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November 15, 2022, 07:59:07 PM
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Hi everyone, i trust ya all having a great day...

Like the subject of this topic say, its a question i am putting out to you all, as a member of the gambling community, what do you think can be done to reduce the gambling related issues like --


From one article i was reading this morning, the UK government officially stated that there are more than 409 suicides a year in England which results from gambling problems.

Here is a quote from an article i read this morning --

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On a summer’s day in 2015, Joshua Jones put on his suit and headed to his gleaming office block overlooking the Thames in London.

It was the trainee accountant’s day off, but he was in turmoil after gambling away most of his monthly pay and an annual bonus. He told a friend he needed to “pop into the office”. He took the lift to the top floor of the block in the early evening and jumped to his death. He was 23.

Martin Jones, 72, Joshua’s father, said: “To people who worked with him, he was the life and soul of the party, but he was living a double life as a gambler. He felt despair that he could not control the addiction.”

From the same article, i learnt that --
Liz and Charles Ritchie (whoever they were before now), founded the gambling with lives charity organization after their Son, Jack, took his life in 2017 due to gambling addiction.

Majority in the UK, last year(2021) called on the government of UK to place a total ban on gambling ads.

Now I do not know if this ban on gambling ads was or has been unforced in the UK, but my question now is,
\if the UK goes ahead to enforce the ban on gambling ads in the country, you think this will reduce the number of suicides, and other gambling related problems in the country?
\Do you think banning gambling ads is a good measure for the entire government of the world should enforce? will this really stop people from gambling?
\In your own opinion, what measures do you think is appropriate to take that will help reduce the issues, gambling related problems cause in our society?

Lets discuss.
 

Gambling is like anything in life, if you do it in small and controlled amounts then you can use it like any other form of entertainment. However there is always going to be a natural trigger in anyones mind that you have lost money and it is painful to lose money, because it can extend into feelings of stupidity and wastefulness. It can also be super easy to spiral out of control when you reach that point and you end up throwing lots of good money after bad in an attempt to recoup it - when the odds against you are static. One potential way to cap runaway losses, which are some of the most extreme scenarios, is to potentially limit a player to $10 at the beginning, then only allow them to double their max deposit every day after that, but also keep a regulator connected to it which says you cannot spend more than your average spend in the last 7 days either.

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November 15, 2022, 08:10:23 PM
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I’ve never thought of suicide as a gambling related issue. I think there has to be more going on in someone’s life than losing a game in order to push them over the edge. In fact, I’d have to think you’re going through some serious issues to gamble to the point it would have an effect on your life. I think if you are noticing negative repercussions from your gambling habits, you should find another source of entertainment. 
That's right suicide cannot be linked to any particular habit or anything you do for fun, suicide is your mental state that makes you aggressive and extreme about any particular thing in life.  Gambling is something people do for fun, yes sometimes that can go over board and you loose huge amount in Gambling but that doesn't mean you should end your life, like I said before it's your mental state that makes you depressed and low and makes you feel like now its your end and there is no solution to this problem which in real life is impossible as all problems comes with a solution. 
Everyone should have balance and mental stability in their life to avoid such issues.
This doesnt really only limit into gambling problem situations but in overall things that could really affect you hardly specially on your emotions + your mental state.If you are a type of person whose weak
and really that impulsive when it comes to these things then you might really be ending up on suicide.

There are people who arent really good on handling out their emotions specially on the time where big problems had been experiencing. If you couldnt bare up the stress or the feeling on being down
then you would really be thinking up on getting your life.

This do really involved on mental and emotional state which is something that you do need to overcome and adjust accordingly.Be adaptive and be not that too
sensitive so that you wont really be thinking up this way.

I agree that controlling emotions is important in gambling, but you need to be clever and have strong money management skills so that you do not make such losses in gambling which may lead to suicide attempts.

No matter how strongly you can control your emotions, if you lose a big amount in gambling, you will become depressed. This depression may lead to things like suicide. If you know anyone in your nearby friends who is depressed by loss in gambling, you should talk to him and take him to a physicist before he attempts to do anything silly like hurting himself or suicide.

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November 15, 2022, 09:12:15 PM
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No matter how strongly you can control your emotions, if you lose a big amount in gambling, you will become depressed. This depression may lead to things like suicide. If you know anyone in your nearby friends who is depressed by loss in gambling, you should talk to him and take him to a physicist before he attempts to do anything silly like hurting himself or suicide.

In fairness, these persons that can strongly control their emotions during gambling will really have stressful moments but I'm sure they can avoid being depressed, at least in most cases. If these people lead to depression then they are not that really strong but rather they just might be claiming that they can handle the big loss. Gambling really turned people into something worst that's why anyone should really think twice before risking money here as even a small amount to consider, once lost, can give a person stress feeling.

But honestly, sometimes that stressful feeling leads other people not to try again doing gambling. I hope that will be the most case we will see.

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November 15, 2022, 09:20:43 PM
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A ban on gambling advertising can work effectively by raising awareness among people about the dangers of gambling, especially if they have a gambling addiction. But if it is not accompanied by self-awareness from people, it will be meaningless because people will easily find a place to gamble and return to gambling. This will not reduce the problem of gambling or gambling addiction problem because people are not aware of it and maybe the government can make a better approach to the people so they can be aware of it and leave gambling.
Banning on gambling ads will never work if the gamblers still chose to gamble because they have enough money to gamble. But if the government will be tight on gambling ads and will strictly imposed it over the gamblers, I think it will create a big effect on part of the gamblers, and even reduce the chances to become addicted in gambling. The government and the people in such community should work hand in hand about this.

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November 15, 2022, 09:30:06 PM
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There isn't much to be done honestly, as the gamblers themselves should know whether or not they're already crossing a point of no return. All other people can do is to warn them of the possible negative effects of too much gambling. Ads advocating against gambling won't stop any gambler honestly, similar to how negative ads are already placed on most cigarettes yet people aren't deterred in using them. It's a mental and psychological disorder that the gambler themselves, or anyone close to them, should know before any action can be done—at least in my opinion.
Definitely, the only way to reduce gambling addiction and its related issues is through the gambler itself. No other people can stop him or prevent him from gambling addiction if he is also determined to continue what he’s been doing. Maybe the family members can offer some help but it’s only up to there, because at the end of the day if the gambler refuse to accept the help, then he will continue ruining his life with gambling addiction.
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November 15, 2022, 09:34:43 PM
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Kids were taught about good touch and bad touch to keep themselves from harassment. This is a measure followed all around the world as a way to educate as well as a precautionary measure. Through the learning provided big change is experienced all around the world. The same could apply for gambling.

At certain age the younger generation needs to be taught about the consequences of gambling. It shouldn't be taught as like a big crime. It need to be taught in such a way to have limits and even if something have happened worse they should have the mind to share with friends and family. This could make them stay away from the thoughts of suicide and other forms of self harming.
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November 15, 2022, 09:49:19 PM
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I often see a news about suicide connected to gambling addiction although depressed or other mental health issues are the common cause of suicidal thoughts. It has a very small chance of getting a suicidal thoughts if a person control his/her self especially when losing too much. Some gamblers don't know when to stop until they ran out of money due to excessive gambling but suicide is not always the answer for that, I'm sure there are other things bothering them why people have to do it.

It's always better to find someone to talk to if you felt too much from the inside since staying alone will always bring you closer to the bad thoughts. Stay with someone you can trust that will listen and help you not just with your gambling addiction but with your mental health too.

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November 15, 2022, 09:57:02 PM
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There isn't much to be done honestly, as the gamblers themselves should know whether or not they're already crossing a point of no return. All other people can do is to warn them of the possible negative effects of too much gambling. Ads advocating against gambling won't stop any gambler honestly, similar to how negative ads are already placed on most cigarettes yet people aren't deterred in using them. It's a mental and psychological disorder that the gambler themselves, or anyone close to them, should know before any action can be done—at least in my opinion.
Definitely, the only way to reduce gambling addiction and its related issues is through the gambler itself. No other people can stop him or prevent him from gambling addiction if he is also determined to continue what he’s been doing. Maybe the family members can offer some help but it’s only up to there, because at the end of the day if the gambler refuse to accept the help, then he will continue ruining his life with gambling addiction.
Proper counselling an addicted gambler will also help in preventing their suicidal tendency, when an addicted gambler losses massively and become bankrupt thus such a person needed to be closely monitored and counselled properly mostly by a very close family member, however it's becomes difficult if such a gambler does it anonymously without revealing the huge losses to a close relative except if the relative consciously notice it else such an gambler is liable to commit suicide, above all it's advisable to gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose to avoid touching stories.

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November 15, 2022, 10:46:21 PM
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Proper counselling an addicted gambler will also help in preventing their suicidal tendency,
Many people are suicidal these days, when new members are about to register in a gambling site and casinos, they can include a form that questions how susceptible an individual is to suicidal thoughts so they can determine the limit that they would be allowed to gamble as a way to control their loses.

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November 15, 2022, 11:45:08 PM
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Proper counselling an addicted gambler will also help in preventing their suicidal tendency,
Many people are suicidal these days, when new members are about to register in a gambling site and casinos, they can include a form that questions how susceptible an individual is to suicidal thoughts so they can determine the limit that they would be allowed to gamble as a way to control their loses.
Filling a form just like you have mentioned does not make a gambler to ignore coming suicide which can be based on so many things. Having consecutive loses without any winnings cam make a gambler to think of coming suicide especially when they have a soft mind without no hope. Some persons that gambles do that with borrowed funds maybe from a friend or bank with with hope of paying back. Since they can not pay due to big loses, they might think of coming suicide which could be a better option for them to escape the insult they will get from the source of their fund.

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November 15, 2022, 11:50:54 PM
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Many people are suicidal these days, when new members are about to register in a gambling site and casinos, they can include a form that questions how susceptible an individual is to suicidal thoughts so they can determine the limit that they would be allowed to gamble as a way to control their loses.

That will even make users not to signed up anymore on that site. Why should a gambling site consider doing that?

We are the ones who can control our fate in gambling. We are the only ones who can make ourselves responsible at all times.

Simply just don't do gambling if a person doesn't understand the risks they are taking into.

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November 15, 2022, 11:59:57 PM
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I think there's no need to be done to reduce gambling related issues. Even the government is serious about this policy, they can't control people emotions. Maybe just trust the process that those gamblers will not become addicted on the process. And as much as possible, try to build lots of gambling rehabilitation centers for others to know that there such establishment like that in order to help those people who are now under the spell of gambling addiction.
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November 16, 2022, 12:32:48 AM
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\In your own opinion, what measures do you think is appropriate to take that will help reduce the issues, gambling related problems cause in our society?
One of the few solutions that I think could help against gambling is having a strict registration process and continuous KYC checks, it's likely not that effective but having different solutions that could slowly chip away at the entire problem if it means that it'll discourage some gamblers. Casinos having a smaller betting limit for new players would be helpful as well, most gamblers might brush the limit aside but the initiative of having a limit could help them tone down their gambling activity.

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November 16, 2022, 02:07:20 AM
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Hi everyone, i trust ya all having a great day...

Like the subject of this topic say, its a question i am putting out to you all, as a member of the gambling community, what do you think can be done to reduce the gambling related issues like --
  • Substance Misuse problems
  • Depression
  • Personality Disorder
  • Fear and Anxiety
  • Obsessive-compulsive Disorder (OCD)
  • Bipolar Disorder
  • Attention Deficit/hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)

Lets discuss.
 
first is that family/friends helping hand , this will bring big part in prevention or reducing gambling related suiciding because I believe that addicted gamblers need personal affection and trust in which Only those closest people can bring.


Second is professional help, this needs to be more precise and effective to help the people indeed.

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November 16, 2022, 02:11:30 AM
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I mean I think it's like with anything, if you allow for vices to be legal, which of course means more accessible, people who can't control their vices are always going to have a hard time doing so and when it's that much easier to get, more people are going to be effected by it, simple as that.  However with that being said I believe in freedom and even though with freedom will come great pain and suffering for many, it allows for a much better life for so many more.  Let people do what they want if it's not hurting anyone else but themselves.

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November 16, 2022, 03:21:28 AM
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ety/2021/jun/16/majority-of-public-support-total-ban-on-uk-gambling-adverts-poll-finds]total ban on gambling ads[/url].

Now I do not know if this ban on gambling ads was or has been unforced in the UK, but my question now is,
\if the UK goes ahead to enforce the ban on gambling ads in the country, you think this will reduce the number of suicides, and other gambling related problems in the country?
I don't think so, the most powerful advertising or marketing is word-of-mouth marketing which is why casinos are offering generous rewards for recruitment gambling ads are just one of the marketing

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\Do you think banning gambling ads is a good measure for the entire government of the world should enforce? will this really stop people from gambling?

not it will not work people basically are a gambler and their love for gambling will not stop them even if they do not see any odds they can do research to satisfy their needs


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\In your own opinion, what measures do you think is appropriate to take that will help reduce the issues, gambling related problems cause in our society?

The government should educate and make its citizen know the harms of being compulsive gamblers and warn them to gamble moderately, education and moderation is the key not stopping what's inherent in them.


 

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November 16, 2022, 03:36:14 AM
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Professional help is the key.

The victim himself may not be the one who voluntarily seeks it that's why casinos themselves should be sensitive of the behaviors of their clients. If they could easily detect suspicious cheating behaviors, they should also invest in detecting suspicious addiction behaviors. Aside from this, they should also be installing desks, offices, booths, or hotlines that have professionals always ready to assist individuals who are facing addiction tendencies.

Of course families and friends should also be more vigilant, open, and accommodating to what everyone else is going through. They could detect if a close family member or friend is going through some serious addiction problems. They should be the one to seek help for him.
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November 16, 2022, 04:00:51 AM
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Professional help is the key.

The victim himself may not be the one who voluntarily seeks it that's why casinos themselves should be sensitive of the behaviors of their clients.
this is what they must be but since this is business they care nothing in reality  because the more addiction they become is the more profit  enters their pocket.

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If they could easily detect suspicious cheating behaviors, they should also invest in detecting suspicious addiction behaviors. Aside from this, they should also be installing desks, offices, booths, or hotlines that have professionals always ready to assist individuals who are facing addiction tendencies.
Love it all , this is something innovative to have all gambling sites specially helpdesks .
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Of course families and friends should also be more vigilant, open, and accommodating to what everyone else is going through. They could detect if a close family member or friend is going through some serious addiction problems. They should be the one to seek help for him.
yes, but the problem is that if the said gamblers keep Hiding his behavior and activities so family can no nothing for them to help.









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November 16, 2022, 04:44:42 AM
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Professional help is the key.

The victim himself may not be the one who voluntarily seeks it that's why casinos themselves should be sensitive of the behaviors of their clients. If they could easily detect suspicious cheating behaviors, they should also invest in detecting suspicious addiction behaviors. Aside from this, they should also be installing desks, offices, booths, or hotlines that have professionals always ready to assist individuals who are facing addiction tendencies.

Of course families and friends should also be more vigilant, open, and accommodating to what everyone else is going through. They could detect if a close family member or friend is going through some serious addiction problems. They should be the one to seek help for him.

Professional help can cure those who are addicted to gambling. I know it would be expensive, but I think it is difficult to cure your addiction with just yourself since there are times that you can't control it, and eventually, you'll be getting back to gambling. With the help of psychologists and other professionals, they can give you therapy and other things to do so that you can't think about getting back into gambling. When his parents or family notice something is wrong with him, they should be the first to bring him to a psychologist because it is difficult for him to go to the psychologist.
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The challenge we have here is that we can't control the entire gamblers all over the world at the same time since the gambling sites were also different from each other and every gambler has the choice to choose from his comfort the suitable and most preferred casino to use, i would have suggested a widely campaign against such abuses that comes along with gambling, but having a coordinate organization of the state of affairs in gambling isn't that an easy job to do but the government in it own way has regulated some oart of this challenge but not to zero level to curb the violence thereafter, i also think this is more a personal issues than public or general one since we have people commiting suicide or any other even without being a gambler.

Then people personally has some work to do for themselves if those gambling ads and site's can't be banned then people should focus on something serious especially with their life's. Some quick advocating about the disadvantage and how it drains the soul also especially to the much younger ones and generation so they be guided as they go, although it's more better if they btry and fail then change for better
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