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September 08, 2022, 11:07:47 AM
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Aside from them having no use cases...

* Price of one token will automatically decrease when there's a flood of free tokens getting into markets and scarcity of the token decreases.

* Even if you look at it from the point where your bag wouldn't necessarily lose value as in whole, as it too is increasing with the circulating supply there's one thing you forget, and that's traders. Traders use altcoin or fiat money pairs to do technical analysis, and it obviously will look bad when the trader sets the targets. That would mean that charters would need to use marketcap graph to find a bullish TA and probably no one would even bother to do that as very few do it now.

* Rebasing as a solution is worst possible as it eats away the whole idea of having high interest from staking in the first place.

So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?


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September 08, 2022, 12:02:11 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
It's because there is a market for them. They won't be back if there's no market for them but due to those investors that are eyeing them and thinking that they can profit from them, they come back. There's no solution for that but the investors will eventually have to turn away from them when it's no longer profitable and for the side of these project makers, they'll just revert the attention of their investors by doing some updates or making a new project that will look interested to the same investors that they've got.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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September 08, 2022, 12:06:26 PM
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Simply these mediocre project are the product of developers that want quick profit in the market of crypto. They feed on the money of dumb traders that always taking risk on this kind pump and dump project. They are the ponzi of crypto an using the smart contract and cheap website to create cheap project for there token. These tokens will keep coming back as long as there’s a trader buying it.

This is the norm on crypto and we can’t dictate dumb traders to not buying this kind of bullshit tokens because they have there own bullshit reason to lose there money.

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September 08, 2022, 12:50:27 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
Because of hypes? Projects becoming liquid if there is and community saw it. Traders ride with it based on the possible and safest factor a project shows. Like a good chart and has a plausible parameters to gain such movement. Even though there isnt use case, I doubt traders are checking those things aside from the bullish direction of the chart and some indicator pointing to the path of gains. Thats how the system works.

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September 08, 2022, 01:06:54 PM
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Lol, I created a similar thread on the local board to address this issue. What I found is that all of the coins with high inflation and even with auto staking/rebasing, all ended up in the dumpster. With too many circulating supply, it would be extremely difficult to pump the price.

It's funny how people think LUNC (Luna Classic) can be a $1 token without extreme burning. The formula is easy, market cap = supply * price. Just input any price you think is achievable and look at its market cap, you can then judge whether it's rational or not.

While coins must be a serious project, probably for the "get rich quick" scheme, tokens can be just for fun, especially if these were built on top of a cheap chain.

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September 08, 2022, 04:20:00 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
One reason, these kind of tokens created by scammers. look at how a token called trident gets dumped so hard. that was also making the price to go to the bottom. Im sure that people aware about this too. The inflation token will be only giving benefit to the early buyers but these buyers are also risking their money to buy the garbage token like that. I think that people aware if these days these kinds of token not even worthy to be bought.
They were starting to avoid to deal with the inflation token like that. Mostly of inflation tokens affiliated with the scammers. Scammers issued these tokens.

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September 08, 2022, 04:37:05 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
One reason, these kind of tokens created by scammers. look at how a token called trident gets dumped so hard. that was also making the price to go to the bottom. Im sure that people aware about this too. The inflation token will be only giving benefit to the early buyers but these buyers are also risking their money to buy the garbage token like that. I think that people aware if these days these kinds of token not even worthy to be bought.
They were starting to avoid to deal with the inflation token like that. Mostly of inflation tokens affiliated with the scammers. Scammers issued these tokens.

And as long as there are naive people who are willing to take that risk to invest in this high inflation crypto, the process will continue. And I guess that is the nature of open market, I mean everyone is free to do whatever they want. But the problem is, there are a lot of people behind this kind of project who just thinks of many money by scamming a lot of investors. And for the investors, don't patronized this kind of business model because it will not succeed based on the past history of other cryptos, it will surely failed.

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September 08, 2022, 09:44:20 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?

They keep coming back on the market because for DEVS, creating such kind of project is easy money.  Most of the project that produces high inflation emission often use it to bait investors into investing in their project telling them that their investment of x money that will receive y amount of token can emit or produce a profit by thousands of percent in a short span of time.

People will never learn and those who profited in this kind of scheme will always jump into it even though the succeeding investment will be losses.

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September 08, 2022, 09:49:29 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
They are making money out of those projects and because many are still falling on those kind of projects, they are motivated to continue scamming people. Only if everyone is knowledgeable enough to spot if the project is fake right away, I’m sure those developer will not come here. No one can control this, if there’s a hype and there’s a trend for that kind of token, expect to see more of that but again not all is meant to last so be careful on choosing where to invest.
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
It's because there is a market for them. They won't be back if there's no market for them but due to those investors that are eyeing them and thinking that they can profit from them, they come back. There's no solution for that but the investors will eventually have to turn away from them when it's no longer profitable and for the side of these project makers, they'll just revert the attention of their investors by doing some updates or making a new project that will look interested to the same investors that they've got.
It is really that simple, for people like us it doesn't really make a lot of sense that coins that are completely useless and that we know have no future keep disappearing and then reappearing with a new name but with the same characteristics, but at the end it is a matter of demand.

This is similar to what happens with illegal drugs, we know about all the side effects that they produce on your body and how bad they are for your health, so in a perfect world there would be no demand for those substances, but instead we see the opposite, people want them and since that is the case someone is willing to supply them, and shitcoins follow the same logic, they are completely unnecessary and they are bad for your economic health, but since people want them then someone is willing to supply them.

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September 09, 2022, 02:49:31 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?


It seems interesting. If I'm not mistaken The reason many people continue to buy tokens with big inflation is that first, the market takes time to finally realize this and then react. The problem has been identified for years now in several projects, there are still investors continuing to buy and the second possible reason is speculation. Most investors don't understand the nature and purpose of their investment or they see someone promising 100x profit then they keep buying and hope to find this unicorn token that will give them 100x profit when it goes up to the market cap.



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There is no way that people just give away free tokens because they know what is going to happen eventually and thus I do think that your concept of free tokens is coming from 2009 when we used to watch an advertisement and collect our bitcoins, you should understand that if a company is willing to spend loads to maintain a stable price then they ofcourse won't really try and sell it for cheap.

Plus these over expensive tokens are always in the circulation because they usually have a strong backing and people have invested loads in them thus they don't expect them to be plunged out in the dark that soon.

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September 09, 2022, 09:45:36 PM
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So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?
It's because there is a market for them. They won't be back if there's no market for them but due to those investors that are eyeing them and thinking that they can profit from them, they come back. There's no solution for that but the investors will eventually have to turn away from them when it's no longer profitable and for the side of these project makers, they'll just revert the attention of their investors by doing some updates or making a new project that will look interested to the same investors that they've got.
It is really that simple, for people like us it doesn't really make a lot of sense that coins that are completely useless and that we know have no future keep disappearing and then reappearing with a new name but with the same characteristics, but at the end it is a matter of demand.

This is similar to what happens with illegal drugs, we know about all the side effects that they produce on your body and how bad they are for your health, so in a perfect world there would be no demand for those substances, but instead we see the opposite, people want them and since that is the case someone is willing to supply them, and shitcoins follow the same logic, they are completely unnecessary and they are bad for your economic health, but since people want them then someone is willing to supply them.
Just like the market, they're also in a cycle and understands the market cycle. They'll be back with a brand new name and with the same proposal just as their old projects that have worked for. And for these projects like pumping right now, they're all hype-based and there's nothing special with them.
It should be like investors shouldn't buy these projects so that they will realize that no one is buying anymore whatever they do but the problem is, no matter what they do, there will always be those buyers and investors and traders that will follow them.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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It is really that simple, for people like us it doesn't really make a lot of sense that coins that are completely useless and that we know have no future keep disappearing and then reappearing with a new name but with the same characteristics, but at the end it is a matter of demand.

This is similar to what happens with illegal drugs, we know about all the side effects that they produce on your body and how bad they are for your health, so in a perfect world there would be no demand for those substances, but instead we see the opposite, people want them and since that is the case someone is willing to supply them, and shitcoins follow the same logic, they are completely unnecessary and they are bad for your economic health, but since people want them then someone is willing to supply them.
Just like the market, they're also in a cycle and understands the market cycle. They'll be back with a brand new name and with the same proposal just as their old projects that have worked for. And for these projects like pumping right now, they're all hype-based and there's nothing special with them.
It should be like investors shouldn't buy these projects so that they will realize that no one is buying anymore whatever they do but the problem is, no matter what they do, there will always be those buyers and investors and traders that will follow them.
And there is not much we can do about this, we may try to warn people about the dangers of investing in those coins but since they believe they can make a fortune with those coins they will refuse to listen to us.

Then once they lose their money they may be more willing to listen to us, but since at the time their most fervent wish will be to recover their money and we cannot help them with that, and we may even remind them there is no way to recover their coins, then even in those circumstances they will not be very willing to listen to us, and there is the possibility they could make the same mistake once again as a result of their negative attitude.

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September 16, 2022, 04:57:23 AM
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It's because there's a market behind them whether that market was inflated by behind-the-scenes stuff or natural, most likely the former though. It's almost always newbie investors that get hit, maybe some regular investors get hit as well but they're more on the testing everything around type so it wouldn't be odd for them to invest on some bad coins.

See no matter the number of investors that get hit by these hype coins, they'd always be replaced by new investors since there would always be people who would enter and try investments, and well, we all know how newbie investors get easily hit by these types of projects. Heck these projects might actually be specifically for newbie investors in a sense.

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Aside from them having no use cases...

* Price of one token will automatically decrease when there's a flood of free tokens getting into markets and scarcity of the token decreases.

* Even if you look at it from the point where your bag wouldn't necessarily lose value as in whole, as it too is increasing with the circulating supply there's one thing you forget, and that's traders. Traders use altcoin or fiat money pairs to do technical analysis, and it obviously will look bad when the trader sets the targets. That would mean that charters would need to use marketcap graph to find a bullish TA and probably no one would even bother to do that as very few do it now.

* Rebasing as a solution is worst possible as it eats away the whole idea of having high interest from staking in the first place.

So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?




Not necessarily, Ethereum is the prime example of that, without any cap of it's maximum supply people still believe in it, and now it already reach more than 122M of total supply, and I believe that many people has made profit out of Ethereum, other example is ADA / Cardano the current circulating supply is 34B, and the max cap is 45B, it is now a top 10 coin in Coinmarketcap. There are many other factor beside coin supply, the maximum or circulating supply is indeed have and effect on token price but it's not that significant.

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It's because there's a market behind them whether that market was inflated by behind-the-scenes stuff or natural, most likely the former though. It's almost always newbie investors that get hit, maybe some regular investors get hit as well but they're more on the testing everything around type so it wouldn't be odd for them to invest on some bad coins.

See no matter the number of investors that get hit by these hype coins, they'd always be replaced by new investors since there would always be people who would enter and try investments, and well, we all know how newbie investors get easily hit by these types of projects. Heck these projects might actually be specifically for newbie investors in a sense.
Newbies aren't the only targets, there are investors which are simply too stubborn for their own good, if they believe there's a way for them to earn money with those coins then they'll keep investing in them even if they know those coins don't have a long term future which is promising at all, and even if they were to lose all their money they'll still believe someday they'll earn big, even if the evidence and their experience is telling them otherwise.
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Aside from them having no use cases...

* Price of one token will automatically decrease when there's a flood of free tokens getting into markets and scarcity of the token decreases.
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This is not only the basis, you should consider a lot of things not only how their token economics works.
This token economics is just a part of identifying how good altcoin but this is still important though, you should identify it first.
There are some projects that their supply is quite low or decreasing or limited, but on some part of their project is not good like no use cases or product, it's still useless.

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...So why the hell do they keep coming back on the markets?...

Maybe cause they don't know as you do, most usually get blinded by high apy/apr(s). If price is $1, they will think, with such apy I'll get this much amount by this much time and I'll be set. I know cause I have been there.

And then you are mere bag holder, at $0.00001 price.


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September 17, 2022, 04:49:04 AM
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well there is coin that still made up still at least top 20 by marketcap and no use case except for meme and have unlimited supply but still got listed in bigexchange the coin called "DOGE" and their brother "SHIBA"

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