Trying to find some coins from late 2008 or early 2009

[Pokapoka124]

Aside from the time frame not corresponding. What’s is most surprising is that the OP claims he still has his username and password to the site where he played videos games with those people, why come to bitcoin talk to find them when you can login to the site you met your pals and leave a message? I don’t buy this story, whatever OP true intention will be revealed in his next posts, this was the case of the user digitalmonk.

[franky1]

I don’t buy this story, whatever OP true intention will be revealed in his next posts, this was the case of the user digitalmonk.

yep.
the guy behind the usernames.,
"bitcoinmoses" appeared a couple years ago pretending he was satoshi or knew something about satoshi (though lacked knowledge of bitcoin)..

he then changed to an altname digitalmonk. trying to get to know some early adopters by "interviewing them" so he can sell their information and some story to mainstream media that he knew these guys personally and was associated with them in the past via any info he can glean from them..

now i think this new altname is him yet again. but this time trying to cause some social drama of saying some early adopter scammed him and owes him thousands of coins. to either sue them or just have some social drama to make a story to then try to sell the story to mainstream media.

either way. not original. many have tried this and got no where

scammers are bad enough. but idiot scammers are the worse. they dont even try to do any research to even sound plausible but want to spam up the forum with their narrative they made up, and willing to keep pushing it for months/years.

why is it that so many idiots think they can spend years pushing some social narrative that does not align to blockdata, code and reality.
(im not just talking about scammers. but other idiots that want to push some loyalty or association/friendship to some idols/influencers/early adopters/devs..  yet cant even get their story to align with hard data)

[KaliLinux]

Will not move on i will continue to search but was hoping for a better response. Hopefully their eyes see this post.

Hypothetically let's say you do find some sort of information about this site you are talking about, Does this mean even at the time there was no login info? that is if the site still exists and why has it taken you this long to want to get back to the site cos clearly I would say Bitcoin got a big attraction during the 2017 ATH, that could have drawn your attention then, or did you forget

[Lucius]

The OP reminds me of a story that I also read on the forum some time ago, where the user claims that he had some kind of wallet in 2009 (and maybe even earlier). In this particular case, it is still a matter of confusion because in 2009 there were no BTC wallets with seed words.

What I want to say is that people can very easily get confused and be convinced that something happened to them in a specific year, but the story presented to us by the OP is proof that it is very easy to get confused. In addition, looking for a website from that era makes no sense, and having a file that could be connected to a Bitcoin wallet is a completely different story.

[LostNfound]

Lmao Franky you remind me of the guy on the series SEVERANCE - Dylan (Zach Cherry) Jumping to conclusions and accusations Its hilarious. I hope the so called EARLY FOUNDERS read this and maybe things will click in. Not trying to take anyone for a ride here just seeing if they read this and can remember the site we used, could have some damn coin. That's it. Thank you for trying to tell me i have dementia or a case of old timers but no! I know what went down and they do to. Ill get the transaction which might take a bit and get the exact date and amount. Till then Thank you for all the help and this seems like a fantastic community!

[Lucius]

I hope the so called EARLY FOUNDERS read this and maybe things will click in. Not trying to take anyone for a ride here just seeing if they read this and can remember the site we used, could have some damn coin. That's it. Thank you for trying to tell me i have dementia or a case of old timers but no! I know what went down and they do to.

You are new to the forum, so you are not to be blamed for thinking that way - but how many people from that period do you think are active on the forum? There are a few people from 2010, and a few more from 2011, but most of the active people on the forum are those who were not aware that Bitcoin existed in 2009 or 2010. The chance that these early adopters read the forum is therefore very very small.

Maybe you recognize someone by their nickname or a new light turns on for you -> https://bpip.org/

[LostNfound]

That period! You say that like it was 100 years ago. It may be a shot in the dark but IF one of them happens to sit on the bowl and check the main bitcoin forum out then its a shot ill take. I have no idea who is on this forum at all. If i hear nothing then i know im getting the finger. They kept up the satoshi thing for a while i see lmao.

[The Cryptovator]

There are two possibilities, whether OP forgot when he bought Bitcoin exactly or trolling. It's because we can't buy things that hadn't been discovered yet. We assume it troll because you don't have any knowledge about Bitcoin birth. If so you should know when Bitcoin was born. However, if you are right and really bought Bitcoin at end of the 2009 then likely you used Bitcoin clients. So research about that if the story is real in any case.

[Agbe]

I was convinced to buy bitcoin while on a game back in late 08 or very early 09 It was a good time. I had no wallet or knowledge at the time of bitcoin. I went to a website to purchase them but do not know the site at the moment. Im not trying to jump any gun here but it was very early and if the people i was talking with are on here id love to talk! If anyone would know a site where a purchase from a person direct from one account to another or website that did at the time please let me know. Thank You

Well that means you raised up with bitcoin (started with bitcoin). But at that time bitcoin knowledge has not been spread to everyone, it was only few people and you were one the lucky therefore, since you were one of the pioneers of bitcoin which means you were one of the closest friend or you were in the bitcoin creation city that heard about bitcoin as early as possible. That not withstanding, if you would gotten it at that time by these time you would have one the bitcoin wealth personnel in the bitcoin space. But if you have the money to but it, there are a lot of site and apps you can get from p2p. Such as Binance and Remitano and also from your local bitcoiners (if there is any). The cash you have in your hand will determine the quantity of bitcoin you will need.

Another thing you have to also consider is. Your country, is it a bitcoin friendly one. If it is bitcoin friendly country then it will be preferable to get it from well known Bitcoiners but it is not not then you use online vendors either apps or sites which I have given.

[franky1]

one more time just for the clarity

there were not cryptocurrencies until january 2009
the first bitcoin blockchain transaction between 2 people was january 12th
the recipient was Hal finney(now deceased)
the first trade using a service was on october 12 2009
using "new liberty standard" in which the wbsite just listed daily price. and requested users to email the site owner with an order. and on agreement the site owner would give the user a paypal email to pay fiat. and the user would give the site owner a bitcoin address to receive the coins.

this first trade on 12th october was done by a well known user that set the first milestone of a "exchanged" price bitcoin trade

the first "exchange" that had a log-in portal to allow trading within the site was not until march 2010 called the "bitcoinmarket"
..
thus.. you could not have had some log-in username and password to some bitcoin exchange in late 2008-early 2009

END OF

[LostNfound]

I understand that you do not believe people and myself! I get it. I see people literally worship this coin. I am 100% sincere and have questions. I was not a close friend. We gamed as a group and had a blast joking. It came at a crazy time, bad time in my life and to see what it has become is crazy. (Not looking for donations Franky just stating a fact) That one site you mentioned says it came out in 2015 so that wont work.

[Altcoinsintel]

We gamed as a group and had a blast joking.

Are you sure it was Bitcoin and not Linden dollars or any other in-game token? Plenty of in-game economies existed back then.
In 2010 (or 2011), someone set up an L$ to BTC exchange inside Second Life.
You don't remember which game you were playing or the website you used to buy Bitcoin, but you are confident you remember the date. Explain this.

[BlackHatCoiner]

The first bitcoin exchange was setup by the user New Liberty Standard, at BitcoinExchange.com. There was also a site called CoinPal, where you could buy bitcoins with Paypal. Try searching these in your emails, just out of curiosity. Do not expect to gain access after so many years, and without even being sure you've ever bought or mined any.

[franky1]

I understand that you do not believe people and myself! I get it. I see people literally worship this coin. I am 100% sincere and have questions.

its not about belief.. (unlike the ploys you are tryign to attain)
its about hard data fact..

there was no bitcoin to even transfer late 2008
the first "log-in" website that allowed trading within the website. was not available until march 2010
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20.msg747#msg747
and

There are 9 people signed up but only 3 have made a deposit so far.  Myself makes 4.  Looks like we had our first real trade around noon!

..
for someone that wants to know about the history and early events of bitcoin. you are really trying too hard to ignore hard data, real events .. to only want to push your narrative that sounds like you want to pretend you knew and spoke with bitcoins creator and the first few devs of the time where you are already suggesting that they pushed/talked you into buying something that you say you didnt receive but deserve..

as evident by the hints you make in these two quotes of suggesting you are trying to get coins you pretend you are owed from a date that bitcoin was not even traded

Im saying i did not get into anything of a sort. I gamed with these guys for a bit couple hours that day and they kept on asking me to buy bitcoin and i didnt want to eventually i said alright hows this much $$! They got excited and i went forward with it. I dont game with many people and these guys were cool. it was a 100% early 2009. I did not care what so ever at the time! Ill now try getting all the proof needed. my money going from one account to another will be seen!

I know the time frame this occured i was just out of Law. Many unknows surrounding bitcoin in its early days and here i am trying to recover something I PAID FOR! AND!!!! speak to the guys who asked me to do this!

sounds like you are stupidly setting up a empty story line of trying to suggest that they owe you thousands of coins worth of value.. (via lawsuit) using your silly social drama as "proof". using what i am presuming and pre-empting to be a lame photoshopped screenshot of a fake "trade"

you are not original..

you are very very obvious with your disregard of facts and data of actual events. wanting to not bother doing the research. wasting more then 24 hours pushing your story repeatedly saying "provide proof soon" but not just staying quiet until you can actually show proof

you are as bad as CSW

now get the hint. your story does not align to fact or data..
its not a belief its a fact. your story does not line up. so get that hint.

you are not the first to try these games

some people may try to politely hint that you might have your date mixed up and pretend to help you. but that does not mean they believe you were involved and bought bitcoin on some exchange in late 2008-early 2009..

[Lucius]

That period! You say that like it was 100 years ago. It may be a shot in the dark but IF one of them happens to sit on the bowl and check the main bitcoin forum out then its a shot ill take. I have no idea who is on this forum at all. If i hear nothing then i know im getting the finger. They kept up the satoshi thing for a while i see lmao.

You are not the first case to look for your lost treasure, and I am only telling you from the experience of someone who started following this forum back in 2014. Even if there is someone who will read your post and that someone recognizes what you are talking about, do you think it is realistic to get back something that you paid $10 for, and today is worth hundreds of thousands of $?

You can hope, no one is preventing you from looking for answers to the questions you have, but in that case you should expand your search much wider than this forum. If these people are gamers, then maybe they are active on some forum that specializes in that kind of thing.

[franky1]

You are not the first case to look for your lost treasure,

he is not trying to search for his lost treasure

read between the lines.
several people have told him the hard facts about real historical events of bitcoin and (lack of)available exchanges in that era

which he has ignored(had no interest in acknowledging/accepting as truth)
he has instead doubled-trippled down that his made up narrative is the version of history he wants to follow.

his version of events do not align with reality.

bitcoin circa early 2009 was NOT:
a big community of lots of people where there were lots of "clans" of different groups doing their own private thing where they had their own private services that others didnt know of..

bitcoin circa early 2009 was:
a small community of only ~a dozen devs/geeks/coders by summer. where there were no services.exchanges. there was no big push to sell coin as there was no "value" at that point. it was more of moving coins for bug fixing and code upgrades within a small group who were the only ones that knew of it at that time.

bitcoin was not mainstream/widely known/talked about in games and social groups at that time. it was more of a geeky intriguing project. not a financial investment at that time

[tbterryboy]

The OP reminds me of a story that I also read on the forum some time ago, where the user claims that he had some kind of wallet in 2009 (and maybe even earlier). In this particular case, it is still a matter of confusion because in 2009 there were no BTC wallets with seed words.

What I want to say is that people can very easily get confused and be convinced that something happened to them in a specific year, but the story presented to us by the OP is proof that it is very easy to get confused. In addition, looking for a website from that era makes no sense, and having a file that could be connected to a Bitcoin wallet is a completely different story.

The whole bitcoin world is filled with these kind of stories. There are a lot of people who either had bitcoin or even other coins that now gotten some value after the last bull run. I have read so so so many people who didn't care about their dogecoins for example back in the day because the highest it went was like 3 cents and they didn't care bout some 50 bucks on their wallet somewhere, but when that became 70 cents that same 50 bucks was now 10 thousand dollars and they wanted to find where it is.

This is just an example on doge, there are hundreds that went up on the last bull run and this is just the non-bitcoin one, we have a lot of stories on bitcoin wallets not being able to reached anymore as well.

[franky1]

The whole bitcoin world is filled with these kind of stories. There are a lot of people who either had bitcoin or even other coins that now gotten some value after the last bull run.

no there is not
back in 2009 there were not that many people
case in point. blockchain data can tell you alot

did you know that from 2009-march 2010, that if you look at the amount of transactions done per day. yes whole days. the average transactions even as far as march 2010 was under 10 transactions A DAY

there were not that many people using bitcoin back then
it was not even thought of as an investment before march 2010
people were not valuing it as a asset to be bought and sold for fiat before march 2010
there was not even a website to log-in to do trade before march 2010

[LostNfound]

Franky is it envy or jealousy that someone has been involved with bitcoin before you or may be able to get the coins I have at a specific site? You cannot see data of coins transferred from one to another if they were mined! It was sent from one guy in a group to me and they as a group acknowledged that it went through and were excited about it. You have been going off the wall about this and maybe I can shed some light on things! Calm down and let me get proof! Working on it. This was me trying to get in contact with them and a call for help with known sites! Stop making this out to be something it’s not. IM NOT HERE TO SCREW ANYONE OVER AND I KNOW WHAT WENT DOWN. Maybe you just want the last essay/word. Go copy and paste what they said entirely! Thanks again!
👍🏻

[franky1]

again you want to ignore actual events of bitcoin history.

its not about any personal opinion or emotion.. its just plain hard facts of researchable data..

get that hint atleast!!

you have been told the actual history of bitcoin.
you ignoring actual events is a red flag that you dont care about finding anything real.

you repeatedly trying to push a silly story wont change the facts of bitcoins blockdata or events of history.

you are becoming as bad as CSW

so one last time
there was not site available offering bitcoins late 2008-early 2009 which you could have a login username or password for

the earliest site that allowed such method of trading was march 2010

(a site in october 2009 didnt have a log-in trade service. it was a price listing page where people would do email correspondence to get paid paypal and the seller would then send bitcoin to someones bitcoin address in the buyers bitcoin wallet (no 'log-in' just email chat/trade)