Merit what, why

[poorman1]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

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[Charles-Tim]

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

These would be of help:

Merit & new rank requirements
Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?)

[Stalker22]

This question has come up several times on the forum. The first thing you should do is read these old topics that Charles-Tim suggested; if something is still confusing to you, feel free to ask.

And here is another helpful topic:
FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity, account ranks and merit

[Cantsay]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	1
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

By the way welcome to the forum and I hope you enjoy your stay here and I will advice you to check out this thread Beginners & Help + Encyclopedia [UPD: +Electrum Board it's a great to start from it has been of great help to me.

[OgNasty]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

If you aren't obsessed with controlling the trust network and you don't care about ranking up, there's very little benefit other than a dopamine hit I guess.  If you earn them you can also send them to others, so I'll shoot you 2 merits so you can try giving 1 away. 

I guess the main benefit is that signature campaigns pay more money the higher you are ranked, so if you make good posts and earn a high rank, you can get paid more for posting. 

[Hodoor]

I think this is the most asked question in the entire planet. you can simply google "merit bitcointalk" and you'll get dozens of similiar threads asking the exact same questions.

Have you tried googling this before making this post ?

[yahoo62278]

Merit is something that is only important for Hero rank and below. Once you reach Legendary it's completely worthless unless you consider bragging rights something worth having. Looks like OG sent you a couple and you have been given links to threads showing what merit is, so you should be able to figure it out from here.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I think this is the most asked question in the entire planet.

Are you considering the forum is your entire planet? LOL
These points have no use for anything except in this forum.

poorman1, it seems you had a good start. 2 posts, 2 activities and 2 merits. Not bad. The most important for you right now is to get to know the community instead of asking one line questions if you are really into bitcoin community.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Your nickname, OP, made me smile. You are from Pakistan, right? And your question about surviving on this forum suggests that you are most likely not a newbie, but have had the experience of being banned from the forum. It's obvious from the nickname.  
I don't know of any other forums where newbies come with similar questions. Survival on the forum, as it sounds.
I think that you have already created 4 accounts and are finally interested in the rules of the forum.
I may be wrong, but time will tell, but for now, I will show everyone the same newcomer from the Pakistani local section who received a ban three times. Furthermore, I hope you understand everything correctly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg60935937#msg60935937

Dear community

Hello community:

Hello community,

Hello community,

 

[cryptoaddictchie]

Have you tried googling this before making this post ?

I think its better to use the search function here in forum. Googling merit would have a lot of resources line up and not only about bitcointalk forum but other means to merit.

poorman1, it seems you had a good start. 2 posts, 2 activities and 2 merits. Not bad. The most important for you right now is to get to know the community instead of asking one line questions if you are really into bitcoin community.

Nice track actually but I do hope that he is a natural newbie and a curious fella asking about bitcoin honestly and not just an alt account boosting merit for farm on campaign.

[KingsDen]

Hello Poorman, let me pretend or believe that you are a genuine newcomer and let me not also refer you to other links for further reading. I understand that most newbies find it difficult to open links to read. So I will give you a direct answer in addition to what have been given you already.

My answers are in the context of the forum.

What is merit?
Merit system is a system introduced by the admin of the forum to curtail the rate of spamming in the forum, it also encourages quality posting and conversation in the forum and then enables the growth of the members in the forum in terms of ranks.

Why do you need merits
Merit is not compulsory that you must have it, but if you want to grow from one level to another you need it to be able to rank up.

How do you get merits

You get merits by making quality posts, though quality post is totally subjective because what is quality to me might not be quality to the second man below my reply.  But try your best to make posts that solve problems, answer questions and generally contribute to an ongoing discussions. With that you can be able to recieve merits. You have a good stat, 2 posts, 2 activities, 2 merits. I wish you would keep it up and not betray the kind gesture of Ognasty.

[nutildah]

I may be wrong, but time will tell, but for now, I will show everyone the same newcomer from the Pakistani local section who received a ban three times. Furthermore, I hope you understand everything correctly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg60935937#msg60935937

...I am brand new here on the bitcointalk forum.
...

(narrator): He wasn't.


It's also a tell somebody's an alt if they write any of their first 5 posts in Meta. This is where you come after you have a basic grasp of what's going on.

[Shamm]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

Wow that fast you have earn two merits already.
Hello Op Good day and welcome to the forum this forum helps you a lot to learn more things about bitcoin and other related crypto currencies. Now you are asking what are the benefits of merits? First, earning merits make you qualify to reach higher ranks.  Second,  through merits makes every user boost their effort to make some quality post or reply and also it helps to the forum to lesser spammers users.

If you aren't obsessed with controlling the trust network and you don't care about ranking up, there's very little benefit other than a dopamine hit I guess.  If you earn them you can also send them to others, so I'll shoot you 2 merits so you can try giving 1 away.  

I guess the main benefit is that signature campaigns pay more money the higher you are ranked, so if you make good posts and earn a high rank, you can get paid more for posting.  

Nice catch OG, this is the reality Words good job.

OP. Now you can enjoy your merits and try to give your sMerits if you feel that post or reply are worthy, good luck .

[Rikafip]

I think its better to use the search function here in forum. Googling merit would have a lot of resources line up and not only about bitcointalk forum but other means to merit.

Imho, using forum search option is a worst way to find anhthing on the forum, both Google and ninjastic.space are far superior.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg60935937#msg60935937

Looks like he didn't waste time and after you reported his previous account, he created another one and now that he got negative attention he will probably ditch this one and show up with a new one. Rinse and repeat, until he figure things out. Nice catch by the way!

[smartaction]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

Merit is basically a special key to up everyone profile rank. Which you will get only based on your post quality and informative .
Now let's talk about its benefits. This will up your rank.  Although activity is also required to rank up but your activity will automatically increase after a certain period of time after you post something.  So it's not a big problem. If you get many merits in a short period of time, it makes everyone think that you are a wise person . If your rank is Sr or above.  And if you have a consistent of regular getting merit history, you've more likely to be accepted into Good and Longterm Signatures campaign And these have many more benefits like these. hope you understand why need merit and what is the benefit

[rat03gopoh]

Benefits for the needs of your forum activities only: one of the requirements to open the limit of posting with pictures and reduce the waiting time to make the next post. Other benefits will depend on your intention to come to this forum.

[FatFork]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg60935937#msg60935937

Looks like he didn't waste time and after you reported his previous account, he created another one and now that he got negative attention he will probably ditch this one and show up with a new one. Rinse and repeat, until he figure things out. Nice catch by the way!

Good lord, he made his first two forum posts and is already being accused of ban evasion on his alt account. This has to be a record! 

Indeed, he seems to have exposed himself already in his first post:

Aaslam alikum community, ...

Aaslam alikum green white community!

I'm no expert, is that perhaps the Pakistani way of writing "Assalam alaikum"?

[Smartvirus]

One question that would never go old on the forum. Somehow, these gen of beginners have got the nerve to come right to meta and lay it there. I know the boards are for everybody but, some questions or subject of discussions doesn't fit better in some boards.

Anyways, there is a saying in my locality that goes
"One who asks questions, never gets to lose his/her way"

All or most of the information you need to know about merit have been given already but, I'll advice you don't make it a primary focus as there are more to the crypto journey you start here in the forum than merits. Be sure to teachable and learn from every foolish suggestion.  Critics come handy here and be sure to suck it up when your hit.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

This question has come up several times on the forum.

Several?  Man, if anyone is curious as to how many times merit has come up as the sole topic of a thread, just search the Meta section for "merit" and take a look at everything going back to January 2018.  Threads like this one have thankfully become less common in the last year or two, but there was a time when the Meta section's first page was full of them.

OP, if you ever find yourself wondering how to earn merits (because it isn't as easy as some people would have you believe), look at the post histories of some of the highest merit earners and pay close attention to how they write, what they're writing about, and--this is also important--what section they're posting in.  All of those factors in addition to how often you post will be a pretty good indicator of what it takes to earn merits.

Dammit, this info and more has already been stickied in Meta.  Don't people look before making threads like this one?

Good lord, he made his first two forum posts and is already being accused of ban evasion on his alt account. This has to be a record! 

I doubt it.  There have been members exposed so fast that it'd make me slap my head again if I could remember where to find examples to link to.  Good catch.

[Mate2237]

OP date of registration:  Date Registered: September 15, 2022, 07:43:36 PM and the OP created this thread on the same time of September 15, 2022, 07:56:44 PM, but just some minutes/seconds differences, that means what

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said is not far from the truth, because a newbie who was introduced by someone to the forum will never ask merit for the very first thread unless the person is a returned user.

By the way my Seniors have explained and some also provided threads which you would read before even asking this question to you, if you really for the forum read them. I also provide one of the useful thread for you to read. Calm down and read this... fillippone

Go & sin no more

[Dunamisx]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

I think now you've got 2 merits and have 1 sendable merit attached, the question now is hoe do you as well utilize this your single merit in giving it out on others, will you look for a quality post that has your convincing support for receiving merit or you will just give it out on any post indescriminately? You know the answer quite alright, same thing is applicable to you just as you will love to merit a good post then members are willing to see the quality standard in yours as well and got it merited, read all the provided links on merit and try to give some valuable contributions to the forum, also have this in mind.
Newbies - Read before posting

[Daniel91]

Your nickname, OP, made me smile. You are from Pakistan, right? And your question about surviving on this forum suggests that you are most likely not a newbie, but have had the experience of being banned from the forum. It's obvious from the nickname.  
I don't know of any other forums where newbies come with similar questions. Survival on the forum, as it sounds.
I think that you have already created 4 accounts and are finally interested in the rules of the forum.
I may be wrong, but time will tell, but for now, I will show everyone the same newcomer from the Pakistani local section who received a ban three times. Furthermore, I hope you understand everything correctly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg60935937#msg60935937

Dear community

Hello community:

Hello community,

Hello community,

 

If nothing else, let's hope he finally understood 
Your post really made me laugh.
In my life, I have been a member of many forums and you are really right, just to be a member of this forum, people fight with all means, and it almost becomes a matter of life and death for many 
As far as I can see, even 3 years after being excluded from the forum, some are still fighting for membership in the forum, as if their lives depend on it.
On the other hand, it is an interesting phenomenon that there is actually less and less activity and active members on this forum.
Of course, we all know the reason why this is so, and it is obvious that we will see many more questions like this about merits and progress on this forum, even though this question has been answered many times.
Guys, if you want to get something from the community on this forum, then you have to give something first, you can't get something for nothing 

[Mpamaegbu]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

At least that post of yours has shown you how merit works. It's never a cast in a stone kind of approach. Look at it, you asked two simple questions whose answers you could've easily harvested by a mere search and someone felt sympathy for you and sent you a life jacket. This is why I've continued to maintain that the merit thing is subjective, not in anyway objective. In some other threads, (even if it's on the same merit issue) the OP would've received a backlash or at best, in an embracing mode, received direction to other threads but not received any merit. Count yourself lucky on this. Now that you've been pointed to threads by others, let me quickly add that in your attempt to hunt merit; just steer clear off any forum infringements. Write to help others by making helpful comments and responses. With that, I know merit will trickle in.

[tomos81]

here Below the Hero Members, the talent of the users is very necessary. Because there is no need for legend hall or merit but we all should support everyone from among the users. Because if the big legends don't support the small users then it will never be possible for them to come forward until they become credible. That's why if you need to be credible, then you definitely need the support of legendary and big users.

[JoyMarsha]

Hello Poorman1, you now understand what merit is. Do you need more explanations?

The merit was introduced to the forum to serve as an encouragement to forum members that provide questions and answers to posts made in the forum. The two merits you just got serve as an encouragement for questions asked.

OP how do you intend to get merits? your post history shows that you are not ready to engage or make meaningful contributions to posts in the forum. You only after asking questions upon questions

 

[zaim7413]

What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

If the post/thread you make contains the terms of a quality, constructive and informative post, then you have no reason for Merit Source to skip your post with Merit.
You can also report some quality posts here:
[Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed
[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

|	RANK	|	REQUIRED ACTIVITY	|	REQUIRED MERIT	|	NOTES	|
|	BRAND NEW	|	0	|	0	|	Initial rank of users who have just registered and have not made a post.	|
|	NEWBIE	|	1	|	0	|	It takes 1 Merit to rank up to Jr. Member.	|
|	JR. MEMBER	|	30	|	1	|	~~	|
|	MEMBER	|	60	|	10	|	~~	|
|	FULL. MEMBER	|	120	|	100	|	~~	|
|	SR. MEMBER	|	240	|	250	|	~~	|
|	HERO. MEMBER	|	480	|	500	|	~~	|
|	LEGENDARY	|	775-1030	|	1000	|	The activity required to reach Legendary rank is different for each user (random)	|

source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818787.0

Merit is the most important part of achieving a new rank. You just got two merits from @OgNasty, after reaching 30 activity you will automatically Up Rank to Jr. Member.

[dataispower]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

The three questions which is involved in your questions, the three deserved it's own answer

(1) what's merit. Merit is the system which is being render for the growth of everyone who is in the forum, and if you are not opportuned to earn merit before your activity reached to a certain bracket of the activities of the forum rank positions such as jr member and member, full member, senior member and  Hero member and finally legendary member, you will remain stagnant until you earn a merit that worth the any of the position your activity approach to.

(2) how do you earn a merit: merit can be earn through your contribution, and it's being award because of appreciation to show that the person like your post. So liking your post is something that deals with good ideas of responding or contributing for someone conversation.

(3) the benefit. The benefit reply on my answer to towards what's is merit, because it's only means of getting to a new rank and if you don't earn merit you will remain stand see with one particular stage.


 

[Hispo]

I'll take this thread as an opportunity to present this little proposal to our administrators: from now on whenever a new member joins the forum, redirect them to the FAQ thread where Merit and basic rules of the forum are explained. I am sure some of them (those who actually care to know the rules and dynamics of this community) would sincerely be thankful of it, specially those who otherwise would have not found out plagiarism is not tolerated in this town till is too late

[DVlog]

Dammit, this info and more has already been stickied in Meta.  Don't people look before making threads like this one?

What I saw is people like to make a post of their own and enjoy other people commenting on it. I might think some people know and read pin posts but still, post about the same thing. Is that an addiction of people to get people's attention or I do not know what I should call it?

I am not saying it is a bad practice because some quality comments came out from a repost topic that might have never happened in the old post of that same topic.

[lovesmayfamilis]

What I saw is people like to make a post of their own and enjoy other people commenting on it. I might think some people know and read pin posts but still, post about the same thing. Is that an addiction of people to get people's attention or I do not know what I should call it?

I am not saying it is a bad practice because some quality comments came out from a repost topic that might have never happened in the old post of that same topic.

This is the most common attempt to achieve merit. They're hoping that someone will just give them the merit while in a good mood, as they did with the OP, and also that those who create new threads always get merit more often. This also worked great for a while. At the same time, newbies most often plagiarize when trying to attract attention to themselves. Then fly out of the forum, and maybe already on the 4th or 5th attempt to create an account, they become more accurate and carefully try to "survive" on the forum by creating one post per day in the local thread. In this case with the OP, I see it that way.

[Pmalek]

I'll take this thread as an opportunity to present this little proposal to our administrators: from now on whenever a new member joins the forum, redirect them to the FAQ thread where Merit and basic rules of the forum are explained.

There has been a lot of talk and different proposals for a welcome message that should be shown to new users. Theymos proposed it here. It's been 4 years now and we still don't have one.
But don't worry. As soon as we name an official custodial of all the world's bitcoins and the next Ice Age passes, there will definitely be one.

[Upgrade00]

Theymos proposed it here. It's been 4 years now and we still don't have one.

It's been four years already since that thread was created? Feels like we have "forum years" now which is much faster than regular years.
The welcome message I feel should be too priority on new implementations to the forum, and the way I see it, would not need much tweaking of the current system, just a pop up for brand-new members.

But don't worry. As soon as we name an official custodial of all the world's bitcoins and the next Ice Age passes, there will definitely be one.

I thought that's how long it would take for epochtalk to be live 

[aysg76]

If the post/thread you make contains the terms of a quality, constructive and informative post, then you have no reason for Merit Source to skip your post with Merit.

It's not like that merit source will always notice your post as there are hundreds of threads being created daily and it's hard to have an eye on all of them which is why we have many merit sources across across different boards but if you think your topic is good and didn't have merit you can always report them to the thread you have mentioned above.But there are merit distribution from members as well so you can see if you post is really good and helpful you can merits on them to rank up.

I appreciate your efforts for creating a table explaining the merit system but you can simply quote the original author in these cases like we have on the first page and it can be avoided so it's advice to you on this matter as you are not explaining something else so you can see that

The welcome message I feel should be too priority on new implementations to the forum, and the way I see it, would not need much tweaking of the current system, just a pop up for brand-new members.

A welcome message would really be helpful and directing them towards some threads explaining the forum rules and little bit of forum functionality tutorial will also be helpful but that would go into too much demands seeing that we are not seeing simple updations also but if implemented can help newbies a lot if they intend to learn it.

[aylabadia05]

Hello community, I have a little confusion so plz help me to solve this. What is Merit and how do we get and what is a benefit

In my opinion, you have discovered the solution to your aim on this issue.
Make it a non-issue. The Merit system was successfully implemented. Personally, I admire theymos's foresight in creating this forum. I hope you don't whine and blame the system because if you come here with good intentions, you will have the pleasure of meeting wonderful individuals.

[Smartvirus]

The welcome message I feel should be too priority on new implementations to the forum, and the way I see it, would not need much tweaking of the current system, just a pop up for brand-new members.

A welcome message would really be helpful and directing them towards some threads explaining the forum rules and little bit of forum functionality tutorial will also be helpful but that would go into too much demands seeing that we are not seeing simple updations also but if implemented can help newbies a lot if they intend to learn it.

Possibly, that could be some solution to some of the repeated question threads on the forum although, some users might play ignorant or not to have given it much attention but it could help for genuine newbies and for some other newbies that gives attention to what is presented before them.

Some things on the forum like hidden mail address arealready some addressed privacy concerns by default, repeated merit, activity and se forum functions that continues to get a repeated answer could be explained by a default welcome note or possibly with links to where newbies would get clarification other than having them start there own episode.

[aysg76]

Some things on the forum like hidden mail address arealready some addressed privacy concerns by default, repeated merit, activity and se forum functions that continues to get a repeated answer could be explained by a default welcome note or possibly with links to where newbies would get clarification other than having them start there own episode.

There are some suggestions but implementation relies in @theymos hands and we have seen one updation after many years which is adding @OP to the thread creator name so these others will possibly take more time to be implemented correctly.

These welcome notes could help newbies as well save forum from lot of spam threads that ask about rules and merit related stats because they tend to ignore the forum search function and their direct approach is to ask by creating a thread but will see if have it along with new forum software or not.

[dark1234]

what are the merits for and what are the benefits....
actually this is a trite question that is often raised by new accounts which incidentally are not new members here to seek sympathy and empathy.
Where in local forums it has been explained a lot and even topic threads about rules relating to merit and others are listed and stored at the top
I myself reasoned that new members would definitely stop by at the local forum and ask there or search first about merit
but I hope the OP is indeed a newcomer here

[aysg76]

what are the merits for and what are the benefits....
actually this is a trite question that is often raised by new accounts which incidentally are not new members here to seek sympathy and empathy.
Where in local forums it has been explained a lot and even topic threads about rules relating to merit and others are listed and stored at the top
I myself reasoned that new members would definitely stop by at the local forum and ask there or search first about merit
but I hope the OP is indeed a newcomer here

For sure the @OP is new to the forum and there are many other's also along with him who are in hoard to ask the same questions via creating these similar threads and spamming up different boards across the forum.But the thing is they need to be familiar with it and in rush to rank up they violate the forum rules and end up banning their account through these works.So new guidelines and pop up box for them would help them a lot.

[Shaha98]

If you post good quality and good quality then surely legends here will support you. You must make informative and quality complete posts then you can gain popularity in this forum. You can understand how to get merit by looking at this information.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4428616.msg39521119#msg39521119