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So, it's 2022, and I'm making a thread about Jake Paul. Who would've thought, especially to talk about his boxing career. I'll be honest intiially the whole Youtube boxing stuff I wasn't a massive fan of it. I actually somewhat enjoyed the KSI, and Logan Paul events, but Jake Paul was always the odd one out for me. Anything he did pretty much annoyed me. However, I've come to realise, and respect someone that initially I didn't. He knows business, and he knows how to promote himself.
He basically setups up his own events, and you've got to respect someone putting in the graft. For the last few years he's basically dedicated his life to boxing, despite having all the money, and fame in the world. That's also quite admirable.
Now, there's currently some rumours floating around about him fighting Anderson Silva, and say what you like about his previous opponents, Anderson Silva who don't get wrong is getting on a bit now, is still a very dangerous opponent, and I do believe he's won previously in a boxing match, so has experience against a decent level opponent I do believe.
So, what do we all think about this being made? Is this the fight, that if it does happen you'll change your mind about Jake cherry picking his opponents? Honestly, I already have; even though he might cherry pick his opponents, he does it for a reason, and lets be quite honest with ourselves what boxer with any kind of success doesn't cherry pick fights early on in their careers? Joshua, Fury, Wilder, and even Chisora, and Loma have cherry picked fights in the past. However, with Jake it actually makes sense. The guy is all about business, and he's cherry picked these fights because he's trying to become the biggest PPV fighter. So, he's brought in Youtube supporters via his presence on there, he's brought in the MMA audience through fighting, and knocking out MMA legends, and he tried to dip his toes into mainstream boxing with two opponents that pulled out.
He's basically building the foundations of something very, very successful, and I've got to put my hands together for that. Jake's won my respect, very much like his older brother, but for different reasons.
Anyway, I'll update this thread as the news comes out, but it seems the word going around it'll be Anderson. What do we think of that particular match up? Still cherry picked?
P.S I'm not sure I could take another MMA legend getting knocked out by a boxer, though. There's some sort of silly rivalry with boxing, and MMA.
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Anderson Silva is not known for his punches in the MMA scene. Even though he's won a boxing match, I doubt it is enough of a weapon for him against an opponent that picks fighters that are obviously not strong in the boxing department. Jake's strategy of choosing famous MMA fighters with weak punching abilities puts him in the limelight of being 'on par' with these guys. But if the fight is MMA, I doubt Jake will last a long time against these seasoned grapplers.
One thing's for sure though, Silva or not, Jake is going to bag a lot of money in his future fight. He's mastered social media marketing and building hype on his bouts. He's a great advertiser and businessman, but I can't say much about his actual fighting skills.
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Anderson was pretty damn good, alright he's a mixed martial artist, and obviously his kicks were his highlight reels, but he's got a decent punch on him, and the ability to evade. I remember watching some of the highlights of that boxing match, and he performed pretty damn good. Looks pretty slick, not as slick as he did in the UFC, but still very decent.
Obviously, Jake goes into MMA that's a whole different story. If he went against any of his MMA opponents in MMA he'd likely get absolutely destroyed. However, I find boxing tends to even up the fight a little bit, and usually it's technique that wins, which isn't always the case with MMA.
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There's old footage on youtube of Anderson Silva training in Freddie Roach's (Manny Pacquiao's trainer) Wild Card Gym. This for example is from 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaYThere's a reason that no boxers are stepping up to fight Silva after he defeated Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. Anderson Silva has always been a legit boxer. Who sparred and beat up legit professional boxers in their own gyms for more than a decade. Without a doubt this will be Jake Paul's toughest challenge to date. If Silva wasn't 47 years old I think he would definitely be the betting favorite.
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It's true. Jake really can present himself well even in interviews, you can notice that he is an intelligent guy. What he had done since brought a lot of new fans to boxing that's why he becomes even more significant in the sport.
Challenging Silva seems like a big step to proving he isn't just picking his opponent. Silva had long defended a title on UFC for a long time. We may be able to see Jake losing the fight if Silva still can manage footwork.
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Honestly all these fights are getting old and tired. It's a bunch of amateurs fighting and it shows in the fights. The only reason people watch is because they are popular elsewhere. Otherwise it's uninspiring watching these people actually box. Was a cool fad for a minute but it's tired now.
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There's old footage on youtube of Anderson Silva training in Freddie Roach's (Manny Pacquiao's trainer) Wild Card Gym. This for example is from 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaYThere's a reason that no boxers are stepping up to fight Silva after he defeated Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. Anderson Silva has always been a legit boxer. Who sparred and beat up legit professional boxers in their own gyms for more than a decade. Without a doubt this will be Jake Paul's toughest challenge to date. If Silva wasn't 47 years old I think he would definitely be the betting favorite. Nice vids, Silva really has great footwork, and he always got a good angle whenever he throws punches making his opponent unable to counter. But this video was around 13 years ago, I wonder if he can still do such a stunt. Well, if he do then I think Paul would really have a very hard time against Silva. Maybe this time would be titled Cherry Picking Gone Wrong ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Honestly all these fights are getting old and tired. It's a bunch of amateurs fighting and it shows in the fights. The only reason people watch is because they are popular elsewhere. Otherwise it's uninspiring watching these people actually box. Was a cool fad for a minute but it's tired now.
Woodley really wasn't an amateur. Plus, Anderson is literally legendary level when it comes to MMA, and as evidenced above Anderson is a proper striker, and while he was definitely known for his kicks in MMA, he's definitely better than a amateur in terms of striking ability. I just feel Jake doesn't get the credit, because of how I initially thought of him. So, he's fighting a uphill battle because of his past history, but he has decent striking, and he has some power in those shots. None of the knockouts were staged, and it's hard to knock someone out like he did, especially in boxing. Usually, it takes a lot of punches, like a compounding effect. His knockouts were literally off the cuff, without much damage before hand. That's not something to ignore, that's skill, and he obviously has the right biological structure to generate the power he does. Like I said, I was also a doubter, and thought it was ridiculous, but this is a young fighter who's looking to make a career, and he's got a better record, against better fighters than most champions had. Despite them being MMA fighters, they were literally champions. Woodley being the most impressive due to him being somewhat known for his power, and chin.
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Anyway, I'll update this thread as the news comes out, but it seems the word going around it'll be Anderson. What do we think of that particular match up? Still cherry picked?
I've seen this news or is it still rumors circulating on social media I don't think its a cherry-picked fight it's worth it Silva already won against top-caliber professional fighters like Chavez Jr. he is a legit fighter against Jake Paul, I hope this fight becomes a done deal it's going to be a great fight. P.S I'm not sure I could take another MMA legend getting knocked out by a boxer, though. There's some sort of silly rivalry with boxing, and MMA.
I don't think Silva's going to get knocked out here his boxing skill is better than all Jake Paul have faced in the past, Silva will give Paul a real hard time inside the ring and Silva could handle Paul his first loss.
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Anderson Silva is not known for his punches in the MMA scene. Even though he's won a boxing match, I doubt it is enough of a weapon for him against an opponent that picks fighters that are obviously not strong in the boxing department. Jake's strategy of choosing famous MMA fighters with weak punching abilities puts him in the limelight of being 'on par' with these guys. But if the fight is MMA, I doubt Jake will last a long time against these seasoned grapplers. There is a reason Jake Paul chooses MMA fighters, if they sign the agreement they will appear on the fight night and we will have a fight. None of the so called professional boxers even though mocking him were not willing to fight him even after having the agreement and hence i am not surprised that Jake Paul is choosing another MMA fighter for his next bout. Anderson was pretty damn good, alright he's a mixed martial artist, and obviously his kicks were his highlight reels, but he's got a decent punch on him, and the ability to evade. I remember watching some of the highlights of that boxing match, and he performed pretty damn good. Looks pretty slick, not as slick as he did in the UFC, but still very decent. In his prime, Anderson Silva was known for his striking even though one of his highlight reel will have a front kick knockout to Vitor Belfort. The only concern is his age and his reflexes like he used to have, if not it will be a great fight.
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Anderson to fight on a boxing match? Aside for being old(as a fighter) he's not used to go fist to fist fight so most provably Paul have high advantage unto this fight. I wonder if the rumors is true about this fight but let see if this will happen because even if we know Anderson have disadvantage on this fight still their match up against Paul still entertaining to watch.
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Anderson Silva is not known for his punches in the MMA scene. Even though he's won a boxing match, I doubt it is enough of a weapon for him against an opponent that picks fighters that are obviously not strong in the boxing department. Jake's strategy of choosing famous MMA fighters with weak punching abilities puts him in the limelight of being 'on par' with these guys. But if the fight is MMA, I doubt Jake will last a long time against these seasoned grapplers. There is a reason Jake Paul chooses MMA fighters, if they sign the agreement they will appear on the fight night and we will have a fight. None of the so called professional boxers even though mocking him were not willing to fight him even after having the agreement and hence i am not surprised that Jake Paul is choosing another MMA fighter for his next bout. Anderson was pretty damn good, alright he's a mixed martial artist, and obviously his kicks were his highlight reels, but he's got a decent punch on him, and the ability to evade. I remember watching some of the highlights of that boxing match, and he performed pretty damn good. Looks pretty slick, not as slick as he did in the UFC, but still very decent. In his prime, Anderson Silva was known for his striking even though one of his highlight reel will have a front kick knockout to Vitor Belfort. The only concern is his age and his reflexes like he used to have, if not it will be a great fight. If Paul chose Silva as his next opponent, it means, he's seeing his advantage on him. I don't think he will choose that will make him underdog inside the ring. And it may be Silva's age why he chose him. But should not take Silva lightly, he has boxing skills that many don't know of. Sometimes I wish Jake Paul will lose so he will stop setting up these boxing exhibition matches. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Honestly all these fights are getting old and tired. It's a bunch of amateurs fighting and it shows in the fights. The only reason people watch is because they are popular elsewhere. Otherwise it's uninspiring watching these people actually box. Was a cool fad for a minute but it's tired now.
I have to agree. Just ruining the reputation of the sports because money matters. Anderson Silva should not bite this match as it will just be easy money for Jake Paul. He should protect his legacy as a future MMA HoF. The reason why real boxers get pissed off at this kind of match. But if the fight pushes through, I'm expecting lots of people will still watch this fight.
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Anderson to fight on a boxing match? Aside for being old(as a fighter) he's not used to go fist to fist fight so most provably Paul have high advantage unto this fight. I wonder if the rumors is true about this fight but let see if this will happen because even if we know Anderson have disadvantage on this fight still their match up against Paul still entertaining to watch.
He already fought Julio Cezar Chavez jr and win by a split decision his boxing skill is good considering that Chavez Jr is a good fighter with a good record he can keep up with Jake Paul's power and skill I don't think this is going to be another knockout win for MMA fighters who fought Jake Paul, although Jake Paul has an advantage in being a younger fighter Silva has all the skills to win, it's going to be a real war let's see since OP will update the thread for any development.
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I don't think these are rumors. It seems to be a legitimate fight with contracts already signed. It might not be the most exciting fight watching a punk kid fight an old legend. It's as close as they could get to Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson though, so at least they're trying to maintain some entertainment. I wonder how long Logan will be wrestling for until he gets back in the boxing ring.
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Anderson Silva is a pretty good boxer with quick and strong punches. He has combinations and has also pretty good head movement. But given that the man is already approaching 50 years old, Jake Paul could easily manage to wear him out and probably absorb his blows. Jake is way much younger. He must also be way much stronger than Anderson at least at this point of the latter's age.
If this pushes through, despite Anderson's legendary achievements in MMA, I think he would still be the underdog in the odds.
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September 03, 2022, 01:29:47 AM |
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I don't think these are rumors. It seems to be a legitimate fight with contracts already signed. It might not be the most exciting fight watching a punk kid fight an old legend. It's as close as they could get to Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson though, so at least they're trying to maintain some entertainment. I wonder how long Logan will be wrestling for until he gets back in the boxing ring.
Anderson Silva have confirmed the Jake Paul fight on a reply to a fan on Instagram. Now the comment have been deleted. A fan asked him under a video "Seriously Jake Paul?" And Silva responded "yes", indicating that the bout is happening. By the time Silva is officially granted with professional boxing license to fight in the state of Arizona. This comes after these rumour of fight and the Commissioner of Arizona have wished him on the fight to come.
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September 03, 2022, 02:30:12 AM |
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Anderson Silva is not known for his punches in the MMA scene. Even though he's won a boxing match, I doubt it is enough of a weapon for him against an opponent that picks fighters that are obviously not strong in the boxing department. Jake's strategy of choosing famous MMA fighters with weak punching abilities puts him in the limelight of being 'on par' with these guys. But if the fight is MMA, I doubt Jake will last a long time against these seasoned grapplers.
One thing's for sure though, Silva or not, Jake is going to bag a lot of money in his future fight. He's mastered social media marketing and building hype on his bouts. He's a great advertiser and businessman, but I can't say much about his actual fighting skills.
I very much disagree with your assessment. Anderson Silva has knocked out boxers before in the ring and he should not be underestimated versus a youtuber. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BLzMPtFRxrsIt also appears that uncle Dana approves of this and has also said that this will be a challenge for our favorite youtuber hehehe. I hope that this is not a rumor. At the post-fight media scrum following last night’s Contender Series event, White was asked about Paul’s proposed boxing match with former UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva, which is reportedly scheduled for late October. He is usually pretty hard on Paul, but in the case of a fight against his former middleweight legend he actually seemed somewhat impressed:
“I don’t give a sh-t, but, if he’s really fighting Anderson Silva, if he’s really fighting Anderson Silva, if that’s true, it’s about time. He’s got a real fight on his hands there, regardless of how old Anderson is. That’s a real fight.”Source https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2022/8/31/23331081/boxing-dana-white-jake-paul-vs-anderson-silva-real-fight-ufc-news
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September 03, 2022, 04:37:07 AM |
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There's old footage on youtube of Anderson Silva training in Freddie Roach's (Manny Pacquiao's trainer) Wild Card Gym. This for example is from 2009: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaYThere's a reason that no boxers are stepping up to fight Silva after he defeated Julio Caesar Chavez Jr. Anderson Silva has always been a legit boxer. Who sparred and beat up legit professional boxers in their own gyms for more than a decade. Without a doubt this will be Jake Paul's toughest challenge to date. If Silva wasn't 47 years old I think he would definitely be the betting favorite. At 47 still fighting. Silva was once the most feared fighter in MMA but because of his leg injury, it will prevents him from getting a good angle. Apart of his age, a broken leg is considered a handicap that Jake is about to take advantage. Its a fair fight imo. Jake is in control to most of his matches, he is the ones making deals outside a boxing organization. But I do really want to see Jake gets KOed and to see what he's next plan after it.
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September 03, 2022, 05:51:35 AM |
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Anderson to fight on a boxing match? Aside for being old(as a fighter) he's not used to go fist to fist fight so most provably Paul have high advantage unto this fight. I wonder if the rumors is true about this fight but let see if this will happen because even if we know Anderson have disadvantage on this fight still their match up against Paul still entertaining to watch.
Boxing and MMA are 2 different kind of combat sport. Silva is a natural born fighter specifically in MMA and boxing requires more stamina to sustain your strength, power, and agility all throughout the scheduled round of the match. I've seen the Silva vs Machado boxing fight and I can say Silva can actually box, however he tends to exhaust himself by throwing a lot of punches and basically he rans out of stamina maybe because like I said boxing requires more stamina coz you need to keep your head and feet movements and defend yourself all time with only your gloves on your knuckles. Jake Paul on the other hand was a YouTuber and practiced combat sport maybe around when he's older enough compared to Anderson Silva who's been training his whole life with combat sport. I don't think someone has an obvious advantage against each other though.
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