will face them soon.

True, Bob Arum will see to it that Inoue will be fully prepared before he lets him face the lions in this division. It's better to be safe than sorry because Inoue is a good cow to milk, Bob cannot afford to lose him.

[harizen]

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

We should step aside politics here if Inoue won't face the super bantamweight champions right away once he moved up. It's just makes sense to not expect Inoue goes directly against the champions because after all, he is new in that division even though it's just a small leap. Testing the waters is just a usual way for someone who just moved up so don't blame Arum if that will happen right away.

Inoue just has to continue his winnings and soon, he will now finally have a chance to face those champions.

[goinmerry]

Arum will continue to play with his cards, as long as Inoue is willing to sign his contract and Inoue is contented with the amount
he receiving from Arum, the business will continue.

Let's face the fact that while Arum is playing his cards, boxers under him are getting a big break while enjoying a high contract.

Arum has the ability to form a big fight that's why to those people who hate him, just take it or leave it.

After all, it's not that he always makes sure that his cash cow is safe. There are lots of popular boxers under him wherein able to form big fights. Sometimes annoying to others but let's face the reality that boxing can't just be pure legacy.

[Shamm]

Arum will continue to play with his cards, as long as Inoue is willing to sign his contract and Inoue is contented with the amount
he receiving from Arum, the business will continue.

Let's face the fact that while Arum is playing his cards, boxers under him are getting a big break while enjoying a high contract.

Arum has the ability to form a big fight that's why to those people who hate him, just take it or leave it.

After all, it's not that he always makes sure that his cash cow is safe. There are lots of popular boxers under him wherein able to form big fights. Sometimes annoying to others but let's face the reality that boxing can't just be pure legacy.

There are still many people around the world did not know yet about this kind of game by Arum and some boxers so for sure what ever arum did to his boxers then a lot of people will be happy and want to watch in.  But for me it's so unfair because there are many boxer out there who are strong enough to fight against Arum's boxer but what we said that arums plays his own cards so he has a decisions in every game or fight.

[chaser15]

But for me it's so unfair because there are many boxer out there who are strong enough to fight against Arum's boxer but what we said that arums plays his own cards so he has a decisions in every game or fight.

Before organizing a fight, it's not just the works of the promoter. It also includes the boxing organization. Lots of things to work on before a successful deal. These promoters are also spending big money to organize a fight therefore, they really need to make sure that both boxers have that big hype.

It's not just boxers under Bob Arum who are gaining the benefits but also the opponent.

Quite a good number of boxers already experienced being in the top stage because of Top Rank Promotions.

[mirakal]

But for me it's so unfair because there are many boxer out there who are strong enough to fight against Arum's boxer but what we said that arums plays his own cards so he has a decisions in every game or fight.

Before organizing a fight, it's not just the works of the promoter. It also includes the boxing organization. Lots of things to work on before a successful deal. These promoters are also spending big money to organize a fight therefore, they really need to make sure that both boxers have that big hype.

It's not just boxers under Bob Arum who are gaining the benefits but also the opponent.

Quite a good number of boxers already experienced being in the top stage because of Top Rank Promotions.

True! There's a lot of things that a promoter will consider before they make a fight and some of that are the things that we might not know, they are there for a reason and not just acting as a manager to gain money for doing nothing. And certainly not all strong boxer or who would like to fight them will be given a chance, that's not how it works.

Even Bob Arum himself started from scratch and had some struggles before he managed to work his way up to where he is now. That's why there's a lot of boxers who wanted to be under him because Bob Arum can put you in the map with just few fights, and of course, if you have the skills as well.

[Shamm]

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

We should step aside politics here if Inoue won't face the super bantamweight champions right away once he moved up. It's just makes sense to not expect Inoue goes directly against the champions because after all, he is new in that division even though it's just a small leap. Testing the waters is just a usual way for someone who just moved up so don't blame Arum if that will happen right away.

Inoue just has to continue his winnings and soon, he will now finally have a chance to face those champions.

Inoue has a chance to face other champion as we all know his skills and knowledge about in boxing game and also his speed and strategies is recommendable to fight against another champion he is unstoppable right now I believe on inoue to hold another title for sure he can win and hold it  and for sure bob arum will give him a good fight and if he win then another title to b hold just in my opinion.

[LUCKMCFLY]

The odds were already available early but if only the ML odds are out for now, it's not attractive for bettors as no one would bet on Inoue with an odds of 1.02, that was insane, although he will likely win, but would your risk with that 1.02? I guess we should wait for more alternatives.

I think betting option of exact round the fight will end is the most worth to bet in this match. I don't expect any good odds about result e.g. via decision or knock out, Inoue via KO will be favorite and the odds should be low as 1.15x while decision might around 1.70x. Maybe if we bet about 1-3 rounds will end the odds will be at least @2.00x which I think it's fine to risk my money with such odds.

Well here the probabilities speak for themselves, it is obvious that here the advantage is only the one we all know, our Japanese Inoue, and the bets will be very much in his favor, so the profits for the bettors will not be much unless they are quite high, but be careful, we are assuming almost 100% that Inoue will win, we are not considering in the least that Butler can give a surprise, in part I know that it is very difficult for Butler to give a surprise, but that is and must be contemplate the possibility, I have always thought that we can give faith that we will do something and that is to be sure, and in a boxing fight (and in soccer cases) one should not trust so much.

But for me it's so unfair because there are many boxer out there who are strong enough to fight against Arum's boxer but what we said that arums plays his own cards so he has a decisions in every game or fight.

Before organizing a fight, it's not just the works of the promoter. It also includes the boxing organization. Lots of things to work on before a successful deal. These promoters are also spending big money to organize a fight therefore, they really need to make sure that both boxers have that big hype.

It's not just boxers under Bob Arum who are gaining the benefits but also the opponent.

Quite a good number of boxers already experienced being in the top stage because of Top Rank Promotions.

In that you are right, what happens is that many things happen in boxing that people ignore, also the most important thing to highlight here is that the organizers always take something into account, what can be spent and the return on investment, It is something that they do not say but that is present, some of the fights that do not happen many times are for the same organization, like what perhaps happened between Crawford and Spence, or because of what Bivol does not want with Canelo, they are things that they have It has to do a lot with the organization and the money, the demand and above all what will be spent and if it is actually profitable or not, the boxing industry takes all this into account.

[Sanitough]

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

We should step aside politics here if Inoue won't face the super bantamweight champions right away once he moved up. It's just makes sense to not expect Inoue goes directly against the champions because after all, he is new in that division even though it's just a small leap. Testing the waters is just a usual way for someone who just moved up so don't blame Arum if that will happen right away.

Inoue just has to continue his winnings and soon, he will now finally have a chance to face those champions.

Inoue has a chance to face other champion as we all know his skills and knowledge about in boxing game and also his speed and strategies is recommendable to fight against another champion he is unstoppable right now I believe on inoue to hold another title for sure he can win and hold it  and for sure bob arum will give him a good fight and if he win then another title to b hold just in my opinion.

There has been no doubt about Inoue's prowess, speed and reaction towards his opponent, the monster is expected to evolve with the experience he gains from every fight he had. Even if you ask the so-called experts or even Bob Arum, they will all say the same thing that the current Inoue is in-fact already battle ready for the champions in the super-bantam. But Bob Arum has a job to do and that is to keep Inoue much safer, Inoue should be first get used in the weight as there is also no need for him to be in a hurry.

[Jating]

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

We should step aside politics here if Inoue won't face the super bantamweight champions right away once he moved up. It's just makes sense to not expect Inoue goes directly against the champions because after all, he is new in that division even though it's just a small leap. Testing the waters is just a usual way for someone who just moved up so don't blame Arum if that will happen right away.

Inoue just has to continue his winnings and soon, he will now finally have a chance to face those champions.

Inoue has a chance to face other champion as we all know his skills and knowledge about in boxing game and also his speed and strategies is recommendable to fight against another champion he is unstoppable right now I believe on inoue to hold another title for sure he can win and hold it  and for sure bob arum will give him a good fight and if he win then another title to b hold just in my opinion.

There has been no doubt about Inoue's prowess, speed and reaction towards his opponent, the monster is expected to evolve with the experience he gains from every fight he had. Even if you ask the so-called experts or even Bob Arum, they will all say the same thing that the current Inoue is in-fact already battle ready for the champions in the super-bantam. But Bob Arum has a job to do and that is to keep Inoue much safer, Inoue should be first get used in the weight as there is also no need for him to be in a hurry.

Just finished watching Inoue vs Moloney fight, Inoue is really something, his hands are that fast and has power and the timing as well. Although Moloney did hit him with some good shots, still Inoue was not affected. So not sure how long will Butler last if he taste Inoue's power.

I'm thinking that this fight will not really last, initially I thought that Butler is tough and might stay at least 6 rounds.

But now I have doubts about it, maybe under 7.5 rounds.

[Japinat]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

And maybe, when the hype is still there, he will allow Inoue to face either champion.

But then again, boxing politics might be the biggest stumbling back again.

If the current champion is weak then it is expected that the title contenders will be chasing him, but that is not the case this time because just like what you have said, Fulton is not weak and neither Murodjon as well. The hype will always be there I bet until such time that Inoue will be freed to face either one of the two champions in the super bantam.

For now, Inoue might face one of the top 5 contenders in the said division. I'm not gonna assume that Arum will be picking such easy foes for Inoue because that won't get Inoue battle ready and get used to the weight. So, again, it might be on of the top 5 contenders.

[Pamadar]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

And maybe, when the hype is still there, he will allow Inoue to face either champion.

But then again, boxing politics might be the biggest stumbling back again.

If the current champion is weak then it is expected that the title contenders will be chasing him, but that is not the case this time because just like what you have said, Fulton is not weak and neither Murodjon as well. The hype will always be there I bet until such time that Inoue will be freed to face either one of the two champions in the super bantam.

For now, Inoue might face one of the top 5 contenders in the said division. I'm not gonna assume that Arum will be picking such easy foes for Inoue because that won't get Inoue battle ready and get used to the weight. So, again, it might be on of the top 5 contenders.

If the chased is for both the title and the money Arum may consider challenging the current title holder, but it will be a risk
to his milking cow, as both champs are ready and willing to take that challenge.

Possible that Arum will go that way, taking top 5 contender first to check if Inoue
is ready to move up in this division before making his way for the title fight, from
that he may see if he is ready or if he still needed time to adopt on this new division.

[Kasabus]

However, it seems Bob Arum won't allow his Inoue to face the champions right away and for me, that would also be a nice move once he moved up. There's no need to rush for a title match right away although I really badly want to see Inoue facing Fulton or Akhmadaliev in a title match someday.

That's not really far from happening once Inoue climbs the next weight class and that might be the closest case because Bob Arum is known to take a less risky path for his fighters while milking them at the same time for challenging a much easier opponent. I assume that Bob Arum will let Inoue to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev after 2 non-title fights, with win of course.

Arum is a genius, so yeah for sure he won't let that happen unless the champion is weak, but Fulton is no pushover. So I'm expecting Arum to just pick someone that can easily be beaten by Inoue by knockout or by another impressive win.

And maybe, when the hype is still there, he will allow Inoue to face either champion.

But then again, boxing politics might be the biggest stumbling back again.

If the current champion is weak then it is expected that the title contenders will be chasing him, but that is not the case this time because just like what you have said, Fulton is not weak and neither Murodjon as well. The hype will always be there I bet until such time that Inoue will be freed to face either one of the two champions in the super bantam.

For now, Inoue might face one of the top 5 contenders in the said division. I'm not gonna assume that Arum will be picking such easy foes for Inoue because that won't get Inoue battle ready and get used to the weight. So, again, it might be on of the top 5 contenders.

If the chased is for both the title and the money Arum may consider challenging the current title holder, but it will be a risk
to his milking cow, as both champs are ready and willing to take that challenge.

Possible that Arum will go that way, taking top 5 contender first to check if Inoue
is ready to move up in this division before making his way for the title fight, from
that he may see if he is ready or if he still needed time to adopt on this new division.

Money will always follow as long as Inoue can maintain his record and strength to keep the people on following him, for now, it's best for Inoue to slow down first because that is more safer. Arum knows what to do, he cannot let Inoue go directly to the champions even if the money is good because it is risky, what will that money do if in case Inoue will be defeated as surely his worth will decrease after that.

I agree that fighting the nearest title contenders is a good idea so that Inoue can get used to the division and to see if he's ready or not, not an easy fight before the champions because the challengers are also tough but he can do it.