Crypto day trader groups

[GeorgeJohn]

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

[TelolettOm]

A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t  any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.
We cannot deny that sometimes, we may use certain trading signal moreover from VIP group, however, in fact, not all signal will work as what they have done Because sometimes, they have tried the signal at first and when we are treated in the position, the market may be changing. That is why the signal may be not effective. I have ever joined a VIP trading signal group, in fact, the administrator also said that no every signal will work effectively 100%, and there will be always risks to the signal. SO, be wise with the trading margin and position.

[redsun114]

I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

[Silberman]

I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

[blue_hurricanger]

Like everyone had said, it's just a waste of time to be in the day trader/signal groups. Paid or not. Better spend your time learning how the market works, open a trial account, trade and learn the basics from there. Or learn about the technical terms, and situational for crypto in general.

Cause information/tips/signals from any trader group are unreliable and have to be seen from a cynical point of view. No one going to give out free lunch. This brings you back to your situation: if you're a newbie, knowing that you knew nothing about the market and how it works and had to rely on those groups then you're completely under their thumb, under their manipulation. See how many risks you put yourself in?

[ultrloa]

I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

[TheUltraElite]

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it.

  The basics should cover the fact that scammers run rampant and that paid groups or non-paid groups giving out free picks are actually scams run by such people. In fact the amount of money such scams generate is enough to give the impulse to these scammers to keep running and launching more such groups.

Therefore such groups should be completely avoided, specially those being cold -PMed on telegram or so.

If someone wants to make money from the market, they can't have a get-rich-quick mindset, they will lose money to scammers.

[monineklutak]

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

[BuNga_cute]

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

As you said, trading is not easy, so we have to learn how to trade properly. Don't look for shortcuts when trading, it will only result in losses
in the end. I see people who trade relying on the signals given in trading groups are just lazy people to learn how to analyze the market.
Even though the signals given by trading groups only benefit the group owner.

Of all the trading groups that I have participated in, it is rare that they provide education for their members, most trading groups only give signals
to their members, to buy certain coins at their recommended prices. Even though the fact is that after we buy the coins, the coins will suddenly
dump, because we are only used by the group owner for his personal gain. Even paid trading groups are the same, will not make us successful traders.
My advice is to avoid joining trading groups that only provide trading signals, just focus on learning how to do research and analysis. It would be
much better if we take a trading course, it will teach how to become a successful trader.

[awik p]

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

trading experience is needed to shape our trading personality, by continuing to practice and pay attention to each of our transactions, then we will know our shortcomings and can improve them. if this is done continuously then later we will become experienced traders and can understand market movements. so in learning trading there is no surrender, we must be ready to be swayed by the market until we can understand it

[milewilda]

A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t  any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.
We cannot deny that sometimes, we may use certain trading signal moreover from VIP group, however, in fact, not all signal will work as what they have done Because sometimes, they have tried the signal at first and when we are treated in the position, the market may be changing. That is why the signal may be not effective. I have ever joined a VIP trading signal group, in fact, the administrator also said that no every signal will work effectively 100%, and there will be always risks to the signal. SO, be wise with the trading margin and position.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or  access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.
Nothing beats out when you do learn up from yourself on the things which you are the ones who could benefit out rather than making yourself believe to follow into those so called groups which are
actually not really give out any difference.Cant really deny that they do really have some help in terms of analysis been given but those arent just precise nor accurate but rather pure speculations
been made.You are just simply wasting off money on paying up into those sub fees which arent really that helpful at all.

[bhooscream]

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or  access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much 
That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

[TelolettOm]

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

That is a personal choice, but from my own experience, joining a VIP trading signal doesnt mean that we will earn the profits much, or even the trading signals will work, no, exactly not.
Moreover if we use them without any basic or further skills and ability about trading, moreover Future trading, this will not be efective. Trading signal is only as a support to be sued for consideration, not for the only one to use the signal to trade.
That is why eprsonally I prefer to stop using it and leave Future trading because that was very not suitable for me. And for those who are new, it is better not only to use trading signal,moroever the free one.

[Awwal08]

I have joined 2 discord group of crypto traders led by @Mindset_BTC and @bloodgoodBTC -- that's their Twitter handle. You can chat or ask questions from there but it isn't a community that's frequently active who will gave signals for you to follow. They also have trading resources just to get your feet wet.

Or...you can just hop in to the Speculation[1] or Trading Discussion[2] board here in this forum.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

Thanks for the info, I'm very glad to see a group to join, I really lose a lot of money. This will bring the ending of losing money, I will now trade with caution.

[bossofbetting]

Thanks for the info, I'm very glad to see a group to join, I really lose a lot of money. This will bring the ending of losing money, I will now trade with caution.

Trading groups it's cool, but don't forget about money management. This is the main reason why 90% of traders lose their deposits.

[coinerer]

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

That is a personal choice, but from my own experience, joining a VIP trading signal doesnt mean that we will earn the profits much, or even the trading signals will work, no, exactly not.
Moreover if we use them without any basic or further skills and ability about trading, moreover Future trading, this will not be efective. Trading signal is only as a support to be sued for consideration, not for the only one to use the signal to trade.
That is why eprsonally I prefer to stop using it and leave Future trading because that was very not suitable for me. And for those who are new, it is better not only to use trading signal,moroever the free one.

By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

[rojan]

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or  access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much  
That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

Just being said, the signal groups have nothing to do with us and are even hard to understand especially if we are new to trading. If we are aiming to learn who to trade with, joining these groups is not a good idea, we'd rather spend $100, do trading by ourselves, and learn from it. Because what does these signal groups to us only ask for money without thinking if we are able to get what really we wanted to happen, and I don't think that was their concern as well. And in the end, we are just a losser.

New people who want to trade should first get good experience and then trade.  First of all, if someone wants to trade with a snap decision, he will lose first.  For this the first thing he needs to do is trade with advice from good experienced people here I don't think he will ever lose.  So he must first have a good understanding of the cryptocurrency market.  After that he has to trade otherwise he will face many problems.

[Silberman]

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

That is probably what they think but people need to use their common sense more often or they are going to be scammed over and over again in this market, they need to ask themselves what will they do if they had the skill to trade the markets and make money at will? Do they really think that they will spend their time trying to convince people to follow their advice for free or for a small sum of money or will they spend their time looking at the charts all the time so they do not lose a single trading opportunity? And it is obvious they will choose the second option instead of the first one.

[kotajikikox]

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or  access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much  
That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

Just being said, the signal groups have nothing to do with us and are even hard to understand especially if we are new to trading. If we are aiming to learn who to trade with, joining these groups is not a good idea, we'd rather spend $100, do trading by ourselves, and learn from it. Because what does these signal groups to us only ask for money without thinking if we are able to get what really we wanted to happen, and I don't think that was their concern as well. And in the end, we are just a losser.

New people who want to trade should first get good experience and then trade.  First of all, if someone wants to trade with a snap decision, he will lose first.  For this the first thing he needs to do is trade with advice from good experienced people here I don't think he will ever lose.  So he must first have a good understanding of the cryptocurrency market.  After that he has to trade otherwise he will face many problems.

there is nothing wrong from losing when we are beginners because this will add experiences to what we did wrong and use it to not happening again , and also those chances are way to improve our attitude and mindset in market like this in which very volatile.
there are some of us who have lose many times before starting to earn and I am one of those. so expect losses but also learn from it.

[Kelvinid]

there is nothing wrong from losing when we are beginners because this will add experiences to what we did wrong and use it to not happening again , and also those chances are way to improve our attitude and mindset in market like this in which very volatile.
there are some of us who have lose many times before starting to earn and I am one of those. so expect losses but also learn from it.

And the sad reality is that we first suffered losses, and commits mistakes before we realized our wrongdoings. Though we don't want this to happen, unfortunately, we can't also escape this from happening to us. Just like it happen to you, I have had several losses as well in my trading life which sometimes put me down and even think about quitting, however, I realize that there are no sweet rewards if we don't suffer difficulties. Facing these things makes us think wisely and make us stronger to accept what are the results even if it was not what we wanted to happen.