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Author Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13  (Read 16006 times)
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December 10, 2022, 10:27:12 AM
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So the other betting option are comes up.



I'm surprised with the winning method odds for Inoue via KO since it's really small, there's no way anyone want to bet that. The winner & round range seems to be more interesting, based on the odds many people expect Inoue will beat Butler in the early round since the odds is only 1.48x. It's worth if you want to bet with huge amount, but I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6 because I think Butler will have a preparation to survive against Inoue, although it won't last long.

The odds is emphasizing that Inoue can really win via KO, just look at the odds of Inoue winning by a decision, it is 11x the bet.  Paul Butler winning by decision is tempting  Grin. 60x our wagering amount.  So betting with the same amount on Butler by decision and Inoue by decision, which one win will cover both bets with profit.  I think if Butler's strategy works out, it is good to bet on a decision for both boxers.  since Butler's main aim is not to KO Inoue but to last the entire fight and win via decision.

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December 10, 2022, 06:30:54 PM
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Trashtalks are like a natural reaction for a fighter who acts tough but are really afraid of their opponent, as they are trying to get into their opponents head, hoping he'd get distracted and lost his concentration.

Not true at some point. It depends on who the boxer is involved.

We should know and be able to generalize boxers who just trash talk without a sense.

I did a quick search on Google search but found nothing related to trash talk on this fight. Whether from Butler or Inoue, I can't see news or article that they did some trash talk. What I see is the interview of Ring TV on Butler and I don't even consider that as trash talk.

Maybe I miss that trash talk? Can anyone lead me to a link about that?



Yes, I certainly won't agree that boxers will resort on trash talk if they already know the likely of the fight or if they will be have a fight that is much more stronger and agile than he is. Boxers already know that there's always that person who will be above them but they aren't discouraged by that fact and still chose to fight to know what will be the outcome. As for Butler, he likely know what will be the result but the fact that he is silent all this time means that he is indeed preparing for this upcoming fight.

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December 10, 2022, 11:59:35 PM
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So the other betting option are comes up.



I'm surprised with the winning method odds for Inoue via KO since it's really small, there's no way anyone want to bet that. The winner & round range seems to be more interesting, based on the odds many people expect Inoue will beat Butler in the early round since the odds is only 1.48x. It's worth if you want to bet with huge amount, but I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6 because I think Butler will have a preparation to survive against Inoue, although it won't last long.

Wonderful options but what do others mostly take here?

As expected, Inoue winning in rounds 1 to 3 does have low odds because the chances that Inoue will really win in those rounds are high.

Maybe a good one betting on Inoue winning Round 4-6.

No way this fight will reach in Decision in Favor of Inoue.
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December 11, 2022, 09:15:05 AM
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The odds is emphasizing that Inoue can really win via KO, just look at the odds of Inoue winning by a decision, it is 11x the bet.  Paul Butler winning by decision is tempting  Grin. 60x our wagering amount.  So betting with the same amount on Butler by decision and Inoue by decision, which one win will cover both bets with profit.  I think if Butler's strategy works out, it is good to bet on a decision for both boxers.  since Butler's main aim is not to KO Inoue but to last the entire fight and win via decision.
As expected the odds for Inoue to win via knockout is very low. I wonder if anyone will bet on this considering the profit you would possibly get. It might only work if you bet huge like whales do. On the other side, if Butler miraculously won by decision that's a good deal for fans who counted on him. But that's really risky and totally gambling. Anyway, only 2 days left before this fight I am more interested on what preparation Butler did to survive the rounds.

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December 11, 2022, 12:04:20 PM
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My first prediction was Inoue to win 1-3 rounds, but looking at the odds now, it disappointed me a bit. So now I'm switching to Inoue to win via decision as I believe Butler will not go toe to toe against Inoue knowing how dangerous his punches are, at 11.00, it's very interesting and I'm just hoping that Inoue will also not so aggressive in this fight.

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December 11, 2022, 08:19:24 PM
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So the other betting option are comes up.



I'm surprised with the winning method odds for Inoue via KO since it's really small, there's no way anyone want to bet that. The winner & round range seems to be more interesting, based on the odds many people expect Inoue will beat Butler in the early round since the odds is only 1.48x. It's worth if you want to bet with huge amount, but I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6 because I think Butler will have a preparation to survive against Inoue, although it won't last long.

Wonderful options but what do others mostly take here?

As expected, Inoue winning in rounds 1 to 3 does have low odds because the chances that Inoue will really win in those rounds are high.

Maybe a good one betting on Inoue winning Round 4-6.

No way this fight will reach in Decision in Favor of Inoue.

Seeing the odds listed by the sports bookies reminds me again what's the real score between these boxers and Butler's chance is very slim towards the Japanese monster, even Inoue to win by a decision is almost impossible to think and seeing Butler to win by a decision is really mouthwatering but again, impossible.

My take about this is Naoya Inoue to win 4-6 round, odds might not that big that I really do think that it is the nearest scenario of their fight tomorrow. The 7-9 to might not be possible because it's already too far and Inoue already figure out a way before those rounds come by.

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December 11, 2022, 08:39:32 PM
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My first prediction was Inoue to win 1-3 rounds, but looking at the odds now, it disappointed me a bit. So now I'm switching to Inoue to win via decision as I believe Butler will not go toe to toe against Inoue knowing how dangerous his punches are, at 11.00, it's very interesting and I'm just hoping that Inoue will also not so aggressive in this fight.

For Butler, it's a safe side to avoid a KO, not doing any engagement or avoid getting a toe-to-toe confrontation with Inoue is the best
option to avoid suffering a KO loss.

But I'm not sure if Inoue will be lite here, knowing his characteristic, he always wanted to impress his fans and the chance not to KO
Butler is slim unless Butler will manage to keep running.

If Butler will have that enough energy to try to throw jabs, then runaway right away.
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December 11, 2022, 10:55:28 PM
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So the other betting option are comes up.



I'm surprised with the winning method odds for Inoue via KO since it's really small, there's no way anyone want to bet that. The winner & round range seems to be more interesting, based on the odds many people expect Inoue will beat Butler in the early round since the odds is only 1.48x. It's worth if you want to bet with huge amount, but I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6 because I think Butler will have a preparation to survive against Inoue, although it won't last long.

Wonderful options but what do others mostly take here?

As expected, Inoue winning in rounds 1 to 3 does have low odds because the chances that Inoue will really win in those rounds are high.

Maybe a good one betting on Inoue winning Round 4-6.

No way this fight will reach in Decision in Favor of Inoue.

Yes, our options will be,

(a) rounds 1-3
(b) rounds 4-6

We all know how powerful Inoue is as we have seen how he destroyed Nonito. And if Butler will try to muscle and go fight inside with Inoue it will be his doom.

So I'm speculating that Inoue could either score a KO win in less than 6 rounds against Butler. And the odds for this two are very attractive, we just have to make the right choice.

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For Butler, it's a safe side to avoid a KO, not doing any engagement or avoid getting a toe-to-toe confrontation with Inoue is the best
option to avoid suffering a KO loss.

If the goal is just to survive being Knock Out by Inoue, for let's say losing is already accepted, Butler can consider that option and no other options are available.

But that's not making sense to think that he will have a purpose like that as this fight is probably the best highlight of Butler's entire career. He should do everything and risks everything. Show Inoue what he really got.

Therefore, I'm sure Paul Butler will go toe-to-toe even if it's within Inoue's comfort zone since not doing any engagement throughout the entire match won't give him more points to at least take a shot at winning on Decision.

Aside from that, I don't know if running or trying to avoid the close confrontation with Inoue will be properly executed as a strategy since in terms of speed and quickness, Inoue has the upper hand on those and how can even Butler be able to make distance from the monster. There would be no choice for him but to clash head-to-head and trust his own strength.

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December 11, 2022, 11:46:44 PM
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Yes, our options will be,

(a) rounds 1-3
(b) rounds 4-6

We all know how powerful Inoue is as we have seen how he destroyed Nonito. And if Butler will try to muscle and go fight inside with Inoue it will be his doom.

So I'm speculating that Inoue could either score a KO win in less than 6 rounds against Butler. And the odds for this two are very attractive, we just have to make the right choice.

The odds for Inoue winning in Rounds 4-6 do have good odds. @3.65 can be considered placing a bet.

Butler has to do everything to survive Rounds 1-3 but knowing Inoue's much more deadly punches when his stamina is still at FULL, there's a thing in my mind that Butler might not last even at Round 2. Donaire is much more powerful and versatile compare to Butler but he only lasted Round 1 on their second match.

It's hard to decide what betting option is a good choice as this fight is a distant gap fight where it's even the first time for me to see a unification match where the other champion does have odds of around @14 to win.
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December 11, 2022, 11:57:08 PM
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For Butler, it's a safe side to avoid a KO, not doing any engagement or avoid getting a toe-to-toe confrontation with Inoue is the best
option to avoid suffering a KO loss.

If the goal is just to survive being Knock Out by Inoue, for let's say losing is already accepted, Butler can consider that option and no other options are available.

But that's not making sense to think that he will have a purpose like that as this fight is probably the best highlight of Butler's entire career. He should do everything and risks everything. Show Inoue what he really got.

Therefore, I'm sure Paul Butler will go toe-to-toe even if it's within Inoue's comfort zone since not doing any engagement throughout the entire match won't give him more points to at least take a shot at winning on Decision.

Aside from that, I don't know if running or trying to avoid the close confrontation with Inoue will be properly executed as a strategy since in terms of speed and quickness, Inoue has the upper hand on those and how can even Butler be able to make distance from the monster. There would be no choice for him but to clash head-to-head and trust his own strength.

I think Butler's plan is to outbox Inoue while trying to avoid his knock out punches.  If Butler is able to withstand the punches of Inoue or be able to learn to dodge and block to lessen the impact of the punches, there is a chance for Butler to survive till last round.  But the question for Butler would be, can he outbox Inoue?
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December 12, 2022, 10:05:13 AM
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It looks like Inoue is possibly about to move up in weight division after this unification fight with Butler.  Naoya Inoue failed to make to qualify in his first attempt in their wiegh-in having 118.1 lbs, a 0.1 lbs over the weight limit while Paul Butler made it easily with 118.0 lbs.  After some minutes, Naoya Inoue qualified in the second attempt weighing 117.75 lbs.

This is an indication that Inoue is somehow having a hard time maintaining his weight in 118 division and possibly move up after he conquered all the belt in his current Division.  If ever he moved up, the hope of Casimero-Inoue clashing will become highly possible again.

For a meantime, I think the extra effort of Inoue in meeting the required weight will not affect his fight against Butler since he easily meet it after some grinding.  



Source:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-makes-weight-on-2nd-attempt-ahead-undisputed-clash-with-paul-butler--171106
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December 12, 2022, 10:48:02 AM
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It looks like Inoue is possibly about to move up in weight division after this unification fight with Butler.  Naoya Inoue failed to make to qualify in his first attempt in their wiegh-in having 118.1 lbs, a 0.1 lbs over the weight limit while Paul Butler made it easily with 118.0 lbs.  After some minutes, Naoya Inoue qualified in the second attempt weighing 117.75 lbs.

This is an indication that Inoue is somehow having a hard time maintaining his weight in 118 division and possibly move up after he conquered all the belt in his current Division.  If ever he moved up, the hope of Casimero-Inoue clashing will become highly possible again.

For a meantime, I think the extra effort of Inoue in meeting the required weight will not affect his fight against Butler since he easily meet it after some grinding.  



Source:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-makes-weight-on-2nd-attempt-ahead-undisputed-clash-with-paul-butler--171106

Good news, that way they'll be able to meet Casimero and will finally witness the most awaited fight. It's good that he was able to meet the required weight, he can't loss that opportunity because, after this fight, he will be the unified champion, but it will be quick because of his plan of moving up.

I'm excited to see this fight, tomorrow is the day, so hopefully it's entertaining as what we have expected it to be.

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December 12, 2022, 10:52:54 AM
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It looks like Inoue is possibly about to move up in weight division after this unification fight with Butler.  Naoya Inoue failed to make to qualify in his first attempt in their wiegh-in having 118.1 lbs, a 0.1 lbs over the weight limit while Paul Butler made it easily with 118.0 lbs.  After some minutes, Naoya Inoue qualified in the second attempt weighing 117.75 lbs.

This is an indication that Inoue is somehow having a hard time maintaining his weight in 118 division and possibly move up after he conquered all the belt in his current Division.  If ever he moved up, the hope of Casimero-Inoue clashing will become highly possible again.

For a meantime, I think the extra effort of Inoue in meeting the required weight will not affect his fight against Butler since he easily meet it after some grinding.  



Source:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-makes-weight-on-2nd-attempt-ahead-undisputed-clash-with-paul-butler--171106

He already says that this is going to be his last fight in 118 lbs, and I do agree that this is a sign that he really struggles to get to this fighting weight. And so after he unifies all the belt, he will have to move to 122 lbs. And months ago, there are interviews of him describing the champion specially Stephen Fulton, so that will be his target. Not sure though is Fulton will remain at 122 lbs and wait for Inoue as he also has problems maintaining the super bantamweight. It's good that the made it after second attempt, otherwise there could be issues later. So yeah, tomorrow will be the biggest fight and let's see how it goes.

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December 12, 2022, 11:11:20 AM
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Good news, that way they'll be able to meet Casimero and will finally witness the most awaited fight. It's good that he was able to meet the required weight, he can't loss that opportunity because, after this fight, he will be the unified champion, but it will be quick because of his plan of moving up.

I'm excited to see this fight, tomorrow is the day, so hopefully it's entertaining as what we have expected it to be.

It's an exciting fight indeed, nobody in this forum has given Butler a chance to win and the bookies as well, seldom i have seen odds of @1.01 for the favorites which is what they give to Inoue but there are other options, and one of them is below.



^^ the +2.5 rounds is very attractive for me as i believe on Butler's running and hugging skill which could make this fight last at least five rounds.
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December 12, 2022, 12:55:24 PM
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It looks like Inoue is possibly about to move up in weight division after this unification fight with Butler.  Naoya Inoue failed to make to qualify in his first attempt in their wiegh-in having 118.1 lbs, a 0.1 lbs over the weight limit while Paul Butler made it easily with 118.0 lbs.  After some minutes, Naoya Inoue qualified in the second attempt weighing 117.75 lbs.

This is an indication that Inoue is somehow having a hard time maintaining his weight in 118 division and possibly move up after he conquered all the belt in his current Division.  If ever he moved up, the hope of Casimero-Inoue clashing will become highly possible again.

For a meantime, I think the extra effort of Inoue in meeting the required weight will not affect his fight against Butler since he easily meet it after some grinding.  



Source:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-makes-weight-on-2nd-attempt-ahead-undisputed-clash-with-paul-butler--171106

He already says that this is going to be his last fight in 118 lbs, and I do agree that this is a sign that he really struggles to get to this fighting weight. And so after he unifies all the belt, he will have to move to 122 lbs. And months ago, there are interviews of him describing the champion specially Stephen Fulton, so that will be his target. Not sure though is Fulton will remain at 122 lbs and wait for Inoue as he also has problems maintaining the super bantamweight. It's good that the made it after second attempt, otherwise there could be issues later. So yeah, tomorrow will be the biggest fight and let's see how it goes.

Inoue will conquer territories and he made the right choice to move up after this fight I hope there will be no impact on his performance because of the weight cut I remember Pacquiao losing via knockout because of the weight cut he was totally drained but his team made the bad decision to go on with the fight if some of you are not aware of it check this video of Pacquiao's second loss because of the weight cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHj2P04ElEo

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December 12, 2022, 05:59:07 PM
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Good news, that way they'll be able to meet Casimero and will finally witness the most awaited fight. It's good that he was able to meet the required weight, he can't loss that opportunity because, after this fight, he will be the unified champion, but it will be quick because of his plan of moving up.

I'm excited to see this fight, tomorrow is the day, so hopefully it's entertaining as what we have expected it to be.

It's an exciting fight indeed, nobody in this forum has given Butler a chance to win and the bookies as well, seldom i have seen odds of @1.01 for the favorites which is what they give to Inoue but there are other options, and one of them is below.



^^ the +2.5 rounds is very attractive for me as i believe on Butler's running and hugging skill which could make this fight last at least five rounds.

I really doubt if Paul Butler would win this fight, Naoya Inoue is a beast with the Nonito Donaire win, he got that another notch faster than Donaire the flash itself,

but forget about that I will put my quick picks for this event highlighted in green are my picks,

Naoya Inoue VS Paul Butler

Andy Hiraoka VS Min Ho Jung

Yoshiki Takei VS Bruno Tarimo

Peter McGrail VS Hironori Miyake

Takuma Inoue VS Jake Bornea

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December 12, 2022, 10:00:54 PM
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Have not seen anyone here posted their bets on this fight, let me be the first hehe.

As i have said, i believe that Butler will be fighting this fight afraid, i mean that what will be on his mind tonight is not to win but to survive the onslaught so he will run and hug most of the time to make this match a little longer than three rounds but i also don't think that he is going to survive the full twelve rounds.

No offense to Butler but he should not be the one to be on this fight but Casimero.

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It looks like Inoue is possibly about to move up in weight division after this unification fight with Butler.  Naoya Inoue failed to make to qualify in his first attempt in their wiegh-in having 118.1 lbs, a 0.1 lbs over the weight limit while Paul Butler made it easily with 118.0 lbs.  After some minutes, Naoya Inoue qualified in the second attempt weighing 117.75 lbs.

This is an indication that Inoue is somehow having a hard time maintaining his weight in 118 division and possibly move up after he conquered all the belt in his current Division.  If ever he moved up, the hope of Casimero-Inoue clashing will become highly possible again.

Moving-up weight is really part of Inoue's plan regardless of whether he struggles to meet that catchweight required in this bantamweight unification fight. Obviously, there's no reason to stay in the bantamweight division if Inoue won this match as nothing left to do. Testing his strength in the super bantamweight will be his next target and there are good boxers there that can be a good match on Inoue like those champions, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

Nothing really excited to see Inoue clashing with Casimero but if that happened, why not.

Casimero just needs to make sure to establish his rank and try to win all his next fights. A good win for him against Akaho just recently is a good start for him.

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Inoue is expected to win all the titles in the Bantamweight and move up he is having issues with his weight, but Inoue will conquer a lot of weight divisions, like Manny Pacquiao, he will be multi-titled I don't think he will face big challenges in the featherweight division, Inoue career is just going to the most exciting part because there are great names in the upper weight division and this is where the big challenges are. 
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