BITCOIN IS NOT DEAD!

[Odusko]

This is a constant thing and to them Bitcoin is always dead but yet bitcoin keep soaring higher, the proof of work have constantly been under attack due to it energy consumption, and most anti Bitcoin are basing their agreement on that factors to discredit Bitcoin and it scalability attempt. Most of the anti Bitcoin crusades are based on the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining on the atmosphere and the concerns of Bitcoin energy consumptions. That is why there have been attempt to move ethereum from the pow concessions to proof of stake which is said to be less energy and eco friendly. All this is just an assumptions any ways.

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[Fivestar4everMVP]

CZ of binance admonished the bitcoin community to see Every Bitcoin Is Dead Headline As a Buying Opportunity.
So personally, it's doesn't matter what anybody say about Bitcoin, people are free to air and are also entitled to their opinion, and such as "Bitcoin is dead" comments or posts is not something new, it is something many people have said even when bitcoin was way cheaper than it currently is, yet amid all this opinions, price of bitcoin still increased significantly, so this shows that anybody opinion of bitcoin doesn't really drive it, when its time for bitcoin to reach a new all time high in price, it will happen.

[wagmi]

Unfortunately, I have sent you a Merit because I expected a good debunk of BSV's topic but you topic is full of lies, where you support RuZZian war crimes and you downplayed Holocaust.
It's sad, I have not read your bullshit Kremlin propaganda before giving out a Merit.

I'm the one exposing arguments.

You are spreading disgusting Kremlin propaganda and downplaying Putin's war crimes what he is doing in Ukraine. 

You’re the one insulting and disqualifying with the typical derogatory adjectives. It is evident who cannot keep his manners and discuss as a normal, educated person. Nothing new.

I'm not insulting anyone but you are insulting people in Ukraine, people suffering from Putin's war. Imagine you have to fear every night to get bombed, when going outside, you can get bombed any second.
It is what Putin is doing to Ukrainians.
Putin is a war criminal.

Don't talk about manners, when you are literally downplaying Putin's war crimes!

And my original post is perfectly center in the issue. There is no energy problem that will affect BTC mining. That’s the center point of my argument.

It is not, your text is just some nonsense, lies and bullshit compilation. It's a praise of Putin and declaring RuZZia as a victim, while RuZZia is bombing Ukraine.
It's not related to BTC except because Putin was banning BTC recently for normal people.
I beleived it's a good topic about Bitcoin and was tricked into giving you a Merit, which you don't deserve at all!

Then it was Russia, France, Germany, and many others falsely accusing Jews. Now it is the US, UK, and many others accusing Russia for anything that goes wrong with them.

Your history is not correct here. You comparisons are disgusting because Russia is not a victim. Ukraine is victim. And who’s offender? Who's bombing Ukraine? – It's RuZZia!

Jews were victims, when Nazi Germans tried to eliminate all Jews. It was a horrible crime and you are abusing it for your misguided pro Putin propaganda. Russia is not a victim. Russia is offender by invading Ukraine and killing Ukrainians.

It is exactly the same phenomenon that happened with the Jews from the late XIX to the mid XX century. This time, US craziness won’t go as far as exterminating Russians, thank goodness.

Your history is wrong again, US did not cause Holocaust. It was Germany and I can tell you it was not nice because I'm also from Germany. We should learn from it and never start a war again, stand up against dictators like Putin.

But like in Nazi Germany, many Germans supported Nazis, now in Russia, many Russians are supporting Putin and Rashism, which is Russian fascism. And you have also supported Putin. We should stand up against Putin and expose his crimes.
You are abusing your flawed Holocaust excuses for your misguided pro Putin propaganda. Literally, Putin is a Russian fascist.
Do some research about Rashism.

Get some information, what Putin is doing in Ukraine. He has destroyed Mariupol, a very large city of Ukraine, 500k inhabitants. Mariupol is ruined because Putin bombed and invaded it, large parts of Mariupol are completely destroyed. Now, only 150k people are still left because so many parts of Mariupol are destroyed.
It's not just Mariupol, Putins rashists have destroyed many cities in Ukraine.

Please stop supporting RuZZian war crimes and do your own research, not blindly trust in Putin propaganda!

Russia has already won this war. Every single part of Ukraine already under control of Russia will never be turned back.

Please take your meds, you need it. 

[dark1234]

Unfortunately, I have sent you a Merit because I expected a good debunk of BSV's topic but you topic is full of lies, where you support RuZZian war crimes and you downplayed Holocaust.
It's sad, I have not read your bullshit Kremlin propaganda before giving out a Merit.

I'm the one exposing arguments.

You are spreading disgusting Kremlin propaganda and downplaying Putin's war crimes what he is doing in Ukraine. 

a touching title :
BITCOIN IS NOT DEAD! in the post on : September 04, 2022, 02:04:07 PM
AND
Some say Bitcoin is dead but Bitcoin is not dead in the post on : September 04, 2022, 05:03:22 PM

       a good topic to talk about even though it has the same meaning between the two.
and an argument about the Russia-Ukraine war I hope both of them are better off not cornering each other and more mature in dealing with differences....
and of course when someone gives merit,he has read and believes the topic is a topic that deserves an award, without looking at other posts outside the topic....
and for someone who responds to a conflict/war between countries: it would be nice to speak more wisely and provide a review that is realistic and actual so that it can be trusted, if possible include a link about the news so that our argument is stronger and does not seem to blame and corner

[Vaskiy]

While searching for the list of bitcoin's death orbituary, came across this information from a website. This provides with the yearly list on bitcoin's death. For all those who believe with the death of bitcoin can find the information of bitcoin's death.

Bitcoin Obituaries

[JaimeAlejandro]

More on why BTC mining won’t be affected by any prefab “energy crisis”... so it is far from dead.

Please, guys, read this article: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/whats-happening-ukraines-occupied-nuclear-plant. This read will give you an overall view of how much of this “energy crisis” is pure warmongering and invention.

Check out how much of the “information” (misinformation) published by Western media people is believing. Well, do not need to read the article that has no interest at all, and you will find the contradictions in the first paragraphs. Read the comments! Nobody is deep throating US war propaganda, not even in the US. Most of these comments are US Americans commenting and pointing out the article as pure garbage.

Media is trying make us believe that the Russians, who have occupied militarily the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant are shelling it! Russians are stupid and they occupy a nuclear plant and then, they shell themselves! Inside the comments there’s one saying that this is precisely why nobody is believing Ukrainians, and this is why support for them has gone South.

It needs guts and a feeling of absolute superiority over the rest, poor retarded inferior beings, to publish this and think that we are going to believe it. If that sense of superiority over the rest of us is not one of the main attributes of Nazism, what is it? This type of Western media articles is precisely what it is making almost impossible to debunk Russians accusations of Nazism in Ukraine and the countries supporting their non-democratic regime.

And ZeroHedge is between those US American media who still have a critical stand. Imagine what the other mainstream media might be publishing. They don’t publish. They vomit. Just open your mouth and swallow. It is disgusting.

[JaimeAlejandro]

In order to understand how the US has created this “artificial energy crisis” and why EU countries are supporting it, just look at this chart of the EUR/USD:



The EUR started tumbling down in May 2021. They need an excuse for the plummeting EUR, and even if it costs human lives in Ukraine, or leaves all Northern Europe without heat this winter, or it causes many companies in the EU to go bankrupt, or workers lose their jobs, they just don’t care. Everything is Russians fault (substitute “Russian” with “Jews” and you are reading a 1926 post… same argument, different scapegoat).

Meanwhile, the RUB that got affected initially by sanctions against Russia, recovered and it has increased a 26% its value respecting the USD. It looks pretty stable to me:



Remember, this is a USD/RUB chart. USD is in the numerator and the RUB is in the denominator, so when the chart goes down, numerator is losing its value respecting the denominator (USD is loosing value respecting the RUB).

So, sanctions are doing absolutely nothing to Russia. They are destroying the EU. US knows it and is trying to bankrupt the EU, so citizens go nuts and the EU crumbles down in internal conflicts. If it causes a full war that allows the US to sell more guns, the better. With allies like the US, who needs enemies?

As I have already exposed before, this is how the US got from absolute bankruptcy in the late XIX century to accumulate 75 % of world capital at the end of WWII. They want to repeat it. And EU politicians just don’t care. I guess they already have bought their mansions in Florida.
 
And BTC mining will not be affected by this in any way, as it was not affected by the war in Syria, or Yemen, or any other US promoted war anywhere else to fatten US American military industrial complex on the expense of US middle class, and the citizens of those countries that are destroyed with these wars.

[wagmi]

Check out how much of the “information” (misinformation) published by Western media people is believing. Well, do not need to read the article that has no interest at all, and you will find the contradictions in the first paragraphs. Read the comments! Nobody is deep throating US war propaganda, not even in the US. Most of these comments are US Americans commenting and pointing out the article as pure garbage.

You are publishing misinformation because you are brainwashed from Putin's state television.
A list of some points, where Putin has lied, because Putin is a liar:
- Putin has lied, whe he said he will not attack Ukraine because he said "Russia is a friendly country". He said it 2 days before he invaded. Well, we know it was a LIE because Putin is a fascist.
- Putin has lied when he said, he won't kill civilians. Currently, estimated are around 10k killed Ukrainian civilians by RuZZian orks.
- Putin has lied, when he said Zelenskij has no support from Ukrainians.
- Putin has lied, when he said Russia is welcome in Ukraine. Russia has no support in Ukraine at all. In reality, Ukraine don't want to become Putin's puppet state.
- Putin has lied, when he said he is caring for Donbas population: in reality he's sending Donbas population to the frontline, forcing all men into is stupid war.


Putin is not caring for anyone, his only goal is to win his stupid war. He is using brainwashed people like you for spreading his disgunsting propaganda. You are a victim of his propaganda.

Please do your own research and you will detect many more lies from Putin.
You can read about Putin targeting civilians here: https://kyivindependent.com/national/russian-missiles-strike-kyiv-apartment-and-kindergarden-in-photos


Days of Putin friends brainwashed from Russian propaganda are numbered.
Many Telegram groups have exposed how Russian is losing ground in Ukraine and Russian war supporters are fuming.  
Russia seems to be losing quickly.

But I have very bad news for you and your dictator Putin: Ukraine is starting to fight back against RuZZian opressors and RuZZian occupation of Eastern Ukraine AND Crimea will be over soon.
In first place, Putin should stop using his troops a cannon fodder against Ukraine and stop his stupid invasion!

It will be funny to see, which excuses Putin will make up.  
Like his ammunitions depots are frequently exploding from "bad maintenance".  
Putin is really a stupid liar.

And ZeroHedge is between those US American media who still have a critical stand. Imagine what the other mainstream media might be publishing. They don’t publish. They vomit. Just open your mouth and swallow. It is disgusting.

You are disgusting here, supporting Russian fascism and Russian war crimes!
What's wrong in your head to make excuses for Putin's war crimes?  

So @JaimeAlejandro, stop supporting Russian fascism, called Rashism. Stop supporting fascist dicator Putler in a free Bitcoin forum! Bitcoin is against dictators like Putin, Bitcoin is against war!
Putin will be brougt to court and get his punishment!
History will condemn all Putin and war supporting rashist, brainwashed gnomes!

You will go down in history same like Hitler's supporters!
Better admit your mistake now and stop making excuses for Putin's war crimes!

[wagmi]

and of course when someone gives merit,he has read and believes the topic is a topic that deserves an award, without looking at other posts outside the topic....

It was my mistake, when I have been too fast because OP abused his headline to get attention but later in his topic, he's presenting excuses for Russia's war wrimes against Ukraine.
I will review all future posts more carefully to avoid giving Merit to war supporters. 

[davis196]

The process of Bitcoin mining wastes around 0.6% of the global energy.
The world is not in a energy crisis. There are enough oil, gas and electricity to cover the global demand at an affordable price.
The three main factors causing energy prices to go thru the roof are:
1. The so called "Green deal" in Europe and all those green fanatics, who want to dump nuclear energy and fossil fuels completely, because it will "save the planet".
2.The money printing machines of the Federal Reserve and the other big central banks around the world.
3.The sanctions against Russia (I'm not a fan of Putin).
There's no point of wasting our time with the Anti-Bitcoin and pro-Ethereum FUDsters. They will keep preaching their nonsense.

[JaimeAlejandro]

Thanks guys for commenting and keeping my topic alive!

[GideonGono]

For me Bitcoin would never die it has faced so many ups and downs before but it is still kicking.
I don't know how many times I have heard something like this whenever Bitcoin is having a downfall we would hear so many negative comments about Bitcoin.

[justdimin]

The process of Bitcoin mining wastes around 0.6% of the global energy.
The world is not in a energy crisis. There are enough oil, gas and electricity to cover the global demand at an affordable price.
The three main factors causing energy prices to go thru the roof are:
1. The so called "Green deal" in Europe and all those green fanatics, who want to dump nuclear energy and fossil fuels completely, because it will "save the planet".
2.The money printing machines of the Federal Reserve and the other big central banks around the world.
3.The sanctions against Russia (I'm not a fan of Putin).
There's no point of wasting our time with the Anti-Bitcoin and pro-Ethereum FUDsters. They will keep preaching their nonsense.

It is not a "saving the world" in quotes, it is actually saving the world for sure. I mean you could believe that the world is in danger or not, but you could believe that it is cleaner, there is no fact disputing that, renewable energy is cleaner and why wouldn't we want cleaner world?

What would make it so bad if we had a world where we didn't hurt the world we live in? Why is that so bad? I agree that financially it is not possible as of right now, but moving towards that small by small doesn't sound like a bad thing neither.

Plus, the climate change is something we all have been warning about, and yet nobody does anything about it, when there are fires all around the world and oceans rise to a level where cities are gone, will it be okay if you just came here and say "sorry I didn't believe it"? That would be too late and it is not enough, we do not want you to realize your mistake, we want to prevent you from realizing it.

[dunfida]

For me Bitcoin would never die it has faced so many ups and downs before but it is still kicking.
I don't know how many times I have heard something like this whenever Bitcoin is having a downfall we would hear so many negative comments about Bitcoin.

Not really something new which whenever we do see a declining market then lots of people do freak out and do keeps telling that this is the end of Bitcoin or even with this market without even trying to look back over

decades time on how this market did behave out specially with Bitcoin which does have its price to be moving whether going up or down.Everything is really just part of a normal phase of a market.

We cant really just be having a single way or path in regarding with price or into its movement.It is really just people been freaking out whenever this market do really make out those
dumping season or declining market without even realizing that this moment are the best time to get yourself into.

[JaimeAlejandro]

The process of Bitcoin mining wastes around 0.6% of the global energy.
... the climate change is something we all have been warning about, and yet nobody does anything about it...

The fact that a lot of people agrees in something that’s does not make it true. We’ve seen in history times when everybody agreed in that the Earth was flat. It was not.

This “climate change” theory is in the realm of what I call “modern anthropocentrism”. This is the idea that looks to allocate humans as the center and most important entity of the universe.

First, humans are not the center of the universe and do not have that power. As much as this “climate change” religion wants human activities to be blame for changes that have always happened along the history of the Earth, there’s no data to confirm or demonstrate anything. It was the case of ancient religions that blame plagues and many other natural disasters on humans having too much sex. Well, I do not discuss other people’s beliefs, but this is what it is. Do not call it science.
 
No, there’s no data to prove any “climate change”. Another different thing is that those “scientists” have been bought to defend these theories and whose budgets depends on linking every single “scientific study” to climate change. At the most, data started to be collected 90 years ago. Withing an Earth history of around 4.500 billion years, 90 years does not represent a considerable amount of scientific data to extract any conclusion. It represents 2 x 10^-9 of the total time history of the Earth. Would you give credit to any study that came out supported with this proportion from the total of data available in any other field? You wouldn’t and if you would, you do not understand how science works.

Respecting to the engineering side of the discussion, the so-called renewables cannot provide on their own electricity to cover demand. Renewables produce electricity independently from consumption peaks. This means, that they can be producing a lot of energy when nobody is consuming, so you must throw it away (derivate it to the ground); or when consumption is really high, they may be not producing at all (no sun, no win, etc.). Therefore, we always will need a base load that cannot depend on external factors (gas, nuclear, carbon, biomass, geothermal, hydro, etc.), that can be turn on and off on real demand needs. This is where BTC mining fits in as an ancillary service to the electrical grid.

There are a lot more factors, like distribution, electrical frequency, voltage, transformations. Electrical production and distribution are still nowadays one of the most complex engineering processes ever invented. Transitioning to one system to another does not only depend on the wish of consumers, politicians or, basically, people who do not understand how electrical grids work and why they have electricity at home. We never ever had so many engineers working on solutions before. People should humble down and wait for them to come up with whatever might work.

[worle1bm]

You will generally see hundred of such articles and fake claims like btc is dead in the bear market even when the btc is not going too much down so what else do you expect from them? Most of the time shitcoin holders and whales try to spread the FUD about it so the panic sellers buy some of those coins seeing it's going down but they don't realise the altcoin rally is dependent on btc growth only.So we have seen these dead propoganda for years so not to worry a lot about it.

[aquafinewater]

Mostly People claiming that bitcoin is dead has been a long standing thing, Most of the time shitcoin holders and whales try to spread the FUD about it so the panic sellers sell her all investment due to this market goes down

[danherbias07]

I would not be much affected by whoever made the other thread that bitcoin is dead. That's all bullshit so they can step in and steal all the supporters of Bitcoin. Why? Simply because they inherit the name in their fork coin and it will confuse people on where they will plant their new investment. Now, thinking it is them, it is a chance they are willing to take. So, creating FUD about Bitcoin is their priority because of the thought of being next in line which is pure imagination. They are not even in discussions of the top crypto competition.
They will use every tool, every hole they can find just to debunk Bitcoin.

[haasanjui]

Bitcoin is not dead it is still alive but it is Cryptocurrency and their is no any prediction of its Price that how and when its price got down and high. Cryptocurrency run in 2 trends bull and bear. It is bear season that's why Cryptocurrency is getting lower. But bull season is near and BTC will break their past records in the coming season.

[yohananaomi]

Bitcoin is not dead it is still alive but it is Cryptocurrency and their is no any prediction of its Price that how and when its price got down and high. Cryptocurrency run in 2 trends bull and bear. It is bear season that's why Cryptocurrency is getting lower. But bull season is near and BTC will break their past records in the coming season.

looks like what you say that bull season is near, seems very hard to prove and true will happen in the near future or for this year. since many analysts don't see that there will be any significant changes this year, simply not dropping bitcoin below $10K is already an achievement in itself so when indeed the bull market is getting closer, the price is not far behind for the increase to run quickly. when it will happen that renewable ATH will not take a long time and can happen soon, because what you say that bitcoin will break the record for renewable ATH will definitely happen and indeed not this year maybe not next year, always be patient for the next halving .