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September 03, 2022, 03:10:41 PM
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Username crzy
Bitcoin Address: bc1q94fzl2e920xe8eepq3m2m7qx4khszt0ahshhy7

Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1151196
Current amount of posts (including this one): 2330
SegWit (preferably bech32) BTC Address for Payouts: bc1q94fzl2e920xe8eepq3m2m7qx4khszt0ahshhy7
EARNED merit in the last 120 days: 6

I'll update my signature once accepted and once my campaign ended tomorrow. Thank you!

I sent him a PM regarding this on 31st August and I didn't get an answer yet. So, Let's discuss it publicly. I am not sure if it's sufficient to prove the connection. He is on Duelbits signature campaign for two years. Every week, He receives his payment to this address bc1q94fzl2e920xe8eepq3m2m7qx4khszt0ahshhy7. After receiving the payment, He sent it to this address every week. 35fB61PKCR1a1PTuLwjCk7WkCi2WY6wLEh
Which is used by banned users. Three of them are banned and one of them gets signature banned until 2029.

Accounts Connected:

Seeker01 (banned)
richminded (banned)
Dreamchaser21 (banned)
creeps (Signature banned until August 02, 2029)
CryptoManiac21 (inactive) - Brand New profile, probably one of the connected accounts


Proof:

Btctalk name: creeps
Rank: Full Member
Current post count: 871
BTC address(No BCH): 35fB61PKCR1a1PTuLwjCk7WkCi2WY6wLEh
Wear appropriate signature: YES
Wear avatar: YES
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Btctalk name : Seeker01
Rank : Full Member
Current post count : 575
BTC Address : 35fB61PKCR1a1PTuLwjCk7WkCi2WY6wLEh

Please today is the last day of my current campaign, if i given the chance i will update my signature right away.
Thank you so much.
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Dreamchaser21 asked the reason why he was banned and a few days after he has sent a bounty report for the banned member Seeker01. The original message has been deleted but was saved in the quote:

Thank You. Week 1 ran from 07/31 - 08/06. Week 2 is from 08/07 - 08/13. Kindly submit eligible entries till 08/06 for now. Thanks. Week 2 submission opens up on 08/14.
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Dreamchaser21 and creeps have registered at the same day. Also, according to BPIP, creeps and Dreamchaser21 have changed passwords within 15 minutes:

Code:
8/15/2018 9:07:22 AM 	password changed - creeps
8/15/2018 9:22:26 AM password changed - Dreamchaser21


Related Addresses:

Code:
35fB61PKCR1a1PTuLwjCk7WkCi2WY6wLEh
Twitter @CryptoManiac21


Miscellaneous:
Cheating bounty campaigns with alt accounts: DIMCOIN Signature Campaign (Archive), [BOUNTY] HIGH PAYING BTC SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN (Archive)
Sending merit between alts (richminded, Dreamchaser21, creeps): https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Dreamchaser21

I believe they are alt accounts and evading bans. Because he received his payment every week at his address and sent it to another address on weekly basis. What do you think about it? If you think it's sufficient proof. I will post it on Ban evading thread.

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September 03, 2022, 03:32:22 PM
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most likely the @crzy account is indeed an alternative to the banned account. but the proof of transaction that you provide will not be enough to penalize the @crzy account.

It seems that the Mod is also more careful in handling cases of account ban reports compared to cases of plagiarism.

So you have to provide data matching from the banned account with the active account. and of course, the post is still on the forums. it hasn't been removed by the user, as @Xal0lex said.
Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.

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September 03, 2022, 08:15:54 PM
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That address belongs to a wallet from coins.ph - Philippine crypto exchange. So he sends coins every week to exchange for cash. This means that @crzy is most likely an alt of other accounts or part of a farm of accounts that all used that same deposit address.

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September 03, 2022, 09:24:05 PM
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So you have to provide data matching from the banned account with the active account. and of course, the post is still on the forums. it hasn't been removed by the user, as @Xal0lex said.
Based on their own experience, global moderators do not consider links to posts from Ninjastic.space, as well as Loyce.club, as evidence. Posts that are used as evidence of any violation of the rules by users should be on the forum on a mandatory basis.
Wow, this is a new one for me, I had no idea. Any reason why they don't consider data from third party archive sites?



OP, have you tried reporting this case of ban evasion to the mods? If not, please try and do so. Maybe they just didn't see the post. Personally, I think the blockchain evidence gives enough proof.

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September 03, 2022, 10:19:37 PM
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These transactions cannot be considered as proof that the accounts are owned by one person.
In the country where I live, there are local sellers who only have wallets on the exchanges where they have a single address that they can't change and they take all the bitcoin they buy at one address. Which means that if there are many transfers that reach that address, there is a hypothesis that the banned member is a reseller who buys Bitcoin from the suspicious member every week. As long as this hypothesis exists, it is not possible to confirm the connection between the two accounts based on transactions only.
Of course, almost all of us are sure that the two accounts belong to one person, but from the point of view of the moderators, all possible assumptions must be taken into account so that no one is wronged.

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September 04, 2022, 12:16:53 AM
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I sent him a PM regarding this on 31st August and I didn't get an answer yet. So, Let's discuss it publicly.
I don't really know why some users ignore PMs relating to accusation, but later on when things are getting serious you see them show up with some excuses/reasons/defense.

A simple PM reply stating that the address they send btc to is an exchange or a corporative address (if something of that exist), would have solved this problem.  Now, you have made it public, I believe he will have to reply. Maybe he is waiting to see the forum reactions first before he will clear the air.

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September 04, 2022, 04:00:01 AM
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That address belongs to a wallet from coins.ph - Philippine crypto exchange. So he sends coins every week to exchange for cash.
I understand that concept, but does coins.ph only give out one address for many individual members to use?  If that is indeed the case, then there's no merit to OP's suspicion. 

Even if it isn't true, sending coins to someone's address every week doesn't necessarily mean they're alt accounts.  There could be any number of reasons someone would do that, and to hand out negative/neutral trust based on that evidence alone would be unfair IMO.

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I sent him a PM regarding this on 31st August and I didn't get an answer yet. So, Let's discuss it publicly.
I don't really know why some users ignore PMs relating to accusation, but later on when things are getting serious you see them show up with some excuses/reasons/defense.

A simple PM reply stating that the address they send btc to is an exchange or a corporative address (if something of that exist), would have solved this problem.  Now, you have made it public, I believe he will have to reply. Maybe he is waiting to see the forum reactions first before he will clear the air.

I disagree. Nobody owes you an explanation in such matters. If you can't make your case using only post history + blockchain, then you don't have a case.

Privacy-invasive behavior should be discouraged.

This type of inquisition is the lowliest approach to merit farming.

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I sent him a PM regarding this on 31st August and I didn't get an answer yet. So, Let's discuss it publicly.
I don't really know why some users ignore PMs relating to accusation, but later on when things are getting serious you see them show up with some excuses/reasons/defense.

A simple PM reply stating that the address they send btc to is an exchange or a corporative address (if something of that exist), would have solved this problem.  Now, you have made it public, I believe he will have to reply. Maybe he is waiting to see the forum reactions first before he will clear the air.


This type of inquisition is the lowliest approach to merit farming.

This is what I notice for several newbie account who want to get merits they usually do this action and create controversy just to create attention on there post to capture some merits from curious people who read their post.

We need to be careful on this type of users because for sure they do this to accumulate merits and after that they also target to became a DT member and this will create another toxicity on this community.

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September 04, 2022, 07:38:36 AM
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That address belongs to a wallet from coins.ph - Philippine crypto exchange. So he sends coins every week to exchange for cash.
I understand that concept, but does coins.ph only give out one address for many individual members to use? 

No. No exchanges give the same address to several users. Whenever you create an account and verify. You will be able to generate an address. On Some exchanges, You don't have to generate an address. It will be rendered once you create an account. I might be wrong, Nah?

I believe this is his account on coins.ph and that's why he sent his coins every week. If it's not your exchange wallet, You won't do that every week. You may sell coins anywhere else at least once.

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At first, I thought, why not ask him? But he didn't reply. So, it raises suspicion, and I am here with a Question mark from the beginning of this thread. So, What's wrong? If others think this is insufficient to prove the connection, it is absurd to report it to Mods.

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At first, I thought, why not ask him? But he didn't reply. So, it raises suspicion, and I am here with a Question mark from the beginning of this thread. So, What's wrong? If others think this is insufficient to prove the connection, it is absurd to report it to Mods.

He don't have obligation to explain anything to you and anyone has his own right to remain silent.

And who are you by the way to oblige him to respond on what you are claiming here?

Everyone doesn't owe any explanation to you so maybe he doesn't respond because he find this thread irrelevant.

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That address belongs to a wallet from coins.ph - Philippine crypto exchange. So he sends coins every week to exchange for cash.
I understand that concept, but does coins.ph only give out one address for many individual members to use?  If that is indeed the case, then there's no merit to OP's suspicion. 

I do not think so. According to WalletExplorer, there are over 2.7 million addresses with at least one transaction on that wallet: Wallet [00000dd86b] addresses
I think we can safely assume that every user of the coins.ph exchange has their own unique deposit address. And, from what I understand, coins.ph is a very popular exchange there because it allows users to link their bank accounts so that all crypto deposits are automatically converted to local currency without any additional fees. Perhaps someone from the Filipino community can confirm this?

Even if it isn't true, sending coins to someone's address every week doesn't necessarily mean they're alt accounts.  There could be any number of reasons someone would do that, and to hand out negative/neutral trust based on that evidence alone would be unfair IMO.

True, that does not necessarily mean they are alt accounts (although occam's razor says the simplest explanation is most likely true). But sending your weekly paycheck to someone else's account does not make much sense, either, unless it is a very close friend or family member or you know them very well and trust them with your money.


He don't have obligation to explain anything to you and anyone has his own right to remain silent.

He does not have to do anything. But, since the suspect account is connected to a group of greedy scammers and bounty cheaters who, by the way, have already been banned from the forum, I think it would be wise for him to come forward and explain the situation.

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Another account from this forum also regularly sends transactions to this address. I think they are both alternate accounts. But I don't see any violations, both accounts participate in signature companies from different sponsors.
OP, can you say something about the second account? Maybe he breaks some rules?

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September 04, 2022, 01:48:51 PM
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OP, can you say something about the second account? Maybe he breaks some rules?

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=bc1q2d0nu5dya2x963mzn3l4hqurhkmtl4wv4fqcek

I won't dare to say anything else about another account since the current one is insufficient to prove the connection. About other rules, I know you have better knowledge than me. By asking this, You only test my skill. I can only say that both account posts on the Philippines local board are sig spammers.

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That address belongs to a wallet from coins.ph - Philippine crypto exchange. So he sends coins every week to exchange for cash.
I understand that concept, but does coins.ph only give out one address for many individual members to use?  If that is indeed the case, then there's no merit to OP's suspicion. 
I do not think so. According to WalletExplorer, there are over 2.7 million addresses with at least one transaction on that wallet: Wallet [00000dd86b] addresses
I think we can safely assume that every user of the coins.ph exchange has their own unique deposit address. And, from what I understand, coins.ph is a very popular exchange there because it allows users to link their bank accounts so that all crypto deposits are automatically converted to local currency without any additional fees. Perhaps someone from the Filipino community can confirm this?
I can confirm that you will get your unique address for your account personally. You can see the highlighted part in their support thread that says

Note that you have a unique wallet address for the following cryptocurrencies: BTC, ETH, BCH, and XRP
Each account has a personal account and a unique address for each user. Applicable as well to the coins mentioned above.

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Hi, Mr crzy! AKA seeker01, richminded, Dreamchaser21, creeps.

Can I have your telegram? So that we can talk?

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I Confirm that I received your message last August 31.
I choose not to reply because I don't know if this is how you accused people here cause it looks like you already have your own conclusion. Wondering as well why do I need to contact you in telegram. Nevertheless, here I am now responding to your accusation.

I believe they are alt accounts and evading bans. Because he received his payment every week at his address and sent it to another address on weekly basis. What do you think about it? If you think it's sufficient proof. I will post it on Ban evading thread.
That's a service wallet, where they offer a service to cash out your Bitcoin in exchange of paying them of 10% service charge. With my current situation and the KYC requirement of our local wallet, it's not easy to convert your BTC into fiat money. There's a lot of services like this here in our local and I don't see that as a problem. Just to clear things here, I'm not connected to those accounts and will never be involve into this kind of activity. I'm still on the process of making my own wallet because KYC in coinsph is very strict, they are asking almost every month for the update and not just for a valid ID, they are also requiring proof of income and proof of address which is not easy to attain especially if you are just working online as a freelancer and still have no capacity to provide those requirements. Hope I make things clear here.
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I believe they are alt accounts and evading bans. Because he received his payment every week at his address and sent it to another address on weekly basis. What do you think about it? If you think it's sufficient proof. I will post it on Ban evading thread.
That's a service wallet, where they offer a service to cash out your Bitcoin in exchange of paying them of 10% service charge. With my current situation and the KYC requirement of our local wallet, it's not easy to convert your BTC into fiat money. There's a lot of services like this here in our local and I don't see that as a problem. Just to clear things here, I'm not connected to those accounts and will never be involve into this kind of activity. I'm still on the process of making my own wallet because KYC in coinsph is very strict, they are asking almost every month for the update and not just for a valid ID, they are also requiring proof of income and proof of address which is not easy to attain especially if you are just working online as a freelancer and still have no capacity to provide those requirements. Hope I make things clear here.

This is really confusing. So you claim it's not your coins.ph account but you sell your BTC to someone for fiat every week? Do you have any evidence to back this up? Is it someone you got in touch with through the forum or in some other way? Do you know him personally?
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This is really confusing. So you claim it's not your coins.ph account but you sell your BTC to someone for fiat every week? Do you have any evidence to back this up? Is it someone you got in touch with through the forum or in some other way? Do you know him personally?

Its not confusing at all. You have no authority here, and they owe you no answer.

If you feel this person committed a sin of some kind, either report them to the mods or leave the appropriate feedback and move on.

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This is really confusing. So you claim it's not your coins.ph account but you sell your BTC to someone for fiat every week? Do you have any evidence to back this up? Is it someone you got in touch with through the forum or in some other way? Do you know him personally?

Its not confusing at all. You have no authority here, and they owe you no answer.

If you feel this person committed a sin of some kind, either report them to the mods or leave the appropriate feedback and move on.
Iron Fist's questions are sounding like exactly backing up OP. Most chance are there for this account to be OP's alt or friend or something because this is their 1st post on this reputation board on the exact same day when OP is inactive.
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Its not confusing at all. You have no authority here, and they owe you no answer.

If you feel this person committed a sin of some kind, either report them to the mods or leave the appropriate feedback and move on.

This actually should be the best approach to every problem or cases of cheating in the forum. But the irony of the matter is some of the accounts hunting for alt accounts are actually alts who might want to rank-up in a more smart way. Again, if they report to moderators, moderators will surely dismiss the report as bad because the evidences presented are not clear enough. When they decide to tag such accounts, the feedback won't have effects because they are not on DT.

I believe this is the reason they create topics upon topics for similar cases trying to drag the attention of DT members to do the tagging. I saw one the other day who has not made any other post than commanding DT members around to do the investigation and tagging for them.

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