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September 08, 2022, 04:35:56 AM
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Personally, I tried many of these groups (paid and free), but unfortunately I did not get much benefit, I have many of them in Telegram, but I do not want to put links here so as not to make free advertising for them, there are some recommendations that were good, but most of them did not achieve their goals, these channels Or groups in a way that aims to profit from followers only. So you don't have to hope to make big profits from it.
Another thing most of them steal each other's recommendations.

In fact no one can ever say the market condition correctly. No one can tell you with any guarantee how long this token will go up or down. Because no one knows when the market will happen. Only expert traders can give you an idea about the trade with their analysis. And indeed there is no such signal that it will hit as it says.So you do the analysis yourself without buying signals. If you don't understand anything at first then you can follow other group. But as he said, you will not be disappointed if you buy the tokens later and play Loch.You can learn everything slowly, if you want to be a good trader then you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about the market. But you won't actually find a group that will tell you exactly when a token goes up or down. So don't get cheated by buying other people's signals.
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September 08, 2022, 08:50:47 AM
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In fact no one can ever say the market condition correctly. No one can tell you with any guarantee how long this token will go up or down. Because no one knows when the market will happen. Only expert traders can give you an idea about the trade with their analysis. And indeed there is no such signal that it will hit as it says.So you do the analysis yourself without buying signals. If you don't understand anything at first then you can follow other group. But as he said, you will not be disappointed if you buy the tokens later and play Loch.You can learn everything slowly, if you want to be a good trader then you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about the market. But you won't actually find a group that will tell you exactly when a token goes up or down. So don't get cheated by buying other people's signals.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.


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September 08, 2022, 03:27:19 PM
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Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.
The only experience you get from such groups is that going for lucrative looking deals and picks taken by random internet people, leads to getting scammed. Repeating the same mistake by joining another such group is the sign of not having learnt from a mistake.

In fact there are many newbies trying to do this everyday but getting fooled by the group owners but they still dont learn their lesson. This is the reason why such topics come up every week in this forum.

The best experience is often by making a mistake in dummy trading and in real life trading. It is not easy to make money in the market and nobody is going to help you here. But learning to do spot trading is easy and needs patience.

 
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September 08, 2022, 03:44:55 PM
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Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.
The only experience you get from such groups is that going for lucrative looking deals and picks taken by random internet people, leads to getting scammed. Repeating the same mistake by joining another such group is the sign of not having learnt from a mistake.

In fact there are many newbies trying to do this everyday but getting fooled by the group owners but they still dont learn their lesson. This is the reason why such topics come up every week in this forum.

The best experience is often by making a mistake in dummy trading and in real life trading. It is not easy to make money in the market and nobody is going to help you here. But learning to do spot trading is easy and needs patience.
Indeed, there is no other choice than the offers that have been provided in the group to take advantage of them, they choose a random price to sell or buy which has been determined by the owner of the usual group.

But beginners just want to be faster so that it becomes a good choice for him and never think about the risk of whether this is a scam or not beginners often follow when there is a big and easy profit.

For me without experience and mistakes it's a lesson but in trading it takes a long process of experience, beginners should start from here, not join a group and then follow random directions.

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September 08, 2022, 10:35:12 PM
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In fact no one can ever say the market condition correctly. No one can tell you with any guarantee how long this token will go up or down. Because no one knows when the market will happen. Only expert traders can give you an idea about the trade with their analysis. And indeed there is no such signal that it will hit as it says.So you do the analysis yourself without buying signals. If you don't understand anything at first then you can follow other group. But as he said, you will not be disappointed if you buy the tokens later and play Loch.You can learn everything slowly, if you want to be a good trader then you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about the market. But you won't actually find a group that will tell you exactly when a token goes up or down. So don't get cheated by buying other people's signals.
Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.
Not only that but totally depending on other people can also make you lose money because you will be introduced to a scam coin but of course, you will invest on it as you don't know the real truth behind it. Scenarios like this can be avoided on those premium groups which requires you to pay them although the chance to lose is still there because they are not a god to know everything but they are only a human that can make mistakes too.

It's easy for us to say that we should learn on our own but the reality is that not all want's to exert an effort but there are lazy peeps that only want to do things in the easiest possible way.
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Last edit: September 09, 2022, 05:01:58 PM by kawetsriyanto
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But I think it will be okay if you still want to look for free signals at no cost as long as you also analyze before you use them or decide to buy the coins based on them. This is to avoid mistakes in buying the wrong coins and not being able to benefit us.
If you know most free signal groups can't be trusted, you shouldn't join them. It even makes the chance of choosing the wrong coins to be higher. The more often you see the signals, the higher opportunity to be inspired to buy them someday. It won't be a good idea to make free signal groups as the source of analyzing potential coins. It will be better to analyze potential coins in our own way. Learn how to read chart patterns, knows the fundamental factors of the coins, and update information related to coins, these are what we need to determine potential coins.

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September 09, 2022, 08:59:28 PM
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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley
Telegram is not a secure platform.  Scammers attack Telegram the most.  So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram . And Facebook carries a real identity of every person so I don't think it's wise to use Facebook Messenger for cryptocurrency trading or anything else related crypto. You can use Discord to take trading signal and also you can follow trading Discussions and speculators
^ Any social media group should not be trusted as a trader signal group. Most of them are not reliable as our references in trading, it is preferred to have our own research than relaying them our trading activity. A day trader needs accurate results which don't have a delay if a group gives a delayed broadcast of price prediction it could be will lead you to the wrong action which results in possible losses. So I recommend to anyone avoid them as much as you can have your own research then you are fine.
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September 09, 2022, 09:49:27 PM
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Paid crypto traders group is such a waste of money and time. Yes, it is a thing in the past, when ICO is in surge, but all it did is just hype, lure its members buy a new shitcoin or buy the hype then leave them hanging in the top when the group leaders sell almost their holdings.
People knows such thing still exists today but yeah, better to read news, follow what specific trader in crpyto twitter and learn with yourself.

True. You still find a lot of paid groups. You will find paid group promotions within crypto related free groups. I joined a paid trading group and it was the worst decision I ever made. They keep sharing random signals and only a few of those signals are successful. And the admin takes credit for the signal that is successful and forgets the trades that lose! The trader's trading balance will be zero before he realizes anything. So instead of joining these groups it is better to trade using your own knowledge.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley
Telegram is not a secure platform.  Scammers attack Telegram the most.  So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram . And Facebook carries a real identity of every person so I don't think it's wise to use Facebook Messenger for cryptocurrency trading or anything else related crypto. You can use Discord to take trading signal and also you can follow trading Discussions and speculators
^ Any social media group should not be trusted as a trader signal group. Most of them are not reliable as our references in trading, it is preferred to have our own research than relaying them our trading activity. A day trader needs accurate results which don't have a delay if a group gives a delayed broadcast of price prediction it could be will lead you to the wrong action which results in possible losses. So I recommend to anyone avoid them as much as you can have your own research then you are fine.

It's a bad thing to trust trader groups to make decisions when trading, even I have joined several times with a paid group traders, the results
are far from what I expected. Apart from constantly losing money,  my trading skills also didn't improve. So as you said don't trust signal group
traders on any social media, because the result is the same we will only lose money. Because most trading groups only benefit the group owner,
so if we want to be a successful trader we should avoid joining trading groups. If we really want our trading skills to increase, I prefer to join
a trading course. Because based on my experience joining trading courses, I learned many things about trading, even some trading courses
provide mentors to assist us in trading. So the money I spend to join the trading course is much more useful, now i am starting to understand
how to analyze the market well, slowly my trading results are getting better.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley
This is a question that is asked frequently in this forum and if you have taken the time to read the responses to those questions you will see that the majority of the members of the forum are not really very enthusiastic about those groups, and it is very easy to see why that is the case, most of those groups do not really proportionate to you any kind of useful information about learning how to trade and instead they give signals, signals that are not really that good either so if I were you I will stay away from those groups so you don't waste your time.
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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley

-  Often in crypto traders groups, especially in the telegram channel, there is a fee demanded. And when you are honest with exploitative people, you can get money in the end, so be careful.

But others say that there are also legit ones but the problem is we don't know if they are legit, because everyone will say that they are legitimate trading groups, signal groups.

So, why do you seem to want to join such? doesn't it seem like by doing that you are giving opportunities to exploitative people here in the crypto trading industry? I'm just asking.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley
Telegram is not a secure platform.  Scammers attack Telegram the most.  So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram.
(....)
I don't find the issue here is on Telegram, scammers are the problem here, we say it's very easy to create an account on Telegram so anyone can create an account and/or pretend someone and scam other people. Even on what platform, you can encounter these kinds of problem.
People must also learn the basics here like how to spot scams or fishy actions by someone or a group.

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If you intend to enter a telegram group for the purpose of day trading i will advise you not to spending your time engaging in such a pointless pastimes as there is no proof that will furnish you with factual data  simply because they do not have such a perfect experience to do so in order to succeed in gaining payout. Instead you should just check out several YouTube videos  to ensure your planned action will be profitable,.

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or maybe none at all. paid groups don't equate to assurance of getting profits. we have no idea where they are getting their info about those signals. so yeah, maybe, most of them are just speculating and basing from rumours.

Paid groups do not guarantee the correctness of their forecasts, since it is simply impossible to do this in the cryptocurrency market. Given this, we can assume that the percentage of correct transactions is approximately the same in paid and free groups.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley
Telegram is not a secure platform.  Scammers attack Telegram the most.  So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram.
(....)
I don't find the issue here is on Telegram, scammers are the problem here, we say it's very easy to create an account on Telegram so anyone can create an account and/or pretend someone and scam other people. Even on what platform, you can encounter these kinds of problem.
People must also learn the basics here like how to spot scams or fishy actions by someone or a group.
A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t  any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.
It wont be bad on joining those groups as long you are aware on whats happening around or you do see something fishy which it would really be basing up on your own will and judgement.There are lots of free groups

out there which some of them do share up some relevant information and considerable analysis which can be possibly applied into yours and this is where people/trader differs when it comes on being resourceful.

Just dont pay up anything when someone do really ask out on doing so because those trading signals and tips are just pure speculation too and its better to depend on your own
and never ever pay on something like this.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions? Smiley
This is a question that is asked frequently in this forum and if you have taken the time to read the responses to those questions you will see that the majority of the members of the forum are not really very enthusiastic about those groups, and it is very easy to see why that is the case, most of those groups do not really proportionate to you any kind of useful information about learning how to trade and instead they give signals, signals that are not really that good either so if I were you I will stay away from those groups so you don't waste your time.
I understand the keen interest towards these because I have been part of a few as well and found out it was bad and left myself but the best educator is actually doing something and realizing why it is bad rather than just hearing about why it is bad from other people.

We can talk about how that is bad as long as we want and in the end we are going to end up with a big loss no matter what, hence it is not going to be acceptable for OP or anyone who wants to try it out to just hear it from us. Just go join one, and see why we disliked it, but at the very least make sure that you do not spend all of your money on what you hear there so you won't have to start from scratch.

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I understand the keen interest towards these because I have been part of a few as well and found out it was bad and left myself but the best educator is actually doing something and realizing why it is bad rather than just hearing about why it is bad from other people.
Realizing how bad they are will make you appreciate that slow growth and process in trading is still the best. You're the one to realize and see the huge gap that it brings if you're learning on your own through your experience, no dictation, no one gives you that doubt to yourself.

We can talk about how that is bad as long as we want and in the end we are going to end up with a big loss no matter what, hence it is not going to be acceptable for OP or anyone who wants to try it out to just hear it from us. Just go join one, and see why we disliked it, but at the very least make sure that you do not spend all of your money on what you hear there so you won't have to start from scratch.
Well for me, they better listen instead of doing the whole thing and joining these so called trading groups. What's must better to be realized is all about learning on their own through trading and understanding it through their made experiences.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t  any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.
And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them
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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t  any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.
And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them
When one can do market analysis then surely one gets an idea about the up and downs of the market.  And when he receives a signal from a trading group, he is able to analyze it himself and feel how profitable the signal is. So I think a trader needs to have basic knowledge of market analysis regardless of which group to take signals from . otherwise he will never get better profit

IMHO you are talking about mediocre trading signal base on the tone of your discussion because the real signal was meant as guide for completely noob traders for there trading moves. It includes explanation of both technical analysis and fundamental analysis. I knew that there are a lot of signal group that using the term signal on providing bullshit trading call but that is not the real purpose of signal.

Traders should really have a basic knowledge before they even start trading and trading signal is guide on what coin should be bought since it’s very hard to browse all the coins and look all the chart for buy signal.
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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t  any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.
And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them
When one can do market analysis then surely one gets an idea about the up and downs of the market.  And when he receives a signal from a trading group, he is able to analyze it himself and feel how profitable the signal is. So I think a trader needs to have basic knowledge of market analysis regardless of which group to take signals from . otherwise he will never get better profit

IMHO you are talking about mediocre trading signal base on the tone of your discussion because the real signal was meant as guide for completely noob traders for there trading moves. It includes explanation of both technical analysis and fundamental analysis. I knew that there are a lot of signal group that using the term signal on providing bullshit trading call but that is not the real purpose of signal.

Traders should really have a basic knowledge before they even start trading and trading signal is guide on what coin should be bought since it’s very hard to browse all the coins and look all the chart for buy signal.
You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

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