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September 14, 2022, 06:58:46 AM
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BitcoinMoses joined this forum in 2017, he has been claiming that he is Satoshi Nakamoto recently. I am bringing this topic up to let people know who BitcoinMoses actually his. He is just another Faketoshi.

Check his latest posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410629.msg60933903#msg60933903
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413445.msg60934240#msg60934240
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413466.msg60933979#msg60933979

He has these in his signature space:
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I am Satoshi Nakamoto
0563ce9997fb00e0b93d6e9972761ad8c7b36172ca85e1618daeff4813b1603e

I am thinking that is a public key because it is hexadecimal, I checked for the addresses, the addresses are:
14ceuJoU4CcBo1cM64kPnsrewntqfgYhfu
1dz5xLuKMQFYdCiZ16Pqq1GT7bc3qepnr, compressed.

I know anyone that wants to claim to be Satoshi has to sign a message with his private key, but I just want to ask if this addresses have any link with Satoshi Nakamoto?

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September 14, 2022, 07:14:11 AM
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he has been claiming that he is Satoshi Nakamoto recently. I am bringing this topic up to let people know who BitcoinMoses actually his. He is just another Faketoshi.

This is pretty much covered by his trust feedback, so I am not sure why you're making him even more "popular" by attracting attention over him again.
OK, I do understand your point, but I fear that attracting more attention over him is exactly what his game is about.

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September 14, 2022, 08:48:57 AM
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This stupid guy first tried to establish Thomas Phellen as Satoshi Nakamoto and failed. Check reference here- https://web.archive.org/web/20171125182539/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2403320.0
He now turned himself Satoshi. Lol. After few days, who will he try to establish as Satoshi  Cheesy
Ridiculous. I just have neg tagged him. Don’t know why people are putting neutral tag here. It’s a clear negative tag IMO.

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September 14, 2022, 09:17:17 AM
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Don’t know why people are putting neutral tag here. It’s a clear negative tag IMO.
I think users are leaving neutral feedbacks because they prolly want to use the trust system in the 'correctest' way possible, which is for trade and commerce risk, @BitcoinMoses is a blatant troll, and definitely we don't want users coming here impersonating Satoshi, but since there is no way we can stop that, maybe a neutral tag to tell people more about the user and their antics is very appropriate, since neither of the feedback is related to commerce/trade.



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September 14, 2022, 09:21:51 AM
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I think users are leaving neutral feedbacks because they prolly want to use the trust system in the 'correctest' way possible, which is for trade and commerce risk, @BitcoinMoses is a blatant troll, and definitely we don't want users coming here impersonating Satoshi,
Maybe I'm wrong but impersonating someone else is a red alert always.

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September 14, 2022, 10:28:22 AM
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Instead of continuing to respond to his thoughts as if we were still paying attention and triggering a thread bump, I think the ignore button has been provided especially for dealing with this kind of user. Tagging won't really stop a mentally ill person, even reporting posts when he's still active on forums doesn't help much.

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September 14, 2022, 11:46:54 AM
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Tagging won't really stop a mentally ill person, even reporting posts when he's still active on forums doesn't help much.
ignoring such users will only apply to you and others who are also ignoring them. whereas other members who may not know all about the account will continue to follow the bullshit.
the tag given will consider other members when they want to transact or just have a discussion with them.



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September 14, 2022, 11:49:47 AM
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Don’t know why people are putting neutral tag here. It’s a clear negative tag IMO.
I think users are leaving neutral feedbacks because they prolly want to use the trust system in the 'correctest' way possible, which is for trade and commerce risk, @BitcoinMoses is a blatant troll, and definitely we don't want users coming here impersonating Satoshi, but since there is no way we can stop that, maybe a neutral tag to tell people more about the user and their antics is very appropriate, since neither of the feedback is related to commerce/trade.
There is nothing bad to also give such user a negative trust. In my opinion, those that worth to be given negative trusts are:

  • someone that scammed you during trading
  • if an agreement went wrong and you were cheated
  • anyone that wants to scam and posting scammimg attempt contents
  • anyone that is claiming to be someone on this forum but that he is not

I will award BitcoinMoses a red trust, I will remove it once he signed a message with an address that  Satoshi used to receive the mining reward from the genesis block in the past.

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September 14, 2022, 12:40:26 PM
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  • anyone that is claiming to be someone on this forum but that he is not
Well you might be correct because impersonators more often than not take up the identity of someone else for the purpose of scamming people, so yes i know impersonation is worthy of a negative feedback, what i was trying to do earlier is prolly point out why those who gave neutral feedbacks did so.
I will award BitcoinMoses a red trust, I will remove it once he signed a message with an address that  Satoshi used to receive the mining reward from the genesis block in the past.
Lol, in other words your negative feedback is going to last forever. Grin



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This stupid guy first tried to establish Thomas Phellen as Satoshi Nakamoto and failed. Check reference here- https://web.archive.org/web/20171125182539/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2403320.0
He now turned himself Satoshi. Lol. After few days, who will he try to establish as Satoshi  Cheesy
Ridiculous. I just have neg tagged him. Don’t know why people are putting neutral tag here. It’s a clear negative tag IMO.

If you believe he deserves negative or positive feedback, that's fine; just put it and move on. You don't have to drag everyone into what you believe to be right or wrong. Since this is the internet, you should expect to see this kind of behavior, but as long as they are not endorsing a dubious project or using another person's identity to their advantage, they are just trolls. Painting such a person red would be a waste of time because it wouldn't stop him from trolling. BTW, this is the first time I've ever seen this user, maybe he's trolling on those boards on my ignore list.

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BitcoinMoses (aka DigitalMonk) is just an immature attention-seeking troll or, as someone suggested, a mentally ill person, and nothing more. I thought about giving him a negative trust because anyone who claims to be Satoshi without valid proof deserves it, but I decided that he's just not worth it and that trolls are best ignored. He is completely irrelevant, and probably much less harmful to the community than, say, a troll named Snowshow (aka Antikvark, Antithesis or Fxsurfer).

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September 14, 2022, 03:32:04 PM
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Don’t know why people are putting neutral tag here. It’s a clear negative tag IMO.

I think neutral is more appropriate, but I leave that to each individual to decide. In addition, the member in question mainly uses the Bitcoin discussion board for his posts, and in that board trust feedbacks are not visible. This makes sense from the forum's point of view, because that system is primarily used for something other than evaluating someone's personality. Unfortunately, many (including me personally) use it inappropriately in some situations.

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Some people just deserve a negative trust. It goes beyond trading. It comes back to the fact that they are actively hurting the community.

Scammers come and go, and we will never be able to catch and tag them all. But, they do tend to leave after the scam is done, or they have so much negative feedback and so many active flags that they can't scam easily anymore. People like this need to be called out each and every time they post until they leave. Ignore only works to a point, then you have to move to another method.

theymos / the mods don't want to be censors, and that is fine, we just have to keep up the pressure on the trolls because they won't ban them.

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If you ask me, this guy is a troll. I don't think he actually wants to get people to believe he is satoshi. I think he is looking for attention. I suggest that you not give him any attention.
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September 14, 2022, 06:29:11 PM
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BitcoinMoses (aka DigitalMonk) is just an immature attention-seeking troll or, as someone suggested, a mentally ill person, and nothing more.
I was about to link the connection but it seems you already mentioned it.

I am thinking that is a public key because it is hexadecimal, I checked for the addresses, the addresses are:
14ceuJoU4CcBo1cM64kPnsrewntqfgYhfu
1dz5xLuKMQFYdCiZ16Pqq1GT7bc3qepnr, compressed.

I know anyone that wants to claim to be Satoshi has to sign a message with his private key, but I just want to ask if this addresses have any link with Satoshi Nakamoto?
Isn't it funny when a random person create an address and tells he is satoshi then everyone starts looking for if he really is satoshi? There are no transaction on that address so far. Satoshi never posted such address anywhere too.

If you ask me, this guy is a troll. I don't think he actually wants to get people to believe he is satoshi. I think he is looking for attention. I suggest that you not give him any attention.
He is enjoying the attention from last few weeks.

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If you ask me, this guy is a troll. I don't think he actually wants to get people to believe he is satoshi. I think he is looking for attention. I suggest that you not give him any attention.
He is enjoying the attention from last few weeks.

In my opinion, responding to trolls is a waste of time and energy. Their only purpose is to get a rise out of you and make our forum a worse place to be, so don't give them the satisfaction. Instead, focus on what matters: making connections with people who will enjoy and value your contributions. If someone is trolling and doesn't get the response they want, they will often just move on to another forum or site.
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This is pretty much covered by his trust feedback, so I am not sure why you're making him even more "popular" by attracting attention over him again.
Agreed, this thread doesn't need to exist and should be locked so as to avoid attracting shitposters.  Satoshi isn't coming back as far as I can see (and just as well; bitcoin works best without its creator, unlike so many shitcoins out there), and if he did I'm pretty sure he'd resurrect his own account.

In my opinion, responding to trolls is a waste of time and energy.
It is, especially creating threads dedicated to a single one unless it's important (like with cryptohunter a few years ago).

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It is, especially creating threads dedicated to a single one unless it's important (like with cryptohunter a few years ago).
Oh my days! Where are those guys right now?
See it's the usual thing for the trolls. They will continue trolling and once everyone will stop responding their trolling they will disappear. This BitcoinMoses/digitalmonk and his other accounts are the same.

I assume they had an account which considered as their main account. For some reasons DT tagged it and they became angry. These accounts are just the reflection of their anger and they are targeting those users who painted them red for whatever reasons.

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If you ask me, this guy is a troll. I don't think he actually wants to get people to believe he is satoshi. I think he is looking for attention. I suggest that you not give him any attention.
The attention will not be given because in Bitcoin discussion board many people has come up with such idea that they are satoshi and it raise many discussion. Actually many of them maybe fake but if Satoshi should come now nobody will believe that it's the real Satoshi, because of alot of people impersonating with Satoshi. And for someone to believe Except it's the people who meant Satoshi when he is in the forum will know his writing style to be believe that it's a real Satoshi.
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Actually many of them maybe fake but if Satoshi should come now nobody will believe that it's the real Satoshi, because of alot of people impersonating with Satoshi. And for someone to believe Except it's the people who meant Satoshi when he is in the forum will know his writing style to be believe that it's a real Satoshi.

They are all fakes without any doubt, except for those people who believe in fairy tales and don't know that Satoshi has his own account on this forum - all he needs to do is prove that he is the real owner to the admin and he will get access to his account on this forum. The style of writing is the least relevant here, because someone a little more intelligent can very easily copy it, which does not prove that it is the same person.

I would solve it in a very simple way, anyone who appears on the forum claiming to be Satoshi would be given 24 hours to prove it or be permanently banned - such members have zero value for the forum.

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