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December 05, 2025, 12:44:54 PM
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Are you enjoying your NVIDIA stock ? Cheesy

According to my quick research, there is an interesting fact. NVIDIA price on September 1, 2022 was $17 and is currently priced at $179 per share. That means it has increased more than 10 times in the last 3 years and those who invested in it are making huge profits. Meanwhile, Bitcoin is trading at $20k in September 2022 and compared to now, Bitcoin has increased about 5 times. If we compare the two, NVIDIA gives better returns than bitcoin. LOL, this is crazy. Cheesy
That's an unfair comparison though because the massive pump of NVIDIA shares is mostly because of FOMO buyers and the massive demand that was created due to AI mania which funnily enough started with ChatGPT launch 2 months after OP started this topic Cheesy

Meanwhile bitcoin has had no major "hype" moment that could attract larger number of investors coming in and FOMO buying. The price rise we've had in the same period is just the normal adoption as ever.

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Very unexpected, for me at least that NVIDIA has vastly greater returns than Bitcoin over the last few years. We can only hope that Bitcoin does better in the future because 2025 has been a massive disappointment.

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December 06, 2025, 12:42:00 PM
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Very unexpected, for me at least that NVIDIA has vastly greater returns than Bitcoin over the last few years. We can only hope that Bitcoin does better in the future because 2025 has been a massive disappointment.
Why was 2025 a massive disappointment? We went from basically 80K to 126K, which is more than 50% growth and 50% is a very good ROI in one year, assuming you bought Bitcoin when it was at its lowest in 2025. True rise began in 2023, from 17K USD and went as high as 126K USD.
Bitcoin can't bring massive growth on the table because its market cap is already very high, it's $1.79 trillion dollars. It can't do better in the future. Just to get 100% ROI from this point, the market cap has to become basically 4 trillion dollars. That's a lot of money and that can't be collected overnight. Bitcoin was giving us amazing results because it was still relatively unknown and the market cap was just a few million dollars. Tens and hundreds of millions of dollars flew into Bitcoin very quickly and it brought amazing ROIs. It can't be done in the current situation. Only altcoins, with huge potentials can bring amazing numbers.

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December 06, 2025, 07:30:33 PM
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I suspect NVIDIA is in a lot of trouble for a couple of reasons:

1. Their graphics cards are not selling anymore for a whole bunch of reasons such as:
1.1 The global corona pandemic/vaccines killing gamers.
1.2 Transient-corona-gamers dumping their graphics cards and going back to work.
1.3 The cryptocoin market collapsed, possibly caused by countries banning/blocking/outlawing bitcoin.
1.4 Power supplies not capable of handling NVIDIA's latest and graphics RTX 3080, RTX 3090 and RTX 4080, RTX 4090.
1.5 The Ukraine vs Russia war rising energy prices, bad for miners, miners shutting down.
1.6 The global inflation making everything expensive no more money for a graphics card !
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1.1: This is so dumb.
1.2: Oh no, anything but real work? What even is this?
1.3: It was literally that time of the cycle. Bitcoin has never been more accepted, so who is banning it now?
1.4: And what exactly you can do what about this?
1.5: War has been going on for 3 years and 9 months now. Price of electricity got high almost immediately after countries boycotted Russia.
1.6: Oh no, poor NVIDIA.

And how NVIDIA needs saving exactly? Or are you talking about stock bag holders? Should we try to save every AI company as well when their bubbles burst?
And all gamers i know hate the fact that miners hoarded all the cards, and because of that they hate crypto as well.

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December 07, 2025, 03:38:21 AM
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Why was 2025 a massive disappointment? We went from basically 80K to 126K, which is more than 50% growth and 50% is a very good ROI in one year, assuming you bought Bitcoin when it was at its lowest in 2025. True rise began in 2023, from 17K USD and went as high as 126K USD.
Bitcoin can't bring massive growth on the table because its market cap is already very high, it's $1.79 trillion dollars. It can't do better in the future. Just to get 100% ROI from this point, the market cap has to become basically 4 trillion dollars. That's a lot of money and that can't be collected overnight. Bitcoin was giving us amazing results because it was still relatively unknown and the market cap was just a few million dollars. Tens and hundreds of millions of dollars flew into Bitcoin very quickly and it brought amazing ROIs. It can't be done in the current situation. Only altcoins, with huge potentials can bring amazing numbers.

Not to mention, from the $15k bottom in 2022, bitcoin has climbed more than x8 in just 3 years. This is a huge profit that few assets can achieve these days. It can be said that not only 2025 but this bull season is not bad or disappointing, this is another impressive growth season for bitcoin. If someone is disappointed it may be because they set their expectations too high and always expected bitcoin to grow exponentially like previous cycles without considering bitcoin's market capitalization.

It is clear that bitcoin is no longer small, expecting it to double or triple in a short period of time with a market cap of over 2 trillion is unrealistic.

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Not to mention, from the $15k bottom in 2022, bitcoin has climbed more than x8 in just 3 years. This is a huge profit that few assets can achieve these days. It can be said that not only 2025 but this bull season is not bad or disappointing, this is another impressive growth season for bitcoin. If someone is disappointed it may be because they set their expectations too high and always expected bitcoin to grow exponentially like previous cycles without considering bitcoin's market capitalization.

It is clear that bitcoin is no longer small, expecting it to double or triple in a short period of time with a market cap of over 2 trillion is unrealistic.

It's not even that few assets can generate such profits, but rather that no assets can currently generate such profits within the legal framework and remain stable. It is clear that Bitcoin has market cycles, but this is also an element of stability, because Bitcoin holders know that if there is a bearish cycle now, then a bullish cycle will inevitably follow, and vice versa. Investors who were not prepared to wait were disappointed. If you look at the global Bitcoin price chart, you can clearly see all the profitable periods when it was possible to make a large profit from selling Bitcoin, not necessarily all of it, but even just a part of it.

 
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December 07, 2025, 09:40:29 PM
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Why was 2025 a massive disappointment? We went from basically 80K to 126K, which is more than 50% growth and 50% is a very good ROI in one year, assuming you bought Bitcoin when it was at its lowest in 2025. True rise began in 2023, from 17K USD and went as high as 126K USD.
Bitcoin can't bring massive growth on the table because its market cap is already very high, it's $1.79 trillion dollars. It can't do better in the future. Just to get 100% ROI from this point, the market cap has to become basically 4 trillion dollars. That's a lot of money and that can't be collected overnight. Bitcoin was giving us amazing results because it was still relatively unknown and the market cap was just a few million dollars. Tens and hundreds of millions of dollars flew into Bitcoin very quickly and it brought amazing ROIs. It can't be done in the current situation. Only altcoins, with huge potentials can bring amazing numbers.

No lies told. Bitcoin won't give the multiple returns it gave a decade ago vs now because such big moves will require big capital as well and there is currently no such capital available because even the Feds have been doing QT for years so there's little to no liquidity to push for such prices. But then again, Gold and NVDA are up 30%+  ytd compared to Bitcoin that is almost flat ytd so I do understand why some people might call it a disappointing year in terms of price action.

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No lies told. Bitcoin won't give the multiple returns it gave a decade ago vs now because such big moves will require big capital as well and there is currently no such capital available because even the Feds have been doing QT for years so there's little to no liquidity to push for such prices. But then again, Gold and NVDA are up 30%+  ytd compared to Bitcoin that is almost flat ytd so I do understand why some people might call it a disappointing year in terms of price action.

More precisely, gold prices have increased by almost 60% and NVDA has increased by more than 30%, while bitcoin has actually declined since the beginning of the year. But it's also unfair to say it's been a disappointing year for bitcoin, as any market has its ups and downs. We cannot expect bitcoin price to keep increasing every year without any correction or accumulation. Before that, Bitcoin had two strong growth years in 2023 and 2024, while gold was quite sluggish during that period. Or if we compare from 2023 to now, NVDA's growth is on par with bitcoin's, rising from $15 to $138, which is 9 times.

But then again, the exponential growth period of bitcoin is over, expecting bitcoin to grow x5-x10 is no longer realistic.

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