Censorship in Bitcoin online forums

[bluefirecorp_]

I recently made a post on Reddit calling out market manipulation using Bitcoin. This post was removed from /r/Bitcoin without notification or reason.

I think there is an army of bots watching certain social media sites to ensure certain topics aren't discussed.

I'll be spending a few Satoshi to embed the message in Blockchain as it's been censored on social media.

Unlike social media, Blockchain cannot be censored by bots.

This is actual utility beyond just recording transactional records.

[mk4]

/r/bitcoin(same with /r/cryptocurrency) has always been extremely controlled. If you want little to no censorship, you can simply host your own content on your own server. It wouldn't be 100% censorship proof, but the likeliness of your server host taking down your server is very slim.

[bluefirecorp_]

I knew /r/cryptocurrency had issues and I made a post long ago calling out those issues.

But I figured /r/bitcoin would have less issues...

[bluefirecorp_]

I mirrored the post here;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413141.0

[jackg]

I mirrored the post here;

It mightve been a good idea to add more references to the post if you like it and want it to get more traction around here (you don't have to but it might spark good discussion).

But I figured /r/bitcoin would have less issues...

Afaik it's a similar moderation team to here but they have to conform to reddit's standards too which is probably why it was deleted. The r/bitcoin space always looks quite dead (/much less active than here) whenever I go to it too and maybe the overmoderation has done that.

[pawanjain]

/r/bitcoin(same with /r/cryptocurrency) has always been extremely controlled. If you want little to no censorship, you can simply host your own content on your own server. It wouldn't be 100% censorship proof, but the likeliness of your server host taking down your server is very slim.

If it is just about market manipulation then why not post it here on bitcointalk itself.
Although it is moderated as well but I don't think such post would be deleted by any moderator. What do you think ?

I guess market manipulation may be happening with bitcoin but on lower levels.
It might not be happening at huge levels since that would require a lot of bitcoins.

[mk4]

I knew /r/cryptocurrency had issues and I made a post long ago calling out those issues.

But I figured /r/bitcoin would have less issues...

Always expect very heavy moderation with literally almost any subreddit, especially if the subreddit has millions of subscribers/viewers.

[Coin_trader]

I’m a regular reddit user before but there moderator bot is quite annoying when your post contains a word that match to the bot program especially on huge reddit channel because they want to limit spam as much as possible to make the channel clean. r/Bitcoin is not that strict before but since many user abused the popularity of the channel for farming karma the moderators was pushed to become strict maintain proper order. That channel is worst before the moderator decided to level up there moderating security.

Bitcointalk is the only forum that I know that allow all kind of opinion regardless of negative or positive as long as it was made in a constructive way which other forum doesn’t allow and only post that will benefit them.

Just post it on Bitcoin Discussion or Trading Discussion to save your time on sharing your content to the public.

[BlackHatCoiner]

You must have probably violated some community's terms & conditions.

I mirrored the post here;

Did you contact to the subreddit's admin?

/r/bitcoin(same with /r/cryptocurrency) has always been extremely controlled. If you want little to no censorship, you can simply host your own content on your own server. It wouldn't be 100% censorship proof, but the likeliness of your server host taking down your server is very slim.

Even more resistant to censorship if you run an onion hidden service. That's what Tor is all about anyway.

[NotATether]

I recently made a post on Reddit calling out market manipulation using Bitcoin. This post was removed from /r/Bitcoin without notification or reason.

I think there is an army of bots watching certain social media sites to ensure certain topics aren't discussed.

In reddit's case, it's not a bot army, but a couch potatoes army.

At least there is free speech in this place, even trolls are allowed to make posts here that won't get deleted. (As long as you are not writting spam or plagiarism, ovbiously).

[BIT-BENDER]

I have been using Reddit for some time and I think it works out very transparently on Reddit there are this call post karma and also comment karma, this are like badges (to make an explanation) that allows you post or comment. Some Reddit group actually take them seriously and are strict with it, there are stipulated amounts of post karma you need to have to make a post and also comment karma you need to have to make comments

Like I said Reddit is transparent and some of those group put all this in their group rules which I suggest you always read first before posting, so it really doesn't first Matter the content of your post when you don't meet up with this your post automatically get deleted. After you have passed those rules then they look it's other rules like no spamming, no trolling and so on.

You can also check the message sent to you by the moderator on the reason why your post was deleted make sure you aren't the one at fault before making your conclusions.

[fiulpro]

Who is paying for removing such topics? Is someone influencing it?
(( Most of the posts are deleted by the moderators which might be offensive or on certain topics)) most of the times you are going to find clear cut bias and which can be highly influenced by politics as well, thus when we are talking about posts concerned with " bitcoins and how big personalities can manipulate them " they are definitely going to try and save the faces of people, Reddit also banned around 2000 communities one can only post about their biases online on other platforms and wish for a more liberal democratic place for people to talk, consider this forum!

[qwertyup23]

I recently made a post on Reddit calling out market manipulation using Bitcoin. This post was removed from /r/Bitcoin without notification or reason.

I think there is an army of bots watching certain social media sites to ensure certain topics aren't discussed.

I'll be spending a few Satoshi to embed the message in Blockchain as it's been censored on social media.

Unlike social media, Blockchain cannot be censored by bots.

This is actual utility beyond just recording transactional records.

Unfortunately, Reddit has strict implementations and guidelines where they have the discretion to tag any post which they think violates their written rules and regulations. That is also one of the reasons on why this forum (bitcointalk.org) is much more bigger and reputable compared to any other forum or discussion of BTCs.

With their stringent rules, I doubt that the discussion there would be as meaningful compared here since no one can voice out their own opinions without them being tagged or the thread being deleted.

I really suggest that instead of writing your message there, create a thread here and start a discussion. People here would most likely respond and share their thoughts on the topic that you will provide.

[DaveF]

Some subreddits are more heavy handed then others. Some blatantly favor some users / views more then others.
On the flip side you can always create your own subreddit and mod it the way you like, so long as it does not violate the overall rules of Reddit.

Personally, I think reddit does work well for some things but not others. There are a few crypo subreddits that I check in on now and then that ARE heavily modded and I like it that way. We may loose a valuable post, but on the flip side you are not digging through a ton of crap trying to find something. Take a look at the altcoin / token boards here to see what happens with only minimal modding.

-Dave

[The Cryptovator]

You are talking about manipulation but they manipulate posts, interesting. However, this forum is pretty cool to discuss about Bitcoin. Your post won't manipulate unless you break forum rules. Here you will find freedom of speech. I haven't been using Reddit, so not have much experience with that, but sometimes seen how subreddit delete posts made by different projects.

[franky1]

here is the thing though

elon didnt pump and dump bitcoin

he never said things like "everyone jump in today by 3pm, bitcoin gonna fly to the moon" (typical pump and dump influencers)

elon made an announcement of buying coins in december 2020 via a financial report (legally obliged to)

and later just added a #bitcoin to twitter and said a few positive things about it. but never told people that everyone should buy in strong that day/week/month and pump the market..

it was some cryptomedia/social of other people that started a pump/dump in ~february 2021 by using musks earlier financial report, by them (other people) trying to say that he was intending/will/is going to buy in february where everyone else should too..

thus not musk himself doing the pump and dump

as for the sale in 2022. well again. what elon announced. is different to what and when crypto media announced.

as for elon doing a Doge pump and dump.. well thats a different story with a different ending.

i understand there are alot of people that not only twitter follow celebrities. but they also sheep follow and take what celebrities say too seriously like its gods words that must be followed..

it gets even worse when people follow social media/crypto media when its those "media" that say things out of date, context, but mention a celebrity name. which then people then believe without checking

if your investment/trading habits are based on social media/celebrity . your doing it wrong

[amishmanish]

I haven't seen undue moderation on reddit or any meaningful platform. Do you have any data or proof to prove that manipulation is going on in Bitcoin market, then please do share here. I think it concerns us as well.

[DeathAngel]

Any centralized website has a chance of deciding to censor you. It’s everywhere now, all over social media too. It really cranked up during covid, all that fact checker nonsense. This is the world we live in now, it’s far from just bitcoin, it’s everything. So many cry babies get offended about little things, strong minded people are now the minority.

[dothebeats]

I haven't seen undue moderation on reddit or any meaningful platform. Do you have any data or proof to prove that manipulation is going on in Bitcoin market, then please do share here. I think it concerns us as well.

I've seen it happen a couple of times, but not so often. If they don't want something on their sub, or they see that the community doesn't want that particular post live even if it's mostly harmless but it somewhat hurt the ego and the feelings of the select few, they'd gladly take it down. It's nothing new for reddit moderation, especially on niche subs that caters only to a few hundred people. They want to gatekeep their community from other people hence the strict moderation if you're not one of them.

[PrimeNumber7]

I recently made a post on Reddit calling out market manipulation using Bitcoin. This post was removed from /r/Bitcoin without notification or reason.

r/bitcoin has always been pretty strict in its moderation. I understand that posts need to be strictly about bitcoin (not altcoins).

I would also point out that online forms are typically privately owned (including those on reddit, and this forum).

If you don't mind, why don't you post exactly what you wrote? Perhaps people can judge for themselves.