[ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Heavyweight Battle of Britain - FURY vs JOSHUA

[JollyGood]

Tyson Fury has told Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua they have until Monday 26th September 2022 to sign the contract for the fight otherwise he will walk away.

Fury is obviously agitated and upset because he is desperate to get in the ring and beat either Usyk or Joshua but he is being hampered. Fury made every possible offer including date options and a 60/40 share of the fight purse because he desperately wanted to fight Joshua.

Fury said "If you want to play the game, come to the banquet and take your seat", you have laugh at the lines Fury comes out with  

Here is another: "Sign the contract, I'm going to smash your face in"  

Hearn made it clear Joshua will not be signing the fight contract, his excuse was there was not enough time to do various things before signing. That shows Hearn and Joshua as being frightened to accept the offer when he said "No chance".

Joshua later clarified he will sign the contract but not on Monday (tomorrow) but he did not say when he will do it either but claims the fight for 3rd December 2022 will go ahead  

This clearly shows Joshua is trying to escape getting in the ring with Fury because he simply is not good enough to beat him and he does not want to have a record showing three consecutive losses. He probably would jump at the chance of fighting Fury in a unification fight if he was not beaten by Usyk but those days are over. It looks like this is probably the only opportunity Joshua was going to get to fight Fury and he was too scared to take it.

Fury was right when he said: "I'm not waiting around for some guy who's lost three of his last five fights. He's lucky that I'm giving him a world title shot. If not he'll have to wait a long time to get another one.

"I don't mind chucking him a bone. But I don't want him to start dictating [stuff] to me. He is an invited guest at my party. My rules. So if you want to play the game, come to the banquet and take your seat. If not, go to your own banquet."

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[Bananington]

Tyson Fury Says Anthony Joshua Fight Is Off After Contract Deadline Passes
The fight is officially off the table now as Anthony Joshua's side did not sign the contract before the deadline. People will see AJ as a coward, but it doesn't matter, fury would have used him for practice and ruined his career the more.

Mahmoud Charr is now the next option for Fury.
Tyson Fury will announce Mahmoud Charr fight if AJ fails to sign

[coin-investor]

Tyson Fury Says Anthony Joshua Fight Is Off After Contract Deadline Passes
The fight is officially off the table now as Anthony Joshua's side did not sign the contract before the deadline. People will see AJ as a coward, but it doesn't matter, fury would have used him for practice and ruined his career the more.

Based on the article you provided he will eventually sign the contract but of course, talks are different than having your signature on the contract, AJ's legal team is looking into the contract but Fury's giving him a fair share of the purse and a title bid what more can he ask for.

If he will not sign I back up his decision because this fight could send his career into oblivion, it's a very risky fight for AJ he can come back later to build his reputation and add more skills to get his motivation up again.

[wxa7115]

Tyson Fury Says Anthony Joshua Fight Is Off After Contract Deadline Passes
The fight is officially off the table now as Anthony Joshua's side did not sign the contract before the deadline. People will see AJ as a coward, but it doesn't matter, fury would have used him for practice and ruined his career the more.

Mahmoud Charr is now the next option for Fury.
Tyson Fury will announce Mahmoud Charr fight if AJ fails to sign

Even if I think the majority of the boxing fans think that Joshua has almost no chance of beating Fury, there is a big difference between losing above the ring and losing before even getting above the ring.

To me this is even more damaging for Joshua, the fight with Fury is exactly what he needs to try to rebuild his career, plus the money being offered was good too, what else could Joshua possibly want? The only other possibilities that he may have is to fight Wilder or Ruiz, and neither of those two fights is going to be as good as a fight with Fury.

[OgNasty]

Even if I think the majority of the boxing fans think that Joshua has almost no chance of beating Fury, there is a big difference between losing above the ring and losing before even getting above the ring.

To me this is even more damaging for Joshua, the fight with Fury is exactly what he needs to try to rebuild his career, plus the money being offered was good too, what else could Joshua possibly want? The only other possibilities that he may have is to fight Wilder or Ruiz, and neither of those two fights is going to be as good as a fight with Fury.

Ya, I don't think Joshua matched up well against Fury at all.  I think he probably would have lost and had a very long night while doing so.  I can understand why for his career's sake, he didn't want to do it.  Although I'm not sure he can get more money elsewhere.  If it's about getting paid and going about your day, I think he should've taken the fight.  The fact he didn't makes me think he believes he's still got a long career ahead of him in boxing.

[yazher]

Ya, I don't think Joshua matched up well against Fury at all.  I think he probably would have lost and had a very long night while doing so.  I can understand why for his career's sake, he didn't want to do it.  Although I'm not sure he can get more money elsewhere.  If it's about getting paid and going about your day, I think he should've taken the fight.  The fact he didn't makes me think he believes he's still got a long career ahead of him in boxing.

I think, right now this is the only good fight available for Fury because he has already done with Wilder anyway. Now he really needs to beat this guy and continue to just simply earn a win. Maybe this is not a bad fight at all because we know Joshua has some skills that will gonna make the fight interesting and entertaining to watch. Hopefully, he won't get down easily and will manage to survive until the final rounds.

[hilariousetc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lS_eVNthFw

Looks like the fight is still possibly on. According to Tyson himself Dazn, BT Sports and ESPN have all agreed a broadcasting deal and in my opinion that was going to be the biggest stumbling block as all parties will want their fare share of the pie which was probably a difficult thing to do. Not sure what is holding the contract back from being signed now though. Fury seems to have capitulated on a lot according to the video and if he's to be believed. Hearn as been MIA all week from interviews so hopefully he gives an update soon.

[TopTort777]

Mahmoud Charr is now the next option for Fury.
Tyson Fury will announce Mahmoud Charr fight if AJ fails to sign

Is this a joke? Who is Charr, and who is Fury? I think Fury can take several Mahmoud Charr's during one event; Charr will be just an appetizer for Fury. Mahmoud Charr hasnt faced a good boxer in his career, had 3 year pause in his career and lost to a cruiserweight by KO. And that guy is willing to face current top1 boxer in the world ? The only person who wants that fight is Charr and money is his only motive.

[Baofeng]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lS_eVNthFw

Looks like the fight is still possibly on. According to Tyson himself Dazn, BT Sports and ESPN have all agreed a broadcasting deal and in my opinion that was going to be the biggest stumbling block as all parties will want their fare share of the pie which was probably a difficult thing to do. Not sure what is holding the contract back from being signed now though. Fury seems to have capitulated on a lot according to the video and if he's to be believed. Hearn as been MIA all week from interviews so hopefully he gives an update soon.

Good, and I do agree that network sponsorship or at least broadcasting is a deal breaker for any fight of this magnitude. So if they are mature enough to sit down and discussed as to who is getting what kind of percentage, then Fury and AJ can be made.

So if we are going to believed everything here, the ball is on Hearn and Matchroom and see what will be their counter offer. Hearn has been in the media recently though so for sure he will pop up to either contradict or confirm what has been said here.

[Fundamentals Of]

If Joshua couldn't handle Usyk, I don't know how he could also solve a harder opponent as Fury. In the first place, Joshua couldn't probably put down as huge an opponent as Fury. And if Fury could survive the very powerful punch of The Bronze Bomber, then he could also easily survive a Joshua punch. Second, if the fight will last the distance, then Joshua could still be in a disadvantageous position because he is probably losing air faster than Fury.

[hilariousetc]

Mahmoud Charr is now the next option for Fury.
Tyson Fury will announce Mahmoud Charr fight if AJ fails to sign

Is this a joke? Who is Charr, and who is Fury? I think Fury can take several Mahmoud Charr's during one event; Charr will be just an appetizer for Fury. Mahmoud Charr hasnt faced a good boxer in his career, had 3 year pause in his career and lost to a cruiserweight by KO. And that guy is willing to face current top1 boxer in the world ? The only person who wants that fight is Charr and money is his only motive.

A nobody. It's obviously just an easy tune up fight to keep the ring rust off before the Usyk fight next year. Nobody wants to see it though but it's probably who Tyson will fight if this AJ fight doesn't get sorted. According to Charr he signed a three fight deal to fight under Queensbury so Warren will probably just use him as a journeyman for his fighters.

If Joshua couldn't handle Usyk, I don't know how he could also solve a harder opponent as Fury. In the first place, Joshua couldn't probably put down as huge an opponent as Fury. And if Fury could survive the very powerful punch of The Bronze Bomber, then he could also easily survive a Joshua punch. Second, if the fight will last the distance, then Joshua could still be in a disadvantageous position because he is probably losing air faster than Fury.

I think it is a tougher challenge on paper, but sometimes fighting someone the same size has it's advantages. Usyk was much smaller and very agile, so harder to hit. Tyson and AJ are almost identical in stats, though Fury does have very small advantages is size and reach etc, but I think AJ will be able to hit him easier than Usyk. There's bad blood between Fury and AJ and has been for a long time, and Fury has only been adding fuel to the fire recently with the insults so that could maybe spur AJ on. AJ will also know that this is his chance to redeem himself so hopefully he doesn't waste the opportunity and fights like his life is on the line. AJ doesn't even need to win the fight as most people are expecting him to lose; all he needs to do is give a great performance and that will be enough for most. If it's a close fight they'll probably immediately call for the rematch as well, especially if it makes a fuck tonne of money, which it probably will. If this fight happens then they already have the deal for the rematch in there with a 50/50 split so it will be very easy to get sorted.

[coin-investor]

If Joshua couldn't handle Usyk, I don't know how he could also solve a harder opponent as Fury. In the first place, Joshua couldn't probably put down as huge an opponent as Fury. And if Fury could survive the very powerful punch of The Bronze Bomber, then he could also easily survive a Joshua punch. Second, if the fight will last the distance, then Joshua could still be in a disadvantageous position because he is probably losing air faster than Fury.

Joshua will have to present himself well in the conferences he is the heavy underdog here and he needs to make people believe that this is his another chance to become a champion, but anyway I looked at it he's not going to win here, Fury just wants him to be another feather on his cap, Joshua has no advantage over Fury, he will have to get that earphone he loves to carry when he is in front of Fury, Fury will give him a lot of dose of thrash talks, I hope Joshua can stand the thrash talks, he is not only the king of a gypsy but also the king of thrash talks

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

If Joshua couldn't handle Usyk, I don't know how he could also solve a harder opponent as Fury. In the first place, Joshua couldn't probably put down as huge an opponent as Fury. And if Fury could survive the very powerful punch of The Bronze Bomber, then he could also easily survive a Joshua punch. Second, if the fight will last the distance, then Joshua could still be in a disadvantageous position because he is probably losing air faster than Fury.

Style could be contrasting though, so it's really hard to see how it will turn out and in paper it seems that Fury has all the advantage, power, speed, skills. But who knows, Joshua's back is against the wall, he need to make a good fight and win. And if this is going to be his defining moments, then he could win and pull one of the biggest upset. Let's wait for the official announcement. We have been waiting for this fight to happen many years ago and despite losing 2 to Usyk, maybe Joshua has still something in him as the stake is bigger here.

[Boristhecat]

Today on the news I saw Charrs trash talk who is outraged that Fury will continue negotiations with Joshua's team. Looks too fake, looks like it's just a blowing up the hype(an attempt haha) before this miserable fight. Now I am 95% sure that they will try to sell us this "super" Fury-Charr fight.
However, I was initially skeptical about the fact that the Fury-Joshua fight could be organized so quickly, so no surprise.

[Welsh]

I'm a fan of Fury, probably my favourite boxer. Although, it's hard to defend him when he's doing exactly what I dislike about boxing. The big fights just never happen, and it's exhausting. Also, the fact that he fake retires every other week. It gets exhausting. This is exactly the reason I looked to MMA, because at least the big fights happen, and they happen frequently.

I always assumed it was the promoters that were behind it, but it does seem Fury's just playing games, and having fun in his own head. At least Joshua looks like he wants to get the business done, despite being a heavy underdog. I don't know if this is an attempt to drum up attention for the fight by Fury, but he doesn't even need to sell this event. This is a classic among British fans, and assuming that's where it's likely to end up being at, there's very little publicity that actually needs to be done.

I don't know what to make of it, but it's exhausting, and highlights exactly what's wrong with boxing.

[aioc]

I'm a fan of Fury, probably my favourite boxer. Although, it's hard to defend him when he's doing exactly what I dislike about boxing. The big fights just never happen, and it's exhausting. Also, the fact that he fake retires every other week. It gets exhausting. This is exactly the reason I looked to MMA, because at least the big fights happen, and they happen frequently.

I always assumed it was the promoters that were behind it, but it does seem Fury's just playing games, and having fun in his own head. At least Joshua looks like he wants to get the business done, despite being a heavy underdog. I don't know if this is an attempt to drum up attention for the fight by Fury, but he doesn't even need to sell this event. This is a classic among British fans, and assuming that's where it's likely to end up being at, there's very little publicity that actually needs to be done.

I don't know what to make of it, but it's exhausting, and highlights exactly what's wrong with boxing.

It's hanging now, it looks like the fight will not push through, and based on the statement of Joshua they have done their thing but Fury just pull out of the fight, we need to hear Fury's side of the story, he is the one that offers the fight he sent the contract and maybe because of waiting too long he just wants to make it happen anymore, we'll see the development of the talks Fury can go back because this will be an easy fight for him.

[TopTort777]

Mahmoud Charr is now the next option for Fury.
Tyson Fury will announce Mahmoud Charr fight if AJ fails to sign

Is this a joke? Who is Charr, and who is Fury? I think Fury can take several Mahmoud Charr's during one event; Charr will be just an appetizer for Fury. Mahmoud Charr hasnt faced a good boxer in his career, had 3 year pause in his career and lost to a cruiserweight by KO. And that guy is willing to face current top1 boxer in the world ? The only person who wants that fight is Charr and money is his only motive.

A nobody. It's obviously just an easy tune up fight to keep the ring rust off before the Usyk fight next year. Nobody wants to see it though but it's probably who Tyson will fight if this AJ fight doesn't get sorted. According to Charr he signed a three fight deal to fight under Queensbury so Warren will probably just use him as a journeyman for his fighters.

But wasnt Fury the one who mentioned retirement first, then he challenged AJ, spoke about Usyk. And now he accepts to to keep the ring rust off with Charr? I barely see any logic behind this all. You want to fight best or try to scare with retirement, and now we see a fight against Charr. Now we get info from AJ that Fury pulls of the fight... Boxing is turning into Santa Barbara. But I guess this is all due everyone just want a bigger cheque.

[btc_angela]

Mahmoud Charr is now the next option for Fury.
Tyson Fury will announce Mahmoud Charr fight if AJ fails to sign

Is this a joke? Who is Charr, and who is Fury? I think Fury can take several Mahmoud Charr's during one event; Charr will be just an appetizer for Fury. Mahmoud Charr hasnt faced a good boxer in his career, had 3 year pause in his career and lost to a cruiserweight by KO. And that guy is willing to face current top1 boxer in the world ? The only person who wants that fight is Charr and money is his only motive.

A nobody. It's obviously just an easy tune up fight to keep the ring rust off before the Usyk fight next year. Nobody wants to see it though but it's probably who Tyson will fight if this AJ fight doesn't get sorted. According to Charr he signed a three fight deal to fight under Queensbury so Warren will probably just use him as a journeyman for his fighters.

But wasnt Fury the one who mentioned retirement first, then he challenged AJ, spoke about Usyk. And now he accepts to to keep the ring rust off with Charr? I barely see any logic behind this all. You want to fight best or try to scare with retirement, and now we see a fight against Charr. Now we get info from AJ that Fury pulls of the fight... Boxing is turning into Santa Barbara. But I guess this is all due everyone just want a bigger cheque.

It's really crazy out there, with all the hype and then all the news releasing in the social media that you really don't know who to believed at this point. Hearn and Joshua says that they are willing to sit down and negotiate, and now it seem the fight is off? Who's fault it is? And then we have a nobody trying to be the next big time in Heavyweight and Fury is going to fight him? Why not Fury just go with his retirement, until either Usyk or Joshua is available instead of fighting Charr?

[Welsh]

It's hanging now, it looks like the fight will not push through, and based on the statement of Joshua they have done their thing but Fury just pull out of the fight, we need to hear Fury's side of the story, he is the one that offers the fight he sent the contract and maybe because of waiting too long he just wants to make it happen anymore, we'll see the development of the talks Fury can go back because this will be an easy fight for him.

I'm not all that interested in what their side has got to say, just get it done. Anything else is just going to annoy me, and the rest of the fans I'd imagine. I'm not interested in the politics I just want this fight to happen. Personally for me, and I think I've said this before I want this fight more than the Usyk fight. That fight I'm not even all that excited for. I'd ideally like both, but I think I'm being a little bit optimistic considering these fights always take months at a time, and a whole bunch of chatter on the side.

Usyk will probably fight Wilder before Fury, and that fight will probably take an age to make. I see Usyk actually losing that one too.

[Fundamentals Of]

If Joshua couldn't handle Usyk, I don't know how he could also solve a harder opponent as Fury. In the first place, Joshua couldn't probably put down as huge an opponent as Fury. And if Fury could survive the very powerful punch of The Bronze Bomber, then he could also easily survive a Joshua punch. Second, if the fight will last the distance, then Joshua could still be in a disadvantageous position because he is probably losing air faster than Fury.

I think it is a tougher challenge on paper, but sometimes fighting someone the same size has it's advantages. Usyk was much smaller and very agile, so harder to hit. Tyson and AJ are almost identical in stats, though Fury does have very small advantages is size and reach etc, but I think AJ will be able to hit him easier than Usyk. There's bad blood between Fury and AJ and has been for a long time, and Fury has only been adding fuel to the fire recently with the insults so that could maybe spur AJ on. AJ will also know that this is his chance to redeem himself so hopefully he doesn't waste the opportunity and fights like his life is on the line. AJ doesn't even need to win the fight as most people are expecting him to lose; all he needs to do is give a great performance and that will be enough for most. If it's a close fight they'll probably immediately call for the rematch as well, especially if it makes a fuck tonne of money, which it probably will. If this fight happens then they already have the deal for the rematch in there with a 50/50 split so it will be very easy to get sorted.

I think it is only on paper that this match will be a competitive one. In reality, this match is most probably lopsided in favor of Fury. This might end up like a fight between a lion and a donkey. I guess the truth is that Joshua doesn't belong to the class of Fury.

In terms of stats, I don't consider them identical. 3 inches in reach advantage for example is significant enough. Especially in size, it's not only a very small advantage that Fury has over Joshua. He's a much bigger man.

I agree that Joshua only needs to show a great performance against Fury. That he'll be defeated is almost a guarantee, so he only needs to prove that he's worth an opponent. But a 50/50 purse split for a potential rematch is not going to happen.